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Elections have consequences.

If Trump wins and Republicans retain control of the Senate we can pack the court and Dems won't oppose it?

They will need the House also

If Dems take all three, why should they not use their power?
Because it would be stupid and appear to the centrists to be a open move to grasp political power at any cost. That would cost the Democrats in the next election in 2022.

You think appointing Barrett doesn't look like an open move to grasp political power?

It looks like another HUGE win for president Trump to me! :eusa_dance:

What did Trump do?

McConnell blocked Obama from filling seats and then packed the courts with young Conservatives
Didn't block anything. Just didn't call a vote. His right.

And it will be the Democrat's right to add more members to the court.
That is a horrible idea, no natter which side does it.
I can’t stress that enough.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea. Now that your party set the precedent, it's a little late for you to start whining about what your party set in motion.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea.

How many did he block?

Now that your party set the precedent,

You think 2015-2016 was the first time a Senate controlled by an opposing party has left some
court seats open at the end of a President's term? LOL!
They just don’t seem to get it.
Then they take their perceived slight, and think “well then we will do this!” And plan to do something incredibly stupid (pack the court.
Despite me saying repeatedly that I would be opposed to anyone doing it, and telling them it’s an absolutely horrible road to go down, they keep responding like bitter little partisans.
Hey clowns, ITS A HORRIBLE IDEA NO MATTER WHO DOES IT!!!
it's a demofk threat and only a demofk threat. stop with the both party shit. The GOP never ever did what the demofks do. never ever. The demofks created the nuclear option in the Senate. Not the republicans. Ending filibustering was the demofks, not the republicans, and now they are threatening this. It is always a threat from the demofks. Alwys
Mitch turned the filibuster from a rarely used tool to a constant 60 vote requirement
That’s how it works when the majority party won’t compromise with the minority party. The filibuster was designed to force compromise rather than one party rule.
Thats what happens when you have minority rule.

The Republicans exist on minority rule in the Senate, House, White House and now the Courts

Democrats are also a minority party, Sport. Your command of the English language is as bad as the government that educated you

Most Americans overwhelmingly vote Democratic

In the Senate, Dems control the big population states of California, NY and Illinois
Republicans counter with Wyoming and the Dakotas and get the same number of Senators

In the House, Republicans used the census of 2010 to Gerrymander représentation well in excess of the votes they received.

Of Course, Trump received 3 million fewer votes than Clinton

That is why Mitch McConnell is so intent on seizing the court system for a generation by packing it with young, unqualified Conservatives

More of your lies. Hillary didn't get a majority. Most Democrats don't. You're another government educated failure who literally doesn't know what the word "majority" means.

The country is split, independents are a large percent. Few candidates get a majority
 
Trump has appointed 3 Supreme Court Justices.

Trump lost the popular vote in 2016 and only won 4 states by less than 1%.
Trump's party lost badly on 2018.
Trump is on the verse of losing the 2020 election by a record margin.

Trump never had anything close to a mandate for governing.

Given the points above, and with respect for Democracy, the validity of the Supreme court is in question.

Once the Dems are in power, packing the court is absolutely justified!
Trump had the only "mandate" he needed, the electoral votes and a sympathetic Senate. The validity of the Court is no less now than it was 6 years ago.
 
Elections have consequences.

If Trump wins and Republicans retain control of the Senate we can pack the court and Dems won't oppose it?

They will need the House also

If Dems take all three, why should they not use their power?
Because it would be stupid and appear to the centrists to be a open move to grasp political power at any cost. That would cost the Democrats in the next election in 2022.

You think appointing Barrett doesn't look like an open move to grasp political power?

It looks like another HUGE win for president Trump to me! :eusa_dance:

What did Trump do?

McConnell blocked Obama from filling seats and then packed the courts with young Conservatives
Didn't block anything. Just didn't call a vote. His right.

And it will be the Democrat's right to add more members to the court.
That is a horrible idea, no natter which side does it.
I can’t stress that enough.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea. Now that your party set the precedent, it's a little late for you to start whining about what your party set in motion.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea.

How many did he block?

Now that your party set the precedent,

You think 2015-2016 was the first time a Senate controlled by an opposing party has left some
court seats open at the end of a President's term? LOL!
They just don’t seem to get it.
Then they take their perceived slight, and think “well then we will do this!” And plan to do something incredibly stupid (pack the court.
Despite me saying repeatedly that I would be opposed to anyone doing it, and telling them it’s an absolutely horrible road to go down, they keep responding like bitter little partisans.
Hey clowns, ITS A HORRIBLE IDEA NO MATTER WHO DOES IT!!!
it's a demofk threat and only a demofk threat. stop with the both party shit. The GOP never ever did what the demofks do. never ever. The demofks created the nuclear option in the Senate. Not the republicans. Ending filibustering was the demofks, not the republicans, and now they are threatening this. It is always a threat from the demofks. Alwys
Mitch turned the filibuster from a rarely used tool to a constant 60 vote requirement
That’s how it works when the majority party won’t compromise with the minority party. The filibuster was designed to force compromise rather than one party rule.
Thats what happens when you have minority rule.

The Republicans exist on minority rule in the Senate, House, White House and now the Courts

Democrats are also a minority party, Sport. Your command of the English language is as bad as the government that educated you

Most Americans overwhelmingly vote Democratic

In the Senate, Dems control the big population states of California, NY and Illinois
Republicans counter with Wyoming and the Dakotas and get the same number of Senators

In the House, Republicans used the census of 2010 to Gerrymander représentation well in excess of the votes they received.

Of Course, Trump received 3 million fewer votes than Clinton

That is why Mitch McConnell is so intent on seizing the court system for a generation by packing it with young, unqualified Conservatives
Yeah, ACB is unqualified, huh. What an idiotic post.

How long has she held a Federal Judgeship?
Three years


There are many judges more distinguished and qualified. The only reason she was selected was because she is young and can serve a long time

LOL, an Obama voter saying that. That's more qualification than he had to be President, LOL. And it showed, he was terrible. Worst recession recovery in recorded history through flaming incompetence.

