Saudi prince: Maybe the Palestinians should’ve taken the deals they were offered

[Billo_Really]

You have clearly not been in a war zone, ever.

In a war zone, people are driven from their homes, they don't leave voluntarily or because someone asks them to.

 

[Sixties Fan]

You have clearly not been in a war zone, ever.

In a war zone, people are driven from their homes, they don't leave voluntarily or because someone asks them to.

I will say it again,

YOU KNOW NOTHING about war zones.

 

[Sixties Fan]

A Palestinian man is interviewed on the official Palestinian Authority television station. He shows a picture of himself as a young man, taken in June 1948 in front of his house. He says that the Arab radio stations repetitively kept telling the Palestinians to leave the frontline for at most two weeks, and then the Arab regimes will bring the Palestinians back to Ein-Kerem, near Jerusalem. The man says they thought two weeks was too long of a time, and now 50 years have gone by. PA TV (Fatah), July 7, 2009.

 

[Sixties Fan]

A Palestinian refugee on official Palestinian Authority television openly ‎contradicts the Palestinian narrative on refugees, which usually places full ‎blame on Israel for Palestinian refugees. In this clip, Sadek Musid states that ‎Arab leaders encouraged Palestinians to leave their homes, promising them ‎that they would return within a week or two.

‎ Transcript:‎
Arab refugee Sadek Mufid: ”We headed first from Dir al-Qasi [northern Israel] ‎to Rmaich [Lebanon], considering what they (Arab leaders) said at the time: ‎‎“By Allah, in a week or two, you will return to Palestine.” The Arab armies ‎entered Palestine, along with the Arab Liberation Army. We left – we and ‎those who fled with us – and we all headed for Lebanon. Some people came ‎to Rmaich and others came to the villages on the border, such as Ein Ibl and ‎also to Bint Jbeil. People scattered. And we have about 11 or 15 [refugee] ‎camps in Lebanon.”‎ ‎[Official Palestinian Authority TV, Feb. 9, 2010]‎

 

[Sixties Fan]

This short film compiles video footage from Arab refugees and their accounts of events that today have been grossly distorted surrounding incidents such as Dier Yassin and the factors that gave birth to the Palestinian refugee problem in 1948.

Anti-Israel activists seek to perpetuate lies in order to fault Israel entirely and claim that Israel has and always had plans to wipe out or expel the Arab population.

 

[Billo_Really]

Israel does have the right to defend its border, which is what the fence is, from anyone trying to invade the country - which is what the Arabs have been trying to do for the past 5 weeks.

IDF footage showing a group of five Palestinian men damage and break through the Gaza security fence, before one of them is shot dead, during a protest in Bureij, in the central Gaza Strip, on April 3, 2018. (Screen capture)


I am sure that the USA has the right to protect its borders with Mexico or Canada, if non Americans try to come into the country for any reason, armed or not. What do you say?

As long as the Arabs stayed "on their side of the fence" being peaceful, that would not be a problem.

So far, the problems have been:

Throwing rocks.

Throwing firebombs.

Allowing kites fly to the Israeli side while lit, so that when they land they will cause fires and damage

Arabs with guns attempting to cross over the fence in order to kidnap soldiers

Causing an environmental nightmare by setting on fire at least 10,000 rubber tires.
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And right in between the two Palestinian flags, is what the Arabs admire the most as an example of how to treat Jews:



Were you able to figure it out?


How do you like the peaceful protests so far?

Looking at your first picture...





...if your so-called security fence is to the right of those men, then they are still in Gaza. And if that is the fence you say is damaged, where's the damage?

As for the protesters, where's your link saying they are attacking Israel? Because all the news reports I'm seeing on the internet and on TV, say they are peaceful and un-armed.

You fuckers lie so much, I'm going to need some corroborating evidence to believe you.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Israel does have the right to defend its border, which is what the fence is, from anyone trying to invade the country - which is what the Arabs have been trying to do for the past 5 weeks.

