School Punishes Boy for Opposing Homosexuality

[yidnar]

there are many ways of being prejudice.

Insisting a particular country can NEVER be wrong is one of them.

Calling people names and saying they are stupid for pointing this out to you is also a kind of prejudice

I agree that it is wrong to call Christians names like bible huggers !! and I agree it is wrong to criticize Christians and call them stupid for not believing homosexuality is normal !!

 

[Samson]

It does sound like the constant talk about homosexuality agitated the students, till one kid finally told the Teacher he is wrong.

What the **** does any discussion about Queers have to do about learning to speak German?

I thought rugmunchers and fudgepackers had a universal language for getting their point across to each other.

sombodys homophobic!

Sombody's Retarded.

 

[daws101]

What the **** does any discussion about Queers have to do about learning to speak German?

I thought rugmunchers and fudgepackers had a universal language for getting their point across to each other.

sombodys homophobic!

Sombody's Retarded.

and it's you.....
the guy in your avatar pic looks kind light in the loafers....

 

[Tank]

As long as it is forbidden by the school to discuss gays then he was out of line.

It's not "forbidden", just like most homosexuals this Teacher wouldn't stop trying to promote homosexuality to the kids.

If it isn't forbidden, all the more reason to discipline the child for mouthing off.

What the child did is not "forbidden" either.

This all would have never happened if the Teacher wouldn't have kept prodding the children about homosexuality.

 

[daws101]

It's not "forbidden", just like most homosexuals this Teacher wouldn't stop trying to promote homosexuality to the kids.

If it isn't forbidden, all the more reason to discipline the child for mouthing off.

What the child did is not "forbidden" either.

This all would have never happened if the Teacher wouldn't have kept prodding the children about homosexuality.

they're teenagers...thinking about sexuality any kind of sexuality is always on their minds...my guess is that our hero was calling sombody a ***.....long before the teacher brought it up.

 

[Zoom-boing]

The school district would not comment on why a teacher was discussing homosexuality in a ninth grade German class.

why are we suspending the kid alone in this issue? The teacher needs to get a suspension of his own...speaking about any sexual issue in a FOREIGN LANGUAGE CLASS is not the appropriate time or place. The place for discussion on sexual issues is in a SEX ED class...and he wasn't the appropriate teacher for that. If this student simply expressed his opinion that it is wrong then the school district and the teacher both need a hard smack upside the head. I would raise hell if I knew that SEX ED was being taught in my kid's German language class.

Wrong. Sex can be discussed/taught in a sex ed class (puberty, reproduction, biological stuff, birth control, diseases), not sexuality. Two different things.

What the **** does any discussion about Queers have to do about learning to speak German?

I thought rugmunchers and fudgepackers had a universal language for getting their point across to each other.

It has zero to do with learning to speak German and the topic of any sexuality in any classroom doesn't belong. Period.

I notice that not many left leaning peeps seem to have a problem with what the teacher did . . . . .

Really? Did you miss where I said that IMO the teacher was also wrong?

As long as it is forbidden by the school to discuss gays then he was out of line.

Did you miss where I said "many left leaning peeps" and not "all"? Guess so.

Lesson learned: if you get in trouble at school, threaten to sue.

Ah, Republicans.

Nope. But if they punish you for freedom of speech? Yep.

If it isn't forbidden, all the more reason to discipline the child for mouthing off.

What the child did is not "forbidden" either.

This all would have never happened if the Teacher wouldn't have kept prodding the children about homosexuality.

they're teenagers...thinking about sexuality any kind of sexuality is always on their minds...my guess is that our hero was calling sombody a ***.....long before the teacher brought it up.

No it isn't, sex is always on their minds.

 

[Ravi]

I know lots of teachers. I also have a cousin that tried to sue the school and lost. The teacher actually lied in court, probably to keep her job.

The only time the schools settle out of court is when they know they are going to lose the case.

I used to be a community liason for PAVE (Parents are Vital in Education). I know what I'm talking about.

Pardon me for doubting you, but I do. I know teachers, and their number on aggravation, after NCLB, is little Johnnie's parent's butthurt that their angel got disciplined.

No problem, you believe your teacher friends, I'll believe the actual cases.

lulz, what actual cases?

 

[The Gadfly]

it is wrong to try and bully your fellow class mates.