Suddenly experience is a standard for you, LOL
 
Trump has appointed 3 Supreme Court Justices.

Trump lost the popular vote in 2016 and only won 4 states by less than 1%.
Trump's party lost badly on 2018.
Trump is on the verse of losing the 2020 election by a record margin.

Trump never had anything close to a mandate for governing.

Given the points above, and with respect for Democracy, the validity of the Supreme court is in question.

Once the Dems are in power, packing the court is absolutely justified!
Trump had the only "mandate" he needed, the electoral votes and a sympathetic Senate. The validity of the Court is no less now than it was 6 years ago.

Hillary also lost the popular vote. A majority of Americans voted "no" to Hillary.

And you're another vacuous leftist who thinks packing the court is permanent. Actually when Republicans get control back, they will pack the court back. Democrats, unable to think things through ...
 
Elections have consequences.

If Trump wins and Republicans retain control of the Senate we can pack the court and Dems won't oppose it?

They will need the House also

If Dems take all three, why should they not use their power?
Because it would be stupid and appear to the centrists to be a open move to grasp political power at any cost. That would cost the Democrats in the next election in 2022.

You think appointing Barrett doesn't look like an open move to grasp political power?

It looks like another HUGE win for president Trump to me! :eusa_dance:

What did Trump do?

McConnell blocked Obama from filling seats and then packed the courts with young Conservatives
Didn't block anything. Just didn't call a vote. His right.

And it will be the Democrat's right to add more members to the court.
That is a horrible idea, no natter which side does it.
I can’t stress that enough.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea. Now that your party set the precedent, it's a little late for you to start whining about what your party set in motion.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea.

How many did he block?

Now that your party set the precedent,

You think 2015-2016 was the first time a Senate controlled by an opposing party has left some
court seats open at the end of a President's term? LOL!
They just don’t seem to get it.
Then they take their perceived slight, and think “well then we will do this!” And plan to do something incredibly stupid (pack the court.
Despite me saying repeatedly that I would be opposed to anyone doing it, and telling them it’s an absolutely horrible road to go down, they keep responding like bitter little partisans.
Hey clowns, ITS A HORRIBLE IDEA NO MATTER WHO DOES IT!!!
it's a demofk threat and only a demofk threat. stop with the both party shit. The GOP never ever did what the demofks do. never ever. The demofks created the nuclear option in the Senate. Not the republicans. Ending filibustering was the demofks, not the republicans, and now they are threatening this. It is always a threat from the demofks. Alwys
Mitch turned the filibuster from a rarely used tool to a constant 60 vote requirement
That’s how it works when the majority party won’t compromise with the minority party. The filibuster was designed to force compromise rather than one party rule.
The DNC played dirty when they had power .........they threw down the gauntlet and declared War.................and now they are pissed when we picked up the gauntlet and smacked you in the face with it.

Oh well.



The gauntlet was thrown down, and war declared in 94 by Newt Gingrich, Dick Army, and Tom Delay, when they took orders from the Heritage Foundation and launched the Contract On America. The rancor and refusal to cooperate has only grown since then.

Your side has no business saying you would be civil and negotiate anything for decades now.

Your Tribe is burning Philly to the ground now......Your tribe is running over police officers there with a dang Pick up Truck.

Obama said get in the back of the bus........then FISA .......IRS........Up yours.........Your side wanted a dang War.......at least we aren't burning shit down when we don't get our way..........Fuck off


I or my political beliefs have no responsibility for anarchists who also oppose Trump. If you are concerned about violent fringe groups, why does that fat orange fool tell the violent alt-right to stand by? They were proud of Trump's shout out, and took it as support.
 
Everything in life has Consequences

Those consequences could be adding judges to the court or ending the filibuster

Another consequence will be an end of cooperation with Republicans
Why not win the Senate and the White House and do it like Republicans did?

It can happen.

Then what about all those new precedents you lot set?

Like the judicial filibuster? No wait, that was you.
Ending the judicial filibuster? Oh, you again.

Why do you deliberately omit stuff?

Who ended the SCOTUS filibuster?

WHO blocked want was normally a pretty routine Presidential right to fill judicial vacancies in order to "save them" for their team (and no, I don't mean voting DOWN applicants).

WHO made up a new rule to prevent a president from filling a vacancy before an election?

and WHO reversed that rule 2 weeks before an election?

Those are MAJOR precedents and don't deny it. You know. If they weren't that made up rule would have held for 2020 instead of creating yet another precedent.

SO why shouldn't the Dems pack the court given YOUR behavior?
It's very simple. Win the Senate and the White House. Duh!

So you'll be fine with it if they win it and do that? There has already been a lot of whining from you guys about the possibility.

Bad ideas are still bad ideas.
You can't name anything they did out of order or against the constitutional process.

Yet, the Rs did something wrong.

You not liking it doesn't make it wrong.

Coyote also can't list a single time Democrats didn't confirm a Democrat scotus pick and waited for an election as she demands the Republicans do
Dems never refused to fill a seat in an election year (10 months away) and then filled a seat days before the election when it favored them
They never had the chance. If the roles were reversed there is no doubt Chucky would to exactly what Mitch is doing.............so grow the fuck up and accept reality for once in your pathetic life.

OK

And if the roles were reversed, Mitch would not hesitate to pack the court

Agree?
Nope. He didn't when Reps controlled Congress and the White House, Stupid.
 
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Elections have consequences.

If Trump wins and Republicans retain control of the Senate we can pack the court and Dems won't oppose it?

They will need the House also

If Dems take all three, why should they not use their power?
Because it would be stupid and appear to the centrists to be a open move to grasp political power at any cost. That would cost the Democrats in the next election in 2022.

You think appointing Barrett doesn't look like an open move to grasp political power?

It looks like another HUGE win for president Trump to me! :eusa_dance:

What did Trump do?

