Scientists admit it's about politics, not science.

[SwimExpert]

Critics faced near-certain retribution: They had trouble getting papers published, lost research grants and were frozen out of expert panels.

[...]

"For a generation, research...has been more political than scientific," lamented George Mann, a professor of biochemistry and prominent expert throughout the 1970s. He himself had been warned by a secretary at the National Institutes of Health that if he kept up his sustained criticism of the low-fat diet, he would lose his research grant, which he did.

It's the grant money, stupid.

Time to stop outsourcing your brain.

 

[Mad Scientist]

It's always about the money. Well, 99.99% of the time it is.

Just follow the money and you'll find both the Motive and the Perpetrators.

 

[skookerasbil]

Like Ive been saying forever.......with all this AGW nonsense, its always been about one thing: follow the $$$!!!


Only the AGW purists are stoopid enough to think there are no special interests related to climate science.

That's why I love this forum.....my whole life Ive gotten a hoot out of making fun of social oddballs and/or people obsessed with "causes".. Most have both in common. On this forum, Old Rocks is the only exception.......the rest are OCD AND socially odd.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Critics faced near-certain retribution: They had trouble getting papers published, lost research grants and were frozen out of expert panels.

[...]

"For a generation, research...has been more political than scientific," lamented George Mann, a professor of biochemistry and prominent expert throughout the 1970s. He himself had been warned by a secretary at the National Institutes of Health that if he kept up his sustained criticism of the low-fat diet, he would lose his research grant, which he did.

It's the grant money, stupid.

Time to stop outsourcing your brain.

WWHHAATT!?!?!?


Are you saying that 10 years, when I claimed that scientist are in it for the money and will LIE to get it.

I was right?

And that all the leftist that said there's no way.

Where full of shit?




quell surprise that humans, even scientist are greedy

 

[LiberalMedia]

Critics faced near-certain retribution: They had trouble getting papers published, lost research grants and were frozen out of expert panels.

[...]

"For a generation, research...has been more political than scientific," lamented George Mann, a professor of biochemistry and prominent expert throughout the 1970s. He himself had been warned by a secretary at the National Institutes of Health that if he kept up his sustained criticism of the low-fat diet, he would lose his research grant, which he did.

It's the grant money, stupid.

Time to stop outsourcing your brain.

Notice how it's never the scientists proving the existence of global warming or evolution that say these things. Instead, the charges come from manpigs who reject global warming, believe in creationism and other cult fantasies, and think that "race" even exists and that there are differences between them. When said manpigs get their funding cut because a) they're out to prove something that cannot be proven (their bigoted worldview) and b) they're unabashed racists, they get butthurt and throw a hissy fit over it, which gets lapped up by conservatard media outlets.

Scientific research is about science, not politics. The only people that disagree are the ones whose opinions are not supported by neutral, unbiased research practices. Deal with it.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Critics faced near-certain retribution: They had trouble getting papers published, lost research grants and were frozen out of expert panels.

[...]

"For a generation, research...has been more political than scientific," lamented George Mann, a professor of biochemistry and prominent expert throughout the 1970s. He himself had been warned by a secretary at the National Institutes of Health that if he kept up his sustained criticism of the low-fat diet, he would lose his research grant, which he did.

It's the grant money, stupid.

Time to stop outsourcing your brain.

Notice how it's never the scientists proving the existence of global warming or evolution that say these things. Instead, the charges come from manpigs who reject global warming, believe in creationism and other cult fantasies, and think that "race" even exists and that there are differences between them. When said manpigs get their funding cut because a) they're out to prove something that cannot be proven (their bigoted worldview) and b) they're unabashed racists, they get butthurt and throw a hissy fit over it, which gets lapped up by conservatard media outlets.

Scientific research is about science, not politics. The only people that disagree are the ones whose opinions are not supported by neutral, unbiased research practices. Deal with it.

Oh look, its a libtard citing religion and using his own for justification.. Gawd alarmist are so disingenuous.. Cliamtegate revealed just how the Charltons were doing their control and manipulation and liberals either support the criminal behavior due to their failed religion or they are complicit in the scam to control and defraud the populace..

