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The Senate has already impeached and tried an office holder, the secretary of war, after he no longer held the seat.

He was not the president, the constitution specifically enumerates the president and assigns him special powers and privileges and this conviction will be fought fiercely, especially when the charge is specious and gratuitous. There was no insurrection, not even the people actually ARRESTED there are being charged as such and Trump had no hand, conscious or otherwise in directing them.

Get stuffed.
Trump had everything to do with it.... He seeded the big lie, and egged it on.

As far as your c l aim the President is different than the vp and office holders......your claim, has no legs.

The constitution's impeachment clause is written with all three positions are held equally, in the same sentence regarding impeachment.



The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
Very nice. Trump is no longer in office. They are scared he will run again and it will be much harder to defraud him a second time. That is the truth, try admitting it.
They are most certainly trying to strip him from being able to run for any office, ever again. It's the sole purpose for the impeachment, even after he no longer held the office. No one is hiding that purpose.
Then that would fail since this process is unconstitutional
What process is unconstitutional? Impeachment?

There is no Mulligan for a President or any office holder, committing an abusive or criminal act, 2 weeks from leaving office.... impeachment does not just disappear because the abuse took place two weeks from leaving.
I never said it did...But, EVERY American is afforded due process....where was that?

And, now even though it is expressed that the Chief Justice “SHALL” preside. Roberts wants nothing to do with this Kangaroo lynch mob of yours, so, they are installing Patrick Lehey....Are you freakin serious?

Pelosi, and Democrats, as well as anyone supporting this crap are anti American assholes.
So sue Justice Roberts. Take it to the Supreme Court. I'm sure they'll take the case. LOL

Elections have consequences, right?
 

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The Senate has already impeached and tried an office holder, the secretary of war, after he no longer held the seat.

He was not the president, the constitution specifically enumerates the president and assigns him special powers and privileges and this conviction will be fought fiercely, especially when the charge is specious and gratuitous. There was no insurrection, not even the people actually ARRESTED there are being charged as such and Trump had no hand, conscious or otherwise in directing them.

Get stuffed.
Trump had everything to do with it.... He seeded the big lie, and egged it on.

As far as your c l aim the President is different than the vp and office holders......your claim, has no legs.

The constitution's impeachment clause is written with all three positions are held equally, in the same sentence regarding impeachment.



The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
Very nice. Trump is no longer in office. They are scared he will run again and it will be much harder to defraud him a second time. That is the truth, try admitting it.
They are most certainly trying to strip him from being able to run for any office, ever again. It's the sole purpose for the impeachment, even after he no longer held the office. No one is hiding that purpose.
Then that would fail since this process is unconstitutional
What process is unconstitutional? Impeachment?

There is no Mulligan for a President or any office holder, committing an abusive or criminal act, 2 weeks from leaving office.... impeachment does not just disappear because the abuse took place two weeks from leaving.
You cannot remove what is not there. Democrats have conducted a four year sideshow. If anybody embarrasses this country it is those assholes.
There are two separate votes required to complete a Senate impeachment trial.

One VOTE to convict and remove from office or not. Takes 2/3s voting to convict.

And the second, separate vote required, which only requires a majority vote, not the 2/3s vote, is whether or not to strip those impeached, from ever holding office again.

You can't vote to strip him from holding office again, without the impeachment trial, and that vote cast...

Thus, his holding office or not, matters naught....
Why are they so scared of one man? This much fuss you can bet he was working for the people. That is not done in DC. He had to be doing something right and that is not done in DC either.

You have admitted fraud by hiding evidence and censorship of the topic. You know you cannot beat him in a fair election. That is what you are admitting now. How is that serving the people like the government should?
 

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The Senate has already impeached and tried an office holder, the secretary of war, after he no longer held the seat.

He was not the president, the constitution specifically enumerates the president and assigns him special powers and privileges and this conviction will be fought fiercely, especially when the charge is specious and gratuitous. There was no insurrection, not even the people actually ARRESTED there are being charged as such and Trump had no hand, conscious or otherwise in directing them.

Get stuffed.
Trump had everything to do with it.... He seeded the big lie, and egged it on.

As far as your c l aim the President is different than the vp and office holders......your claim, has no legs.

The constitution's impeachment clause is written with all three positions are held equally, in the same sentence regarding impeachment.



The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
Very nice. Trump is no longer in office. They are scared he will run again and it will be much harder to defraud him a second time. That is the truth, try admitting it.
They are most certainly trying to strip him from being able to run for any office, ever again. It's the sole purpose for the impeachment, even after he no longer held the office. No one is hiding that purpose.
Then that would fail since this process is unconstitutional
What process is unconstitutional? Impeachment?

There is no Mulligan for a President or any office holder, committing an abusive or criminal act, 2 weeks from leaving office.... impeachment does not just disappear because the abuse took place two weeks from leaving.
I never said it did...But, EVERY American is afforded due process....where was that?

