Scott Ritter Believes Russia's Winning in Ukraine

[HappyJoy]

The U.S. — and Zelensky himself — may some time in the future agree to seek a ceasefire and negotiated settlement that “diplomatically” recognizes at least the reasonableness of the Russian historical claim to Crimea. That may be necessary to end this war. At that time we may see charges of “treason” hurled by Ukrainian ultra-nationalists and fascists at the Jewish Zelensky, the West, etc. But for now the key questions are still being resolved by fighting, and it is necessary that Putin’s bloody invasion be stopped and pushed back.

Ukraine has a lot of issues that they need to resolve. It's sad that so called Americans who pretend to care about democracy use Ukraine's history as they attempt to escape authoritarianism as a cudgel to push them back into the evil empire.

 

[georgephillip]

Russia can't even get countries of the former Soviet Union to vote against the U.N. resolution sanctioning them. Armenia, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan all abstained. Ouch.

"141 of the 193 member states voted for the resolution, while 35 abstained, five voted against and 12 didn’t vote at all."

Which countries abstained from UN vote on Ukraine?

The world is sick of the US using economic sanctions as a tool of its foreign policy, so when the dollar ceases to function as the global reserve currency, you can thank Biden for paying two to three times as much for your food and energy. OUCH

 

[georgephillip]

I'm not concerned with what you believe now. I'm more or less leaving this here to take a look at in 1, 2 or 5 years from now.

I think you're right about that.
We'll see what Ukraine (and the US economy) look like at Christmas.

Besides China, Putin Has Another Potential De-dollarization Partner in Asia

 

[georgephillip]

Yes...we understand that anti-Semitism is strong in Russia...and thus their sock puppets

Apparently you don't understand the difference between corrupt Jews and anti-Semitism.

Zelensky is a sock puppet for Kolomoisky and Kolomoisky is a sock for NATO and the IMF; although, you're unlikely to learn that by listening to MSDNC.

How an embattled Ukrainian oligarch has kept his grip on an economic empire

"There is perhaps no individual outside government in Ukraine these days that elicits more public attention, and for many, suspicion, than Ihor Kolomoisky.

"As one of Ukraine’s wealthiest entrepreneurs, Kolomoisky has repeatedly proven himself a master of back-room maneuvering to get his way and preserve his considerable influence.

"But now, as Ukraine strives to secure a financial lifeline from the International Monetary Fund amid the COVID-19 pandemic, Kolomoisky is faced with an especially severe challenge to his economic empire and his insider position.

"The outcome of the IMF assistance saga could go a long way toward determining whether Kolomoisky’s role as a powerbroker is coming to an end."

Do you think it's a coincidence that Kolomoisky funded Zelensky's presidential campaign AND the television tripe that elevated Zelensky to president of Ukraine?

 

[georgephillip]

Yep, Russia is using Ukraine's history against them (kind of ironic too) and there are fascist elements in Ukraine however the central government isn't it

The central government is controlled by fascist oligarchs. Some of them favor the EU to increase their private fortunes while others believe their lifestyles depend on close economic ties with Russia. In Ukraine as everywhere else, the rich are the problem, and nowhere is that more obvious than in the USA.

 

[Lesh]

Anti-Semitic sock puppets...who knew

 

[Lesh]

At least georgephillip has given up any pretense that he is NOT a Russian sock puppet...so there's that

 

[HappyJoy]

"141 of the 193 member states voted for the resolution, while 35 abstained, five voted against and 12 didn’t vote at all."

Which countries abstained from UN vote on Ukraine?

The world is sick of the US using economic sanctions as a tool of its foreign policy, so when the dollar ceases to function as the global reserve currency, you can thank Biden for paying two to three times as much for your food and energy. OUCH

The world is sick of the US using economic sanctions but 73% of all countries voted for the resolution and only a paltry 3% voted against.

OK, I'm not sure if you're aware but the sanctions against Russia is a lot more than just the United States.