Which are you?

 

[Crick]

Critics faced near-certain retribution: They had trouble getting papers published, lost research grants and were frozen out of expert panels.

[...]

"For a generation, research...has been more political than scientific," lamented George Mann, a professor of biochemistry and prominent expert throughout the 1970s. He himself had been warned by a secretary at the National Institutes of Health that if he kept up his sustained criticism of the low-fat diet, he would lose his research grant, which he did.

It's the grant money, stupid.

Time to stop outsourcing your brain.

Swimmie! You're back? Still exceptional?

 

[jc456]

Critics faced near-certain retribution: They had trouble getting papers published, lost research grants and were frozen out of expert panels.

[...]

"For a generation, research...has been more political than scientific," lamented George Mann, a professor of biochemistry and prominent expert throughout the 1970s. He himself had been warned by a secretary at the National Institutes of Health that if he kept up his sustained criticism of the low-fat diet, he would lose his research grant, which he did.

It's the grant money, stupid.

Time to stop outsourcing your brain.

Notice how it's never the scientists proving the existence of global warming or evolution that say these things. Instead, the charges come from manpigs who reject global warming, believe in creationism and other cult fantasies, and think that "race" even exists and that there are differences between them. When said manpigs get their funding cut because a) they're out to prove something that cannot be proven (their bigoted worldview) and b) they're unabashed racists, they get butthurt and throw a hissy fit over it, which gets lapped up by conservatard media outlets.

Scientific research is about science, not politics. The only people that disagree are the ones whose opinions are not supported by neutral, unbiased research practices. Deal with it.

holy crap, what a load of crap! I hope you have some towels to wipe yourself off after that post. What a hoot!

 

[flacaltenn]

Critics faced near-certain retribution: They had trouble getting papers published, lost research grants and were frozen out of expert panels.

[...]

"For a generation, research...has been more political than scientific," lamented George Mann, a professor of biochemistry and prominent expert throughout the 1970s. He himself had been warned by a secretary at the National Institutes of Health that if he kept up his sustained criticism of the low-fat diet, he would lose his research grant, which he did.

It's the grant money, stupid.

Time to stop outsourcing your brain.

Notice how it's never the scientists proving the existence of global warming or evolution that say these things. Instead, the charges come from manpigs who reject global warming, believe in creationism and other cult fantasies, and think that "race" even exists and that there are differences between them. When said manpigs get their funding cut because a) they're out to prove something that cannot be proven (their bigoted worldview) and b) they're unabashed racists, they get butthurt and throw a hissy fit over it, which gets lapped up by conservatard media outlets.

Scientific research is about science, not politics. The only people that disagree are the ones whose opinions are not supported by neutral, unbiased research practices. Deal with it.

Its that "butt hurt hissy fit" that impresses you leftists. Scares ya doesnt it -- that manpigs can outperform you on media drama..

 

[SwimExpert]

Notice how it's never the scientists proving the existence of global warming or evolution that say these things. Instead, the charges come from manpigs who reject global warming, believe in creationism and other cult fantasies

I'm sorry, did you have a point you were trying to make? Or are you simply here to restate my OP? Yes, it's never people doing research to "prove" AGW who complain about having their funding cut off for political reasons. That's because their funding is being sustained for political reasons.

 

[Crick]

Or because politics has nothing to do with it.

Just exactly what do you mean when you say their funding is being maintained for political reasons?

1) That funding climate research benefits political careers?
2) That politicians fund researchers whose political positions they find agreeable?
3) That climate research is being funded because it's findings support a political goal?
4) Something else?

 

[mamooth]

Deniers, just because you can't imagine being ethical, don't assume any other people share your moral failings. All you're doing here is showing everyone how you think everyone must be just like yourselves, willing to sell out your integrity for a buck.

Rest assured, the world is not like what you want it to be. Any of those AGW scientists could instantly double their salary by switching sides, but they don't. They take a pay cut so they can do honest science, and that gives them added credibility.