IDF footage showing a group of five Palestinian men damage and break through the Gaza security fence, before one of them is shot dead, during a protest in Bureij, in the central Gaza Strip, on April 3, 2018. (Screen capture)


I am sure that the USA has the right to protect its borders with Mexico or Canada, if non Americans try to come into the country for any reason, armed or not. What do you say?

As long as the Arabs stayed "on their side of the fence" being peaceful, that would not be a problem.

So far, the problems have been:

Throwing rocks.

Throwing firebombs.

Allowing kites fly to the Israeli side while lit, so that when they land they will cause fires and damage

Arabs with guns attempting to cross over the fence in order to kidnap soldiers

Causing an environmental nightmare by setting on fire at least 10,000 rubber tires.
-----

And right in between the two Palestinian flags, is what the Arabs admire the most as an example of how to treat Jews:



Were you able to figure it out?


How do you like the peaceful protests so far?

Looking at your first picture...





...if your so-called security fence is to the right of those men, then they are still in Gaza. And if that is the fence you say is damaged, where's the damage?

As for the protesters, where's your link saying they are attacking Israel? Because all the news reports I'm seeing on the internet and on TV, say they are peaceful and un-armed.

You fuckers lie so much, I'm going to need some corroborating evidence to believe you.

You are in the wrong thread.

AGAIN

 

[Billo_Really]

Yet another lie from you. You complained that people were already living there as if you thought having a Jew move in your neighborhood was a terrible thing. There is nothing to any of your posts but bigotry. Again and again you demonstrate how vast and profound you ignorance of the area and situation is and you you maintain strong opinions based on this ignorance. The arrival of the European Jews did not displace the Arabs, but their violent response to the Jewish immigrants did lead to a war that did displace them. Their problems are all self inflicted.

Alright asshole, do you know who Ahad Ha'am was? Would you call him a bigot? Now, regarding your comment about the "violent response to the Jewish immigrants", I do give you credit for saying it was a "response" by the Arabs. And what were they responding to? As the famous Zionist Humanist said...

"... Ahad Ha'am warned that the settlers must under no circumstances arouse the wrath of the natives ... 'Yet what do our brethren do in Palestine? Just the very opposite! Serfs they were in the lands of the Diaspora and suddenly they find themselves in unrestricted freedom and this change has awakened in them an inclination to despotism. They treat the Arabs with hostility and cruelty, deprive them of their rights, offend them without cause and even boast of these deeds; and nobody among us opposes this despicable and dangerous inclination ...'
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"They treat the Arabs with hostility and cruelty"

Those are the words of a Zionist living there at the time. Now call him a BIGOT!

 

[Billo_Really]

You are in the wrong thread.

AGAIN

I specifically responded to YOUR post. So if I'm in the wrong thread, so are you.

 

[Billo_Really]

If you were not quite so stupid you might have said that in your opinion Israel should not have jurisdiction over the buffer zone, but clearly the fact on the ground is that Israel does have jurisdiction over it.

That might be the reality, but it is in violation of international law. Even the ICC has said so.

 

[Sixties Fan]

[ second Partition, in 1947, rejected by the Arab League ]

http://www.un.org/Depts/dpi/palestine/ch2.pdf

 

[Billo_Really]

It is your Palestinian mentality that the Saudi Prince is talking about.

That is why you understand nothing and continue to post nonsense.

Israel is a legal State. And it has the papers to prove it, you like it or not. It is made of the indigenous Jewish People/Nation which has lived on the land for 3800 years.

And many intelligent Muslims have and are acknowledging it, and speaking out loud.

Your childish outbursts is not going to change the wave, which is not going on the direction of Israel, in a positive way.

By all means, Israel is BY ALL MEANS necessary, like any other country .....going to protect its borders and its citizens and residents.

Get your pacifier out.

That Saudi prince is a piece of shit and a little western kiss-ass!