And, now even though it is expressed that the Chief Justice “SHALL” preside. Roberts wants nothing to do with this Kangaroo lynch mob of yours, so, they are installing Patrick Lehey....Are you freakin serious?

Pelosi, and Democrats, as well as anyone supporting this crap are anti American assholes.
true!
Every American is granted due process in a criminal trial, because their freedom can be taken from them, by incarceration.

Impeachment can not strip freedom. It's a political process.

None the less, President Trump, during his trial will get his due process....He can testify on his own behalf, his law team can call witnesses, and question any witness the House Managers present, they can present evidence on TRUMPs behalf to counter the accusations etc etc etc....
It is not going to work. It will go to the SCOTUS and you will lose.
You could be right. This might finally be the case where packing the court with conservatives pays off. On the other hand, SCOTUS tends to respect precedent, and there is precedent for this. And I think the idea of establishing precedent where a President can get away with transgressions as long as he does them within two weeks of leaving is not one SCOTUS will find attractive.
 

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Nope! They are under investigation for being TRUMP sympathizers...
Trump "sympathizers"? Nothing authoritarian or fascist about that....right?
When did we turn into the CCP? Or do you imagine it's some sort of crime to
politically support Trump?
The word sympathizer was me, being kind in describing the Capitol police that could have nefariously let the protesters in....

I could have said some of trump insurrectionists in the capitol police.... are being investigated.... but thought calling them insurrectionists was not fair, because the investigation in to them, is not complete.... thus trump sympathizers...not co conspirator insurrectionists....at least not yet.
200 people broke into the Capitol, incited and whipped into a mob by Antifa & BLM who were aided by Capitol Police - less than 200 were Trump supporters. It was a staged event, a 'trap', so Democrats could launch another bogus Impeachment Pelosi admitted herself is politically partisan and intended to eliminate Trump as a threat in 2024 and beyond.

It was also intended to justify calling ALL Conservatives and Trump Supporters 'terrorists' and call for them to be rounded up and reprogrammed / put in re-education camps.

And socialists ignore Antifa/BLM violence that has caused BILLIONS of dollars in damage & How the current VP incited this real insurrection she declared 'must continue'...which it has.
Antifa claims are Russian propaganda being pushed in right wing media, is what the administration's cyber security and fbi said on the news....
Except for the little fact that your Antifa pals are on video ADMITTING to their actions. Of course you ignore that like good little sheep.
Yep, so far just 1 guy named Sullivan was at the riot, inside the capitol, that has been arrested.... that claimed he was an activist.

The hundred others were Trumpists that were arrested.

Facts and evidence, matters....
Of which you have none. Hearsay isn’t admissible. Facts never matter to hacks like you.
 

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The Senate has already impeached and tried an office holder, the secretary of war, after he no longer held the seat.

He was not the president, the constitution specifically enumerates the president and assigns him special powers and privileges and this conviction will be fought fiercely, especially when the charge is specious and gratuitous. There was no insurrection, not even the people actually ARRESTED there are being charged as such and Trump had no hand, conscious or otherwise in directing them.

Get stuffed.
Trump had everything to do with it.... He seeded the big lie, and egged it on.

As far as your c l aim the President is different than the vp and office holders......your claim, has no legs.

The constitution's impeachment clause is written with all three positions are held equally, in the same sentence regarding impeachment.



The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
Very nice. Trump is no longer in office. They are scared he will run again and it will be much harder to defraud him a second time. That is the truth, try admitting it.
They are most certainly trying to strip him from being able to run for any office, ever again. It's the sole purpose for the impeachment, even after he no longer held the office. No one is hiding that purpose.
Then that would fail since this process is unconstitutional
What process is unconstitutional? Impeachment?

There is no Mulligan for a President or any office holder, committing an abusive or criminal act, 2 weeks from leaving office.... impeachment does not just disappear because the abuse took place two weeks from leaving.
I never said it did...But, EVERY American is afforded due process....where was that?

And, now even though it is expressed that the Chief Justice “SHALL” preside. Roberts wants nothing to do with this Kangaroo lynch mob of yours, so, they are installing Patrick Lehey....Are you freakin serious?

Pelosi, and Democrats, as well as anyone supporting this crap are anti American assholes.
So sue Justice Roberts. Take it to the Supreme Court. I'm sure they'll take the case. LOL

Elections have consequences, right?
Of coirse you miss the point. The Chief Justice of SCOTUS SHALL preside. Not may, or “we can put the slobbering Leahy in there”. SHALL. Roberts has already shot down your bullshit and said it isn’t legal. Go ahead and embarrass yourselves more. See moron, they would take the case. And you would lose.
 

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The Senate has already impeached and tried an office holder, the secretary of war, after he no longer held the seat.

He was not the president, the constitution specifically enumerates the president and assigns him special powers and privileges and this conviction will be fought fiercely, especially when the charge is specious and gratuitous. There was no insurrection, not even the people actually ARRESTED there are being charged as such and Trump had no hand, conscious or otherwise in directing them.

Get stuffed.
Trump had everything to do with it.... He seeded the big lie, and egged it on.

