Seattle Teachers on Strike, 6 Figures and 3 Months Off a Year Not Enough

[initforme]

Yeah. Poor education system.
Graduate kids from high school who can’t even add or read.

Your assertion is it's easy and lucrative. So why aren't you doing it rather than crying?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Other than professional athletes, who else gets over 3 months off a year?

That is not 3 months and it is unpaid,you moron!

 

[Blaster]

You realize that kindergarten teachers are teaching reading these days?

Good. Let's start there.

You have 20 kindergarten students. You are tasked with teaching them all to read, at beginning stages.

Five of them do not know even three letters.

Two of them are reading at a third grade level.

The rest are somewhere in between.

Oh, and you will have to keep accurate data on every child to placate the politicians. And oh, one of your kinders is not potty trained. You know, the parents "just didn't get around to it". Another one wears headphones all the time because of "sensory issues", and the other is most certainly autistic but not diagnosed because mom and dad "don't want him to be labeled".

Also, you were promised a full-time aide, but no one wants to change the poopy pants of the one kid, and deal with the meltdowns of the undx autistic child, so the district can't find someone to work the $12/hour they're offering all day. So all you have is someone "popping in" to help. Which is almost never.

Also, you're lazy.

Good luck!

You chose that profession so quit complaining.

 

[Blaster]

That is not 3 months and it is unpaid,you moron!

Instead of calling people names please try and respond like an adult.

 

[initforme]

You chose that profession so quit complaining.

You're not a teacher so why are you commenting,?

 

[Blaster]

You're not a teacher so why are you commenting,?

This is an open forum.

 

[DGS49]

I said many private school teachers are unqualified to be public school teachers. FACT!

I also said if they were qualified, they were merely waiting to move to a public school when a position was available.

You obviously do not understand the concept of average. There are some exceptional private schools, but they are vastly outnumbered by inferior performing private schools catering to parents who seek religious instruction, parochial schools not included in that category.

Let me clue you in there, please. Unionized teachers do NOT have collective bargaining rights in many states (red) and have lousy pay and benefits.

Retirement for me in Florida was 40% of a lousy pay scale after 30 years and no other benefits. Teachers were barred from striking by state law.

In Kentucky, teachers fund 100% of their own retirement benefits. I retired because our governor and state legislature wanted to reduce the benefits that we paid for! They ultimately failed because the courts ruled against them trying to steal our retirement funds.

Your pie in the sky solution needs a good reality check. Teacher compensation is a district function which usually means it sucks if you do not have the ability to strike for better benefits! The district tells you what you get and you get to say thank you!

In summary, you need to educate yourself on education.

Yo, Admiral R-T: I don't disagree with anything you say, and you don't contradict anything I wrote.

I know my "solution" is pie-in-the-sky, but it's a good place to start.

A good friend of mine was a HS music teacher and band leader for 35 years. He recently got his first retirement check raise in ten years...$25/mo. I know how bad it is in many (usually southern) states. The question is, how to combat it without violating the Constitution? My suggestion is one way.

 

[Weatherman2020]

That is not 3 months and it is unpaid,you moron!

They get 3 months off during the year.
6 figures and full pension upon retirement.

 

[Weatherman2020]

That is not 3 months and it is unpaid,you moron!

Actually you’re right. They get almost 4 months off a year.

 

[Blaster]

They get 3 months off during the year.
6 figures and full pension upon retirement.

Yet they complain all the time. If they are so unhappy then maybe they should make a career change.

 

[Blaster]

I had a few dedicated teachers in high school but many others just went through the motions. I was self motivated so I did very well but there were unmotivated kids that needed help and many teachers didn't care about them.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Teachers are striking for more pay and smaller class size.
Why not graduation requirements?

That is not a term that they can negotiate. It is none of the teacher's business. Graduation requirements are set by the district or state.

 

[Blaster]

That is not a term that they can negotiate. It is none of the teacher's business. Graduation requirements are set by the district or state.

It's supposed to be about the students.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Yet they complain all the time. If they are so unhappy then maybe they should make a career change.

Complain? Teachers have a right to complain. In most cases teacher's get lousy pay, little benefits, lack of tenure, increased administrative responsibilities, no planning opportunities, unpaid days added to schedules, failure of administrator's to discipline students or even hold them accountable, etc.

I know there are exceptions to those complaints in a lot of school districts, but you need to realize most of those went away with collective bargaining agreements. That's something most teachers do not have.

If every teacher quit, who would educate the product of your loins?

 

[Blaster]

Complain? Teachers have a right to complain. In most cases teacher's get lousy pay, little benefits, lack of tenure, increased administrative responsibilities, no planning opportunities, unpaid days added to schedules, failure of administrator's to discipline students or even hold them accountable, etc.

I know there are exceptions to those complaints in a lot of school districts, but you need to realize most of those went away with collective bargaining agreements. That's something most teachers do not have.

If every teacher quit, who would educate the product of your loins?

All you do is moan and bitch just like most teachers. You really must live a miserable existence.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

It's supposed to be about the students.

Unions have NEVER been about students. They represent teachers.

States would never surrender graduation requirements to teacher contracts. Imagine a state where there are 171 different graduation requirements, depending on which school district you would attend. That would be my former state, where I last taught before retiring.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

All you do is moan and bitch just like most teachers. You really must live a miserable existence.

I retired from teaching in 2018 because my state tried to rip off my retirement. I took a lump sum payment and have had to spend it all on medical bills.

You are the one who must be miserable because of your own ignorance.

 

[Blaster]

Unions have NEVER been about students. They represent teachers.

States would never surrender graduation requirements to teacher contracts. Imagine a state where there are 171 different graduation requirements, depending on which school district you would attend. That would be my former state, where I last taught before retiring.

I consider teaching a trade and not a profession. Real professionals don't need a union representing them.

 

[Blaster]

I retired from teaching in 2018 because my state tried to rip off my retirement. I took a lump sum payment and have had to spend it all on medical bills.

You are the one who must be miserable because of your own ignorance.

I lead a very happy life and am glad I made good decisions.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I consider teaching a trade and not a profession. Real professionals don't need a union representing them.

That is because you are an ignorant piece of shit. Most teacher's unions do NOT have collective bargaining rights and are banned from striking. Those type of unions only function is to ensure due process for teachers being disciplined.