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Elections have consequences.

If Trump wins and Republicans retain control of the Senate we can pack the court and Dems won't oppose it?

They will need the House also

If Dems take all three, why should they not use their power?
Because it would be stupid and appear to the centrists to be a open move to grasp political power at any cost. That would cost the Democrats in the next election in 2022.

You think appointing Barrett doesn't look like an open move to grasp political power?

It looks like another HUGE win for president Trump to me! :eusa_dance:

What did Trump do?

McConnell blocked Obama from filling seats and then packed the courts with young Conservatives
Didn't block anything. Just didn't call a vote. His right.

And it will be the Democrat's right to add more members to the court.
That is a horrible idea, no natter which side does it.
I can’t stress that enough.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea. Now that your party set the precedent, it's a little late for you to start whining about what your party set in motion.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea.

How many did he block?

Now that your party set the precedent,

You think 2015-2016 was the first time a Senate controlled by an opposing party has left some
court seats open at the end of a President's term? LOL!
They just don’t seem to get it.
Then they take their perceived slight, and think “well then we will do this!” And plan to do something incredibly stupid (pack the court.
Despite me saying repeatedly that I would be opposed to anyone doing it, and telling them it’s an absolutely horrible road to go down, they keep responding like bitter little partisans.
Hey clowns, ITS A HORRIBLE IDEA NO MATTER WHO DOES IT!!!
it's a demofk threat and only a demofk threat. stop with the both party shit. The GOP never ever did what the demofks do. never ever. The demofks created the nuclear option in the Senate. Not the republicans. Ending filibustering was the demofks, not the republicans, and now they are threatening this. It is always a threat from the demofks. Alwys
Mitch turned the filibuster from a rarely used tool to a constant 60 vote requirement
That’s how it works when the majority party won’t compromise with the minority party. The filibuster was designed to force compromise rather than one party rule.
Thats what happens when you have minority rule.

The Republicans exist on minority rule in the Senate, House, White House and now the Courts

Democrats are also a minority party, Sport. Your command of the English language is as bad as the government that educated you

Most Americans overwhelmingly vote Democratic

In the Senate, Dems control the big population states of California, NY and Illinois
Republicans counter with Wyoming and the Dakotas and get the same number of Senators

In the House, Republicans used the census of 2010 to Gerrymander représentation well in excess of the votes they received.

Of Course, Trump received 3 million fewer votes than Clinton

That is why Mitch McConnell is so intent on seizing the court system for a generation by packing it with young, unqualified Conservatives

More of your lies. Hillary didn't get a majority. Most Democrats don't. You're another government educated failure who literally doesn't know what the word "majority" means.

The country is split, independents are a large percent. Few candidates get a majority

Trump got 3 million fewer votes than Hillary.
So? Means absolutely nothing, moron.

When will you idiots learn how we elect a President?
 
Elections have consequences.

If Trump wins and Republicans retain control of the Senate we can pack the court and Dems won't oppose it?

They will need the House also

If Dems take all three, why should they not use their power?
Because it would be stupid and appear to the centrists to be a open move to grasp political power at any cost. That would cost the Democrats in the next election in 2022.

You think appointing Barrett doesn't look like an open move to grasp political power?

It looks like another HUGE win for president Trump to me! :eusa_dance:

What did Trump do?

McConnell blocked Obama from filling seats and then packed the courts with young Conservatives
Didn't block anything. Just didn't call a vote. His right.

And it will be the Democrat's right to add more members to the court.
That is a horrible idea, no natter which side does it.
I can’t stress that enough.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea. Now that your party set the precedent, it's a little late for you to start whining about what your party set in motion.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea.

How many did he block?

Now that your party set the precedent,

You think 2015-2016 was the first time a Senate controlled by an opposing party has left some
court seats open at the end of a President's term? LOL!
They just don’t seem to get it.
Then they take their perceived slight, and think “well then we will do this!” And plan to do something incredibly stupid (pack the court.
Despite me saying repeatedly that I would be opposed to anyone doing it, and telling them it’s an absolutely horrible road to go down, they keep responding like bitter little partisans.
Hey clowns, ITS A HORRIBLE IDEA NO MATTER WHO DOES IT!!!
it's a demofk threat and only a demofk threat. stop with the both party shit. The GOP never ever did what the demofks do. never ever. The demofks created the nuclear option in the Senate. Not the republicans. Ending filibustering was the demofks, not the republicans, and now they are threatening this. It is always a threat from the demofks. Alwys
Mitch turned the filibuster from a rarely used tool to a constant 60 vote requirement
That’s how it works when the majority party won’t compromise with the minority party. The filibuster was designed to force compromise rather than one party rule.
Thats what happens when you have minority rule.

The Republicans exist on minority rule in the Senate, House, White House and now the Courts

Democrats are also a minority party, Sport. Your command of the English language is as bad as the government that educated you

Most Americans overwhelmingly vote Democratic

In the Senate, Dems control the big population states of California, NY and Illinois
Republicans counter with Wyoming and the Dakotas and get the same number of Senators

In the House, Republicans used the census of 2010 to Gerrymander représentation well in excess of the votes they received.

Of Course, Trump received 3 million fewer votes than Clinton

That is why Mitch McConnell is so intent on seizing the court system for a generation by packing it with young, unqualified Conservatives

More of your lies. Hillary didn't get a majority. Most Democrats don't. You're another government educated failure who literally doesn't know what the word "majority" means.

The country is split, independents are a large percent. Few candidates get a majority

Trump got 3 million fewer votes than Hillary.

Hillary didn't get a majority. The majority of voters voted "no" to Hillary. You went to a government school, didn't you?
 
Elections have consequences.

If Trump wins and Republicans retain control of the Senate we can pack the court and Dems won't oppose it?

They will need the House also

If Dems take all three, why should they not use their power?
Because it would be stupid and appear to the centrists to be a open move to grasp political power at any cost. That would cost the Democrats in the next election in 2022.