As far as your c l aim the President is different than the vp and office holders......your claim, has no legs.

The constitution's impeachment clause is written with all three positions are held equally, in the same sentence regarding impeachment.



The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
Very nice. Trump is no longer in office. They are scared he will run again and it will be much harder to defraud him a second time. That is the truth, try admitting it.
They are most certainly trying to strip him from being able to run for any office, ever again. It's the sole purpose for the impeachment, even after he no longer held the office. No one is hiding that purpose.
Then that would fail since this process is unconstitutional
What process is unconstitutional? Impeachment?

There is no Mulligan for a President or any office holder, committing an abusive or criminal act, 2 weeks from leaving office.... impeachment does not just disappear because the abuse took place two weeks from leaving.
You cannot remove what is not there. Democrats have conducted a four year sideshow. If anybody embarrasses this country it is those assholes.
There are two separate votes required to complete a Senate impeachment trial.

One VOTE to convict and remove from office or not. Takes 2/3s voting to convict.

And the second, separate vote required, which only requires a majority vote, not the 2/3s vote, is whether or not to strip those impeached, from ever holding office again.

You can't vote to strip him from holding office again, without the impeachment trial, and that vote cast...

Thus, his holding office or not, matters naught....
Why are they so scared of one man? This much fuss you can bet he was working for the people. That is not done in DC. He had to be doing something right and that is not done in DC either.

You have admitted fraud by hiding evidence and censorship of the topic. You know you cannot beat him in a fair election. That is what you are admitting now. How is that serving the people like the government should?
We did beat him, by a landslide...7 million plus votes and 306 to 232 electoral votes.

Trump concocted the Big Lie, that the election was stolen from him months before the election was held, when his internal polling told him he was going to lose big-time to Biden.
 

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Nope! They are under investigation for being TRUMP sympathizers...
Trump "sympathizers"? Nothing authoritarian or fascist about that....right?
When did we turn into the CCP? Or do you imagine it's some sort of crime to
politically support Trump?
The word sympathizer was me, being kind in describing the Capitol police that could have nefariously let the protesters in....

I could have said some of trump insurrectionists in the capitol police.... are being investigated.... but thought calling them insurrectionists was not fair, because the investigation in to them, is not complete.... thus trump sympathizers...not co conspirator insurrectionists....at least not yet.
200 people broke into the Capitol, incited and whipped into a mob by Antifa & BLM who were aided by Capitol Police - less than 200 were Trump supporters. It was a staged event, a 'trap', so Democrats could launch another bogus Impeachment Pelosi admitted herself is politically partisan and intended to eliminate Trump as a threat in 2024 and beyond.

It was also intended to justify calling ALL Conservatives and Trump Supporters 'terrorists' and call for them to be rounded up and reprogrammed / put in re-education camps.

And socialists ignore Antifa/BLM violence that has caused BILLIONS of dollars in damage & How the current VP incited this real insurrection she declared 'must continue'...which it has.
Antifa claims are Russian propaganda being pushed in right wing media, is what the administration's cyber security and fbi said on the news....
Except for the little fact that your Antifa pals are on video ADMITTING to their actions. Of course you ignore that like good little sheep.
Yep, so far just 1 guy named Sullivan was at the riot, inside the capitol, that has been arrested.... that claimed he was an activist.

The hundred others were Trumpists that were arrested.

Facts and evidence, matters....
Of which you have none. Hearsay isn’t admissible. Facts never matter to hacks like you.
Oh dear Lord Almighty!

You need to get out of your right wing media bubble! Every night on the news it's a few more Trumpsters being caught and charged!
 
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The Senate has already impeached and tried an office holder, the secretary of war, after he no longer held the seat.

He was not the president, the constitution specifically enumerates the president and assigns him special powers and privileges and this conviction will be fought fiercely, especially when the charge is specious and gratuitous. There was no insurrection, not even the people actually ARRESTED there are being charged as such and Trump had no hand, conscious or otherwise in directing them.

Get stuffed.
Trump had everything to do with it.... He seeded the big lie, and egged it on.

As far as your c l aim the President is different than the vp and office holders......your claim, has no legs.

The constitution's impeachment clause is written with all three positions are held equally, in the same sentence regarding impeachment.



The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
Very nice. Trump is no longer in office. They are scared he will run again and it will be much harder to defraud him a second time. That is the truth, try admitting it.
They are most certainly trying to strip him from being able to run for any office, ever again. It's the sole purpose for the impeachment, even after he no longer held the office. No one is hiding that purpose.
Then that would fail since this process is unconstitutional
What process is unconstitutional? Impeachment?

There is no Mulligan for a President or any office holder, committing an abusive or criminal act, 2 weeks from leaving office.... impeachment does not just disappear because the abuse took place two weeks from leaving.
I never said it did...But, EVERY American is afforded due process....where was that?

And, now even though it is expressed that the Chief Justice “SHALL” preside. Roberts wants nothing to do with this Kangaroo lynch mob of yours, so, they are installing Patrick Lehey....Are you freakin serious?

