Scotlands kids to get free breakfast and lunch under new plans

[Mikeoxenormous]

If I feed my kids, clothe them, change their diapers and cut their food into small pieces, I have to do it for your kids too?
Fuck off!

"IF" ??? ... you actually said `if I feed my kids` ... I'm guessing the worthless impoverished third world nation you live in let children starve to death ... how European ...

... or at least you think it's funny to watch children waste away and die ...

We've Made America Great Again ... maybe Scotland wants to be great too ... don't want to hear your lame excuse ...

scotland isnt a3rd world country and america made itself great without help and so should scotland,,,
cause the fact is you aint great if you needed help to get there

Have you been there recently? I was there last year, there was vomit and piss on the sidewalks, a lot of poverty, a shithole, just like Chicago, just not as dark...if you know what i mean...

Okay, that was the major cities, not the countryside, which was beautiful, but there were plenty of eyesores up on the mountains..

 

[ReinyDays]

We never had this problem when adultery was illegal ...

 

[OldLady]

..it just promotes people to not have any financial or familial responsibility = the kids grow up the same = cycle continues

Growing children with developing brains need good nutrition. Just hoping all parents will provide it doesn't work as a policy. I hear your objection, but the problem isn't the kids and they shouldn't have to suffer for it.

putting the government in charge of nutrition is what led to one third of Americans being morbidly obese

What do you mean, the government is in charge of nutrition? They don't do my menu planning.

The government puts out its food pyramid and subsidizes meat egg and dairy farmers all in a bid to get people to eat that stuff. The Standard American Diet is a direct result of not only the government but of the big money from the meat and dairy industries who own the politicians who then give them subsidies

and who do you think chooses the "free" meals handed out by government institutions like schools?

Protein is necessary. The food pyramid doesn't make people fat. Over processed convenience foods and fast foods on every corner do. People are too busy to cook, or they're doing the easy thing. People tend to do the easier thing when it's available. You want to get rid of frozen meals and Hamburger Helper, seasoned rice in a microwaveable pouch, beef stew in a can? They're even selling mashed potatoes in the dairy aisle, crappy meals in the deli counter.

There you go repeating the government line.

You don't have to eat animals to get protein. Where do you think grazing animals get all the protein to make the muscle tissue you eat?

Dairy products are shielded from market forces by subsidies keeping them cheap and keeping the dairy industry rich. But you don't see those subsidies for fresh veg and fruits do you?

That is the government manipulating the public to buy what they want them to buy so as to keep the people who own them rich.

If you want to be a vegan that's your choice, but humans are designed as omnivores. Deal with it.

. We are not designed as anything since there are people who are healthy and thriving without eating meat or any animal products at all your assertion that we have to be omnivores and eat meat is wrong.

people do not have to eat meat to get adequate protein.

but hey why not eat a product that is basically rotting flesh pumped full of hormones and antibiotics and preservatives because the government tells you that you have to eat meat to be healthy.

Omnivores are equipped to eat both. Go start a thread in Health and Lifestyles about your damned diet. It has nothing to do with schools feeding kids.

 

[OldLady]

..it just promotes people to not have any financial or familial responsibility = the kids grow up the same = cycle continues

Growing children with developing brains need good nutrition. Just hoping all parents will provide it doesn't work as a policy. I hear your objection, but the problem isn't the kids and they shouldn't have to suffer for it.

Yeah, well why do we have so many dumbshits in the western world after having spent trillions on feeding fat kids? You can only attribute so much to their idiot teachers and parents, so now you default to they're not fat enough?

Are we talking about school lunches or something else? The government has no say what else a kid eats when kid is not in school.

Do you ever admit that you are a stupid person who doesnt know shit what is going on in the world today, just take your slave marching orders and parrot what ever your masters tell you to say?

