Scott Ritter Believes Russia's Winning in Ukraine

[Litwin]

Where is he?

you mongols juchi are natural rats )) just look

 

[HappyJoy]

Too busy supporting human rights in Ukraine.

UN report documents massive attacks on democratic rights in Ukraine

"The report covered developments from November 1, 2019 to October 31, 2021, all dates which fall under the regime of Zelensky, who was first elected in May 2019 largely due to widespread disillusionment with the right-wing nationalist policies of former President Petro Poroshenko.

"The Poroshenko regime had come to power in the wake of the 2014 US-backed coup in Ukraine, in which a pro-Russian government was toppled through the mobilization of far-right forces.

"Several previous reports by the UN Human Rights Council since 2014 have made similar statements, demonstrating both a continuation and further acceleration of government attacks on the press and democratic rights under Zelensky."

Neat.

Did you know the OHCR reports on the government of Ukraine, the occupying force of Crimea (Russia) and self-proclaimed republics in the east? Of those guess which one is making attempts to implementing OHCHR (UN) reccomendations?

For every point brought up by the...wait for it "worldsocialistwebsite" Russia's history is much, much worse. Killing journalists, doctors and others that found that disagreeing with Putin is dangerous to ones health.

These are the prominent critics and enemies Putin is suspected of having killed

Vladimir Putin's enemies often get killed under mysterious circumstances. There are at least 13 people Putin is suspected of having assassinated.

www.businessinsider.com

Nobody has said that Ukraine is the perfect example of democracy, but right now it's head and shoulders more so where it was 10 years ago and they at least have fair elections. Something that is dubious in Russia.

Lastly, this is Ukraine, not Russia, why is Russia there bombing the shit out of it's civilians?

 

[georgephillip]

ou mongols juchi are natural rats )) just look

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Halfway to the End of the War | MR Online

"'Ukraine was NATO’s junior partner, which played a dominant role in our country,' said Mykhailo Podolyak, a member of the Ukrainian delegation and advisor to President Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s chief of staff.

"There is no doubt that the U.S. has been preparing, since the era of Barack Obama, for Ukraine’s entry into NATO, raising the readiness of the military forces, tripling the number of the army personnel and training it for the use of Western weapons.

"The U.S. provided Javelin anti-tank missiles and $2.7 billion in military assistance over many years.

"The amount significantly increased with the beginning of the war.

"Germany broke its long-standing foreign policy banning all lethal weapon exports to conflict zones.

"It delivered 1,000 anti-tank rocket launchers, 500 Stinger surface-to-surface missiles, Howitzers, armed vehicles and thousands of tons of fuel. Sweden, Finland, Denmark, Norway, Croatia, Slovenia, Italy, France, Belgium, the Netherlands, Portugal, the Czech Republic, Romania and Canada delivered thousands of machine guns, rifles and anti-tank weapons. Turkey provided the Bayraktar TB2 armed drone."

 

[georgephillip]

For every point brought up by the...wait for it "worldsocialistwebsite" Russia's history is much, much worse. Killing journalists, doctors and others that found that disagreeing with Putin is dangerous to ones health.

The WSWS is clear Putin and other rich Russians are capitalists.
Are you?
Russia is close to becoming a failed state largely because of US interference since the end of the Cold War. Its human rights record is indefensible, but that doesn't alter the continuing efforts of the US to force regime change in Moscow.

UN report documents massive attacks on democratic rights in Ukraine

"The coup of 2014, which provided the basis for an enormous escalation of the geopolitical conflict with Russia, was promoted by the Western media as a 'democratic revolution.'

"The heavy involvement of neo-Nazi forces in the coup and new government was deliberately denied and covered up.

"To this day, bourgeois think tanks such as the Atlantic Council promote these lies in order to further the NATO war preparations against Russia."

 

[HappyJoy]

The WSWS is clear Putin and other rich Russians are capitalists.
Are you?
Russia is close to becoming a failed state largely because of US interference since the end of the Cold War. Its human rights record is indefensible, but that doesn't alter the continuing efforts of the US to force regime change in Moscow.

Who is trying to force regime change in Ukraine? Am I a capitalist? Meh, I'm none of those things.

UN report documents massive attacks on democratic rights in Ukraine

The UN notes improvements to Ukraine (see my chart above) and the UN also voted against Russia on their invasion, but you don't care about that.

"The coup of 2014, which provided the basis for an enormous escalation of the geopolitical conflict with Russia, was promoted by the Western media as a 'democratic revolution.'

The guy from 2014 was voted out in favor of Zelensky. That's what democracies do, hold elections. Maybe Russia should try doing that for real.

"The heavy involvement of neo-Nazi forces in the coup and new government was deliberately denied and covered up.

