Senate Majority Leader Thune Publicly Offers very Reasonable "Off-ramp" to Democrats

Actually, he did nothing of the sort. His percentage of the vote hovered within the same range as Bush Jr., McCain, and Romney. he didn't really attract that many "disgusted Democrats". He probably attracted some people who are non-aligned because we are a very stupid country that mistakes celebrity for merit. But to claim he moved the needle all that much is silly.



Nope. First, I doubt Trump is going to live through this term, just look at the man, he looks horrible even after they slather the makeup on him. But on the off chance he does, after the impending Great Depression II, the Republican Brand will be dirt.



You mean after Trump is gone, the GOP will take the wreckage and try to salvage... something. But Americans will look back at Trump in shame and horror, not pride.

The main reason why the GOP has been able to survive is it's ability to distance itself from Toxic figures, such as Nixon or McCarthy. Will it be able to do so with Trump?



yeah, he gets results.

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First, the main reason why the border "Dried up" was that it was already declining before he got there. We went from a height of 250K Crossings in 2023 to 100K in January 2025 when Biden left. So it really didn't have anything to do with Trump.



Um, nope. You've been lied to.


Our telephone survey of likely U.S. providers of wait-listed services such as advanced imaging and eye procedures strongly suggested that very few Canadians sought care for these services south of the border. Relative to the large volume of these procedures provided to Canadians within adjacent provinces, the numbers are almost undetectable. Hospital administrative data from states bordering Canadian population centers reinforce this picture. State inpatient discharge data show that most Canadian admissions to these hospitals were unrelated to waiting time or to leading-edge-technology scenarios commonly associated with cross- border care-seeking arguments. The vast majority of services provided to Canadians were emergency or urgent care, presumably coincidental with travel to the United States for other purposes. They were clearly unrelated either to advanced technologies or to waiting times north of the border. This is consistent with the findings from our previous study in Ontario of provincial plan records of reimbursement for out-of-country use of care. Additional findings from the current study showed that a small amount of cross-border use was related to proximal services, primarily in rural or remote areas where provincial payers have made arrangements to reimburse nearby U.S. providers. Finally, information from a sample of “America’s Best Hospitals” revealed very few Canadians being seen for the magnet referral services they provide.
Quoting a 23-year-old study to ‘prove’ Canadians never cross the border for care is laughable— and healthcare hasn’t exactly been frozen since this study was released (I believe in the late 90s); Regardless, it's a fact that Canadians go abroad for care, including the United States, because their own system makes them wait -- and that's a signal.
 
Actually, he did nothing of the sort. His percentage of the vote hovered within the same range as Bush Jr., McCain, and Romney. he didn't really attract that many "disgusted Democrats". He probably attracted some people who are non-aligned because we are a very stupid country that mistakes celebrity for merit. But to claim he moved the needle all that much is silly.
You must not remember the 2016 primary, in which about a dozen establishment Republicans tried desperately to unseat Trump, who was the frontrunner from the moment he announced. Your media mockingly called it the "Clown Car" for once with justice.

Trump lost many of those establishment GOP voters, so those numbers were made up by crossover Democrats, who may never go back. But don't believe me. Look at the facts:

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Okay, so "Nope" means you disagree that we will have a Trump-like president for seven year? Or do you just automatically start sentences with "nope" and then go on to prove what the person just said? I know people like that. "Are you going to go out of town on Friday?" "No, my husband and I are taking a sick day and going to New Orleans." "Then why'd you say . . . never mind."

Very annoying, and I'm glad I have this forum to call someone on it.
First, I doubt Trump is going to live through this term, just look at the man, he looks horrible even after they slather the makeup on him.
Likely he will not live though this term, which I did not say he would. His VP is MAGA, if you didn't know that. He didn't let the Party pick a RINO for him this time.

That makes it even more likely that it will be a Trump-like presidency for this term and the next.
But on the off chance he does, after the impending Great Depression II, the Republican Brand will be dirt.
Proof of the impending great depression?
You mean after Trump is gone, the GOP will take the wreckage and try to salvage... something. But Americans will look back at Trump in shame and horror, not pride.


The main reason why the GOP has been able to survive is it's ability to distance itself from Toxic figures, such as Nixon or McCarthy. Will it be able to do so with Trump?



yeah, he gets results.

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First, the main reason why the border "Dried up" was that it was already declining before he got there. We went from a height of 250K Crossings in 2023 to 100K in January 2025 when Biden left. So it really didn't have anything to do with Trump.
Distance itself? The RINOs are trying desperately to prove they are Trumpers. Senator Cornyn, a recovering Never Trumper is running ads showing himself and President Trump working together to blah, blah, blah.
Stopped reading right there.
 
Quoting a 23-year-old study to ‘prove’ Canadians never cross the border for care is laughable— and healthcare hasn’t exactly been frozen since this study was released (I believe in the late 90s); Regardless, it's a fact that Canadians go abroad for care, including the United States, because their own system makes them wait -- and that's a signal.

Except no one has shown us a study that anything has "changed" in the last 23 years. Most of your "evidence" is anecdotal, such as a rich person flying down here because he could pay for a private room.

So instead of relying on anecdotes or studies, let's look at health care measures.


Oooh, Canada does better in life expectancy, obesity, infant mortality, and just about every other metric.

Oh, and their expenditure per capita is half of ours.
 
You must not remember the 2016 primary, in which about a dozen establishment Republicans tried desperately to unseat Trump, who was the frontrunner from the moment he announced. Your media mockingly called it the "Clown Car" for once with justice.