You think appointing Barrett doesn't look like an open move to grasp political power?

It looks like another HUGE win for president Trump to me! :eusa_dance:

What did Trump do?

McConnell blocked Obama from filling seats and then packed the courts with young Conservatives
Didn't block anything. Just didn't call a vote. His right.

And it will be the Democrat's right to add more members to the court.
That is a horrible idea, no natter which side does it.
I can’t stress that enough.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea. Now that your party set the precedent, it's a little late for you to start whining about what your party set in motion.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea.

How many did he block?

Now that your party set the precedent,

You think 2015-2016 was the first time a Senate controlled by an opposing party has left some
court seats open at the end of a President's term? LOL!
They just don’t seem to get it.
Then they take their perceived slight, and think “well then we will do this!” And plan to do something incredibly stupid (pack the court.
Despite me saying repeatedly that I would be opposed to anyone doing it, and telling them it’s an absolutely horrible road to go down, they keep responding like bitter little partisans.
Hey clowns, ITS A HORRIBLE IDEA NO MATTER WHO DOES IT!!!
it's a demofk threat and only a demofk threat. stop with the both party shit. The GOP never ever did what the demofks do. never ever. The demofks created the nuclear option in the Senate. Not the republicans. Ending filibustering was the demofks, not the republicans, and now they are threatening this. It is always a threat from the demofks. Alwys
Mitch turned the filibuster from a rarely used tool to a constant 60 vote requirement
That’s how it works when the majority party won’t compromise with the minority party. The filibuster was designed to force compromise rather than one party rule.
Thats what happens when you have minority rule.

The Republicans exist on minority rule in the Senate, House, White House and now the Courts

Democrats are also a minority party, Sport. Your command of the English language is as bad as the government that educated you

Republicans are the minority party, Sport. The Senators who voted for ACB represent 13.5 million FEWER voters that the Senators who voted against her. Republicans have been the minority party for years, winning the House with consistently fewer votes than Democrats. Trump lost the popular vote.

The packing of the courts will be undone. There won't be enough Republicans left to stop them after this election.

You get more deranged every day. There is no "packing", even the Dems have dropped that stupid talking point. What is your obsession with the "popular vote"? It means nothing in the United States.

The will of the people does mean something in the U.S. They weren't capable of counting the popular vote, so the electoral college was in the constitution, but it was never meant to override the will of the people. Since 1864, the first year popular vote was recorded, that fluke has only appeared 5 times.

That doesn't even make sense. How would the EC "override the will of the people" when that's how we conduct elections in this country?
Funny how Dimwingers weren't bleating about the EC overriding the will of the people when Barry was elected by the EC, huh? :cuckoo:
 
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Everything in life has Consequences

Those consequences could be adding judges to the court or ending the filibuster

Another consequence will be an end of cooperation with Republicans
Why not win the Senate and the White House and do it like Republicans did?

It can happen.

Then what about all those new precedents you lot set?

Like the judicial filibuster? No wait, that was you.
Ending the judicial filibuster? Oh, you again.
Filibustering administration nominees? Um ... you
Ending filibustering administration nominees? No wait, you again
Changing the rules to get Obamacare though? Um ... you again ... huh
Filibustering SCOTUS picks? No wait, that's you. Only ever done to Rehnquist (chief), Alito and Gorsuch.

Wow, those wascally wepublicans, huh????
"Filibustering SCOTUS picks? No wait, that's you. Only ever done to Rehnquist (chief), Alito and Gorsuch."

Kazzing again? Abe Fortas, 1968.

Fortas wasn't filibustered, there was one cloture vote. Don't know what a filibuster is, huh, little boy?

And it was both parties that voted against cloture.

And one more, he wasn't filibustered as a SCOTUS nomination.

Do you know what the issue with Fortas was? Do you know why he had to resign from the court completely? Same reason. Had nothing to do with party, angry tyke.

Wow, you really don't know what you're talking about
Imbecile...


Fortas became the first sitting associate justice, nominated for chief justice

[...]

Although the committee recommended confirmation, floor consideration sparked a filibuster.

<smh>
 
Elections have consequences.

If Trump wins and Republicans retain control of the Senate we can pack the court and Dems won't oppose it?

They will need the House also

If Dems take all three, why should they not use their power?
Because it would be stupid and appear to the centrists to be a open move to grasp political power at any cost. That would cost the Democrats in the next election in 2022.

You think appointing Barrett doesn't look like an open move to grasp political power?

It looks like another HUGE win for president Trump to me! :eusa_dance:

What did Trump do?

McConnell blocked Obama from filling seats and then packed the courts with young Conservatives
Didn't block anything. Just didn't call a vote. His right.

And it will be the Democrat's right to add more members to the court.
That is a horrible idea, no natter which side does it.
I can’t stress that enough.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea. Now that your party set the precedent, it's a little late for you to start whining about what your party set in motion.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea.

How many did he block?

Now that your party set the precedent,

You think 2015-2016 was the first time a Senate controlled by an opposing party has left some
court seats open at the end of a President's term? LOL!
They just don’t seem to get it.
Then they take their perceived slight, and think “well then we will do this!” And plan to do something incredibly stupid (pack the court.
Despite me saying repeatedly that I would be opposed to anyone doing it, and telling them it’s an absolutely horrible road to go down, they keep responding like bitter little partisans.
Hey clowns, ITS A HORRIBLE IDEA NO MATTER WHO DOES IT!!!
it's a demofk threat and only a demofk threat. stop with the both party shit. The GOP never ever did what the demofks do. never ever. The demofks created the nuclear option in the Senate. Not the republicans. Ending filibustering was the demofks, not the republicans, and now they are threatening this. It is always a threat from the demofks. Alwys
Mitch turned the filibuster from a rarely used tool to a constant 60 vote requirement
That’s how it works when the majority party won’t compromise with the minority party. The filibuster was designed to force compromise rather than one party rule.
Thats what happens when you have minority rule.