 

[SwimExpert]

Deniers, just because you can't imagine being ethical, don't assume any other people share your moral failings.

That's a religious argument.

 

[Crick]

That's because their ["people doing research to "prove" AGW"] funding is being sustained for political reasons.

What political reasons?

 

[flacaltenn]

That's because their ["people doing research to "prove" AGW"] funding is being sustained for political reasons.

What political reasons?

Every POLITICAL reason that the UN has to sway it's political IPCC products. Social Justice, Women's Rights, Environmental Justice, Economic Redistribution, Food security, --- ALL of those issues have GW connections in the minds of the clowns running that circus. Every Climate Change conference ends up being a festival of begging and whining.. Sorry you don't see that. You believe those events are science fairs.. They are not.. That's NOT why they exist..

 

[Vigilante]

Notice how it's never the scientists proving the existence of global warming or evolution that say these things. Instead, the charges come from manpigs who reject global warming, believe in creationism and other cult fantasies, and think that "race" even exists and that there are differences between them. When said manpigs get their funding cut because a) they're out to prove something that cannot be proven (their bigoted worldview) and b) they're unabashed racists, they get butthurt and throw a hissy fit over it, which gets lapped up by conservatard media outlets.

Scientific research is about science, not politics. The only people that disagree are the ones whose opinions are not supported by neutral, unbiased research practices. Deal with it.

XXXXXX - Excessive profanity --- FlaCalTenn

What science degree does Algoore have again.......

 

[SwimExpert]

Every POLITICAL reason that the UN has to sway it's political IPCC products. Social Justice, Women's Rights, Environmental Justice, Economic Redistribution, Food security, --- ALL of those issues have GW connections in the minds of the clowns running that circus. Every Climate Change conference ends up being a festival of begging and whining.. Sorry you don't see that. You believe those events are science fairs.. They are not.. That's NOT why they exist..

It really boggles my mind that none of the AGW cultists can recognize that modern day global warming "theory" is precisely the same as miracle cure quacks of the 19th century.

Step right up and get your supply of Man-Made Global WarmingTM and prepare to be AMAZED at what it can do for you. It will cure world hunger. It will end all poverty. It will even eliminate gender disparity and those hectic rush-hour traffic jams. All you need to do is swallow one great big dose and just watch as all the world's social problems disappear!!

 

[skookerasbil]

One thing you will find.......invariably, the AGW crowd has thought processing ability of a small soap dish. How do you navigate life and miss THAT MANY memo's? These people are highly intelligent........but the thought processes ( no relation to IQ ) is beyond fucked. Read their posts.......for example, they honestly believe that renewable energy is on the precipice of meeting all of our energy needs.


IDK....too much funny smoked during adolescence? Toxic levels of mercury? Zero seretonin uptake?

 

[Crick]

That's because their ["people doing research to "prove" AGW"] funding is being sustained for political reasons.

What political reasons?

Every POLITICAL reason that the UN has to sway it's political IPCC products. Social Justice, Women's Rights, Environmental Justice, Economic Redistribution, Food security, --- ALL of those issues have GW connections in the minds of the clowns running that circus. Every Climate Change conference ends up being a festival of begging and whining.. Sorry you don't see that. You believe those events are science fairs.. They are not.. That's NOT why they exist..

The UN funds very little research. Governments fund research. Private foundations fund research. Not the UN.

Mitigating the effects of AGW may well affect other issues, though I doubt with any significance. It will reduce pollution. It will open up new fields of technology. Moneys will be spent doing infrastructure improvement and replacement (smart power grids, alternative energy construction, coastal structure to deal with rising sea levels, battery development, electric vehicles, next generation nuclear power, mass transit systems; none of which are a waste, all of which would improve human culture and life on Earth with or without an AGW problem. And yes, it will cost money. No such thing as a free lunch. But if it can be done in time and with sufficient commitment, it will save enormous amounts of money. It is ALWAYS cheaper to prevent problems than to deal with the damage they do.