Everybody knows about the Nazis in the east, what are you talking about?

"To this day, bourgeois think tanks such as the Atlantic Council promote these lies in order to further the NATO war preparations against Russia."

Except NATO isn't going to attack Russia unless provoked. If NATO really wanted to they'd do it now as is they won't even establish a no fly zone (for good reason btw).

 

[georgephillip]

Except NATO isn't going to attack Russia unless provoked. If

What did Yugoslavia and Libya do to provoke NATO?

 

[georgephillip]

o is trying to force regime change in Ukraine? Am I a capitalist? Meh, I'm none of those things.

If you referring to regime change in Russia, the US first began that project in 1918 when it invaded on the side of White Russians.

1996 was probably the biggest success so far

"In the end the Russian people chose--and chose decisively--to reject the past. Voting in the final round of the presidential election last week, they preferred Boris Yeltsin to his Communist rival Gennadi Zyuganov by a margin of 13 percentage points..."

"The outcome was by no means inevitable.

"Last winter Yeltsin's approval ratings were in the single digits.

"There are many reasons for his change in fortune, but a crucial one has remained a secret. For four months, a group of American political consultants clandestinely participated in guiding Yeltsin's campaign."

RESCUING BORIS

Those "political consultants" delivered a $10.3 billion IMF loan that allowed Yeltsin to gain another term, thereby continuing the looting of Russia state resources on behalf of Harvard.

 

[badger2]

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Halfway to the End of the War | MR Online

"'Ukraine was NATO’s junior partner, which played a dominant role in our country,' said Mykhailo Podolyak, a member of the Ukrainian delegation and advisor to President Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s chief of staff.

"There is no doubt that the U.S. has been preparing, since the era of Barack Obama, for Ukraine’s entry into NATO, raising the readiness of the military forces, tripling the number of the army personnel and training it for the use of Western weapons.

"The U.S. provided Javelin anti-tank missiles and $2.7 billion in military assistance over many years.

"The amount significantly increased with the beginning of the war.

"Germany broke its long-standing foreign policy banning all lethal weapon exports to conflict zones.

"It delivered 1,000 anti-tank rocket launchers, 500 Stinger surface-to-surface missiles, Howitzers, armed vehicles and thousands of tons of fuel. Sweden, Finland, Denmark, Norway, Croatia, Slovenia, Italy, France, Belgium, the Netherlands, Portugal, the Czech Republic, Romania and Canada delivered thousands of machine guns, rifles and anti-tank weapons. Turkey provided the Bayraktar TB2 armed drone."

When there are vaccine problems with a virus, that virus can be considered a potential bioweapon. One reviews the Pentagon's funding of the lab at Kharkiv, because it links to an American soldier in Germany infected with the virus in 2009 (ref#27) of this report:

2019 Ft. Detrick / CCHF

Animal Models for Crimean-Congo Hemorrhagic Fever Human Disease - PubMed

Crimean-Congo hemorrhagic fever virus (CCHFV) is an important tick-borne human pathogen endemic throughout Asia, Africa and Europe. CCHFV is also an emerging virus, with recent outbreaks in Western Europe. CCHFV can infect a large number of wild and domesticated mammalian species and some avian...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

So the U.S. Military knows that potentially fatal CCHF stops at 50 deg. N latitude. It would be absurd not to further investigate.

 

[georgephillip]

UN notes improvements to Ukraine (see my chart above) and the UN also voted against Russia on their invasion, but you don't care about that.

If I'm reading the date on your graph correctly, it's results were measured prior to Putin's illegal invasion. Since that occurred, Zelensky has declared martial law, banned any opinions that run counter to official state propaganda, and repeatedly called for a no-fly zone over Ukraine.

You seem indifferent to the reality none of this would be happening if the US was not meddling in the internal politics of Ukraine in order to profit from regime change in Russia?

 

[georgephillip]

The guy from 2014 was voted out in favor of Zelensky. That's what democracies do, hold elections. Maybe Russia should try doing that for real.

If you mean Viktor Yanukovych, he was elected in 2010 and removed from office in 2014 by a US-supported coup which replaced him with Victoria Nuland's hand-picked successor.

Ukraine crisis: Transcript of leaked Nuland-Pyatt call

"Nuland: [Breaks in] I think Yats is the guy who's got the economic experience, the governing experience. He's the... what he needs is Klitsch and Tyahnybok on the outside. He needs to be talking to them four times a week, you know. I just think Klitsch going in... he's going to be at that level working for Yatseniuk, it's just not going to work."

"Yats" (Arseniy Yatsenyuk) and the billionaire who took office after him (Petro Poroshenko) did nothing to eliminate the political corruption in Ukraine.