McConnell blocked Obama from filling seats and then packed the courts with young Conservatives
Didn't block anything. Just didn't call a vote. His right.

And it will be the Democrat's right to add more members to the court.
That is a horrible idea, no natter which side does it.
I can’t stress that enough.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea. Now that your party set the precedent, it's a little late for you to start whining about what your party set in motion.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea.

How many did he block?

Now that your party set the precedent,

You think 2015-2016 was the first time a Senate controlled by an opposing party has left some
court seats open at the end of a President's term? LOL!
They just don’t seem to get it.
Then they take their perceived slight, and think “well then we will do this!” And plan to do something incredibly stupid (pack the court.
Despite me saying repeatedly that I would be opposed to anyone doing it, and telling them it’s an absolutely horrible road to go down, they keep responding like bitter little partisans.
Hey clowns, ITS A HORRIBLE IDEA NO MATTER WHO DOES IT!!!
it's a demofk threat and only a demofk threat. stop with the both party shit. The GOP never ever did what the demofks do. never ever. The demofks created the nuclear option in the Senate. Not the republicans. Ending filibustering was the demofks, not the republicans, and now they are threatening this. It is always a threat from the demofks. Alwys
Mitch turned the filibuster from a rarely used tool to a constant 60 vote requirement
That’s how it works when the majority party won’t compromise with the minority party. The filibuster was designed to force compromise rather than one party rule.
The DNC played dirty when they had power .........they threw down the gauntlet and declared War.................and now they are pissed when we picked up the gauntlet and smacked you in the face with it.

Oh well.



The gauntlet was thrown down, and war declared in 94 by Newt Gingrich, Dick Army, and Tom Delay, when they took orders from the Heritage Foundation and launched the Contract On America. The rancor and refusal to cooperate has only grown since then.

Your side has no business saying you would be civil and negotiate anything for decades now.

Your Tribe is burning Philly to the ground now......Your tribe is running over police officers there with a dang Pick up Truck.

Obama said get in the back of the bus........then FISA .......IRS........Up yours.........Your side wanted a dang War.......at least we aren't burning shit down when we don't get our way..........Fuck off


I or my political beliefs have no responsibility for anarchists who also oppose Trump. If you are concerned about violent fringe groups, why does that fat orange fool tell the violent alt-right to stand by? They were proud of Trump's shout out, and took it as support.


You need to stop listening to the voices in your head
 
Everything in life has Consequences

Those consequences could be adding judges to the court or ending the filibuster

Another consequence will be an end of cooperation with Republicans
Why not win the Senate and the White House and do it like Republicans did?

It can happen.

Then what about all those new precedents you lot set?

Like the judicial filibuster? No wait, that was you.
Ending the judicial filibuster? Oh, you again.

Why do you deliberately omit stuff?

Who ended the SCOTUS filibuster?

WHO blocked want was normally a pretty routine Presidential right to fill judicial vacancies in order to "save them" for their team (and no, I don't mean voting DOWN applicants).

WHO made up a new rule to prevent a president from filling a vacancy before an election?

and WHO reversed that rule 2 weeks before an election?

Those are MAJOR precedents and don't deny it. You know. If they weren't that made up rule would have held for 2020 instead of creating yet another precedent.

SO why shouldn't the Dems pack the court given YOUR behavior?
It's very simple. Win the Senate and the White House. Duh!

So you'll be fine with it if they win it and do that? There has already been a lot of whining from you guys about the possibility.

Bad ideas are still bad ideas.
You can't name anything they did out of order or against the constitutional process.

Yet, the Rs did something wrong.

You not liking it doesn't make it wrong.

Coyote also can't list a single time Democrats didn't confirm a Democrat scotus pick and waited for an election as she demands the Republicans do
Dems never refused to fill a seat in an election year (10 months away) and then filled a seat days before the election when it favored them
Exactly...Kaz seems to miss that. The Dems didn’t invent and disinvent new rules.
Bwahahahaha

And since when do these mythical rules override constitution?
DImwingers like Coyote hate the Constitution.
 
Elections have consequences.

If Trump wins and Republicans retain control of the Senate we can pack the court and Dems won't oppose it?

They will need the House also

If Dems take all three, why should they not use their power?
Because it would be stupid and appear to the centrists to be a open move to grasp political power at any cost. That would cost the Democrats in the next election in 2022.

You think appointing Barrett doesn't look like an open move to grasp political power?

It looks like another HUGE win for president Trump to me! :eusa_dance:

What did Trump do?

McConnell blocked Obama from filling seats and then packed the courts with young Conservatives
Didn't block anything. Just didn't call a vote. His right.

And it will be the Democrat's right to add more members to the court.
That is a horrible idea, no natter which side does it.
I can’t stress that enough.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea. Now that your party set the precedent, it's a little late for you to start whining about what your party set in motion.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea.

How many did he block?

Now that your party set the precedent,

You think 2015-2016 was the first time a Senate controlled by an opposing party has left some
court seats open at the end of a President's term? LOL!
They just don’t seem to get it.
Then they take their perceived slight, and think “well then we will do this!” And plan to do something incredibly stupid (pack the court.
Despite me saying repeatedly that I would be opposed to anyone doing it, and telling them it’s an absolutely horrible road to go down, they keep responding like bitter little partisans.
Hey clowns, ITS A HORRIBLE IDEA NO MATTER WHO DOES IT!!!
it's a demofk threat and only a demofk threat. stop with the both party shit. The GOP never ever did what the demofks do. never ever. The demofks created the nuclear option in the Senate. Not the republicans. Ending filibustering was the demofks, not the republicans, and now they are threatening this. It is always a threat from the demofks. Alwys
Mitch turned the filibuster from a rarely used tool to a constant 60 vote requirement
That’s how it works when the majority party won’t compromise with the minority party. The filibuster was designed to force compromise rather than one party rule.
Thats what happens when you have minority rule.