Should a student be sent to the principle for saying christians are mentally ill and should have laws imposed against them?

no.

 

[Xchel]

actually sexuality is also taught in sex ed class, guess it sort of depends on the school district what their curriculum is.

 

[Againsheila]

Pardon me for doubting you, but I do. I know teachers, and their number on aggravation, after NCLB, is little Johnnie's parent's butthurt that their angel got disciplined.

No problem, you believe your teacher friends, I'll believe the actual cases.

lulz, what actual cases?

The one where the autistic kid was abused by the aid. The one where the special needs child was removed from the remedial class and put in general ed...the one where as a goal on the IEP, the teacher put that the special needs child would "cross the street successfully 80% of the time"...etc. etc. etc.

No joke, these are real cases. The only one that was successful was settled out of court was the autistic kid that was abused by the aid. After the parents demanded the aid be fired, the school district reported the parents to CPS. Thank God they had their own police report and my notes of the meeting with the school district.

Then there are the cases personal to me and my children. I mentioned those before...

Are there good teachers? Yes, some of them are worth their weight in gold, they should be cloned. Then there are the ones that should be fired immediately and prevented from ever being around children again.

My niece is a teacher, my cousin is a teacher, my friend is a teacher. I know their trials and tribulations....I also know that the good teachers are few and far between, at least in our school district.

 

[daws101]

The school district would not comment on why a teacher was discussing homosexuality in a ninth grade German class.

why are we suspending the kid alone in this issue? The teacher needs to get a suspension of his own...speaking about any sexual issue in a FOREIGN LANGUAGE CLASS is not the appropriate time or place. The place for discussion on sexual issues is in a SEX ED class...and he wasn't the appropriate teacher for that. If this student simply expressed his opinion that it is wrong then the school district and the teacher both need a hard smack upside the head. I would raise hell if I knew that SEX ED was being taught in my kid's German language class.

Wrong. Sex can be discussed/taught in a sex ed class (puberty, reproduction, biological stuff, birth control, diseases), not sexuality. Two different things.




Did you miss where I said "many left leaning peeps" and not "all"? Guess so.




Nope. But if they punish you for freedom of speech? Yep.

What the child did is not "forbidden" either.

This all would have never happened if the Teacher wouldn't have kept prodding the children about homosexuality.

they're teenagers...thinking about sexuality any kind of sexuality is always on their minds...my guess is that our hero was calling sombody a ***.....long before the teacher brought it up.

No it isn't, sex is always on their minds.

they are one in the same.

 

[Sunshine]

Why are so many people automatically taking this kid's word for it that he expressed his opinion in a respectful and non-disruptive manner? I know that if I made a crack about queers when I was in school, keeping it respectful would be the last thing on my mind.

The school has restored this student to his previous status (according to the article):

After a meeting with Pope and her attorney, the school rescinded the two-day suspension so Dakota would be allowed to play in an upcoming football game.

“They’ve righted all the wrongs,” said Matt Krause, an attorney with the Liberty Counsel. “This should have no lasting effect on his academic or personal record going forward.”



Read more: Texas School Punishes Boy For Opposing Homosexuality | Fox News

I suspect they've had trouble with this teacher before.

 

[Cecilie1200]

For those who don't see anything wrong with the kid getting punished for expressing his opinion . . .

If the teacher had been a KKK member, put up a pic of some hooded KKK members, threw positive comments out about the KKK in class and this kid turned around and told his classmate that he disapproved of the KKK because he thought it was wrong and subsequently got punished for saying such, what would your reaction be?

Mine would be exactly the same as it is for the kid expressing his disapproval of homosexuality. It isn't the subject matter that's the controversy here (well, it is on the teacher's end) but the fact that this kid got punished for expressing/voicing his opinion.

Let's bring it even closer to home. Let's say the teacher was a militant Christian, and made a habit of talking about how homosexuality was wrong and a sin, and posted pictures of people protesting gay marriage, with approving words about them. Let's say that as the teacher was leading a class discussion on how some countries still imprison and execute gays, a student turned to his friend and said, "I think homosexuality is okay and they should have rights", and the teacher overheard it and had the kid punished.

Would the kid still be viewed as a disruptive little punk being disrespectful of his teacher, or would he NOW be a shining hero, whose First Amendment rights the left was vociferously defending, simply because NOW he's saying something they agree with?

