Senator Ron Johnson says he will not vote to confirm Trump’s “Big and Beautiful Bill” in the Senate, stating he “couldn’t care less" If Trump upset

[leftwinger]

The biggy is -- It extends the Trump Tax Cuts. dimocrap scum don't want that to happen.

Disagree. They would have gotten rid of the TAX rates unde Obiden 2.0 if they wanted to. They could have Taxed the Rich! as they chirp on.

They did not even bring it up till now. They know it triggers bad economy to remove the rate reductions. They talk, but do nothing.

If Trump is for it they are against it. That's all.

 

[pknopp]

We can all be CERTAIN it is “less bloated”, “less corrupted” than any bill ever that was pushed thru during the dreadful 12 years of Obiden 1.0 and 2.0.

Well, no we can't.

It may not be perfect, but evidently this is all we can get right now. The deep state is embedded deeply into Congress. We could shut the GOVT again?

Shut it down.

 

[leftwinger]

Well, no we can't.



Shut it down.

Well well, lookey here an ARSEWIPE headed to be the first trolling bag O' DIks ever to go on IGNORE since 99' sports boards. You dumb OX.

 

[Mac-7]

What alternative bill?

Right

Its easy to criticize others who are trying to get something done but not so easy to do it yourself

 

[Mac-7]

Where are any significant spending cuts?

Where the fuck are the DOGE cuts?

Were is the debt reduction?

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Is that a budget plan or simply a complaint?

I’m open to a better idea but that takes more work than simply saying no

 

[leftwinger]

Don't understand why ALL "bills" have to be huge monsters containing everything? Is that the only way? or the only way they can get anything done working 80 days per year?

 

[Edgetho]

Disagree. They would have gotten rid of the TAX rates unde Obiden 2.0 if they wanted to. They could have Taxed the Rich! as they chirp on.

They did not even bring it up till now. They know it triggers bad economy to remove the rate reductions. They talk, but do nothing.

If Trump is for it they are against it. That's all.

If they can get the gullible in our party to block the Bill, then guess who gets blamed??

dimocrap scum don't care about the American People, they only care about power and their power comes from winning elections by whatever means are necessary. Lying, cheating, stealing..... Whatever it takes.

And OBTW. Know who the SALT deductions limitations hurt the most? Blue States. I don't pay State Income Tax. Not a penny. I'm in Florida so we have to make up what dimocrap scum in Blue States don't pay. Why in THE FUCK should I have to subsidize dimocrap scum in Blue States because they pay too much State and Local income tax? That's not my problem. They voted those taxes in. They can eat shit and die, AFAIC

But when dimocrap scum in dimocrap scum States get to deduct TENS OF THOUSANDS from their FEDERAL Income Tax, somebody has to make that up.

And the States with the highest State and Local taxes are all, ALL dimocrap scum States.

THEY are the ones pushing for the increase in the SALT deductions. Not us. We don't pay a dime in State and Local taxes. It's in our State Constitution.

We don't pay State Income Taxes and yet we have the healthiest economy, the best reserves, of any State. And this is AFTER two devastating Hurricanes in one year. Helene and Milton.

dimocraps are scum.

This Bill isn't The Answer™ but it's a step in the right direction. I'd like to see us not be double-taxed on Socialist Security for one thing.

Baby Steps

 

[Zincwarrior]

Right

Its easy to criticize others who are trying to get something done but not so easy to do it yourself

Go back to Reagan tax rates. Freeze spending at 2017 levels until balances.

 

[Oddball]

Is that a budget plan or simply a complaint?

I’m open to a better idea but that takes more work than simply saying no

The better idea is to not accept republicans who talk like libertarians and then govern like leftist assholes.

 

[Mac-7]

Go back to Reagan tax rates. Freeze spending at 2017 levels until balances.

39% tax rate is ok

But adjusted for inflation I’m not sure what federal spending would be at 2017 level

I support the Penny Plan which freezes next year spending at current levels with no automatic increases

Then reduce the budget across the board 1% each year till its balanced

I think its the only practical solution

 

[Zincwarrior]

39% tax rate is ok

But adjusted for inflation I’m not sure what federal spending would be at 2017 level

I support the Penny Plan which freezes next year spending at current levels with no automatic increases

Then reduce the budget across the board 1% each year till its balanced

I think its the only practical solution

I like that plan too.

 

[Mac-7]

The better idea is to not accept republicans who talk like libertarians and then govern like leftist assholes.

Does anyone have a better idea?

 

[leftwinger]

39% tax rate is ok

But adjusted for inflation I’m not sure what federal spending would be at 2017 level

I support the Penny Plan which freezes next year spending at current levels with no automatic increases

Then reduce the budget across the board 1% each year till its balanced

I think its the only practical solution

Dems talk “Tax the Rich” but 12 years of Obiden they did not “Tax the Rich”. Even under Obiden 2.0 they could have raised that top rate back up but they did not? Why not?

They for sure had two yrs to do it? So as always, they are not serious. They are lying, at least 4-8 phony Repubelicans would have voted with them on a stand alone bill. Shocker….they LIE. They Spin.

 

[Oddball]

Does anyone have a better idea?

Your party's sellout scumbags certainly don't.

 

[Mac-7]

Your party's sellout scumbags certainly don't.

Apparently neither do you

 

[munkle]

Senator Rand Paul just announced he is a NO vote also.

 

[scruffy]

Next time? How long does this one last? Till OCT?

I'm failing to see the need for more loans. DOGE just saved us 100 billion dollars, that coupled with a little tax policy could start reducing our debt.

Where are they planning on spending the loan money? I don't get it.

 

[scruffy]

Is that a budget plan or simply a complaint?

I’m open to a better idea but that takes more work than simply saying no

How the hell did AI regulation get into a budget bill?

 

[Mac-7]

How the hell did AI regulation get into a budget bill?

Give us more information

 

[Oddball]

Apparently neither do you