The Republicans exist on minority rule in the Senate, House, White House and now the Courts

Democrats are also a minority party, Sport. Your command of the English language is as bad as the government that educated you

Most Americans overwhelmingly vote Democratic

In the Senate, Dems control the big population states of California, NY and Illinois
Republicans counter with Wyoming and the Dakotas and get the same number of Senators

In the House, Republicans used the census of 2010 to Gerrymander représentation well in excess of the votes they received.

Of Course, Trump received 3 million fewer votes than Clinton

That is why Mitch McConnell is so intent on seizing the court system for a generation by packing it with young, unqualified Conservatives
Yeah, ACB is unqualified, huh. What an idiotic post.

How long has she held a Federal Judgeship?
Three years


There are many judges more distinguished and qualified. The only reason she was selected was because she is young and can serve a long time
Yep, she's gonna serve a long long long time. Pretty cool, huh. Lol.
 
Everything in life has Consequences

Those consequences could be adding judges to the court or ending the filibuster

Another consequence will be an end of cooperation with Republicans
Why not win the Senate and the White House and do it like Republicans did?

It can happen.

Then what about all those new precedents you lot set?

Like the judicial filibuster? No wait, that was you.
Ending the judicial filibuster? Oh, you again.

Why do you deliberately omit stuff?

Who ended the SCOTUS filibuster?

WHO blocked want was normally a pretty routine Presidential right to fill judicial vacancies in order to "save them" for their team (and no, I don't mean voting DOWN applicants).

WHO made up a new rule to prevent a president from filling a vacancy before an election?

and WHO reversed that rule 2 weeks before an election?

Those are MAJOR precedents and don't deny it. You know. If they weren't that made up rule would have held for 2020 instead of creating yet another precedent.

SO why shouldn't the Dems pack the court given YOUR behavior?
There is no rule about waiting.

If there is, show me. Show me where the constitutional rule is that was ignored.
She keeps bleating about rule changes, but can't show what rules were changed.

Weird.

I can help with the rules that were changed.

Democrats
- Said no Republican nominations with a Democrat Senate in an election year (Biden)
- Created the judicial filibuster under W
- Created the administration nomination filibuster under W
- Created the SCOTUS filibuster under W
- Were the only party to try to filibuster SCOTUS nominations - Rehnquist (chief), Alito and Gorsuch - The only times it was ever attempted were by Democrats
- Changed the rules to implement Obamacare despite losing their filibuster proof majority because of Scott Brown
- Eliminated the judicial filibuster under O
- Eliminated the administration nomination filibuster under O
- Eliminated the SCOTUS filibuster under O

Republicans
- Eliminated the SCOTUS filibuster under Trump

Coyote: Oh My God! We do NOTHING but follow the rules, we are completely innocent! And what do we get for it? The Republicans SCREW us! Look at that list! Republicans ended the SCOTUS filibuster! You didn't mention that, kaz!

Actually I did ...
OUCH!

That's gonna leave a mark. :iyfyus.jpg:
 
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Elections have consequences.

If Trump wins and Republicans retain control of the Senate we can pack the court and Dems won't oppose it?

They will need the House also

If Dems take all three, why should they not use their power?
Because it would be stupid and appear to the centrists to be a open move to grasp political power at any cost. That would cost the Democrats in the next election in 2022.

You think appointing Barrett doesn't look like an open move to grasp political power?

It looks like another HUGE win for president Trump to me! :eusa_dance:

What did Trump do?

McConnell blocked Obama from filling seats and then packed the courts with young Conservatives
Didn't block anything. Just didn't call a vote. His right.

And it will be the Democrat's right to add more members to the court.
That is a horrible idea, no natter which side does it.
I can’t stress that enough.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea. Now that your party set the precedent, it's a little late for you to start whining about what your party set in motion.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea.

How many did he block?

Now that your party set the precedent,

You think 2015-2016 was the first time a Senate controlled by an opposing party has left some
court seats open at the end of a President's term? LOL!
They just don’t seem to get it.
Then they take their perceived slight, and think “well then we will do this!” And plan to do something incredibly stupid (pack the court.
Despite me saying repeatedly that I would be opposed to anyone doing it, and telling them it’s an absolutely horrible road to go down, they keep responding like bitter little partisans.
Hey clowns, ITS A HORRIBLE IDEA NO MATTER WHO DOES IT!!!
it's a demofk threat and only a demofk threat. stop with the both party shit. The GOP never ever did what the demofks do. never ever. The demofks created the nuclear option in the Senate. Not the republicans. Ending filibustering was the demofks, not the republicans, and now they are threatening this. It is always a threat from the demofks. Alwys
Mitch turned the filibuster from a rarely used tool to a constant 60 vote requirement
That’s how it works when the majority party won’t compromise with the minority party. The filibuster was designed to force compromise rather than one party rule.
Thats what happens when you have minority rule.

The Republicans exist on minority rule in the Senate, House, White House and now the Courts

Democrats are also a minority party, Sport. Your command of the English language is as bad as the government that educated you

Republicans are the minority party, Sport. The Senators who voted for ACB represent 13.5 million FEWER voters that the Senators who voted against her. Republicans have been the minority party for years, winning the House with consistently fewer votes than Democrats. Trump lost the popular vote.

The packing of the courts will be undone. There won't be enough Republicans left to stop them after this election.

You get more deranged every day. There is no "packing", even the Dems have dropped that stupid talking point. What is your obsession with the "popular vote"? It means nothing in the United States.

The will of the people does mean something in the U.S. They weren't capable of counting the popular vote, so the electoral college was in the constitution, but it was never meant to override the will of the people. Since 1864, the first year popular vote was recorded, that fluke has only appeared 5 times.
 
Everything in life has Consequences

Those consequences could be adding judges to the court or ending the filibuster

Another consequence will be an end of cooperation with Republicans


What cooperation commie? It has to start before it can end.

.
Democrats have always cooperated with Republicans, at least in their own view. Unfortunately, their view of cooperation is that Republicans give fifty percent while Democrats take fifty percent.

