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The Rabbi

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Here is a famous document from American history. See how many of the particulars against King George would apply equally to King Obama.
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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.
He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

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Secession would require some folks willing to bleed. And the secession movement is filled with folks that won't.
 
Secession would require some folks willing to bleed. And the secession movement is filled with folks that won't.
Bullshit.
Czechoslovakia broke up into two states and there was no bloodshed. The US should just agree that free states be allowed to organize themselves into a separate political entity. Maybe governed by the original COnstitution.
 
Weak motherfuckers quit. Unbelievably weak motherfuckers constantly threaten to quit....but don't have the balls to do so.
Yeah I guess those Founding Father were a bunch of weak motherfuckers.
You're such a fuckng tool bag.
 
Secession would require some folks willing to bleed. And the secession movement is filled with folks that won't.
Bullshit.
Czechoslovakia broke up into two states and there was no bloodshed. The US should just agree that free states be allowed to organize themselves into a separate political entity. Maybe governed by the original COnstitution.

Our country doesn't have a history of bloodless break ups. Every attempt at secession has been a bloody one. And the secession movement has Jeffersons by the score. But not a Hamilton among them. Which is why there will be no secession.
 
Weak motherfuckers quit. Unbelievably weak motherfuckers constantly threaten to quit....but don't have the balls to do so.

They are the Quebec of our union.
Weak motherfuckers quit. Unbelievably weak motherfuckers constantly threaten to quit....but don't have the balls to do so.
Yeah I guess those Founding Father were a bunch of weak motherfuckers.
You're such a fuckng tool bag.

The founding fathers were willing to bleed. Secessionists aren't.
 
Weak motherfuckers quit. Unbelievably weak motherfuckers constantly threaten to quit....but don't have the balls to do so.

They are the Quebec of our union.
Weak motherfuckers quit. Unbelievably weak motherfuckers constantly threaten to quit....but don't have the balls to do so.
Yeah I guess those Founding Father were a bunch of weak motherfuckers.
You're such a fuckng tool bag.

The founding fathers were willing to bleed. Secessionists aren't.
You know this because?
Are the unionists willing to bleed? Are they willing to shoot down fellow citizens in the streets?
 
You know this because?
Are the unionists willing to bleed? Are they willing to shoot down fellow citizens in the streets?

Because they fought and bled. You know, the 'war' in revolutionary war. What do you think the British were using against the colonists in that war, harsh language?

If secessionists were willing to bleed for their convictions, they would have. Alas, they talk. A lot. And do nothing.

Which is why there will be no secession.
 
You know this because?
Are the unionists willing to bleed? Are they willing to shoot down fellow citizens in the streets?

Because they fought and bled. You know, the 'war' in revolutionary war. What do you think the British were using against the colonists in that war, harsh language?

If secessionists were willing to bleed for their convictions, they would have. Alas, they talk. A lot. And do nothing.

Which is why there will be no secession.
Stunning lack of coherence. Even for you.
Patrick Henry was speaking out against the Crown in 1765. Lexington and Concord werent until 1775. We're nowhere near there yet. But its' coming.
 
You know this because?
Are the unionists willing to bleed? Are they willing to shoot down fellow citizens in the streets?

Because they fought and bled. You know, the 'war' in revolutionary war. What do you think the British were using against the colonists in that war, harsh language?

If secessionists were willing to bleed for their convictions, they would have. Alas, they talk. A lot. And do nothing.

Which is why there will be no secession.
Stunning lack of coherence. Even for you.
Patrick Henry was speaking out against the Crown in 1765. Lexington and Concord werent until 1775. We're nowhere near there yet. But its' coming.

And your ilk have been lamenting about secession for far more than 10 years. The movement in its modern incarnation goes back at least 30. And you'll be talking about it for 30 more. As you lack the conviction, courage and willingness to bleed that the founding fathers possessed.

Look at your own statements:

Czechoslovakia broke up into two states and there was no bloodshed. The US should just agree that free states be allowed to organize themselves into a separate political entity. Maybe governed by the original COnstitution.

You want the US to grant you secession without having to bleed or fight. As you won't do either. Nor will your ilk. Which is why there will be no secession. You're talkers. You've modeled yourself after Jefferson.

When you should have modeled yourselves after Hamilton.
 
chickenshit weak motherfucker

Rabid, your phone is ringing.
 
Where's the geographical fault line? If Ohio does not want to commit treason by secession but Indiana does, where should the loyal citizens of Ohio appeal? Or do you want just the south and some trailer parks in your new 'nation'?
 
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Where's the geographical fault line? If Ohio does not want to commit treason by secession but Indiana does, where should the loyal citizens of Ohio appeal? Or do you want just the south and some trailer parks in your new 'nation'?
Dont you have a toilet to check?
 

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