Pelosi, and Democrats, as well as anyone supporting this crap are anti American assholes.
So sue Justice Roberts. Take it to the Supreme Court. I'm sure they'll take the case. LOL

Elections have consequences, right?
Of coirse you miss the point. The Chief Justice of SCOTUS SHALL preside. Not may, or “we can put the slobbering Leahy in there”. SHALL. Roberts has already shot down your bullshit and said it isn’t legal. Go ahead and embarrass yourselves more. See moron, they would take the case. And you would lose.
Roberts never said such about the trial being a sham. He simply is copping out on being the presiding judge and out of the political limelight, because he can...constitutionally....
 

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The Senate has already impeached and tried an office holder, the secretary of war, after he no longer held the seat.

He was not the president, the constitution specifically enumerates the president and assigns him special powers and privileges and this conviction will be fought fiercely, especially when the charge is specious and gratuitous. There was no insurrection, not even the people actually ARRESTED there are being charged as such and Trump had no hand, conscious or otherwise in directing them.

Get stuffed.
Trump had everything to do with it.... He seeded the big lie, and egged it on.

As far as your c l aim the President is different than the vp and office holders......your claim, has no legs.

The constitution's impeachment clause is written with all three positions are held equally, in the same sentence regarding impeachment.



The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
Very nice. Trump is no longer in office. They are scared he will run again and it will be much harder to defraud him a second time. That is the truth, try admitting it.
They are most certainly trying to strip him from being able to run for any office, ever again. It's the sole purpose for the impeachment, even after he no longer held the office. No one is hiding that purpose.
Then that would fail since this process is unconstitutional
What process is unconstitutional? Impeachment?

There is no Mulligan for a President or any office holder, committing an abusive or criminal act, 2 weeks from leaving office.... impeachment does not just disappear because the abuse took place two weeks from leaving.
You cannot remove what is not there. Democrats have conducted a four year sideshow. If anybody embarrasses this country it is those assholes.
There are two separate votes required to complete a Senate impeachment trial.

One VOTE to convict and remove from office or not. Takes 2/3s voting to convict.

And the second, separate vote required, which only requires a majority vote, not the 2/3s vote, is whether or not to strip those impeached, from ever holding office again.

You can't vote to strip him from holding office again, without the impeachment trial, and that vote cast...

Thus, his holding office or not, matters naught....
Why are they so scared of one man? This much fuss you can bet he was working for the people. That is not done in DC. He had to be doing something right and that is not done in DC either.

You have admitted fraud by hiding evidence and censorship of the topic. You know you cannot beat him in a fair election. That is what you are admitting now. How is that serving the people like the government should?
We did beat him, by a landslide...7 million plus votes and 306 to 232 electoral votes.

Trump concocted the Big Lie, that the election was stolen from him months before the election was held, when his internal polling told him he was going to lose big-time to Biden.
You defrauded Trump. There was massive fraud and now a massive cover up that has failed.
 

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The Senate has already impeached and tried an office holder, the secretary of war, after he no longer held the seat.

He was not the president, the constitution specifically enumerates the president and assigns him special powers and privileges and this conviction will be fought fiercely, especially when the charge is specious and gratuitous. There was no insurrection, not even the people actually ARRESTED there are being charged as such and Trump had no hand, conscious or otherwise in directing them.

Get stuffed.
Trump had everything to do with it.... He seeded the big lie, and egged it on.

As far as your c l aim the President is different than the vp and office holders......your claim, has no legs.

The constitution's impeachment clause is written with all three positions are held equally, in the same sentence regarding impeachment.



The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
Very nice. Trump is no longer in office. They are scared he will run again and it will be much harder to defraud him a second time. That is the truth, try admitting it.
They are most certainly trying to strip him from being able to run for any office, ever again. It's the sole purpose for the impeachment, even after he no longer held the office. No one is hiding that purpose.
Then that would fail since this process is unconstitutional
What process is unconstitutional? Impeachment?

There is no Mulligan for a President or any office holder, committing an abusive or criminal act, 2 weeks from leaving office.... impeachment does not just disappear because the abuse took place two weeks from leaving.
You cannot remove what is not there. Democrats have conducted a four year sideshow. If anybody embarrasses this country it is those assholes.
There are two separate votes required to complete a Senate impeachment trial.

One VOTE to convict and remove from office or not. Takes 2/3s voting to convict.

And the second, separate vote required, which only requires a majority vote, not the 2/3s vote, is whether or not to strip those impeached, from ever holding office again.

You can't vote to strip him from holding office again, without the impeachment trial, and that vote cast...

Thus, his holding office or not, matters naught....
Why are they so scared of one man? This much fuss you can bet he was working for the people. That is not done in DC. He had to be doing something right and that is not done in DC either.

You have admitted fraud by hiding evidence and censorship of the topic. You know you cannot beat him in a fair election. That is what you are admitting now. How is that serving the people like the government should?
We did beat him, by a landslide...7 million plus votes and 306 to 232 electoral votes.