The Republicans exist on minority rule in the Senate, House, White House and now the Courts

Democrats are also a minority party, Sport. Your command of the English language is as bad as the government that educated you

Republicans are the minority party, Sport. The Senators who voted for ACB represent 13.5 million FEWER voters that the Senators who voted against her. Republicans have been the minority party for years, winning the House with consistently fewer votes than Democrats. Trump lost the popular vote.

The packing of the courts will be undone. There won't be enough Republicans left to stop them after this election.

You get more deranged every day. There is no "packing", even the Dems have dropped that stupid talking point. What is your obsession with the "popular vote"? It means nothing in the United States.

The will of the people does mean something in the U.S. They weren't capable of counting the popular vote, so the electoral college was in the constitution, but it was never meant to override the will of the people. Since 1864, the first year popular vote was recorded, that fluke has only appeared 5 times.
If they weren't capable of counting the popular vote, WTF did they count to get to the EC result?

This should be funny...................
 
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Everything in life has Consequences

Those consequences could be adding judges to the court or ending the filibuster

Another consequence will be an end of cooperation with Republicans
Why not win the Senate and the White House and do it like Republicans did?

It can happen.

Then what about all those new precedents you lot set?

Like the judicial filibuster? No wait, that was you.
Ending the judicial filibuster? Oh, you again.

Why do you deliberately omit stuff?

Who ended the SCOTUS filibuster?

WHO blocked want was normally a pretty routine Presidential right to fill judicial vacancies in order to "save them" for their team (and no, I don't mean voting DOWN applicants).

WHO made up a new rule to prevent a president from filling a vacancy before an election?

and WHO reversed that rule 2 weeks before an election?

Those are MAJOR precedents and don't deny it. You know. If they weren't that made up rule would have held for 2020 instead of creating yet another precedent.

SO why shouldn't the Dems pack the court given YOUR behavior?
It's very simple. Win the Senate and the White House. Duh!

So you'll be fine with it if they win it and do that? There has already been a lot of whining from you guys about the possibility.

Bad ideas are still bad ideas.
You can't name anything they did out of order or against the constitutional process.

Yet, the Rs did something wrong.

You not liking it doesn't make it wrong.

Coyote also can't list a single time Democrats didn't confirm a Democrat scotus pick and waited for an election as she demands the Republicans do
Dems never refused to fill a seat in an election year (10 months away) and then filled a seat days before the election when it favored them
They never had the chance. If the roles were reversed there is no doubt Chucky would to exactly what Mitch is doing.............so grow the fuck up and accept reality for once in your pathetic life.

These idiot Democrats claiming they are pure as the driven snow and just get screwed by the wascally wepublicans is just the lamest crap ever
They are cry babies
 
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Elections have consequences.

If Trump wins and Republicans retain control of the Senate we can pack the court and Dems won't oppose it?

They will need the House also

If Dems take all three, why should they not use their power?
Because it would be stupid and appear to the centrists to be a open move to grasp political power at any cost. That would cost the Democrats in the next election in 2022.

You think appointing Barrett doesn't look like an open move to grasp political power?

It looks like another HUGE win for president Trump to me! :eusa_dance:

What did Trump do?

McConnell blocked Obama from filling seats and then packed the courts with young Conservatives
Didn't block anything. Just didn't call a vote. His right.

And it will be the Democrat's right to add more members to the court.
That is a horrible idea, no natter which side does it.
I can’t stress that enough.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea. Now that your party set the precedent, it's a little late for you to start whining about what your party set in motion.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea.

How many did he block?

Now that your party set the precedent,

You think 2015-2016 was the first time a Senate controlled by an opposing party has left some
court seats open at the end of a President's term? LOL!
They just don’t seem to get it.
Then they take their perceived slight, and think “well then we will do this!” And plan to do something incredibly stupid (pack the court.
Despite me saying repeatedly that I would be opposed to anyone doing it, and telling them it’s an absolutely horrible road to go down, they keep responding like bitter little partisans.
Hey clowns, ITS A HORRIBLE IDEA NO MATTER WHO DOES IT!!!
it's a demofk threat and only a demofk threat. stop with the both party shit. The GOP never ever did what the demofks do. never ever. The demofks created the nuclear option in the Senate. Not the republicans. Ending filibustering was the demofks, not the republicans, and now they are threatening this. It is always a threat from the demofks. Alwys
Mitch turned the filibuster from a rarely used tool to a constant 60 vote requirement
That’s how it works when the majority party won’t compromise with the minority party. The filibuster was designed to force compromise rather than one party rule.
Thats what happens when you have minority rule.

The Republicans exist on minority rule in the Senate, House, White House and now the Courts

Democrats are also a minority party, Sport. Your command of the English language is as bad as the government that educated you

Most Americans overwhelmingly vote Democratic

In the Senate, Dems control the big population states of California, NY and Illinois
Republicans counter with Wyoming and the Dakotas and get the same number of Senators

In the House, Republicans used the census of 2010 to Gerrymander représentation well in excess of the votes they received.

Of Course, Trump received 3 million fewer votes than Clinton

That is why Mitch McConnell is so intent on seizing the court system for a generation by packing it with young, unqualified Conservatives
It is easy to run as a Prog. If you are giving things away most people jump on it. The areas you control suffer slow deaths or the money in them is uneven. How on God's green earth can slums stay the same for year after year, decade after decade, soon enough it will be a century for some areas. And that means there is money funneling in from outside the areas combined with shakedowns of the prepostorous "giving back" extortions. No shame for the begging. The worst part is that Prog voters have left many areas in them and near them. Frauds all ofthem.
 
Everything in life has Consequences

Those consequences could be adding judges to the court or ending the filibuster

Another consequence will be an end of cooperation with Republicans
Why not win the Senate and the White House and do it like Republicans did?