Democrats cooperated with George Bush
Republicans refused to cooperate with Obama and did not support a single piece of legislation

You dumbasses had a super majority in the first two years, and you squandered it with a do nothing President that was happy to tell us to get in the back of the bus....now you don’t like it...tough shit.
^^^ another idiot.

G'head, see if you could do what other rightards could not... quote Obama telling you to get in back of the bus...
LOL

So did you not bother to read your own source or did you not understand it? Where do you see anything about a bus in there...?

"And suddenly, as we’re about to get in the car, we feel this tap on our shoulder, and we look back, and who is it? It’s the Republicans. (Laughter.) And they say, “Excuse me, we’d like the keys back.” (Laughter.)
And we got to tell them, “I’m sorry, you can’t have the keys back. You don’t know how to drive.” (Applause.) You don’t know how to drive. If you want, you can ride with us, but you’ve got to ride in the backseat. (Laughter and applause.) We’re putting middle-class families in the front seat where they belong. (Applause.)
You ever notice when you want to go forward in your car, what do you do? You put it in “D.” If you want to go backwards, you put it in “R.” I don’t want to go backwards. Let’s go forward. (Applause.) Let’s go forward. I want to go forward."

... now the forum sees why Toddsterpatriot was too cowardly to quote Obama or to man up and just admit he was wrong. :mm:

Clearly, Obama was talking about the backseat of a car, not the back of a bus.

Which also leaves one wondering why eagle1462010 would thank your post when you were so glaringly wrong?

Car, bus, tomato, the sentiment is the same.
No, the sentiment is entirely different. "Back of the bus" refers to segregation; which is why black conservatives, making the same idiotic mistake you made, attacked Obama for saying Republicans would have to ride in the back of the bus, when he didn't.

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I see like Toddsterpatriot, you're just not man enough to admit you’re wrong.

Oh, back of the car.......how'd that work out for Obama?
Worked out pretty good. Obama was re-elected and by the time he left office, the economy was booming with a record setting 76 consecutive months of job growth and 83 months in the private sector; and a record high stock market.

12million more on food stamps, Anemic GDP, lowest first time home ownership in history, small business shuttered, manufacturing dead, etc...what a record.
LOL

You're fucking deranged. :cuckoo:

GDP:
Bush ...... +1.8%
Obama ... +1.9%
Trump ..... -1.0%

Impeached Trump is the only president to not have a year of real GDP exceed 3%.

Unemployment:
Bush ...... +3.6 points
Obama .... -3.1 points
Trump .... +3.2 points

Manufacturing:
Bush ...... -4,543,000
Obama ..... -192,000
Trump ...... -164,000

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Elections have consequences.

If Trump wins and Republicans retain control of the Senate we can pack the court and Dems won't oppose it?

They will need the House also

If Dems take all three, why should they not use their power?
Because it would be stupid and appear to the centrists to be a open move to grasp political power at any cost. That would cost the Democrats in the next election in 2022.

You think appointing Barrett doesn't look like an open move to grasp political power?

It looks like another HUGE win for president Trump to me! :eusa_dance:

What did Trump do?

McConnell blocked Obama from filling seats and then packed the courts with young Conservatives
Didn't block anything. Just didn't call a vote. His right.

And it will be the Democrat's right to add more members to the court.
That is a horrible idea, no natter which side does it.
I can’t stress that enough.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea. Now that your party set the precedent, it's a little late for you to start whining about what your party set in motion.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea.

How many did he block?

Now that your party set the precedent,

You think 2015-2016 was the first time a Senate controlled by an opposing party has left some
court seats open at the end of a President's term? LOL!
They just don’t seem to get it.
Then they take their perceived slight, and think “well then we will do this!” And plan to do something incredibly stupid (pack the court.
Despite me saying repeatedly that I would be opposed to anyone doing it, and telling them it’s an absolutely horrible road to go down, they keep responding like bitter little partisans.
Hey clowns, ITS A HORRIBLE IDEA NO MATTER WHO DOES IT!!!
it's a demofk threat and only a demofk threat. stop with the both party shit. The GOP never ever did what the demofks do. never ever. The demofks created the nuclear option in the Senate. Not the republicans. Ending filibustering was the demofks, not the republicans, and now they are threatening this. It is always a threat from the demofks. Alwys
Mitch turned the filibuster from a rarely used tool to a constant 60 vote requirement
That’s how it works when the majority party won’t compromise with the minority party. The filibuster was designed to force compromise rather than one party rule.
Thats what happens when you have minority rule.

The Republicans exist on minority rule in the Senate, House, White House and now the Courts

Democrats are also a minority party, Sport. Your command of the English language is as bad as the government that educated you

Republicans are the minority party, Sport. The Senators who voted for ACB represent 13.5 million FEWER voters that the Senators who voted against her. Republicans have been the minority party for years, winning the House with consistently fewer votes than Democrats. Trump lost the popular vote.

The packing of the courts will be undone. There won't be enough Republicans left to stop them after this election.

You get more deranged every day. There is no "packing", even the Dems have dropped that stupid talking point. What is your obsession with the "popular vote"? It means nothing in the United States.

The will of the people does mean something in the U.S. They weren't capable of counting the popular vote, so the electoral college was in the constitution, but it was never meant to override the will of the people. Since 1864, the first year popular vote was recorded, that fluke has only appeared 5 times.
Another totally ignorant idiotic post from the left. You guys are on a roll.
 
Elections have consequences.

If Trump wins and Republicans retain control of the Senate we can pack the court and Dems won't oppose it?

They will need the House also

If Dems take all three, why should they not use their power?
Because it would be stupid and appear to the centrists to be a open move to grasp political power at any cost. That would cost the Democrats in the next election in 2022.

You think appointing Barrett doesn't look like an open move to grasp political power?

It looks like another HUGE win for president Trump to me! :eusa_dance:

What did Trump do?

McConnell blocked Obama from filling seats and then packed the courts with young Conservatives
Didn't block anything. Just didn't call a vote. His right.