Zelensky capitalized on this failure in 2019 to become the current president.

Capitalism and democracy will always be in conflict.

 

[georgephillip]

So the U.S. Military knows that potentially fatal CCHF stops at 50 deg. N latitude. It would be absurd not to further investigate.

Your link:

"In humans, CCHFV infection can lead to a severe, life-threating disease characterized by hemodynamic instability, hepatic injury and neurological disorders, with a worldwide lethality rate of ~20-30%."

The DoD has admitted to working with Ukraine's Ministry of Health since 2005 "to improve the country's public health laboratories," so it would seem logical to look for any evidence of illegal research.

Ukraine war: Fact-checking Russia's biological weapons claims

 

[badger2]

Your link:

"In humans, CCHFV infection can lead to a severe, life-threating disease characterized by hemodynamic instability, hepatic injury and neurological disorders, with a worldwide lethality rate of ~20-30%."

The DoD has admitted to working with Ukraine's Ministry of Health since 2005 "to improve the country's public health laboratories," so it would seem logical to look for any evidence of illegal research.

Ukraine war: Fact-checking Russia's biological weapons claims

We are now on another thread going back to the Bulgarian journalist, Dilyana Gaytandzhieva, who began to expose the Lugar Research Center in Tbilisi. If not mistaken, Lugar and Obama went to Perm, Russia in 2005. CCHF precisely links the strategic Kharkiv lab near the Russian border, that sets at 50 Deg. N latitude, where the vector for CCHF virus stops.

 

[HappyJoy]

If you mean Viktor Yanukovych, he was elected in 2010 and removed from office in 2014 by a US-supported coup which replaced him with Victoria Nuland's hand-picked successor.

Ukraine crisis: Transcript of leaked Nuland-Pyatt call

"Nuland: [Breaks in] I think Yats is the guy who's got the economic experience, the governing experience. He's the... what he needs is Klitsch and Tyahnybok on the outside. He needs to be talking to them four times a week, you know. I just think Klitsch going in... he's going to be at that level working for Yatseniuk, it's just not going to work."

"Yats" (Arseniy Yatsenyuk) and the billionaire who took office after him (Petro Poroshenko) did nothing to eliminate the political corruption in Ukraine.

Zelensky capitalized on this failure in 2019 to become the current president.

Capitalism and democracy will always be in conflict.

Not who I was talking about. Zelensky won a democratic election where the majority of the people voted for him. We can't even say that about our most recent former president.

 

[HappyJoy]

If I'm reading the date on your graph correctly, it's results were measured prior to Putin's illegal invasion. Since that occurred, Zelensky has declared martial law, banned any opinions that run counter to official state propaganda, and repeatedly called for a no-fly zone over Ukraine.

When did Zelensky declare martial law? And no, he didn't ban 'any opinions that run counter to official state propaganda'. He banned Russian backed news organizations that were spreading propaganda. That may be good or bad but considering who is doing the invading and bombing of civilians I can't say it was a bad move.

You seem indifferent to the reality none of this would be happening if the US was not meddling in the internal politics of Ukraine in order to profit from regime change in Russia?

And by meddling you mean not bombing the shit out of them. Ok.

 

[georgephillip]

Not who I was talking about. Zelensky won a democratic election where the majority of the people voted for him. We can't even say that about our most recent former president.

Oligarchs are taking over everywhere or so it seems.
40 years ago there were fewer than a dozen US billionaires, and today there are hundreds.
What went wrong?

 

[badger2]

Your link:

"In humans, CCHFV infection can lead to a severe, life-threating disease characterized by hemodynamic instability, hepatic injury and neurological disorders, with a worldwide lethality rate of ~20-30%."

The DoD has admitted to working with Ukraine's Ministry of Health since 2005 "to improve the country's public health laboratories," so it would seem logical to look for any evidence of illegal research.

Ukraine war: Fact-checking Russia's biological weapons claims

Yes, back with you. Before posting Kennedy's excerpt about CIA-MI6 interference in cyberspace against those opposing vaccines, Kennedy's other excerpt should be first. Remember, Kennedy was yet to learn about the biolabs in Ukraine:

'War Games: Genesis of the Biosecurity State

"Many of us are pondering when things will return to normal. The short response is: never. Nothing will ever return to the "broken" Sens of normalcy that prevailed prior to the crisis because the coronavirus pandemic marks a fundamental inflection point in our global trajectory."
(Klaus Schwab, The Great Reset, July 2020)

History of Bioweapons

The Unites States began its first large-scale offensive bioweapons research during World War II in the spring of 1943 on orders from President Franklin Roosevelt, as a collaboration between the US military and its pharmaceutical industry partners. Pharma titan George W. Merck ran the Pentagon's offensive bioweapons program while simultaneously directing his drug manufacturing behemoth. Merck boasted that his team could deliver biowarfare agents without vast expenditures or constructing huge facilities. Another advvantage of bioweapons, he remarked, was that their devvelopment could proceed under the guise of legitimate medical research.