It can happen.

Then what about all those new precedents you lot set?

Like the judicial filibuster? No wait, that was you.
Ending the judicial filibuster? Oh, you again.

Why do you deliberately omit stuff?

Who ended the SCOTUS filibuster?

WHO blocked want was normally a pretty routine Presidential right to fill judicial vacancies in order to "save them" for their team (and no, I don't mean voting DOWN applicants).

WHO made up a new rule to prevent a president from filling a vacancy before an election?

and WHO reversed that rule 2 weeks before an election?

Those are MAJOR precedents and don't deny it. You know. If they weren't that made up rule would have held for 2020 instead of creating yet another precedent.

SO why shouldn't the Dems pack the court given YOUR behavior?
It's very simple. Win the Senate and the White House. Duh!

So you'll be fine with it if they win it and do that? There has already been a lot of whining from you guys about the possibility.

Bad ideas are still bad ideas.
You can't name anything they did out of order or against the constitutional process.

Yet, the Rs did something wrong.

You not liking it doesn't make it wrong.

Coyote also can't list a single time Democrats didn't confirm a Democrat scotus pick and waited for an election as she demands the Republicans do
Dems never refused to fill a seat in an election year (10 months away) and then filled a seat days before the election when it favored them
Exactly...Kaz seems to miss that. The Dems didn’t invent and disinvent new rules.

Coyote: "The Dems didn’t invent and disinvent new rules."

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Democrats
- Said no Republican nominations with a Democrat Senate in an election year (Biden)
- Created the judicial filibuster under W
- Created the administration nomination filibuster under W
- Created the SCOTUS filibuster under W
- Were the only party to try to filibuster SCOTUS nominations - Rehnquist (chief), Alito and Gorsuch - The only times it was ever attempted were by Democrats
- Changed the rules to implement Obamacare despite losing their filibuster proof majority because of Scott Brown
- Eliminated the judicial filibuster under O
- Eliminated the administration nomination filibuster under O

Republicans
- Eliminated the SCOTUS filibuster under Trump
"Said no Republican nominations with a Democrat Senate in an election year (Biden)"

That's as far as I got to see you're just kazzing again.

As you yourself showed when you posted Biden's quote, Biden never said that.
 
Elections have consequences.

If Trump wins and Republicans retain control of the Senate we can pack the court and Dems won't oppose it?

They will need the House also

If Dems take all three, why should they not use their power?
Because it would be stupid and appear to the centrists to be a open move to grasp political power at any cost. That would cost the Democrats in the next election in 2022.

You think appointing Barrett doesn't look like an open move to grasp political power?

It looks like another HUGE win for president Trump to me! :eusa_dance:

What did Trump do?

McConnell blocked Obama from filling seats and then packed the courts with young Conservatives
Didn't block anything. Just didn't call a vote. His right.

And it will be the Democrat's right to add more members to the court.
That is a horrible idea, no natter which side does it.
I can’t stress that enough.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea. Now that your party set the precedent, it's a little late for you to start whining about what your party set in motion.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea.

How many did he block?

Now that your party set the precedent,

You think 2015-2016 was the first time a Senate controlled by an opposing party has left some
court seats open at the end of a President's term? LOL!
They just don’t seem to get it.
Then they take their perceived slight, and think “well then we will do this!” And plan to do something incredibly stupid (pack the court.
Despite me saying repeatedly that I would be opposed to anyone doing it, and telling them it’s an absolutely horrible road to go down, they keep responding like bitter little partisans.
Hey clowns, ITS A HORRIBLE IDEA NO MATTER WHO DOES IT!!!
it's a demofk threat and only a demofk threat. stop with the both party shit. The GOP never ever did what the demofks do. never ever. The demofks created the nuclear option in the Senate. Not the republicans. Ending filibustering was the demofks, not the republicans, and now they are threatening this. It is always a threat from the demofks. Alwys
Mitch turned the filibuster from a rarely used tool to a constant 60 vote requirement
That’s how it works when the majority party won’t compromise with the minority party. The filibuster was designed to force compromise rather than one party rule.
The DNC played dirty when they had power .........they threw down the gauntlet and declared War.................and now they are pissed when we picked up the gauntlet and smacked you in the face with it.

Oh well.



The gauntlet was thrown down, and war declared in 94 by Newt Gingrich, Dick Army, and Tom Delay, when they took orders from the Heritage Foundation and launched the Contract On America. The rancor and refusal to cooperate has only grown since then.

Your side has no business saying you would be civil and negotiate anything for decades now.

Your Tribe is burning Philly to the ground now......Your tribe is running over police officers there with a dang Pick up Truck.

Obama said get in the back of the bus........then FISA .......IRS........Up yours.........Your side wanted a dang War.......at least we aren't burning shit down when we don't get our way..........Fuck off

You too are kazzing, Obama said nothing about a bus.
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Everything in life has Consequences

Those consequences could be adding judges to the court or ending the filibuster

Another consequence will be an end of cooperation with Republicans
Why not win the Senate and the White House and do it like Republicans did?

It can happen.

Then what about all those new precedents you lot set?

Like the judicial filibuster? No wait, that was you.
Ending the judicial filibuster? Oh, you again.
Filibustering administration nominees? Um ... you
Ending filibustering administration nominees? No wait, you again
Changing the rules to get Obamacare though? Um ... you again ... huh
Filibustering SCOTUS picks? No wait, that's you. Only ever done to Rehnquist (chief), Alito and Gorsuch.

Wow, those wascally wepublicans, huh????
"Filibustering SCOTUS picks? No wait, that's you. Only ever done to Rehnquist (chief), Alito and Gorsuch."

Kazzing again? Abe Fortas, 1968.

Fortas wasn't filibustered, there was one cloture vote. Don't know what a filibuster is, huh, little boy?

And it was both parties that voted against cloture.

