Scary Hillary

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I am at an absolute loss why folks that used to support Bernie would ever think to support Hillary.

She is bellicose and her connections to the Military-industrial-complex run deep. International leaders see it, Wall Street knows it, unfortunately, it seems most of the TV watching, radio listening public doesn't seem to be informed about it.

Bernie supports certainly don't seem to give a shit. Of course, I never thought they did in the first place.

A vote for Hillary Clinton is a vote for war with Russia, China, others
Her foreign policy is skewed
A vote for Hillary Clinton: War with Russia, China, others

Her bellicose, jingoistic foreign policy views bugled in a speech before the American Legion on August 31, 2016 confirms that her presidency would bow to Mars (the God of War), not to Minerva (the Goddess of Wisdom).

Mrs. Clinton sermonized that America is an “exceptional” and “indispensable” nation; that “[p]eople all over the world look to us and follow our lead;” and, that when we fail in our providential role to lead, “we leave a vacuum that either causes chaos or other countries or networks rush in to fill the void.” In other words, the United States must conquer the world to avoid chaos wherever we are not; or, even worse, the exercise of power outside our control.

Mrs. Clinton must be incredulous that the world survived for thousands of years without falling into chaos before the birth of the United States in 1776, and produced giants like Socrates, Aristotle, and Plato and marvels like the Parthenon, the Hanging Gardens of Babylon, and the Great Wall of China without United States assistance. And does she really want other countries to follow our lead in endowing the Executive with limitless power to go to war and to play prosecutor, judge, jury, and executioner to kill any person suspected of threatening national security based on secret evidence?

Hillary Clinton’s National Security Advisers Are a “Who’s Who” of the Warfare State
Hillary Clinton’s National Security Advisers Are a “Who’s Who” of the Warfare State

It includes Gen. David Petraeus, the major architect of the 2007 Iraq War troop surge, which brought 30,000 more troops to Iraq. Picking him indicates at partiality to combative ideology. It also represents a return to good standing for the general after he pled guilty to leaking notebooks full of classified information to his lover, Paula Broadwell, and got off with two years of probation and a fine. Petraeus currently works at the investment firm KKR & Co.

Another notable member of Clinton’s group is Michael Chertoff, a hardliner who served as President George W. Bush’s last secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, and who since leaving government in 2009 has helmed a corporate consulting firm called the Chertoff Group that promotes security-industry priorities. For example, in 2010, he gave dozens of media interviews touting full-body scanners at airports while his firm was employed by a company that produced body scanning machines. His firm also employs a number of other ex-security state officials, such as former CIA and NSA Director Michael Hayden. It does not disclose a complete list of its clients — all of whom now have a line of access to Clinton.

Many others on the list are open advocates of military escalation overseas. Mike Morrell, the former acting director of the CIA, endorsed Clinton last month in a New York Times opinion piece that accused Trump of being an “unwitting agent of the Russian Federation.” The Times was criticized for not disclosing his current employment by Beacon Global Strategies, a politically powerful national-security consulting firm with strong links to Clinton. Three days later, Morell told Charlie Rose in a PBS interview that the CIA should actively assassinate Russians and Iranians in Syria. . . .

Incidentally, my money was on Ted Cruz to win the nomination. Chad C. Sweet co-founded the Chertoff Group and he was running Cruz's campaign. This is how close all the pols. and their bureaucrats are to the Deep State. I'm thinking Trump put a wrench in the monkey works. :badgrin:
 
I cant believe Hillary supporters still support Hillary after she adopted the socialists policies that were not "realistic" a week before..
 
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She looks like a genuine lunatic right there
 
Putin blows in Boris Trumps ear and the honeymoon begins.
 
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She looks like a genuine lunatic right there
And can't fill a high school gymnasium.

I think that is by design, not so much by mistake. I could be wrong though.

Her FB channel and YouTube channel either have no traffic, or attract a lot of detractors.

OTH, there are a lot of sycophants at places like HuffPo, NYT, TYT, MotherJones, etc.
 
I am at an absolute loss why folks that used to support Bernie would ever think to support Hillary.

