Senator Ron Johnson says he will not vote to confirm Trump’s “Big and Beautiful Bill” in the Senate, stating he “couldn’t care less" If Trump upset

[leftwinger]

Illusions.

Prove DOGE findings and cuts did not happen you lying trolling board maggot. You can't. You're an anti-American POS that needs a wake up call or worse.

 

[pknopp]

What's the illusion ?

All of it. Just because Musk threw around numbers, that obviously doesn't make it factual.

 

[YoursTruly]

There is no GOP. Wake up. There is Uniparty deep state. Some if uniparty tries to appear less destructive.

To say otherwise is the same lame BS "red & blue" states game.

You'll get no argument from me on the uniparty. I've been saying that for decades. But there's still a very small minority of fiscal conservatives. Those are the ones I support. GOP voters should. But they don't.
I think they'd rather be lied to.

 

[Crepitus]

DOGE $175B to date exactly that. Glad you're on board finally.

Actually 1/3rd of that.

And at that they are just cutting programs tRump doesn't like, not really finding any waste or fraud.

 

[JWBooth]

 

[pknopp]

Rand waffling.

MSN

Rand is no Ron.

 

[kyzr]

Rand waffling.

Rand is no Ron.

Rand is smart. He knows that the "good" is not the enemy of the "perfect".

Also, this is year-1, cutting $1.7T from Biden's last budget, a good start, with more cuts next year.

 

[pknopp]

Rand is smart. He knows that the "good" is not the enemy of the "perfect".

Also, this is year-1, cutting $1.7T from Biden's last budget, a good start, with more cuts next year.

$4 trillion in new debt can in no way be defined a "good" by any stretch.

 

[pknopp]

Rand further caves.

MSN

 

[kyzr]

$4 trillion in new debt can in no way be defined a "good" by any stretch.

What $4T? Over 10-years? Total bullshit. Look at the BBB vs Biden's last budget. A big step forward.
The senate version will be released today, so we'll see how they compare.

 

[pknopp]

What $4T? Over 10-years? Total bullshit. Look at the BBB vs Biden's last budget. A big step forward.
The senate version will be released today, so we'll see how they compare.

I condemned all of Bidens budget. Get a new excuse for the debt.

 

[kyzr]

I condemned all of Bidens budget. Get a new excuse for the debt.

Point being Trump is cutting spending getting closer to balance than Biden was.
Do you think democrats would get a balanced budget? We both know that is a NO.
Whining about Trump is just TDS.

 

[pknopp]

Point being Trump is cutting spending getting closer to balance than Biden was.
Do you think democrats would get a balanced budget? We both know that is a NO.

I hate repeating myself. I condemned the Democrats so your rebuttal is a complete waste.

 

[jc456]

He’ll come around…Notice he said “in its current form” Just another piggy at the trough positioning for his own pockets.

Nothing ever goes through the Senate without being tweaked.

the convenient part left out. Hilarious. All the man needs to do is participate and provide his changes and why.

 

[jc456]

I hate repeating myself. I condemned the Democrats so your rebuttal is a complete waste.

Should they have increased the debt ceiling?

 

[jc456]

"In its current form" there's still a $2 trillion deficit....There's not any "tweaking" to fix that.

well again, to anyone actually listening, if they don't do a bill to extend the current tax cut, the failure to do that will increase the debt by 4 trillion. Automatically doing nothing. Just throwing that back out there since it seems it's left the table.

 

[pknopp]

Should they have increased the debt ceiling?

No.

 

[jc456]

No.

one thing we agree on.

 

[jc456]

No.

I will say, the one confusing thing about this bill, is that keeping the tax cuts is worth 2 trillion and not keeping them is 4 trillion. How does keeping the same tax cut increase the debt?

 

[kyzr]

I will say, the one confusing thing about this bill, is that keeping the tax cuts is worth 2 trillion and not keeping them is 4 trillion. How does keeping the same tax cut increase the debt?

Because there are new tax cuts, no tax on OT, on SS, or on Tips. House guys want the SALT deduction raised to $40,000.
To pay for it Trump is okay raising the top rate to 40%, which I support.