Trump concocted the Big Lie, that the election was stolen from him months before the election was held, when his internal polling told him he was going to lose big-time to Biden.
You defrauded Trump. There was massive fraud and now a massive cover up that has failed.
There truly and honestly was no massive voter fraud. You've been convinced there was... I can see that...but you've been conned, by a bunch of con artists...God as my witness!
 

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The Senate has already impeached and tried an office holder, the secretary of war, after he no longer held the seat.

He was not the president, the constitution specifically enumerates the president and assigns him special powers and privileges and this conviction will be fought fiercely, especially when the charge is specious and gratuitous. There was no insurrection, not even the people actually ARRESTED there are being charged as such and Trump had no hand, conscious or otherwise in directing them.

Get stuffed.
Trump had everything to do with it.... He seeded the big lie, and egged it on.

As far as your c l aim the President is different than the vp and office holders......your claim, has no legs.

The constitution's impeachment clause is written with all three positions are held equally, in the same sentence regarding impeachment.



The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
Very nice. Trump is no longer in office. They are scared he will run again and it will be much harder to defraud him a second time. That is the truth, try admitting it.
They are most certainly trying to strip him from being able to run for any office, ever again. It's the sole purpose for the impeachment, even after he no longer held the office. No one is hiding that purpose.
Then that would fail since this process is unconstitutional
What process is unconstitutional? Impeachment?

There is no Mulligan for a President or any office holder, committing an abusive or criminal act, 2 weeks from leaving office.... impeachment does not just disappear because the abuse took place two weeks from leaving.
You cannot remove what is not there. Democrats have conducted a four year sideshow. If anybody embarrasses this country it is those assholes.
There are two separate votes required to complete a Senate impeachment trial.

One VOTE to convict and remove from office or not. Takes 2/3s voting to convict.

And the second, separate vote required, which only requires a majority vote, not the 2/3s vote, is whether or not to strip those impeached, from ever holding office again.

You can't vote to strip him from holding office again, without the impeachment trial, and that vote cast...

Thus, his holding office or not, matters naught....
Why are they so scared of one man? This much fuss you can bet he was working for the people. That is not done in DC. He had to be doing something right and that is not done in DC either.

You have admitted fraud by hiding evidence and censorship of the topic. You know you cannot beat him in a fair election. That is what you are admitting now. How is that serving the people like the government should?
We did beat him, by a landslide...7 million plus votes and 306 to 232 electoral votes.

Trump concocted the Big Lie, that the election was stolen from him months before the election was held, when his internal polling told him he was going to lose big-time to Biden.
You defrauded Trump. There was massive fraud and now a massive cover up that has failed.
There truly and honestly was no massive voter fraud. You've been convinced there was... I can see that...but you've been conned, by a bunch of con artists...God as my witness!
There truly and honestly was no massive voter fraud.
No. There was truly and honestly massive fraud. Biden is a BOGUS POTUS.
 

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The Senate has already impeached and tried an office holder, the secretary of war, after he no longer held the seat.

He was not the president, the constitution specifically enumerates the president and assigns him special powers and privileges and this conviction will be fought fiercely, especially when the charge is specious and gratuitous. There was no insurrection, not even the people actually ARRESTED there are being charged as such and Trump had no hand, conscious or otherwise in directing them.

Get stuffed.
Trump had everything to do with it.... He seeded the big lie, and egged it on.

As far as your c l aim the President is different than the vp and office holders......your claim, has no legs.

The constitution's impeachment clause is written with all three positions are held equally, in the same sentence regarding impeachment.



The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
Very nice. Trump is no longer in office. They are scared he will run again and it will be much harder to defraud him a second time. That is the truth, try admitting it.
They are most certainly trying to strip him from being able to run for any office, ever again. It's the sole purpose for the impeachment, even after he no longer held the office. No one is hiding that purpose.
Then that would fail since this process is unconstitutional
What process is unconstitutional? Impeachment?

There is no Mulligan for a President or any office holder, committing an abusive or criminal act, 2 weeks from leaving office.... impeachment does not just disappear because the abuse took place two weeks from leaving.
You cannot remove what is not there. Democrats have conducted a four year sideshow. If anybody embarrasses this country it is those assholes.
There are two separate votes required to complete a Senate impeachment trial.

One VOTE to convict and remove from office or not. Takes 2/3s voting to convict.

And the second, separate vote required, which only requires a majority vote, not the 2/3s vote, is whether or not to strip those impeached, from ever holding office again.

You can't vote to strip him from holding office again, without the impeachment trial, and that vote cast...

Thus, his holding office or not, matters naught....
Why are they so scared of one man? This much fuss you can bet he was working for the people. That is not done in DC. He had to be doing something right and that is not done in DC either.

You have admitted fraud by hiding evidence and censorship of the topic. You know you cannot beat him in a fair election. That is what you are admitting now. How is that serving the people like the government should?
We did beat him, by a landslide...7 million plus votes and 306 to 232 electoral votes.