And one more, he wasn't filibustered as a SCOTUS nomination.

Do you know what the issue with Fortas was? Do you know why he had to resign from the court completely? Same reason. Had nothing to do with party, angry tyke.

Wow, you really don't know what you're talking about
Imbecile...

Fortas became the first sitting associate justice, nominated for chief justice
[...]
Although the committee recommended confirmation, floor consideration sparked a filibuster.

<smh>

No, it wasn't a filibuster, angry little dude. How many cloture votes were there?
 
Elections have consequences.

If Trump wins and Republicans retain control of the Senate we can pack the court and Dems won't oppose it?

They will need the House also

If Dems take all three, why should they not use their power?
Because it would be stupid and appear to the centrists to be a open move to grasp political power at any cost. That would cost the Democrats in the next election in 2022.

You think appointing Barrett doesn't look like an open move to grasp political power?

It looks like another HUGE win for president Trump to me! :eusa_dance:

What did Trump do?

McConnell blocked Obama from filling seats and then packed the courts with young Conservatives
Didn't block anything. Just didn't call a vote. His right.

And it will be the Democrat's right to add more members to the court.
That is a horrible idea, no natter which side does it.
I can’t stress that enough.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea. Now that your party set the precedent, it's a little late for you to start whining about what your party set in motion.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea.

How many did he block?

Now that your party set the precedent,

You think 2015-2016 was the first time a Senate controlled by an opposing party has left some
court seats open at the end of a President's term? LOL!
They just don’t seem to get it.
Then they take their perceived slight, and think “well then we will do this!” And plan to do something incredibly stupid (pack the court.
Despite me saying repeatedly that I would be opposed to anyone doing it, and telling them it’s an absolutely horrible road to go down, they keep responding like bitter little partisans.
Hey clowns, ITS A HORRIBLE IDEA NO MATTER WHO DOES IT!!!
it's a demofk threat and only a demofk threat. stop with the both party shit. The GOP never ever did what the demofks do. never ever. The demofks created the nuclear option in the Senate. Not the republicans. Ending filibustering was the demofks, not the republicans, and now they are threatening this. It is always a threat from the demofks. Alwys
Mitch turned the filibuster from a rarely used tool to a constant 60 vote requirement
That’s how it works when the majority party won’t compromise with the minority party. The filibuster was designed to force compromise rather than one party rule.
Thats what happens when you have minority rule.

The Republicans exist on minority rule in the Senate, House, White House and now the Courts

Democrats are also a minority party, Sport. Your command of the English language is as bad as the government that educated you

Republicans are the minority party, Sport. The Senators who voted for ACB represent 13.5 million FEWER voters that the Senators who voted against her. Republicans have been the minority party for years, winning the House with consistently fewer votes than Democrats. Trump lost the popular vote.

The packing of the courts will be undone. There won't be enough Republicans left to stop them after this election.

You get more deranged every day. There is no "packing", even the Dems have dropped that stupid talking point. What is your obsession with the "popular vote"? It means nothing in the United States.

The will of the people does mean something in the U.S. They weren't capable of counting the popular vote, so the electoral college was in the constitution, but it was never meant to override the will of the people. Since 1864, the first year popular vote was recorded, that fluke has only appeared 5 times.
Another totally ignorant idiotic post from the left. You guys are on a roll.

So point out the part you think is wrong dumb ass.
 
Elections have consequences.

If Trump wins and Republicans retain control of the Senate we can pack the court and Dems won't oppose it?

They will need the House also

If Dems take all three, why should they not use their power?
Because it would be stupid and appear to the centrists to be a open move to grasp political power at any cost. That would cost the Democrats in the next election in 2022.

You think appointing Barrett doesn't look like an open move to grasp political power?

It looks like another HUGE win for president Trump to me! :eusa_dance:

What did Trump do?

McConnell blocked Obama from filling seats and then packed the courts with young Conservatives
Didn't block anything. Just didn't call a vote. His right.

And it will be the Democrat's right to add more members to the court.
That is a horrible idea, no natter which side does it.
I can’t stress that enough.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea. Now that your party set the precedent, it's a little late for you to start whining about what your party set in motion.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea.

How many did he block?

Now that your party set the precedent,

You think 2015-2016 was the first time a Senate controlled by an opposing party has left some
court seats open at the end of a President's term? LOL!
They just don’t seem to get it.
Then they take their perceived slight, and think “well then we will do this!” And plan to do something incredibly stupid (pack the court.
Despite me saying repeatedly that I would be opposed to anyone doing it, and telling them it’s an absolutely horrible road to go down, they keep responding like bitter little partisans.
Hey clowns, ITS A HORRIBLE IDEA NO MATTER WHO DOES IT!!!
it's a demofk threat and only a demofk threat. stop with the both party shit. The GOP never ever did what the demofks do. never ever. The demofks created the nuclear option in the Senate. Not the republicans. Ending filibustering was the demofks, not the republicans, and now they are threatening this. It is always a threat from the demofks. Alwys
Mitch turned the filibuster from a rarely used tool to a constant 60 vote requirement
That’s how it works when the majority party won’t compromise with the minority party. The filibuster was designed to force compromise rather than one party rule.
Thats what happens when you have minority rule.

The Republicans exist on minority rule in the Senate, House, White House and now the Courts

Democrats are also a minority party, Sport. Your command of the English language is as bad as the government that educated you

Most Americans overwhelmingly vote Democratic

In the Senate, Dems control the big population states of California, NY and Illinois
Republicans counter with Wyoming and the Dakotas and get the same number of Senators

In the House, Republicans used the census of 2010 to Gerrymander représentation well in excess of the votes they received.

Of Course, Trump received 3 million fewer votes than Clinton

That is why Mitch McConnell is so intent on seizing the court system for a generation by packing it with young, unqualified Conservatives
Yeah, ACB is unqualified, huh. What an idiotic post.

