Senate cannot try a private citizen !!!

[bripat9643]

No Chief Justice, no legitimate trial.


Case closed.


The Constitution grants the Senate the sole power to try all impeachments, and establishes four requirements for an impeachment trial in the Senate: (1) the support of two-thirds of Senators present is necessary to convict; (2) Senators must take an oath or an affirmation; (3) the punishments the Senate can issue cannot extend further than removal from office and disqualification from holding future office; and (4) in the case of a presidential impeachment trial, the Chief Justice, and not the Vice President or a Senator, is the presiding officer.

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R46185

You're half right. Impeachments are for President/Vice President, and officers of the US only.

Impeachment trials are for anybody who was impeached.

Wrong. Read the Constitution, you fucking moron. It clearly says that an impeachment trial is for THE PRESIDENT.

Article I, Section 2, Clause 5 grants the sole power of impeachment to the House of Representatives;

Article I, Section 3, Clause 6 assigns the Senate sole responsibility to try impeachments;

What part of "When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside" don't you understand? Is Trump President of the United States? Who does the Constitution say the Senate is supposed to try?

Do you actually believe you're fooling anyone?

 

[bripat9643]

Congress has very limited, specific enumerated powers. Trying a private citizen is not included.

Trying ordinary citizens is in congresses "inherent" powers.

The inherent powers of the national government are powers it exercises simply because it is a government. Section 1-5. II.

Wrong, shit for brains. Congress has no power to try any private citizen for anything. There are no powers it exercises simply because it's a government. That's leftwing fiction.

 

[bripat9643]

(4) in the case of a presidential impeachment trial, the Chief Justice, and not the Vice President or a Senator, is the presiding officer.

Misleading. The constitution doesnt cite a presidential impeachment trial. It says the trial of THE PRESIDENT. If you were right, Roberts would be forced to preside. Clearly he doesn’t agree with you.

You NAZI assholes have to know you're lying.

 

[bripat9643]

Correct. Trump is no longer President, so the Constitution has no provision to put him on trial.

Trump hasn’t filed suit to claim unconstitutionality. He’s conceding the point.

The Senate hasn't tried him yet, moron. Plenty of others will sue the Senate Democrats before Trump does.

 

[postman]

What part of "When the President of the United States is tried," the Chief Justice shall preside" don't you understand? Is Trump President of the United States?

Joseph R. Biden is the president of the united states.

If you impeach Biden you have to have the chief justice oversee his trial. Try it and see.

 

[postman]

Wrong, shit for brains. Congress has no power to try any private citizen for anything. There are no powers it exercises simply because it's a government. That's leftwing fiction.

Not only can they, they already have, and they convicted him and sent him to jail.

William P. MacCracken, Jr. and Contempt of Congress

 

[postman]

Trump hasn’t filed suit to claim unconstitutionality. He’s conceding the point.

The Senate hasn't tried him yet, moron. Plenty of others will sue the Senate Democrats before Trump does.

Only Trump has legal standing.

 

[bripat9643]

What part of "When the President of the United States is tried," the Chief Justice shall preside" don't you understand? Is Trump President of the United States?

Joseph R. Biden is the president of the united states.

If you impeach Biden you have to have the chief justice oversee his trial. Try it and see.

We're discussing Trump, you brain damaged asshole.

 

[bripat9643]

Trump hasn’t filed suit to claim unconstitutionality. He’s conceding the point.

The Senate hasn't tried him yet, moron. Plenty of others will sue the Senate Democrats before Trump does.

Only Trump has legal standing.

Right. And we should believe you because?

 

[bripat9643]

Wrong, shit for brains. Congress has no power to try any private citizen for anything. There are no powers it exercises simply because it's a government. That's leftwing fiction.

Not only can they, they already have, and they convicted him and sent him to jail.

The Senate has not tried Trump, you dumb fucking NAZI asshole.

 

[Circe]

The fact that Roberts refuses to preside over this Fascist politically partisan 'lynching' is a subtle declaration of how it is UN-CONSTITUTIONAL.....not that doing something Un-Constitutional has ever been a concern for Democrats.

This is exactly what worries me most. They simply don't refer to the Constitution at all ---- just do whatever terrible thing they suppose they have power enough to do.

I think we're in a lot of trouble with this going on.

And Justice Roberts refusing to countenance this charade is not especially subtle, I'd say!

 

[Nostra]

(4) in the case of a presidential impeachment trial, the Chief Justice, and not the Vice President or a Senator, is the presiding officer.

Misleading. The constitution doesnt cite a presidential impeachment trial. It says the trial of THE PRESIDENT. If you were right, Roberts would be forced to preside. Clearly he doesn’t agree with you.

You can’t force him to preside over a farce.

 

[366h34d]

So what? Neither did Johnson's nor Clinton's. It's still a stain on a presidency that can't be washed away.

There have been four presidential impeachments. And half of them were Trump.

YOu are right. He has 2. However, it just shows you how wrong the process was?

 

[easyt65]

The USSC Justice is REQUIRED by the Constitution to preside over a Constitutional Impeachment.....

Roberts isn't having any of this one.

'Nuff said.

 

[easyt65]

YOu are right. He has 2. However, it just shows you how wrong the process was?

If you think a Constitutional process is wrong / outdated you should know the Constitutional process for changing the Constitution....Nancy Pelosi doing what she wants ain't it.

 

[Circe]

The USSC Justice is REQUIRED by the Constitution to preside over a Constitutional Impeachment.....

Roberts isn't having any of this one.

'Nuff said.

Therefore, Roberts thinks it's unconstitutional.

And, after all, he should know.

 

[MadDog]

Therefore, Roberts thinks it's unconstitutional.

Must’ve missed it. When did he say that?

apparently Trump doesn’t agree with you either since he hasn’t challenged the constitutionaliy of the trial.

 

[Circe]

Therefore, Roberts thinks it's unconstitutional.

Must’ve missed it. When did he say that?

When he refused to preside over something the Dems are calling an "impeachment trial" but which has a form not recognized in the Constitution. This is something called "logic," maddog ---- don't worry about it.

 

[366h34d]

Wrong, shit for brains. Congress has no power to try any private citizen for anything. There are no powers it exercises simply because it's a government. That's leftwing fiction.

Not only can they, they already have, and they convicted him and sent him to jail.
William P. MacCracken, Jr. and Contempt of Congress

hmm, very good reflection. I am impressed.
That is not impeachment. In fact, Congress can do it now, puts orange in jail for 12 months, and we can all move on.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

When did any member of the Democrat Reich ever do the right thing even if they lost the next election?

Why is Eric Swallwell still on the House intelligence committee?