Trump concocted the Big Lie, that the election was stolen from him months before the election was held, when his internal polling told him he was going to lose big-time to Biden.
You defrauded Trump. There was massive fraud and now a massive cover up that has failed.
There truly and honestly was no massive voter fraud. You've been convinced there was... I can see that...but you've been conned, by a bunch of con artists...God as my witness!
There truly and honestly was no massive voter fraud.
No. There was truly and honestly massive fraud. Biden is a BOGUS POTUS.
Then tell me exactly what massive voter fraud took place, in at least 3 to 4 of these contentious battle ground, that would have been enough, to over turn that state's election.

There have been so many bogus claims that truly have been debunked, many because procedures were just misunderstood and even twisted to appear bad, when they weren't.

But if there are any that I may not have researched yet, I'd like to know them...So I can dig in to the details.

The Trump team of lawyers have act u ally not brought any actual fraud cases to court. All those cases that dems remind trumpets they lost in court were not fraud cases, but election law procedural issues... and they brought the same procedural issues to as many as ten states, losing in all of them, because the relief they were asking in every one of those cases, was to invalidate ALL absentee ballots in a county with a big city, and mostly minority voters, legally and constitutionally granted the rig h t to vote...because a handful of absentee ballot envelopes May have had a signature not checked, and things like that...and the case Judges basically said, ARE YOU CRAZY? to the Trump lawyers.

No cases of vote switching, or Dominion voting machine irregularities, or milktary swat teams capturing voter servers in Germany, or ballot stuffing, or any of the accusations made by Giuliani and team, in your right wing media was brought to court, by Giuliani and team....not one....ask yourself why not even one?

My bet is the law teams know if they presented a known bogus claim to the court, they could lose their law licences or censured in the least.

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Trump has to overturn too many states, to even come close to winning enough electoral votes... It's an impossible task, imo.
 
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In DC there may have been one dead hero and that hero was not killed by rioters but by Capitol Security.
You are supporting a domestic terrorist. You are a piece of shit
Wrong. I support the Constitution you seem determined to wipe your stinky ass on.
No you don't.
Former President Donald Trump can be convicted in an impeachment trial for his role in inciting the Capitol insurrection on Jan. 6 even though he is no longer in office, a bipartisan group of constitutional law scholars wrote in a letter Thursday.
And other and more impressive legal scholars say just the opposite. Alan Dershowitz is one.
During the stealing of the presidency some judges cited the principal of "latches" to deny Trump
legal pleadings.

Latches means in plain English "not timely or you're too late".
I wouldn't use Dershowitz as an example. He is listed as a visitor to Jeffrey's island.
Attorney Alan Dershowitz and the Jeffrey Epstein Case
nymag.com › intelligencer › 2019/07 › alan-dershowitz-j...

Jul 19, 2019 — The famed attorney Alan Dershowitz's onetime client Jeffrey Epstein was ... Dershowitz liked the island and has been coming back for 50 years. ... When I visited his downstairs bathroom, I noticed it was decorated with cheeky ...
Could be a reason for his reversal as an ultra-liberal to a defender of trump and Jeffrey, yes?
Your boys during Trump's inauguration American hater.
Anarchists aren’t anyone’s boys. You are just desperate now.
There was no outrage over on your side when it happens to a Republican. Only silence, and in fact Harris raised funds for bail for the democrat scumbags over the summer. That should get her impeached.
No, Harris didn't. You scumbags are trying to treat a legitimate protest over murders of unarmed citizens that actually happened to an insurrection because of something that didn't. There is no equivalence.
1 day of rioting incited and engaged in by Antifa and BLM, the 1st Trump even in hundreds, with millions attending those events combined, in which violence occurred...but it was just another day of violence for Antifa and BLM.

The destruction caused by these foreign-funded Democrat-supported domestic terrorist has cost our communities hundreds of BILLIONS of dollars...

...and unlike the Capitol event, it continues...just as Harris said it would...just as she called for it to continue.

"IT SHOULD NOT STOP. WE SHOULD NOT STOP!'



IMPEACH HER ASS!
Not that accuracy matters to you...but supporting PROTESTS is far different from supporting riots.

You hate both in the case of the events of the summer and SUPPORT both in the case of the Capitol Insurrection
Don't look now but you are doing the same thing. Who decides what is a riot and what is a protest?
No one but Trumpers could watch and hear all the video of those SAVAGES who broke in to the capitol searching for Pence to hang him, and others, or brutally and viciously attacking Capitol police with flag poles still bearing our sacred flag and 2x4s, and baseball bats, and fire extinguishers,

could not know the attack on the capitol was a riot and attempted insurrection.