I honestly don't know why you're arguing against your own point with a link like that.

 

[HappyJoy]

I think you're right about that.
We'll see what Ukraine (and the US economy) look like at Christmas.

Besides China, Putin Has Another Potential De-dollarization Partner in Asia

Have you noticed that China isn't completely on board with Russia's invasion?

Have you noticed that you seem to love countries that aren't exactly bastions of freedom?

How come Russian "news" outlets are banned from calling this an invasion or a war? Hell, even citizens aren't freely allowed to criticize their government without risking personal harm. Why are you Putin's cum bucket?

 

[HappyJoy]

The central government is controlled by fascist oligarchs.

It's not.

Some of them favor the EU to increase their private fortunes while others believe their lifestyles depend on close economic ties with Russia. In Ukraine as everywhere else, the rich are the problem, and nowhere is that more obvious than in the USA.

How many yachts? Why are you all in on a guy who is probably richer than Jeff Bezos by ripping off his own country?

 

[Redfish]

Would evicting the Russians from Crimea suffice?



"Russia wants to control Ukraine and have it be a non-Western-leaning state, but Horrell (former Naval intelligence officer) said the Ukrainian people have shown that the invasion alone will not eliminate their Western ideals.

"And, he said, they would not accept a president who was chosen by Russia.

"'That is almost zero chance of occurring now,' Horrell said. 'And for Ukraine ... you would define victory as the complete expulsion of the Russian invaders, not just this recent invasion, but to get the borders back to 2014, before Crimea was illegally annexed.'"

first of all they are unable to "evict the Russians from Crimea". The real danger we face with our incompetent senile president is him making a stupid decision to send US troops to Ukraine and igniting a shooting war with Russia. How many american kids in uniform are you willing to sacrifice for Ukraine in order to keep the Biden money laundering operation functional?

 

[Redfish]

Ukraine has a lot of issues that they need to resolve. It's sad that so called Americans who pretend to care about democracy use Ukraine's history as they attempt to escape authoritarianism as a cudgel to push them back into the evil empire.

in a poll last year 80% of Ukrainians said they favored rejoining Russia. They believed that Russian corruption would be less than the corruption they currently face in Ukraine.

 

[gipper]

in a poll last year 80% of Ukrainians said they favored rejoining Russia. They believed that Russian corruption would be less than the corruption they currently face in Ukraine.

Have you got proof of that you could post? I know that’s true of the Donbass, but doubt it’s true of all of Ukraine.

 

[Redfish]

Have you got proof of that you could post? I know that’s true of the Donbass, but doubt it’s true of all of Ukraine.

I'll see if I can find it.

 

[Redfish]

Have you got proof of that you could post? I know that’s true of the Donbass, but doubt it’s true of all of Ukraine.

5 Polls That Contextualize the Russia-Ukraine Crisis | Russia Matters

www.russiamatters.org

not the one I was looking for, but some interesting data.

 

[HappyJoy]

in a poll last year 80% of Ukrainians said they favored rejoining Russia. They believed that Russian corruption would be less than the corruption they currently face in Ukraine.

All of Ukraine? My, my you must provide a source for that.

 

[Lesh]

in a poll last year 80% of Ukrainians said they favored rejoining Russia. They believed that Russian corruption would be less than the corruption they currently face in Ukraine.

******* lies

 

[Redfish]

******* lies

5 Polls That Contextualize the Russia-Ukraine Crisis | Russia Matters

www.russiamatters.org

 

[Redfish]

All of Ukraine? My, my you must provide a source for that.

5 Polls That Contextualize the Russia-Ukraine Crisis | Russia Matters

www.russiamatters.org

 

[HappyJoy]

5 Polls That Contextualize the Russia-Ukraine Crisis | Russia Matters

www.russiamatters.org

Can you talk a little more about the 80% of Ukrainians want to join Russia poll that you claimed existed?