Find Meals for Kids When Schools are Closed | USDA-FNS

Those USDA programs are through the schools! We used one of those grants summer before last, but parents had difficulty with transportation. It was at the school, using school cafeteria workers.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

..it just promotes people to not have any financial or familial responsibility = the kids grow up the same = cycle continues

Growing children with developing brains need good nutrition. Just hoping all parents will provide it doesn't work as a policy. I hear your objection, but the problem isn't the kids and they shouldn't have to suffer for it.

Yeah, well why do we have so many dumbshits in the western world after having spent trillions on feeding fat kids? You can only attribute so much to their idiot teachers and parents, so now you default to they're not fat enough?

Are we talking about school lunches or something else? The government has no say what else a kid eats when kid is not in school.

Do you ever admit that you are a stupid person who doesnt know shit what is going on in the world today, just take your slave marching orders and parrot what ever your masters tell you to say?

Find Meals for Kids When Schools are Closed | USDA-FNS

Those USDA programs are through the schools! We used one of those grants summer before last, but parents had difficulty with transportation. It was at the school, using school cafeteria workers.

Are we talking about school lunches or something else? The government has no say what else a kid eats when kid is not in school.

All during my time as an adult, i never made my kids go hungry, i always sent my kids to school with a bag of PB&J, a banana, a cup of yogurt, yet it seems that there are plenty of stupid people(who vote Democrat) that just dont know how to take care of children.....We were offered school lunch programs for my youngest, told them to shove it, they didnt appreciate that we didnt allow the school to get the food money for our child.

 

[OldLady]

..it just promotes people to not have any financial or familial responsibility = the kids grow up the same = cycle continues

Growing children with developing brains need good nutrition. Just hoping all parents will provide it doesn't work as a policy. I hear your objection, but the problem isn't the kids and they shouldn't have to suffer for it.

Yeah, well why do we have so many dumbshits in the western world after having spent trillions on feeding fat kids? You can only attribute so much to their idiot teachers and parents, so now you default to they're not fat enough?

Are we talking about school lunches or something else? The government has no say what else a kid eats when kid is not in school.

Do you ever admit that you are a stupid person who doesnt know shit what is going on in the world today, just take your slave marching orders and parrot what ever your masters tell you to say?

Find Meals for Kids When Schools are Closed | USDA-FNS

Those USDA programs are through the schools! We used one of those grants summer before last, but parents had difficulty with transportation. It was at the school, using school cafeteria workers.

Are we talking about school lunches or something else? The government has no say what else a kid eats when kid is not in school.

All during my time as an adult, i never made my kids go hungry, i always sent my kids to school with a bag of PB&J, a banana, a cup of yogurt, yet it seems that there are plenty of stupid people(who vote Democrat) that just dont know how to take care of children.....We were offered school lunch programs for my youngest, told them to shove it, they didnt appreciate that we didnt allow the school to get the food money for our child.

You tell 'em gramps! They could care less.
You get a medal, though, for packing them a lunch.

 

[Muhammed]

SNP pledges free breakfast and lunch for primary pupils all year round

Scotland’s education secretary, John Swinney, vows to dramatically extend free school meals policy

www.theguardian.com

Scotland could become the first UK nation to provide free breakfasts and lunches to every primary school child all year round, after the SNP pledged to do so if re-elected next May.

Speaking at the party’s conference, the Scottish education secretary, John Swinney, made the policy commitment as he claimed that the UK chancellor Rishi Sunak’s “second wave of austerity” would unleash a “tsunami of child poverty” in Scotland.

Sensible socialism in action. Nobody gets left behind.

As much as I understand and appreciate these offers for kids, as someone who was given such benefits as a kid. Not food, but certainly winter clothing and other payments to my mother. It's a bittersweet memory for me actually. At some point, the same looking clothes for three years at Christmas told me it wasn't from Santa. It's one thing to be poor, another thing to know it. You don't know it until you meet others who aren't like you.

I imagine it would be tough to be a kid getting that food as it would stigmatize them. Though in such larger numbers maybe it is a more palatable situation. You can't have kids go without food, so, this is a better solution than not eating but I'd consider food bank deliveries to allow some dignity of the parents and allow kids to eat at home if it were feasible.