You lost your "the party of law and order" claim....that you never should have owned in the first place.
They were let in by the police. It was a photo op your still milking. The one breaking the windows was a Bernie supporter so you have skin in this also.
The police did not let anybody in to destroy and kill.
They let them in for a photo op. Democrats have blood on their hands.
Nope! They are under investigation for being TRUMP sympathizers... :rolleyes:
There are also blm and antifa under investigation, we know they're liberals.
We do? What we know is that they are mostly black and you can translate that any way it suits you. If liberal they probably vote with the Dems, but so what? Violence
should not be tolerated and our military should clean it up because it is probably the same group that is being encouraged by white supremacists or some other entity.
The military couldn't go in because the liberal mayors and governors wanted the violence.
Nope, the mayor doesn't control the capitol btw, and others like the governor of Maryland asked for permission for the Maryland NG to be brought in.... but it took 2 hours plus, to get the permission from the Trump admin to enter DC.
Trump offered Portland the national guard and said they would stop it. They said no. Stop trying to rewrite history. You people ruined thousands of peoples lives. Trying to make Trump look bad, you people are scum.
I'm sorry, Portland is Portland's problem....the governor and mayor and citizens in that state can work and solve their problems... I have zero say.

But the US Capitol is my capitol and your capitol and the nation's capitol.... I do have say, the damage and harm by these rioters, hurt me and all other Americans across the nation.

Why even try to compare Apples and oranges?
Portland and DC are BOTH equally America and belong equally to all American citizens. Or did before it was overrun by Biden's Bitches. But that won't last either.
The buildings in Oregon that were destroyed do NOT belong equally to all American citizens. Stop trying to compare the two violent acts so that you can gain some solace. Why are you politicizing these incidents unless you think that an attack on our government demands the same attention as any other violent act?
Usurping our Democracy and trying to kill our lawmakers deserves what those criminal insurrectionists will get. They were trying to create a coup for that encouraging menace, Trump. A little different purpose, yes? Think about a dictatorship under the control of Trump and his thugs. The attackers out west will also get theirs and it is time that force is used--lethal force.
Leftists barricaded Fed agents inside a FEDERAL COURTHOUSE and tried to burn it down, Fuckstick.


Were they "leftists" or just stupid like you? They are anarchists and could be anything and it doesn't matter who they vote for, get it yet? A federal courthouse and the federal seat of our Democracy? Really? Both are class one felonies.
You are a genius waiting to happen, yes? Do you still live with your mother?
You really get triggered when your bullshit lies are exposed, huh?
You believe your bullshit lies, yes?
You made bullshit claims.

I brought a link proving they were bullshit.

You lose, deal with it.
The more I read what you morons have to say, the more apt I am to change my opposition to impeachment because he has manipulated some very nice people over the last 4 years.
Facts always upset idiot Dimwingers like you.
I wish you had some facts so that I could be upset.
Thanks for once again admitting you are immune to facts.
Those who are in oregon know..

Oregon anarchists. Been around for decades and pop up every so often. Especially in Portland and Eugene. They show up, break stuff until they get arrested and disappear for a few more years. Basically hippies that get violent. They don't have anything to do with Antifa, BLM or really anything. They are just pain in the ass kids that end up ruining their lives going to jail for being stupid.

its reality, deal with it.
This is true. I lived in Portland for years and it's always been a battle between the white supremacists in the smaller mountain towns and the left wing anarchists in Portland, Bend, Eugene and Corvallis.
 

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The Senate has already impeached and tried an office holder, the secretary of war, after he no longer held the seat.

He was not the president, the constitution specifically enumerates the president and assigns him special powers and privileges and this conviction will be fought fiercely, especially when the charge is specious and gratuitous. There was no insurrection, not even the people actually ARRESTED there are being charged as such and Trump had no hand, conscious or otherwise in directing them.

Get stuffed.
Trump had everything to do with it.... He seeded the big lie, and egged it on.

As far as your c l aim the President is different than the vp and office holders......your claim, has no legs.

The constitution's impeachment clause is written with all three positions are held equally, in the same sentence regarding impeachment.



The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
Very nice. Trump is no longer in office. They are scared he will run again and it will be much harder to defraud him a second time. That is the truth, try admitting it.
They are most certainly trying to strip him from being able to run for any office, ever again. It's the sole purpose for the impeachment, even after he no longer held the office. No one is hiding that purpose.
Then that would fail since this process is unconstitutional
What process is unconstitutional? Impeachment?

There is no Mulligan for a President or any office holder, committing an abusive or criminal act, 2 weeks from leaving office.... impeachment does not just disappear because the abuse took place two weeks from leaving.
You cannot remove what is not there. Democrats have conducted a four year sideshow. If anybody embarrasses this country it is those assholes.
There are two separate votes required to complete a Senate impeachment trial.

One VOTE to convict and remove from office or not. Takes 2/3s voting to convict.

And the second, separate vote required, which only requires a majority vote, not the 2/3s vote, is whether or not to strip those impeached, from ever holding office again.

You can't vote to strip him from holding office again, without the impeachment trial, and that vote cast...

Thus, his holding office or not, matters naught....
Why are they so scared of one man? This much fuss you can bet he was working for the people. That is not done in DC. He had to be doing something right and that is not done in DC either.