WTF is an ACB?
Amy Coney Barrett.
Elections have consequences.

If Trump wins and Republicans retain control of the Senate we can pack the court and Dems won't oppose it?

They will need the House also

If Dems take all three, why should they not use their power?
Because it would be stupid and appear to the centrists to be a open move to grasp political power at any cost. That would cost the Democrats in the next election in 2022.

You think appointing Barrett doesn't look like an open move to grasp political power?

It looks like another HUGE win for president Trump to me! :eusa_dance:

What did Trump do?

McConnell blocked Obama from filling seats and then packed the courts with young Conservatives
Didn't block anything. Just didn't call a vote. His right.

And it will be the Democrat's right to add more members to the court.
That is a horrible idea, no natter which side does it.
I can’t stress that enough.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea. Now that your party set the precedent, it's a little late for you to start whining about what your party set in motion.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea.

How many did he block?

Now that your party set the precedent,

You think 2015-2016 was the first time a Senate controlled by an opposing party has left some
court seats open at the end of a President's term? LOL!
They just don’t seem to get it.
Then they take their perceived slight, and think “well then we will do this!” And plan to do something incredibly stupid (pack the court.
Despite me saying repeatedly that I would be opposed to anyone doing it, and telling them it’s an absolutely horrible road to go down, they keep responding like bitter little partisans.
Hey clowns, ITS A HORRIBLE IDEA NO MATTER WHO DOES IT!!!
it's a demofk threat and only a demofk threat. stop with the both party shit. The GOP never ever did what the demofks do. never ever. The demofks created the nuclear option in the Senate. Not the republicans. Ending filibustering was the demofks, not the republicans, and now they are threatening this. It is always a threat from the demofks. Alwys
Mitch turned the filibuster from a rarely used tool to a constant 60 vote requirement
That’s how it works when the majority party won’t compromise with the minority party. The filibuster was designed to force compromise rather than one party rule.
Thats what happens when you have minority rule.

The Republicans exist on minority rule in the Senate, House, White House and now the Courts

Democrats are also a minority party, Sport. Your command of the English language is as bad as the government that educated you

Republicans are the minority party, Sport. The Senators who voted for ACB represent 13.5 million FEWER voters that the Senators who voted against her. Republicans have been the minority party for years, winning the House with consistently fewer votes than Democrats. Trump lost the popular vote.

The packing of the courts will be undone. There won't be enough Republicans left to stop them after this election.

You get more deranged every day. There is no "packing", even the Dems have dropped that stupid talking point. What is your obsession with the "popular vote"? It means nothing in the United States.

The will of the people does mean something in the U.S. They weren't capable of counting the popular vote, so the electoral college was in the constitution, but it was never meant to override the will of the people. Since 1864, the first year popular vote was recorded, that fluke has only appeared 5 times.
Another totally ignorant idiotic post from the left. You guys are on a roll.

So point out the part you think is wrong dumb ass.
Tell us how many US Presidents have been elected officially by the popular vote. Go ahead.
 
Everything in life has Consequences

Those consequences could be adding judges to the court or ending the filibuster

Another consequence will be an end of cooperation with Republicans
Why not win the Senate and the White House and do it like Republicans did?

It can happen.

Then what about all those new precedents you lot set?

Like the judicial filibuster? No wait, that was you.
Ending the judicial filibuster? Oh, you again.

Why do you deliberately omit stuff?

Who ended the SCOTUS filibuster?

WHO blocked want was normally a pretty routine Presidential right to fill judicial vacancies in order to "save them" for their team (and no, I don't mean voting DOWN applicants).

WHO made up a new rule to prevent a president from filling a vacancy before an election?

and WHO reversed that rule 2 weeks before an election?

Those are MAJOR precedents and don't deny it. You know. If they weren't that made up rule would have held for 2020 instead of creating yet another precedent.

SO why shouldn't the Dems pack the court given YOUR behavior?
It's very simple. Win the Senate and the White House. Duh!

So you'll be fine with it if they win it and do that? There has already been a lot of whining from you guys about the possibility.

Bad ideas are still bad ideas.
You can't name anything they did out of order or against the constitutional process.

Yet, the Rs did something wrong.

You not liking it doesn't make it wrong.

Coyote also can't list a single time Democrats didn't confirm a Democrat scotus pick and waited for an election as she demands the Republicans do
Dems never refused to fill a seat in an election year (10 months away) and then filled a seat days before the election when it favored them
They never had the chance. If the roles were reversed there is no doubt Chucky would to exactly what Mitch is doing.............so grow the fuck up and accept reality for once in your pathetic life.

These idiot Democrats claiming they are pure as the driven snow and just get screwed by the wascally wepublicans is just the lamest crap ever
They are cry babies

Yep. That's all I'm arguing. RW, Coyote being the biggest cry babies. Democrats are fighting, that's fine. Republicans are fighting. But those two are the ones saying it's not FFFAAAAIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRR that Republicans are fighting back
 
Everything in life has Consequences

Those consequences could be adding judges to the court or ending the filibuster

Another consequence will be an end of cooperation with Republicans
Why not win the Senate and the White House and do it like Republicans did?

It can happen.

Then what about all those new precedents you lot set?

Like the judicial filibuster? No wait, that was you.
Ending the judicial filibuster? Oh, you again.
Filibustering administration nominees? Um ... you
Ending filibustering administration nominees? No wait, you again
Changing the rules to get Obamacare though? Um ... you again ... huh
Filibustering SCOTUS picks? No wait, that's you. Only ever done to Rehnquist (chief), Alito and Gorsuch.

Wow, those wascally wepublicans, huh????
"Filibustering SCOTUS picks? No wait, that's you. Only ever done to Rehnquist (chief), Alito and Gorsuch."

Kazzing again? Abe Fortas, 1968.

Fortas wasn't filibustered, there was one cloture vote. Don't know what a filibuster is, huh, little boy?