Regardless. Poverty is spreading across the West, starting with the loss of the Middle Class and leaders are looking for fake explanations. They might say "racism" or "drug use" etc, or some other reason. They won't ever suggest a misuse of government resources, or, outsourcing of jobs to China for the pleasure of being spied on, kidnapped and assaulted. It couldn't possibly be this, because we have been told global socialism is good for us (it is NOT globalism as it's been sold and it's been good for only a few).

It's also a damnation of the welfare system to have such programs. The biggest culprit is probably the cost of housing. Rent eats up so much of ones resources on a fixed income that places like London and Toronto are unlivable places for the poor.

They will all get it so no stigma. When I was an infant we used to get a pint of milk given to us every day in school. A labour government introduced it after the war to help kids grow, It was stopped in the 70s by that bitch thatcher.

Cows milk doesn't help kids grow

Depends on the hormone levels...LOL!

The problem with the milk in school lunches isn't the hormones. It's the fact that they they remove most of the milkfat from it. Most of milk's nutrition comes from the milkfat.

So what do they do with the milkfat? They make other products out of it such as process cheese slices, which are not really cheese. They are only 51% dairy product. The rest of it is made from soybeans, which contains endocrine disrupting compounds that suppress thyroid function thus slowing down metabolism and making people fat and lazy.

The taxpayers have to pay twice for the same milk while the kids suffer the consequences.

 

[ReinyDays]

... yet it seems that there are plenty of stupid people(who vote Democrat) that just dont know how to take care of children ...

Plenty of Republicans who don't want the children punished for this ... it's not their fault the mom is a crack whore ...

Had a tenant disappear, no rent, got the eviction order ... it was obvious to both the deputy and me that the 12-year-old had been taking care of her two younger siblings for a couple of months ... just awful ... the mom's murderer got 20 years without chance of parole ... the kids were split up and sent to different foster homes ... not their fault ...

 

[2aguy]

SNP pledges free breakfast and lunch for primary pupils all year round

Scotland’s education secretary, John Swinney, vows to dramatically extend free school meals policy

www.theguardian.com

Scotland could become the first UK nation to provide free breakfasts and lunches to every primary school child all year round, after the SNP pledged to do so if re-elected next May.

Speaking at the party’s conference, the Scottish education secretary, John Swinney, made the policy commitment as he claimed that the UK chancellor Rishi Sunak’s “second wave of austerity” would unleash a “tsunami of child poverty” in Scotland.

Sensible socialism in action. Nobody gets left behind.

It's not free, but you don't understand that because you are a left wing sociopath....

 

[2aguy]

Here in America, Trump provides food stamps to millions of poverty stricken families so they can pick up cereal and coffee to feed their kids at home at no cost to them.

Great program, as different kids like different quality cereals. Cap'n Crunch, Count Chocula and Sugar Pops all have their advocates, as well as ethnic inspired cereals like the Irish Lucky Charms.

Shit! Trump provides...are you fuckin' crazy? the SNAP program is hated by the Right...and well you know it.

I note that you just can't help being snarky at the expense of children who are living in poverty--coffee and cereal indeed.

BTW..where I live..we have been giving kids free lunch and breakfast for years..yeah..in that reddest of states..Idaho. Even during the lock-down...volunteers prepared and distributed meals to every kid in public school...and we don't impose a means test--since we think it is the right thing to do.

Kids do better when they are not hungry.

Kids do better when their parents are responsible adults.........

 

[ESay]

Here in America, Trump provides food stamps to millions of poverty stricken families so they can pick up cereal and coffee to feed their kids at home at no cost to them.

Great program, as different kids like different quality cereals. Cap'n Crunch, Count Chocula and Sugar Pops all have their advocates, as well as ethnic inspired cereals like the Irish Lucky Charms.

Shit! Trump provides...are you fuckin' crazy? the SNAP program is hated by the Right...and well you know it.

I note that you just can't help being snarky at the expense of children who are living in poverty--coffee and cereal indeed.