And it will be the Democrat's right to add more members to the court.
That is a horrible idea, no natter which side does it.
I can’t stress that enough.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea. Now that your party set the precedent, it's a little late for you to start whining about what your party set in motion.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea.

How many did he block?

Now that your party set the precedent,

You think 2015-2016 was the first time a Senate controlled by an opposing party has left some
court seats open at the end of a President's term? LOL!
They just don’t seem to get it.
Then they take their perceived slight, and think “well then we will do this!” And plan to do something incredibly stupid (pack the court.
Despite me saying repeatedly that I would be opposed to anyone doing it, and telling them it’s an absolutely horrible road to go down, they keep responding like bitter little partisans.
Hey clowns, ITS A HORRIBLE IDEA NO MATTER WHO DOES IT!!!
it's a demofk threat and only a demofk threat. stop with the both party shit. The GOP never ever did what the demofks do. never ever. The demofks created the nuclear option in the Senate. Not the republicans. Ending filibustering was the demofks, not the republicans, and now they are threatening this. It is always a threat from the demofks. Alwys
Mitch turned the filibuster from a rarely used tool to a constant 60 vote requirement
That’s how it works when the majority party won’t compromise with the minority party. The filibuster was designed to force compromise rather than one party rule.
Thats what happens when you have minority rule.

The Republicans exist on minority rule in the Senate, House, White House and now the Courts

Democrats are also a minority party, Sport. Your command of the English language is as bad as the government that educated you

Republicans are the minority party, Sport. The Senators who voted for ACB represent 13.5 million FEWER voters that the Senators who voted against her. Republicans have been the minority party for years, winning the House with consistently fewer votes than Democrats. Trump lost the popular vote.

The packing of the courts will be undone. There won't be enough Republicans left to stop them after this election.
Once again you demonstrate your colossal ignorance of our system of govt. Republicans are in the MAJORITY in the Senate, Stupid.

And there has been NO PACKING of the courts you raving lunatic. Vacancies have been filled, Fuckwit.
 
Elections have consequences.

If Trump wins and Republicans retain control of the Senate we can pack the court and Dems won't oppose it?

They will need the House also

If Dems take all three, why should they not use their power?
Because it would be stupid and appear to the centrists to be a open move to grasp political power at any cost. That would cost the Democrats in the next election in 2022.

You think appointing Barrett doesn't look like an open move to grasp political power?

It looks like another HUGE win for president Trump to me! :eusa_dance:

What did Trump do?

McConnell blocked Obama from filling seats and then packed the courts with young Conservatives
Didn't block anything. Just didn't call a vote. His right.

And it will be the Democrat's right to add more members to the court.
That is a horrible idea, no natter which side does it.
I can’t stress that enough.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea. Now that your party set the precedent, it's a little late for you to start whining about what your party set in motion.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea.

How many did he block?

Now that your party set the precedent,

You think 2015-2016 was the first time a Senate controlled by an opposing party has left some
court seats open at the end of a President's term? LOL!
They just don’t seem to get it.
Then they take their perceived slight, and think “well then we will do this!” And plan to do something incredibly stupid (pack the court.
Despite me saying repeatedly that I would be opposed to anyone doing it, and telling them it’s an absolutely horrible road to go down, they keep responding like bitter little partisans.
Hey clowns, ITS A HORRIBLE IDEA NO MATTER WHO DOES IT!!!
it's a demofk threat and only a demofk threat. stop with the both party shit. The GOP never ever did what the demofks do. never ever. The demofks created the nuclear option in the Senate. Not the republicans. Ending filibustering was the demofks, not the republicans, and now they are threatening this. It is always a threat from the demofks. Alwys
Mitch turned the filibuster from a rarely used tool to a constant 60 vote requirement
That’s how it works when the majority party won’t compromise with the minority party. The filibuster was designed to force compromise rather than one party rule.
Thats what happens when you have minority rule.

The Republicans exist on minority rule in the Senate, House, White House and now the Courts

Democrats are also a minority party, Sport. Your command of the English language is as bad as the government that educated you

Most Americans overwhelmingly vote Democratic

In the Senate, Dems control the big population states of California, NY and Illinois
Republicans counter with Wyoming and the Dakotas and get the same number of Senators

In the House, Republicans used the census of 2010 to Gerrymander représentation well in excess of the votes they received.

Of Course, Trump received 3 million fewer votes than Clinton

That is why Mitch McConnell is so intent on seizing the court system for a generation by packing it with young, unqualified Conservatives
Yeah, ACB is unqualified, huh. What an idiotic post.

WTF is an ACB?
 
Elections have consequences.

If Trump wins and Republicans retain control of the Senate we can pack the court and Dems won't oppose it?

They will need the House also

If Dems take all three, why should they not use their power?
Because it would be stupid and appear to the centrists to be a open move to grasp political power at any cost. That would cost the Democrats in the next election in 2022.

You think appointing Barrett doesn't look like an open move to grasp political power?

It looks like another HUGE win for president Trump to me! :eusa_dance:

What did Trump do?

McConnell blocked Obama from filling seats and then packed the courts with young Conservatives
Didn't block anything. Just didn't call a vote. His right.

And it will be the Democrat's right to add more members to the court.
That is a horrible idea, no natter which side does it.
I can’t stress that enough.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea. Now that your party set the precedent, it's a little late for you to start whining about what your party set in motion.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea.

How many did he block?

Now that your party set the precedent,

You think 2015-2016 was the first time a Senate controlled by an opposing party has left some
court seats open at the end of a President's term? LOL!
They just don’t seem to get it.
Then they take their perceived slight, and think “well then we will do this!” And plan to do something incredibly stupid (pack the court.
Despite me saying repeatedly that I would be opposed to anyone doing it, and telling them it’s an absolutely horrible road to go down, they keep responding like bitter little partisans.
Hey clowns, ITS A HORRIBLE IDEA NO MATTER WHO DOES IT!!!
it's a demofk threat and only a demofk threat. stop with the both party shit. The GOP never ever did what the demofks do. never ever. The demofks created the nuclear option in the Senate. Not the republicans. Ending filibustering was the demofks, not the republicans, and now they are threatening this. It is always a threat from the demofks. Alwys
Mitch turned the filibuster from a rarely used tool to a constant 60 vote requirement
That’s how it works when the majority party won’t compromise with the minority party. The filibuster was designed to force compromise rather than one party rule.
Thats what happens when you have minority rule.