She is bellicose and her connections to the Military-industrial-complex run deep. International leaders see it, Wall Street knows it, unfortunately, it seems most of the TV watching, radio listening public doesn't seem to be informed about it.

Bernie supports certainly don't seem to give a shit. Of course, I never thought they did in the first place.

A vote for Hillary Clinton is a vote for war with Russia, China, others
Her foreign policy is skewed
A vote for Hillary Clinton: War with Russia, China, others

Her bellicose, jingoistic foreign policy views bugled in a speech before the American Legion on August 31, 2016 confirms that her presidency would bow to Mars (the God of War), not to Minerva (the Goddess of Wisdom).

Mrs. Clinton sermonized that America is an “exceptional” and “indispensable” nation; that “[p]eople all over the world look to us and follow our lead;” and, that when we fail in our providential role to lead, “we leave a vacuum that either causes chaos or other countries or networks rush in to fill the void.” In other words, the United States must conquer the world to avoid chaos wherever we are not; or, even worse, the exercise of power outside our control.

Mrs. Clinton must be incredulous that the world survived for thousands of years without falling into chaos before the birth of the United States in 1776, and produced giants like Socrates, Aristotle, and Plato and marvels like the Parthenon, the Hanging Gardens of Babylon, and the Great Wall of China without United States assistance. And does she really want other countries to follow our lead in endowing the Executive with limitless power to go to war and to play prosecutor, judge, jury, and executioner to kill any person suspected of threatening national security based on secret evidence?

Hillary Clinton’s National Security Advisers Are a “Who’s Who” of the Warfare State

Hillary Clinton’s National Security Advisers Are a “Who’s Who” of the Warfare State

It includes Gen. David Petraeus, the major architect of the 2007 Iraq War troop surge, which brought 30,000 more troops to Iraq. Picking him indicates at partiality to combative ideology. It also represents a return to good standing for the general after he pled guilty to leaking notebooks full of classified information to his lover, Paula Broadwell, and got off with two years of probation and a fine. Petraeus currently works at the investment firm KKR & Co.

Another notable member of Clinton’s group is Michael Chertoff, a hardliner who served as President George W. Bush’s last secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, and who since leaving government in 2009 has helmed a corporate consulting firm called the Chertoff Group that promotes security-industry priorities. For example, in 2010, he gave dozens of media interviews touting full-body scanners at airports while his firm was employed by a company that produced body scanning machines. His firm also employs a number of other ex-security state officials, such as former CIA and NSA Director Michael Hayden. It does not disclose a complete list of its clients — all of whom now have a line of access to Clinton.

Many others on the list are open advocates of military escalation overseas. Mike Morrell, the former acting director of the CIA, endorsed Clinton last month in a New York Times opinion piece that accused Trump of being an “unwitting agent of the Russian Federation.” The Times was criticized for not disclosing his current employment by Beacon Global Strategies, a politically powerful national-security consulting firm with strong links to Clinton. Three days later, Morell told Charlie Rose in a PBS interview that the CIA should actively assassinate Russians and Iranians in Syria. . . .

Incidentally, my money was on Ted Cruz to win the nomination. Chad C. Sweet co-founded the Chertoff Group and he was running Cruz's campaign. This is how close all the pols. and their bureaucrats are to the Deep State. I'm thinking Trump put a wrench in the monkey works. :badgrin:

The cited author says:

"In other words, the United States must conquer the world to avoid chaos wherever we are not; or, even worse, the exercise of power outside our control."

And:

"According to Mrs. Clinton, the United States cannot sit idly by if the world balks at accommodating our interests. While the interests of all nations are equal, Mrs. Clinton clucks, our interests are more equal than all the others. We thus have a responsibility to employ our “unique and unparalleled ability to be a force for peace and progress, a champion for freedom and opportunity” to make all nations subservient to us."

In both cases, he editorialized without substantiating his claim. The use of the phrase "In other words" should be a red flag for you.

She's more likely to get the US involved in the affairs of other sovereign nations than Gary Johnson is....but she is far less likely to do so than Donald Trump is....in my opinion.

Regarding Sanders.........he has voted for interventionist policies on the past and he has endorsed Clinton. That line of argument fails.
 

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