Say What You Will it would be inappropriate.....

Check your privilege.

If you want to vote, you'll secure what you need to be able to do so.

If it's not important enough for you to put in the effort, you won't get to vote (and don't deserve to).

There are always strange one-offs. I got held up on an international trip and had to miss voting one year. I didn't blame anyone or anything.
 
The poor and indigent seem more than capable of getting photo ID when they want to apply for food stamps or welfare or rent an apartment or go to work or open a bank account or whatever. So far I haven't met a soul who wanted to vote who couldn't get a photo ID. Some pretend they don't have them because they're wanted somewhere and they don't want anybody to know who they are.

Wow, seriously, are you this fucking clueless? "Gee, nobody I know is too poor to get an ID, so it must not be happening!!!"
 
If you want to vote, you'll secure what you need to be able to do so.

If it's not important enough for you to put in the effort, you won't get to vote (and don't deserve to).

There are always strange one-offs. I got held up on an international trip and had to miss voting one year. I didn't blame anyone or anything.

Why should someone jump through hoops to exercise their rights?
 
Why should someone jump through hoops to exercise their rights?

I forget you guys don't understand the concept of work or effort.

I also realize that you see it as unfair that everything isn't as easy as calling domino's to get what you want.

But voting really doesn't mean that much to you.

After all, your side is all about negating all the primaries and putting up a "better" (and I use that term loosely) candidate in November.
 
I forget you guys don't understand the concept of work or effort.

I also realize that you see it as unfair that everything isn't as easy as calling domino's to get what you want.

But voting really doesn't mean that much to you.

After all, your side is all about negating all the primaries and putting up a "better" (and I use that term loosely) candidate in November.

Well, if it happens. I supposed you'd keep Biden on the ballot if he keeled over and died, that would be about the only way Trump could win.

The primaries didn't elect Biden. The primaries chose delegates. Those delegates are supposed to have some latitude based on the situation.

Also, thanks for admitting that Voter ID is to keep "those people" from voting. Most of your peers lack that kind of honesty.
 
Well, if it happens. I supposed you'd keep Biden on the ballot if he keeled over and died, that would be about the only way Trump could win.

See you in November.
The primaries didn't elect Biden. The primaries chose delegates. Those delegates are supposed to have some latitude based on the situation.

Sure, go ahead and try. I'd love to see that little dramafest.
Also, thanks for admitting that Voter ID is to keep "those people" from voting. Most of your peers lack that kind of honesty.

Make stuff up much.

Whoever "those people" are, I don't care. All I do care about is that not making it to easy to cheat.
 
Probably less than most people and definitely less than a party of "Family values" that elects a rapist and adulterer.

You need to find a new narrative. This one gets old. I didn't hear "family values" discussed in the debate. Also, you have no proof in either of your claims. You were not there. Spare me the moron judge who has no clue to perform his duties. He must be related to you.
 
Sure, go ahead and try. I'd love to see that little dramafest.

be careful what you wish for. If the only thing keeping Trump from winning is concerns about Biden's age, a younger man would be the worst thing that could happen.

Make stuff up much.

Whoever "those people" are, I don't care. All I do care about is that not making it to easy to cheat.

Except according to Pence and Barr, there was no cheating.

You need to find a new narrative. This one gets old. I didn't hear "family values" discussed in the debate. Also, you have no proof in either of your claims. You were not there. Spare me the moron judge who has no clue to perform his duties. He must be related to you.

Sure it was... every time you fools try to ban abortion or gay marriage.

There was plenty of proof offered. Trump didn't testify to the contrary, and didn't produce any witnesses to dispute the facts.
 
25th Amendment: How do we decide whether the president is competent? | Brookings

Section 4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President. [Emphasis added.]

Democrats don't care about the 25th if it affects a Democrat POTUS. See Eleanor Roosevelt and Edith Wilson.
 
Actually, it is if you are poor and you move around a lot.

First, you have to take day off of work to do it. Not everyone has the ability to do that.

Then you have to prove residency. Kind of hard if you aren't the household member paying the bills.

Then you have states like IL, where they've completely made a mess of the DMV. It took me a month to get my wife's ID updated after we got married last year. First, we had to get a bill with her new address on it. Then we had to make an appointment, and because of the goofy system they are using, you have to book that two weeks in advance and not even at a place in your community.
Life's tough....Deal with it.
 
When you know poor people are less likely to have ID, then it most certainly is.

Everyone should be allowed to vote, whether they are poor or not.

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be careful what you wish for. If the only thing keeping Trump from winning is concerns about Biden's age, a younger man would be the worst thing that could happen.
I think I said that....don't read well, do you.
ept according to Pence and Barr, there was no cheating.

Yeah, the E.F. Huttons of politics.

Sure it was... every time you fools try to ban abortion or gay marriage.

I said "in the debate". Don't read to well, do you ?

There was plenty of proof offered. Trump didn't testify to the contrary, and didn't produce any witnesses to dispute the facts.

That's not proof. It's evidence and circumstantial at best. Easily explained by the fact that Trump thought (and probably rightly so) he was being railroaded by a kangaroo court.

See you in November.
 
Say what you like it would be inappropriate for Biden to declare today or tomorrow he is stepping aside. A brave act such as that needs careful planning for all concerned. This cannot be taken lightly. After watching him today there was plenty of fire in his belly.

Presidential debates are worthless and not a great source of information for voters to make any decision........ leave it at that.

Six things come to mind:
Never do another Presidential Debate
Kill the Electoral College
Kill United We Stand
Go after the group or groups pushing voter suppression right now
Put The Supreme Court on leave until further notice without pay
Put Trump behind bars former President or not!!!!!!
Well komrade, you said what you like and clearly you are a fascist who would suspend our Constitution and replace it and our form of government with a one only political party rule.

Six fallacies of you post and their fixes come to mind:

1) Presidential debates need to be more neutral in host and moderation and candidates should have prior review of the questions/topics. No more blindsided "gotchya".
2) Revise the Electoral College so that each State should allocate by proportion of voter's choices.
3) Kill AntiFa, BLM, SPLC, Move On, People's Action,America Bridge 21st Century, Sierra Club, United we Dream, People for the American Way,
Progressive Caucus, Media Matters, Our Revolution, Service Employees International Union, Equality PAC, Planned Parenthood,, and scores more *
4) Go after groups pushing non-citzen and illegal voters be allowed to cast ballots
5) Consider term limit or age limit for US Supreme Court
6) Put Biden and Obama behind bars for treason and aiding and abetting USA enemies, especially Iran and Islamic Jihad.

FYI - Dufus; that "gate" can swing the other way.
Be careful what you wish for.

* List of major USA PACs;
 
When you know poor people are less likely to have ID, then it most certainly is.

Everyone should be allowed to vote, whether they are poor or not.
Bullshit dufus!
They need ID to collect Welfare.
If too "poor" most States will provide for free.

Try being honest for a change.

Only USA CITIZENS, ID'd as such, should be allowed to vote. Ideally in person (restricted mail-in ballots) at legitimate polling locations.
 
the recent coup in bolivia is instructive of how these things MUST be handled. allowing the coup perpetrators to escape justice, even legalizing "obstruction of justice" for their benefit, is just not conducive to the rule of law,

we are paying dearly for biden's weakness in allowing trump and the others to escape justice. and will continue to pay for this maga folly for generations.
We have and will pay even more dearly for Biden& Obama criminally weaponizing our Justice systems for political persecution purposes and for treason by enabling Iran to access frozen funds and continue it's nuclear weapons development programs.
 
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