You have admitted fraud by hiding evidence and censorship of the topic. You know you cannot beat him in a fair election. That is what you are admitting now. How is that serving the people like the government should?
We did beat him, by a landslide...7 million plus votes and 306 to 232 electoral votes.

Trump concocted the Big Lie, that the election was stolen from him months before the election was held, when his internal polling told him he was going to lose big-time to Biden.
You defrauded Trump. There was massive fraud and now a massive cover up that has failed.
There truly and honestly was no massive voter fraud. You've been convinced there was... I can see that...but you've been conned, by a bunch of con artists...God as my witness!
There truly and honestly was no massive voter fraud.
No. There was truly and honestly massive fraud. Biden is a BOGUS POTUS.
There was no fraud.
 

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Nope. Not proven the protestors killed anybody. Maybe some evidence one rioter might have been involved in a homicide. Overwhelming evidence a Capitol cop committed homicide and that you are somehow trying to blame that on alleged rioters with unproven intentions.
Sure. Clock someone in the head with a fire extinguisher and hours later they die of a stroke.

Then pretend like it was totally unrelated.

So you think the police should have waited for the mob to overrun Congress so they could find out their intentions?
Funny how these types defend police shooting unarmed blacks because they believed their lives were in danger but expect cops to wait until they asre hurt to respind when whites are involved.
 

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Hey fuckwad, if you have no witnesses, you have no case. Those “witnesses” of your stupidity never testified doofus. Clinton was impeached for lying to Congress moron. How many times do you have to be told this? Lost jobs? That’s on blue state governors who refused to open their states. Riots? That’s on you and your side idiot. Do us a favor and leave our country since you hate it so much. Nobody will miss you.
Clinton wasn't impeached for lying to Congress, he was impeached for not admitting to getting a blow job in a civil case that was dismissed as having no merit.

If Trump escapes impeachment this time, it will only be because of the cowardice of the Republican Party.

Sadly, the cowardice of the GOP has been the story of the last four years.
 

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Hey fuckwad, if you have no witnesses, you have no case. Those “witnesses” of your stupidity never testified doofus. Clinton was impeached for lying to Congress moron. How many times do you have to be told this? Lost jobs? That’s on blue state governors who refused to open their states. Riots? That’s on you and your side idiot. Do us a favor and leave our country since you hate it so much. Nobody will miss you.
Clinton wasn't impeached for lying to Congress, he was impeached for not admitting to getting a blow job in a civil case that was dismissed as having no merit.

If Trump escapes impeachment this time, it will only be because of the cowardice of the Republican Party.

Sadly, the cowardice of the GOP has been the story of the last four years.
 

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The Senate has already impeached and tried an office holder, the secretary of war, after he no longer held the seat.

He was not the president, the constitution specifically enumerates the president and assigns him special powers and privileges and this conviction will be fought fiercely, especially when the charge is specious and gratuitous. There was no insurrection, not even the people actually ARRESTED there are being charged as such and Trump had no hand, conscious or otherwise in directing them.

Get stuffed.
Trump had everything to do with it.... He seeded the big lie, and egged it on.

As far as your c l aim the President is different than the vp and office holders......your claim, has no legs.

The constitution's impeachment clause is written with all three positions are held equally, in the same sentence regarding impeachment.



The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
Very nice. Trump is no longer in office. They are scared he will run again and it will be much harder to defraud him a second time. That is the truth, try admitting it.
They are most certainly trying to strip him from being able to run for any office, ever again. It's the sole purpose for the impeachment, even after he no longer held the office. No one is hiding that purpose.
Then that would fail since this process is unconstitutional
What process is unconstitutional? Impeachment?

There is no Mulligan for a President or any office holder, committing an abusive or criminal act, 2 weeks from leaving office.... impeachment does not just disappear because the abuse took place two weeks from leaving.
You cannot remove what is not there. Democrats have conducted a four year sideshow. If anybody embarrasses this country it is those assholes.
There are two separate votes required to complete a Senate impeachment trial.

One VOTE to convict and remove from office or not. Takes 2/3s voting to convict.

And the second, separate vote required, which only requires a majority vote, not the 2/3s vote, is whether or not to strip those impeached, from ever holding office again.

You can't vote to strip him from holding office again, without the impeachment trial, and that vote cast...

Thus, his holding office or not, matters naught....
Why are they so scared of one man? This much fuss you can bet he was working for the people. That is not done in DC. He had to be doing something right and that is not done in DC either.

You have admitted fraud by hiding evidence and censorship of the topic. You know you cannot beat him in a fair election. That is what you are admitting now. How is that serving the people like the government should?
No, none of this is true. trump broke laws. Plain and simple.
 

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"Hey fuckwad, if you have no witnesses, you have no case. Those “witnesses” of your stupidity never testified doofus. Clinton was impeached for lying to Congress moron. How many times do you have to be told this? Lost jobs? That’s on blue state governors who refused to open their states. Riots? That’s on you and your side idiot. Do us a favor and leave our country since you hate it so much. Nobody will miss you. "

We saw on 1-6 who hates the country. This post is pure bullshit.
 

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