Senate Majority Leader Thune Publicly Offers very Reasonable "Off-ramp" to Democrats

[JusticeHammer]

Explain shutting the government down to deny people medical care.

You mean illegals healthcare. It's a lie to claim demscum aren't trying to do that.

 

[JusticeHammer]

Yes, but they shut it down to protect health care for Americans, which is why people are going along with it.

Nope, learn to follow along.

 

[Seymour Flops]

It was very affordable for her before she married me.

Guess they should have called it the Sometimes Affordable Care Act.

 

[Zincwarrior]

You mean illegals healthcare. It's a lie to claim demscum aren't trying to do that.

Bullshit you MAGATARD

 

[JusticeHammer]

Bullshit you MAGATARD

Nope, truth.

 

[JoeB131]

Guess they should have callec itvthe Sometimes Affordable Care Act.

NO, they should have called it, "the better than we have now, because Big Insurance owns our politicians" Act.

The Ironic things about ACA is that Republicans were all for that model when Romney did it in Massachusetts.

It kept big insurance happy by giving them subsidies.

The two things that would have made ACA better would have been a public option and a Medicare Buy in for people over 55. Both of which were opposed by Joe Leiberman (I-Israel). Obama should have said, **** it, and employed the nuclear option to ignore this twit.

 

[Seymour Flops]

The Ironic things about ACA is that Republicans were all for that model when Romney did it in Massachusetts.

No, RINO Romny was all for it.

It kept big insurance happy by giving them subsidies.

YEAH it did! AND gave them a whole new base of forced customers.

No wonder the Insurance companies donate so much money to lawmakers!

 

[JoeB131]

No, RINO Romny was all for it.

Right. Romney is a RINO. McCain is a RINO. Bush is a RINO. Trump, who wasn't even in the GOP 15 years ago, is the one true Republican.

And you totally aren't in a cult.

 

[Crepitus]

They have been right all along also. Demoncrats need to stop crying for illegals.

This has nothing to do with illegals, son. It's about healthcare for Americans.

 

[JusticeHammer]

This has nothing to do with illegals, son. It's about healthcare for Americans.

Wrong

 

[Crepitus]

Wrong

Nope.

 

[JusticeHammer]

Nope.

Yep

 

[Seymour Flops]

Right. Romney is a RINO. McCain is a RINO. Bush is a RINO. Trump, who wasn't even in the GOP 15 years ago, is the one true Republican.

And you totally aren't in a cult.

Yeah, he actually is the standard by which Republicans are judged. Because he pulled so many disgusted Democratic voters into the Republican Party, that it became the Party of Trump. The next Republican candidate, who will be the next president, will be the one who can convince voters he or she is most like Trump.

So, we will have a Trump or Trump-like president for at least the next seven years, probably the next eleven. How old are you? You may not live to see a non-Trumpian president.

After the Trump-like has eight years, the Republicans will probably devolve back to their previous Dem Lite policies or someting maybe worse.

Trump gets results, like no Republican before him. Look how fast the border dried up after he took office. Ever see a Bush do that?

You don't like it, find a candidate that your party or "not your party" who can bring in the votes.

 

[jotathought]

Well, first, Canada had a much better health care system than we have. They don't want to come here for health care.

Bullshit .. Thousands of Canadians travel to the U.S. each year for faster treatment, specialized surgeries, or procedures not available in their province. In fact, studies show Canadians often cross the border for MRIs, cancer treatment, or elective procedures when Canadian waitlists are too long. The U.S. system excels in innovation, speed (if you can afford it), and specialized care.

 

[Dekster]

The democrats can't negotiate later because 1) open enrollment starts in 3 weeks and 2) Mike Johnson is only promising he would let it be voted on, not that it will get any support from him or it would pass. Johnson doesn't control his caucus---the freedom caucus does, and he won't be able to get the votes for anything since he barely got them for the BBB and the CR

 

[JoeB131]

Yeah, he actually is the standard by which Republicans are judged. Because he pulled so many disgusted Democratic voters into the Republican Party, that it became the Party of Trump. The next Republican candidate, who will be the next president, will be the one who can convince voters he or she is most like Trump.

Actually, he did nothing of the sort. His percentage of the vote hovered within the same range as Bush Jr., McCain, and Romney. he didn't really attract that many "disgusted Democrats". He probably attracted some people who are non-aligned because we are a very stupid country that mistakes celebrity for merit. But to claim he moved the needle all that much is silly.

So, we will have a Trump or Trump-like president for at least the next seven years, probably the next eleven. How old are you? You may not live to see a non-Trumpian president.

Nope. First, I doubt Trump is going to live through this term, just look at the man, he looks horrible even after they slather the makeup on him. But on the off chance he does, after the impending Great Depression II, the Republican Brand will be dirt.

After the Trump-like has eight years, the Republicans will probably devolve back to their previous Dem Lite policies or someting maybe worse.

You mean after Trump is gone, the GOP will take the wreckage and try to salvage... something. But Americans will look back at Trump in shame and horror, not pride.

The main reason why the GOP has been able to survive is it's ability to distance itself from Toxic figures, such as Nixon or McCarthy. Will it be able to do so with Trump?

Trump gets results, like no Republican before him. Look how fast the border dried up after he took office. Ever see a Bush do that?

You don't like it, find a candidate that your party or "not your party" who can bring in the votes.

yeah, he gets results.

First, the main reason why the border "Dried up" was that it was already declining before he got there. We went from a height of 250K Crossings in 2023 to 100K in January 2025 when Biden left. So it really didn't have anything to do with Trump.

Bullshit .. Thousands of Canadians travel to the U.S. each year for faster treatment, specialized surgeries, or procedures not available in their province. In fact, studies show Canadians often cross the border for MRIs, cancer treatment, or elective procedures when Canadian waitlists are too long. The U.S. system excels in innovation, speed (if you can afford it), and specialized care.

Um, nope. You've been lied to.

Phantoms In The Snow: Canadians' Use Of Health Care Services In The United States

pnhp.org

Our telephone survey of likely U.S. providers of wait-listed services such as advanced imaging and eye procedures strongly suggested that very few Canadians sought care for these services south of the border. Relative to the large volume of these procedures provided to Canadians within adjacent provinces, the numbers are almost undetectable. Hospital administrative data from states bordering Canadian population centers reinforce this picture. State inpatient discharge data show that most Canadian admissions to these hospitals were unrelated to waiting time or to leading-edge-technology scenarios commonly associated with cross- border care-seeking arguments. The vast majority of services provided to Canadians were emergency or urgent care, presumably coincidental with travel to the United States for other purposes. They were clearly unrelated either to advanced technologies or to waiting times north of the border. This is consistent with the findings from our previous study in Ontario of provincial plan records of reimbursement for out-of-country use of care. Additional findings from the current study showed that a small amount of cross-border use was related to proximal services, primarily in rural or remote areas where provincial payers have made arrangements to reimburse nearby U.S. providers. Finally, information from a sample of “America’s Best Hospitals” revealed very few Canadians being seen for the magnet referral services they provide.

 

[Hafar1014]

Or Republicans could just stop trying to take health care benefits away from working people.

or illegals who dont deserve them.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Demscum shut the government down. Specifically the two clowns Schumer and Jeffries.

Jeffries had nothing to do with it. This is all Chuckie's baby!

 

[JoeB131]

or illegals who dont deserve them.

They don't qualify for these programs unless they've been granted legal status, so this is a dishonest argument.

 

[maj]