The Republicans exist on minority rule in the Senate, House, White House and now the Courts

Democrats are also a minority party, Sport. Your command of the English language is as bad as the government that educated you

Republicans are the minority party, Sport. The Senators who voted for ACB represent 13.5 million FEWER voters that the Senators who voted against her. Republicans have been the minority party for years, winning the House with consistently fewer votes than Democrats. Trump lost the popular vote.

The packing of the courts will be undone. There won't be enough Republicans left to stop them after this election.

You get more deranged every day. There is no "packing", even the Dems have dropped that stupid talking point. What is your obsession with the "popular vote"? It means nothing in the United States.

The will of the people does mean something in the U.S. They weren't capable of counting the popular vote, so the electoral college was in the constitution, but it was never meant to override the will of the people. Since 1864, the first year popular vote was recorded, that fluke has only appeared 5 times.

Sorry son, we don't elect Presidents by the "popular vote". Stop crying, it just is what it is.
 
Elections have consequences.

If Trump wins and Republicans retain control of the Senate we can pack the court and Dems won't oppose it?

They will need the House also

If Dems take all three, why should they not use their power?
Because it would be stupid and appear to the centrists to be a open move to grasp political power at any cost. That would cost the Democrats in the next election in 2022.

You think appointing Barrett doesn't look like an open move to grasp political power?

It looks like another HUGE win for president Trump to me! :eusa_dance:

What did Trump do?

McConnell blocked Obama from filling seats and then packed the courts with young Conservatives
Didn't block anything. Just didn't call a vote. His right.

And it will be the Democrat's right to add more members to the court.
That is a horrible idea, no natter which side does it.
I can’t stress that enough.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea. Now that your party set the precedent, it's a little late for you to start whining about what your party set in motion.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea.

How many did he block?

Now that your party set the precedent,

You think 2015-2016 was the first time a Senate controlled by an opposing party has left some
court seats open at the end of a President's term? LOL!
They just don’t seem to get it.
Then they take their perceived slight, and think “well then we will do this!” And plan to do something incredibly stupid (pack the court.
Despite me saying repeatedly that I would be opposed to anyone doing it, and telling them it’s an absolutely horrible road to go down, they keep responding like bitter little partisans.
Hey clowns, ITS A HORRIBLE IDEA NO MATTER WHO DOES IT!!!
it's a demofk threat and only a demofk threat. stop with the both party shit. The GOP never ever did what the demofks do. never ever. The demofks created the nuclear option in the Senate. Not the republicans. Ending filibustering was the demofks, not the republicans, and now they are threatening this. It is always a threat from the demofks. Alwys
Mitch turned the filibuster from a rarely used tool to a constant 60 vote requirement
That’s how it works when the majority party won’t compromise with the minority party. The filibuster was designed to force compromise rather than one party rule.
Thats what happens when you have minority rule.

The Republicans exist on minority rule in the Senate, House, White House and now the Courts

Democrats are also a minority party, Sport. Your command of the English language is as bad as the government that educated you

Republicans are the minority party, Sport. The Senators who voted for ACB represent 13.5 million FEWER voters that the Senators who voted against her. Republicans have been the minority party for years, winning the House with consistently fewer votes than Democrats. Trump lost the popular vote.

The packing of the courts will be undone. There won't be enough Republicans left to stop them after this election.

What packing are you talking about? Appointing a 9th justice is now “packing” to Democrats?
She doesn't have a clue how the American system works, and she proves it here daily.
 
Elections have consequences.

If Trump wins and Republicans retain control of the Senate we can pack the court and Dems won't oppose it?

They will need the House also

If Dems take all three, why should they not use their power?
Because it would be stupid and appear to the centrists to be a open move to grasp political power at any cost. That would cost the Democrats in the next election in 2022.

You think appointing Barrett doesn't look like an open move to grasp political power?

It looks like another HUGE win for president Trump to me! :eusa_dance:

What did Trump do?

McConnell blocked Obama from filling seats and then packed the courts with young Conservatives
Didn't block anything. Just didn't call a vote. His right.

And it will be the Democrat's right to add more members to the court.
That is a horrible idea, no natter which side does it.
I can’t stress that enough.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea. Now that your party set the precedent, it's a little late for you to start whining about what your party set in motion.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea.

How many did he block?

Now that your party set the precedent,

You think 2015-2016 was the first time a Senate controlled by an opposing party has left some
court seats open at the end of a President's term? LOL!
They just don’t seem to get it.
Then they take their perceived slight, and think “well then we will do this!” And plan to do something incredibly stupid (pack the court.
Despite me saying repeatedly that I would be opposed to anyone doing it, and telling them it’s an absolutely horrible road to go down, they keep responding like bitter little partisans.
Hey clowns, ITS A HORRIBLE IDEA NO MATTER WHO DOES IT!!!
it's a demofk threat and only a demofk threat. stop with the both party shit. The GOP never ever did what the demofks do. never ever. The demofks created the nuclear option in the Senate. Not the republicans. Ending filibustering was the demofks, not the republicans, and now they are threatening this. It is always a threat from the demofks. Alwys
Mitch turned the filibuster from a rarely used tool to a constant 60 vote requirement
That’s how it works when the majority party won’t compromise with the minority party. The filibuster was designed to force compromise rather than one party rule.
Thats what happens when you have minority rule.

The Republicans exist on minority rule in the Senate, House, White House and now the Courts

Democrats are also a minority party, Sport. Your command of the English language is as bad as the government that educated you

Most Americans overwhelmingly vote Democratic

In the Senate, Dems control the big population states of California, NY and Illinois
Republicans counter with Wyoming and the Dakotas and get the same number of Senators

In the House, Republicans used the census of 2010 to Gerrymander représentation well in excess of the votes they received.