I'm not sure why you think that's something to be proud of. You passed up half a dozen guys who would have made decent presidents to pick the one guy who was completely unfit and ended up ******* it all up.

Stopped reading right there.
Too many big words?

Likely he will not live though this term, which I did not say he would. His VP is MAGA, if you didn't know that. He didn't let the Party pick a RINO for him this time.

you mean the VP who once compared him to Hitler? Here's an ugly truth. Republicans probably hate Trump more than Democrats do. They are just waiting for their moment.
 
Except no one has shown us a study that anything has "changed" in the last 23 years. Most of your "evidence" is anecdotal, such as a rich person flying down here because he could pay for a private room.

So instead of relying on anecdotes or studies, let's look at health care measures.


Oooh, Canada does better in life expectancy, obesity, infant mortality, and just about every other metric.

Oh, and their expenditure per capita is half of ours.
Sure, there has: median wait times, which have soared to over 30 weeks (Frasier's Waiting Your Turn: Wait Times for Health Care in Canada, 2024), as well as public sentiment, where 42% of Canadians (Ipsos Poll - 2024) said they would be willing to travel to the United States for treatment, and 38% for emergency services. Notice this data is from last year and not 25+ years ago.
 
Except no one has shown us a study that anything has "changed" in the last 23 years. Most of your "evidence" is anecdotal, such as a rich person flying down here because he could pay for a private room.

So instead of relying on anecdotes or studies, let's look at health care measures.


Oooh, Canada does better in life expectancy, obesity, infant mortality, and just about every other metric.

Oh, and their expenditure per capita is half of ours.
Well, they only spent $6.4b on healthcare R&D and the US spent about $250B too which is why our numbers skew to the high side. Canada is essentially a freeloader who waits for Americans to invent shit
 
Well, they only spent $6.4b on healthcare R&D and the US spent about $250B too which is why our numbers skew to the high side. Canada is essentially a freeloader who waits for Americans to invent shit

Most of our so-called R&D goes to weightloss and male enhancement drugs, so that gets you nothing.

Point is- once again- Canada spends half per capita of what we do, and they beat us in every metric without inventing anything.
 
Most of our so-called R&D goes to weightloss and male enhancement drugs, so that gets you nothing.

Point is- once again- Canada spends half per capita of what we do, and they beat us in every metric without inventing anything.
Point is their system sucks and isn't even universal. What you get depends on which province you live in and many Canadians still buy private insurance.
 
Most of our so-called R&D goes to weightloss and male enhancement drugs, so that gets you nothing.

Point is- once again- Canada spends half per capita of what we do, and they beat us in every metric without inventing anything.
People die on waiting lists in Canada. Americans wouldn't put up with that.
 
People die on waiting lists in Canada. Americans wouldn't put up with that.

People in this country die because insurance won't cover things.

Americans put up with that just fine.

Again, the stats are telling. Canadians live longer, they are less likely to be obese, less of their babies die in infancy.

there are very few stats where we are doing "better" than Canadians.
 
People in this country die because insurance won't cover things.
Where are they, then?

Where are all the dead illegals since Democrats claim people die if they don't have Obamacare or Medicaid, and since you also claim that illegals cannot get Obamacare or Medicaid.

Yet, no stories about these large numbers of deaths of uninsured illegals. Have them been hidden in mass graves?
Americans put up with that just fine.

Again, the stats are telling. Canadians live longer, they are less likely to be obese, less of their babies die in infancy.

there are very few stats where we are doing "better" than Canadians.
Take illegals out of our medical stats and they will be far better than those of Canadians.
 
Where are they, then?

Where are all the dead illegals since Democrats claim people die if they don't have Obamacare or Medicaid, and since you also claim that illegals cannot get Obamacare or Medicaid.

Yet, no stories about these large numbers of deaths of uninsured illegals. Have them been hidden in mass graves?

Take illegals out of our medical stats and they will be far better than those of Canadians.

Undocumented immigrants are not making your life unhappy.

Rich people are.

The sooner you realize this, the better off you will be.

But I guess it's always easier to kick down than punch up if you are a coward.
 
People die on waiting lists in Canada. Americans wouldn't put up with that.

People die in the US because they

(A) Don't have insurance and can't affored early more effective treatment until near end stage when often it's to late.

(B) The for profit insurance company death panels deny, deny, deny claims and by the time you appeal, appeal, appeal - well you are dead.

WW
 
Undocumented immigrants are not making your life unhappy.

Rich people are.

The sooner you realize this, the better off you will be.

But I guess it's always easier to kick down than punch up if you are a coward.
Answer the question, chickenshit.
 
People die in the US because they

(A) Don't have insurance and can't affored early more effective treatment until near end stage when often it's to late.
Where are all the dead illegals then?
(B) The for profit insurance company death panels deny, deny, deny claims and by the time you appeal, appeal, appeal - well you are dead.

WW
Thank Obamacare for that. Obamacare rewwarded thos companies with billions in subsidies.
 
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People die in the US because they

(A) Don't have insurance and can't affored early more effective treatment until near end stage when often it's to late.

(B) The for profit insurance company death panels deny, deny, deny claims and by the time you appeal, appeal, appeal - well you are dead.

WW
Total BS.
 
Or Republicans could just stop trying to take health care benefits away from working people.
How can they stop something they never started?

When did you stop beating your wife?
 

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