And it was both parties that voted against cloture.

And one more, he wasn't filibustered as a SCOTUS nomination.

Do you know what the issue with Fortas was? Do you know why he had to resign from the court completely? Same reason. Had nothing to do with party, angry tyke.

Wow, you really don't know what you're talking about
Imbecile...

Fortas became the first sitting associate justice, nominated for chief justice
[...]
Although the committee recommended confirmation, floor consideration sparked a filibuster.

<smh>

No, it wasn't a filibuster, angry little dude. How many cloture votes were there?
LOLOLOL

You're a fucking nut. :cuckoo:

The U.S. Senate says he was filibustered. Go cry to them.

:abgg2q.jpg:
 
Elections have consequences.

If Trump wins and Republicans retain control of the Senate we can pack the court and Dems won't oppose it?

They will need the House also

If Dems take all three, why should they not use their power?
Because it would be stupid and appear to the centrists to be a open move to grasp political power at any cost. That would cost the Democrats in the next election in 2022.

You think appointing Barrett doesn't look like an open move to grasp political power?

It looks like another HUGE win for president Trump to me! :eusa_dance:

What did Trump do?

McConnell blocked Obama from filling seats and then packed the courts with young Conservatives
Didn't block anything. Just didn't call a vote. His right.

And it will be the Democrat's right to add more members to the court.
That is a horrible idea, no natter which side does it.
I can’t stress that enough.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea. Now that your party set the precedent, it's a little late for you to start whining about what your party set in motion.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea.

How many did he block?

Now that your party set the precedent,

You think 2015-2016 was the first time a Senate controlled by an opposing party has left some
court seats open at the end of a President's term? LOL!
They just don’t seem to get it.
Then they take their perceived slight, and think “well then we will do this!” And plan to do something incredibly stupid (pack the court.
Despite me saying repeatedly that I would be opposed to anyone doing it, and telling them it’s an absolutely horrible road to go down, they keep responding like bitter little partisans.
Hey clowns, ITS A HORRIBLE IDEA NO MATTER WHO DOES IT!!!
it's a demofk threat and only a demofk threat. stop with the both party shit. The GOP never ever did what the demofks do. never ever. The demofks created the nuclear option in the Senate. Not the republicans. Ending filibustering was the demofks, not the republicans, and now they are threatening this. It is always a threat from the demofks. Alwys
Mitch turned the filibuster from a rarely used tool to a constant 60 vote requirement
That’s how it works when the majority party won’t compromise with the minority party. The filibuster was designed to force compromise rather than one party rule.
Thats what happens when you have minority rule.

The Republicans exist on minority rule in the Senate, House, White House and now the Courts

Democrats are also a minority party, Sport. Your command of the English language is as bad as the government that educated you

Republicans are the minority party, Sport. The Senators who voted for ACB represent 13.5 million FEWER voters that the Senators who voted against her. Republicans have been the minority party for years, winning the House with consistently fewer votes than Democrats. Trump lost the popular vote.

The packing of the courts will be undone. There won't be enough Republicans left to stop them after this election.

You get more deranged every day. There is no "packing", even the Dems have dropped that stupid talking point. What is your obsession with the "popular vote"? It means nothing in the United States.

The will of the people does mean something in the U.S. They weren't capable of counting the popular vote, so the electoral college was in the constitution, but it was never meant to override the will of the people. Since 1864, the first year popular vote was recorded, that fluke has only appeared 5 times.

Sorry son, we don't elect Presidents by the "popular vote". Stop crying, it just is what it is.

We all know the procedures for a presidential election dumb ass, but The will of the people does mean something in the U.S. It is one of the core tenants of the country.
 
Everything in life has Consequences

Those consequences could be adding judges to the court or ending the filibuster

Another consequence will be an end of cooperation with Republicans
Why not win the Senate and the White House and do it like Republicans did?

It can happen.

Then what about all those new precedents you lot set?

Like the judicial filibuster? No wait, that was you.
Ending the judicial filibuster? Oh, you again.

Why do you deliberately omit stuff?

Who ended the SCOTUS filibuster?

WHO blocked want was normally a pretty routine Presidential right to fill judicial vacancies in order to "save them" for their team (and no, I don't mean voting DOWN applicants).

WHO made up a new rule to prevent a president from filling a vacancy before an election?

and WHO reversed that rule 2 weeks before an election?

Those are MAJOR precedents and don't deny it. You know. If they weren't that made up rule would have held for 2020 instead of creating yet another precedent.

SO why shouldn't the Dems pack the court given YOUR behavior?
It's very simple. Win the Senate and the White House. Duh!

So you'll be fine with it if they win it and do that? There has already been a lot of whining from you guys about the possibility.

Bad ideas are still bad ideas.
You can't name anything they did out of order or against the constitutional process.

Yet, the Rs did something wrong.

You not liking it doesn't make it wrong.

Coyote also can't list a single time Democrats didn't confirm a Democrat scotus pick and waited for an election as she demands the Republicans do
Dems never refused to fill a seat in an election year (10 months away) and then filled a seat days before the election when it favored them
Exactly...Kaz seems to miss that. The Dems didn’t invent and disinvent new rules.

Coyote: "The Dems didn’t invent and disinvent new rules."

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Democrats
- Said no Republican nominations with a Democrat Senate in an election year (Biden)
- Created the judicial filibuster under W
- Created the administration nomination filibuster under W
- Created the SCOTUS filibuster under W
- Were the only party to try to filibuster SCOTUS nominations - Rehnquist (chief), Alito and Gorsuch - The only times it was ever attempted were by Democrats
- Changed the rules to implement Obamacare despite losing their filibuster proof majority because of Scott Brown
- Eliminated the judicial filibuster under O
- Eliminated the administration nomination filibuster under O

Republicans
- Eliminated the SCOTUS filibuster under Trump
"Said no Republican nominations with a Democrat Senate in an election year (Biden)"

That's as far as I got to see you're just kazzing again.