Of Course, Trump received 3 million fewer votes than Clinton

That is why Mitch McConnell is so intent on seizing the court system for a generation by packing it with young, unqualified Conservatives

More of your lies. Hillary didn't get a majority. Most Democrats don't. You're another government educated failure who literally doesn't know what the word "majority" means.

The country is split, independents are a large percent. Few candidates get a majority

Trump got 3 million fewer votes than Hillary.
 
Elections have consequences.

If Trump wins and Republicans retain control of the Senate we can pack the court and Dems won't oppose it?

They will need the House also

If Dems take all three, why should they not use their power?
Because it would be stupid and appear to the centrists to be a open move to grasp political power at any cost. That would cost the Democrats in the next election in 2022.

You think appointing Barrett doesn't look like an open move to grasp political power?

It looks like another HUGE win for president Trump to me! :eusa_dance:

What did Trump do?

McConnell blocked Obama from filling seats and then packed the courts with young Conservatives
Didn't block anything. Just didn't call a vote. His right.

And it will be the Democrat's right to add more members to the court.
That is a horrible idea, no natter which side does it.
I can’t stress that enough.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea. Now that your party set the precedent, it's a little late for you to start whining about what your party set in motion.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea.

How many did he block?

Now that your party set the precedent,

You think 2015-2016 was the first time a Senate controlled by an opposing party has left some
court seats open at the end of a President's term? LOL!
They just don’t seem to get it.
Then they take their perceived slight, and think “well then we will do this!” And plan to do something incredibly stupid (pack the court.
Despite me saying repeatedly that I would be opposed to anyone doing it, and telling them it’s an absolutely horrible road to go down, they keep responding like bitter little partisans.
Hey clowns, ITS A HORRIBLE IDEA NO MATTER WHO DOES IT!!!
it's a demofk threat and only a demofk threat. stop with the both party shit. The GOP never ever did what the demofks do. never ever. The demofks created the nuclear option in the Senate. Not the republicans. Ending filibustering was the demofks, not the republicans, and now they are threatening this. It is always a threat from the demofks. Alwys
Mitch turned the filibuster from a rarely used tool to a constant 60 vote requirement
That’s how it works when the majority party won’t compromise with the minority party. The filibuster was designed to force compromise rather than one party rule.
Thats what happens when you have minority rule.

The Republicans exist on minority rule in the Senate, House, White House and now the Courts

Democrats are also a minority party, Sport. Your command of the English language is as bad as the government that educated you

Most Americans overwhelmingly vote Democratic

In the Senate, Dems control the big population states of California, NY and Illinois
Republicans counter with Wyoming and the Dakotas and get the same number of Senators

In the House, Republicans used the census of 2010 to Gerrymander représentation well in excess of the votes they received.

Of Course, Trump received 3 million fewer votes than Clinton

That is why Mitch McConnell is so intent on seizing the court system for a generation by packing it with young, unqualified Conservatives
Most Americans overwhelmingly vote Democratic

A blatant lie.
 
Elections have consequences.

If Trump wins and Republicans retain control of the Senate we can pack the court and Dems won't oppose it?

They will need the House also

If Dems take all three, why should they not use their power?
Because it would be stupid and appear to the centrists to be a open move to grasp political power at any cost. That would cost the Democrats in the next election in 2022.

You think appointing Barrett doesn't look like an open move to grasp political power?

It looks like another HUGE win for president Trump to me! :eusa_dance:

What did Trump do?

McConnell blocked Obama from filling seats and then packed the courts with young Conservatives
Didn't block anything. Just didn't call a vote. His right.

And it will be the Democrat's right to add more members to the court.
That is a horrible idea, no natter which side does it.
I can’t stress that enough.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea. Now that your party set the precedent, it's a little late for you to start whining about what your party set in motion.

McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea.

How many did he block?

Now that your party set the precedent,

You think 2015-2016 was the first time a Senate controlled by an opposing party has left some
court seats open at the end of a President's term? LOL!
They just don’t seem to get it.
Then they take their perceived slight, and think “well then we will do this!” And plan to do something incredibly stupid (pack the court.
Despite me saying repeatedly that I would be opposed to anyone doing it, and telling them it’s an absolutely horrible road to go down, they keep responding like bitter little partisans.
Hey clowns, ITS A HORRIBLE IDEA NO MATTER WHO DOES IT!!!
it's a demofk threat and only a demofk threat. stop with the both party shit. The GOP never ever did what the demofks do. never ever. The demofks created the nuclear option in the Senate. Not the republicans. Ending filibustering was the demofks, not the republicans, and now they are threatening this. It is always a threat from the demofks. Alwys
Mitch turned the filibuster from a rarely used tool to a constant 60 vote requirement
That’s how it works when the majority party won’t compromise with the minority party. The filibuster was designed to force compromise rather than one party rule.
Thats what happens when you have minority rule.

The Republicans exist on minority rule in the Senate, House, White House and now the Courts

Democrats are also a minority party, Sport. Your command of the English language is as bad as the government that educated you

Republicans are the minority party, Sport. The Senators who voted for ACB represent 13.5 million FEWER voters that the Senators who voted against her. Republicans have been the minority party for years, winning the House with consistently fewer votes than Democrats. Trump lost the popular vote.

The packing of the courts will be undone. There won't be enough Republicans left to stop them after this election.

You get more deranged every day. There is no "packing", even the Dems have dropped that stupid talking point. What is your obsession with the "popular vote"? It means nothing in the United States.

The will of the people does mean something in the U.S. They weren't capable of counting the popular vote, so the electoral college was in the constitution, but it was never meant to override the will of the people. Since 1864, the first year popular vote was recorded, that fluke has only appeared 5 times.

That doesn't even make sense. How would the EC "override the will of the people" when that's how we conduct elections in this country?
 
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