Here's a hint, leftist retards: if you think the kid shouldn't be punished in the example (and if you're at all honest with yourselves, you WOULD think he shouldn't be punished), then he shouldn't be punished when he says things you don't like. Rights apply to everyone, or they aren't really rights.

 

[Sunshine]

It is wrong to try and bully your fellow class mates.

Should a student be sent to the principle for saying christians are mentally ill and should have laws imposed against them?

Where does it say he 'bullied' anyone?

 

[daws101]

For those who don't see anything wrong with the kid getting punished for expressing his opinion . . .

If the teacher had been a KKK member, put up a pic of some hooded KKK members, threw positive comments out about the KKK in class and this kid turned around and told his classmate that he disapproved of the KKK because he thought it was wrong and subsequently got punished for saying such, what would your reaction be?

Mine would be exactly the same as it is for the kid expressing his disapproval of homosexuality. It isn't the subject matter that's the controversy here (well, it is on the teacher's end) but the fact that this kid got punished for expressing/voicing his opinion.

Let's bring it even closer to home. Let's say the teacher was a militant Christian, and made a habit of talking about how homosexuality was wrong and a sin, and posted pictures of people protesting gay marriage, with approving words about them. Let's say that as the teacher was leading a class discussion on how some countries still imprison and execute gays, a student turned to his friend and said, "I think homosexuality is okay and they should have rights", and the teacher overheard it and had the kid punished.

Would the kid still be viewed as a disruptive little punk being disrespectful of his teacher, or would he NOW be a shining hero, whose First Amendment rights the left was vociferously defending, simply because NOW he's saying something they agree with?

Here's a hint, leftist retards: if you think the kid shouldn't be punished in the example (and if you're at all honest with yourselves, you WOULD think he shouldn't be punished), then he shouldn't be punished when he says things you don't like. Rights apply to everyone, or they aren't really rights.

sure OK....in reality this is a tempest in a tea pot ..
his 1st amendment rights in this case are meaningless. why? because kids have no rights that are not 1st approved of by their parents and society in general. they can't vote,drink, drive,make deals with adults etc..
all this noise about his faith and 1st amendment rights are smoke and mirrors.
the kid disrupted class,depriving all the other kids to their right to learn without distraction.
he was punished, IMO a little harshly .
I would have, as his teacher disregarded his comment or sent him to detention for a few hours after school.

 

[Tank]

I hope all kids learn from this and in the future when another homosexual teacher tries to push his/her homosexual agenda on the children, they tell the teacher that homosexuality is wrong.

 

[daws101]

I hope all kids learn from this and in the future when another homosexual teacher tries to push his/her homosexual agenda on the children, they tell the teacher that homosexuality is wrong.

where's you proof the teacher was gay?
are you a reporter from fox?

 

[Ravi]

According to this website, there is another side of the story. And yes, it's a gay website so there might be some bias there. And no, I doubt you'll turn gay if you click on the link.

On the particular day in which this incident occurred, Mr. Franks was opening class when the topic of Christianity in Germany was broached by one student, who asked what churches were there, another whether they read the Bible in English, etc. Franks asserts that the topic of homosexuality was not broached in any way, and that Ary‘s assertions to the contrary are entirely false. At this point, Ary declared, with a class audience, “Gays can’t be Christians; homosexuality is wrong,” looking directly at Mr. Franks.

Franks says he understands and affirms students’ right to free speech, and that he is perfectly prepared to lead a respectful discussion on topics such as gay rights that allows for the assertion of opinions with which he disagrees. He has led such discussion in the past in his sociology classes. But in this case, hr feels the context makes it clear that this remark was made ad hominem, aimed specifically at him to devalue him and any information he might share on the topic of religion, on the basis of his perceived sexual orientation.

New Details Call 'Homosexuality Is Wrong' Student's Story Into Question |Gay News|Gay Blog Towleroad

 

[Tank]

New Details Call 'Homosexuality Is Wrong' Student's Story Into Question |Gay News|Gay Blog Towleroad

That site is like the stormfront of homosexuality.

 

[Ravi]

New Details Call 'Homosexuality Is Wrong' Student's Story Into Question |Gay News|Gay Blog Towleroad

That site is like the stormfront of homosexuality.

You'd know.