As you yourself showed when you posted Biden's quote, Biden never said that.

I didn't say it was a quote, government educated failure

 
Elections have consequences.

If Trump wins and Republicans retain control of the Senate we can pack the court and Dems won't oppose it?

They will need the House also

If Dems take all three, why should they not use their power?
Because it would be stupid and appear to the centrists to be a open move to grasp political power at any cost. That would cost the Democrats in the next election in 2022.

You think appointing Barrett doesn't look like an open move to grasp political power?

It looks like another HUGE win for president Trump to me! :eusa_dance:

What did Trump do?

McConnell blocked Obama from filling seats and then packed the courts with young Conservatives
Didn't block anything. Just didn't call a vote. His right.

And it will be the Democrat's right to add more members to the court.
That is a horrible idea, no natter which side does it.
I can’t stress that enough.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea. Now that your party set the precedent, it's a little late for you to start whining about what your party set in motion.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea.

How many did he block?

Now that your party set the precedent,

You think 2015-2016 was the first time a Senate controlled by an opposing party has left some
court seats open at the end of a President's term? LOL!
They just don’t seem to get it.
Then they take their perceived slight, and think “well then we will do this!” And plan to do something incredibly stupid (pack the court.
Despite me saying repeatedly that I would be opposed to anyone doing it, and telling them it’s an absolutely horrible road to go down, they keep responding like bitter little partisans.
Hey clowns, ITS A HORRIBLE IDEA NO MATTER WHO DOES IT!!!
it's a demofk threat and only a demofk threat. stop with the both party shit. The GOP never ever did what the demofks do. never ever. The demofks created the nuclear option in the Senate. Not the republicans. Ending filibustering was the demofks, not the republicans, and now they are threatening this. It is always a threat from the demofks. Alwys
Mitch turned the filibuster from a rarely used tool to a constant 60 vote requirement
That’s how it works when the majority party won’t compromise with the minority party. The filibuster was designed to force compromise rather than one party rule.
Thats what happens when you have minority rule.

The Republicans exist on minority rule in the Senate, House, White House and now the Courts

Democrats are also a minority party, Sport. Your command of the English language is as bad as the government that educated you

Republicans are the minority party, Sport. The Senators who voted for ACB represent 13.5 million FEWER voters that the Senators who voted against her. Republicans have been the minority party for years, winning the House with consistently fewer votes than Democrats. Trump lost the popular vote.

The packing of the courts will be undone. There won't be enough Republicans left to stop them after this election.

You get more deranged every day. There is no "packing", even the Dems have dropped that stupid talking point. What is your obsession with the "popular vote"? It means nothing in the United States.

The will of the people does mean something in the U.S. They weren't capable of counting the popular vote, so the electoral college was in the constitution, but it was never meant to override the will of the people. Since 1864, the first year popular vote was recorded, that fluke has only appeared 5 times.

Sorry son, we don't elect Presidents by the "popular vote". Stop crying, it just is what it is.

We all know the procedures for a presidential election dumb ass, but The will of the people does mean something in the U.S. It is one of the core tenants of the country.

Right, and the EV is how we measure the will of the people. What confuses you about that?
 
Everything in life has Consequences

Those consequences could be adding judges to the court or ending the filibuster

Another consequence will be an end of cooperation with Republicans
Why not win the Senate and the White House and do it like Republicans did?

It can happen.

Then what about all those new precedents you lot set?

Like the judicial filibuster? No wait, that was you.
Ending the judicial filibuster? Oh, you again.

Why do you deliberately omit stuff?

Who ended the SCOTUS filibuster?

WHO blocked want was normally a pretty routine Presidential right to fill judicial vacancies in order to "save them" for their team (and no, I don't mean voting DOWN applicants).

WHO made up a new rule to prevent a president from filling a vacancy before an election?

and WHO reversed that rule 2 weeks before an election?

Those are MAJOR precedents and don't deny it. You know. If they weren't that made up rule would have held for 2020 instead of creating yet another precedent.

SO why shouldn't the Dems pack the court given YOUR behavior?
It's very simple. Win the Senate and the White House. Duh!

So you'll be fine with it if they win it and do that? There has already been a lot of whining from you guys about the possibility.

Bad ideas are still bad ideas.
You can't name anything they did out of order or against the constitutional process.

Yet, the Rs did something wrong.

You not liking it doesn't make it wrong.

Coyote also can't list a single time Democrats didn't confirm a Democrat scotus pick and waited for an election as she demands the Republicans do
Dems never refused to fill a seat in an election year (10 months away) and then filled a seat days before the election when it favored them
Exactly...Kaz seems to miss that. The Dems didn’t invent and disinvent new rules.

Coyote: "The Dems didn’t invent and disinvent new rules."

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Democrats
- Said no Republican nominations with a Democrat Senate in an election year (Biden)
- Created the judicial filibuster under W
- Created the administration nomination filibuster under W
- Created the SCOTUS filibuster under W
- Were the only party to try to filibuster SCOTUS nominations - Rehnquist (chief), Alito and Gorsuch - The only times it was ever attempted were by Democrats
- Changed the rules to implement Obamacare despite losing their filibuster proof majority because of Scott Brown
- Eliminated the judicial filibuster under O
- Eliminated the administration nomination filibuster under O

Republicans
- Eliminated the SCOTUS filibuster under Trump
"Said no Republican nominations with a Democrat Senate in an election year (Biden)"

That's as far as I got to see you're just kazzing again.

As you yourself showed when you posted Biden's quote, Biden never said that.

I didn't say it was a quote, government educated failure

And you must've been home schooled as I didn't say that was a quote. I said the Biden quote you posted reveals he never said there would be "no Republican nominations with a Democrat Senate in an election year." Sadly, you're a pathological kazzer, so you're kazzing again.
 
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