The intelligence agencies were involved in the top secret program from the outset. George Merck's hands-on employee, Frank Olson, was an American bacteriologist, biological warfare scientist, and CIA officer. He worked for the United States Army Biological Warfare Laboratories (USBWL) at Ft. Detrick with Merck and the US military developing the US bioweapons and psywarfare arsenal. Project Artichoke was an experimental CIA interrogation program that used psychoactive drugs like LSD in pursuit of "enhanced" interrogation methods. The project was part of a larger CIA program exploring approaches for controlling both individuals and populations. Olson was involved with Project Artichoke with moral misgivings, beginning in May 1952: afteer watching a documentary on Protestant reformation leader Martin Luther, a conscience-stricken Olson informed his bosses he intended to quit the biowarfare program.

Around the time of the announcement, Olson's CIA colleague, Sidney Gottlieb, head of the CIA's MKUltra program, covertly dosed him with LSD. A week later, on November 28, 1953, Olson plunged to his death from a window of New York's Hotel Statler. The US government first described his death as a suicide, and then as a misadventure.'
(Kennedy, The Real Anthony Fauci, p. 378)

The morality allusion of the theologian is also used by the CIA, and their modus operandi exploits this for profit from Homo sapiens as does organized protection-rackets of religion. What's important is Kennedy's excerpt linking the CCHF virus with a controversial vaccine history, to the Kharkiv lab near the Russian border where its vector, quits vectoring.

2019 Jun: CCHF / Avian / Ft. Detrick

Animal Models for Crimean-Congo Hemorrhagic Fever Human Disease - PubMed

Crimean-Congo hemorrhagic fever virus (CCHFV) is an important tick-borne human pathogen endemic throughout Asia, Africa and Europe. CCHFV is also an emerging virus, with recent outbreaks in Western Europe. CCHFV can infect a large number of wild and domesticated mammalian species and some avian...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[HappyJoy]

Oligarchs are taking over everywhere or so it seems.
40 years ago there were fewer than a dozen US billionaires, and today there are hundreds.
What went wrong?

Oh? what nationalized industry in the United States was sold off to private ownership?

 

[badger2]

We'll be posting on Skye's thread because that's where this belongs (even if you believe that science belongs in the Conspiracy forum). There the reader-prisoner can connect to various pertinent posts in the thread already established, such as the Kievv lab for Nychyk (post #121). The bird flu link to the Kharkiv lab is not simply due to the same species of avian influenza-vectoring sparrow found in Ukraine that is also found in the UK (MI5 & MI6 would set up and take notice), but also because of the fact that sandflies attack birds. Thus the very real possibility at Kharkiv's bird flu lab of experimenting with temperature mutants (of phleboviruses [italics]).

What changed in 2009 was Western Hemisphere Heartland virus vectored by a tick, called a bandavirus on the wikipage:

Phlebovirus

Phlebovirus - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

'Heartland bandavirus....'

 

[georgephillip]

Oh? what nationalized industry in the United States was sold off to private ownership?

"In the United States, under the Medicare managed care the government pays a managed care organization (MCO) a fixed amount called the 'capitated rate' for all medical services received by a beneficiary in a given period.

"Enrollment in the programs has increased substantially since 1990; in 2002 60% of Medicaid beneficiaries and 12% of Medicare beneficiaries were being treated by MCOs.

"Private sector involvement in Medicare and Medicaid is not limited to MCOs; private doctors, hospitals, nursing homes provide medical care; reimbursement claims are processed by private intermediaries; and peer review organizations, utilization review committees and accreditation organizations like JCAHO are staffed by private medical personnel.[5]"

Privatization in the United States - Wikipedia

 

[HappyJoy]

"In the United States, under the Medicare managed care the government pays a managed care organization (MCO) a fixed amount called the 'capitated rate' for all medical services received by a beneficiary in a given period.

"Enrollment in the programs has increased substantially since 1990; in 2002 60% of Medicaid beneficiaries and 12% of Medicare beneficiaries were being treated by MCOs.

"Private sector involvement in Medicare and Medicaid is not limited to MCOs; private doctors, hospitals, nursing homes provide medical care; reimbursement claims are processed by private intermediaries; and peer review organizations, utilization review committees and accreditation organizations like JCAHO are staffed by private medical personnel.[5]"

Privatization in the United States - Wikipedia

Allow me to ask the question again.

What nationalized industry in the United States was sold off to private ownership?