BTW..where I live..we have been giving kids free lunch and breakfast for years..yeah..in that reddest of states..Idaho. Even during the lock-down...volunteers prepared and distributed meals to every kid in public school...and we don't impose a means test--since we think it is the right thing to do.

Kids do better when they are not hungry.

Kids do better when their parents are responsible adults.........

And what if they are not?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Free? Who's paying for it?

The parents. they pay taxes.

 

[2aguy]

Here in America, Trump provides food stamps to millions of poverty stricken families so they can pick up cereal and coffee to feed their kids at home at no cost to them.

Great program, as different kids like different quality cereals. Cap'n Crunch, Count Chocula and Sugar Pops all have their advocates, as well as ethnic inspired cereals like the Irish Lucky Charms.

Shit! Trump provides...are you fuckin' crazy? the SNAP program is hated by the Right...and well you know it.

I note that you just can't help being snarky at the expense of children who are living in poverty--coffee and cereal indeed.

BTW..where I live..we have been giving kids free lunch and breakfast for years..yeah..in that reddest of states..Idaho. Even during the lock-down...volunteers prepared and distributed meals to every kid in public school...and we don't impose a means test--since we think it is the right thing to do.

Kids do better when they are not hungry.

Kids do better when their parents are responsible adults.........

And what if they are not?

Then extended family first.......then, as a last resort, the government.....this plan skips those steps and is essentially going to addict these children to government as a solution.........not a good thing.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The problem with the milk in school lunches isn't the hormones. It's the fact that they they remove most of the milkfat from it. Most of milk's nutrition comes from the milkfat.

So what do they do with the milkfat? They make other products out of it such as process cheese slices, which are not really cheese. They are only 51% dairy product.

So the milkfat is all the nutrition.... but when fed to them in the cheese, they aren't getting nutrition. Makes sense, if you don't think about it.

Our childhood obesity epidemic shows us they are not undernourished.

 

[esalla]

SNP pledges free breakfast and lunch for primary pupils all year round

Scotland’s education secretary, John Swinney, vows to dramatically extend free school meals policy

www.theguardian.com

Scotland could become the first UK nation to provide free breakfasts and lunches to every primary school child all year round, after the SNP pledged to do so if re-elected next May.

Speaking at the party’s conference, the Scottish education secretary, John Swinney, made the policy commitment as he claimed that the UK chancellor Rishi Sunak’s “second wave of austerity” would unleash a “tsunami of child poverty” in Scotland.

Sensible socialism in action. Nobody gets left behind.

Great way to introduce mind altering hallucinogens'

 

[2aguy]

Free? Who's paying for it?

The parents. they pay taxes.

How about they keep that tax money and use it to feed their kids......you know, cut out the government middle man who will take a cut of that tax money and provide crap services with the rest.

At one point in the 90s they did research into how much tax money actually reached the poor people it was intended to help......it was 26 cents on the dollar.........

Yeah...government can't do anything right....

 

[Meathead]

Free? Who's paying for it?

The parents. they pay taxes.

So what's the point? Bloating the government?

Last question, are you ... let's see, I think they call it intellectually challenged these days?

 

[esalla]

Free? Who's paying for it?

The parents. they pay taxes.

How about they keep that tax money and use it to feed their kids......you know, cut out the government middle man who will take a cut of that tax money and provide crap services with the rest.

At one point in the 90s they did research into how much tax money actually reached the poor people it was intended to help......it was 26 cents on the dollar.........

Yeah...government can't do anything right....

This is step 1 to everyone being fed by the government

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

So what's the point? Bloating the government?

To make sure all the children are fed, not just some or most. You really couldn't puzzle that out?

 

[esalla]

So what's the point? Bloating the government?

To make sure all the children are fed, not just some or most. You really couldn't puzzle that out?

Parents are supposed to choose a childs food, not the government that allows tobacco, and aspartame and sucralose. Besides the kids who eat right at home then eat again will get fat