There have been more Arabs living in that area than Jewish residents. Arabs owned the majority of the land before the Zionist migration. Israel is not made up of indigenous Jews. In fact, the entire notion of the Jewish State violates the Three Oaths. According to the Three Oaths, Jews are to remain in exile until God comes back down to earth to create Israel, but Zionists couldn't wait.

 

[Sixties Fan]

In accounts of the July 2000 Camp David summit and the following months of Israeli-Palestinian negotiations, we often hear about Ehud Barak's unprecedented offer and Yasser Arafat's uncompromising "no". Israel is said to have made a historic proposal, which the Palestinians, once again seizing the opportunity to miss an opportunity, turned down. The failure to reach a final agreement is attributed, without notable dissent, to Yasser Arafat.

(full article online)

Camp David: a tragedy of errors

 

[Sixties Fan]

Palestinians Rejected Statehood Three Times, Claim Frustration — with Israel | CAMERA

 

[Billo_Really]

Exactly why there will be no “ Right of Return” Almost all of the West Bank, all of Gaza, their Capital in E. Jerusalem with the Israelis keeping control of just over 5 percent which would include their Holy Sites, plus some control inside the 67 Borders wasn’t enough? Regarding your comment about a Toll Road between Gaza and the W. Bank the Palestinians are demanding total control of it. Legally, why are they entitled? Holding those Prisoners who killed Israelis are against the law? **** YOU and **** THEM !!!

I was going to launch into something, but I love the way you ended your post! It reminds me of me.

 

[Sixties Fan]

It is your Palestinian mentality that the Saudi Prince is talking about.

That is why you understand nothing and continue to post nonsense.

Israel is a legal State. And it has the papers to prove it, you like it or not. It is made of the indigenous Jewish People/Nation which has lived on the land for 3800 years.

And many intelligent Muslims have and are acknowledging it, and speaking out loud.

Your childish outbursts is not going to change the wave, which is not going on the direction of Israel, in a positive way.

By all means, Israel is BY ALL MEANS necessary, like any other country .....going to protect its borders and its citizens and residents.

Get your pacifier out.

That Saudi prince is a piece of shit and a little western kiss-ass!

There have been more Arabs living in that area than Jewish residents. Arabs owned the majority of the land before the Zionist migration. Israel is not made up of indigenous Jews. In fact, the entire notion of the Jewish State violates the Three Oaths. According to the Three Oaths, Jews are to remain in exile until God comes back down to earth to create Israel, but Zionists couldn't wait.

Thank you for reminding us that you are a religious nutcase.

Jews must wait until they are all killed around the world, for then.....

the world would go "Oops....we should have given them some of their land back"

Or Christian and Muslim preferred answer:

"Too Bad"

It is your kind of beliefs that the Jewish people are defending themselves from, and it is exactly what Israel is going to continue to defend itself from.

Am Israel Chai

The People of Israel Live

 

[Billo_Really]

I will say it again,

YOU KNOW NOTHING about war zones.

Ad hominems are not valid rebuttals.

 

[Billo_Really]

You are in the wrong thread.

AGAIN

What am I wrong about? Explain it. In detail.

 

[Billo_Really]

Thank you for reminding us that you are a religious nutcase.

Jews must wait until they are all killed around the world, for then.....

the world would go "Oops....we should have given them some of their land back"

Or Christian and Muslim preferred answer:

"Too Bad"

It is your kind of beliefs that the Jewish people are defending themselves from, and it is exactly what Israel is going to continue to defend itself from.

Am Israel Chai

The People of Israel Live

Don't blame me because I quoted the Torah. I'm a white Irish Catholic. I don't give a shit about Judaism.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Thank you for reminding us that you are a religious nutcase.

Jews must wait until they are all killed around the world, for then.....

the world would go "Oops....we should have given them some of their land back"

Or Christian and Muslim preferred answer:

"Too Bad"

It is your kind of beliefs that the Jewish people are defending themselves from, and it is exactly what Israel is going to continue to defend itself from.

Am Israel Chai

The People of Israel Live

Don't blame me because I quoted the Torah. I'm a white Irish Catholic. I don't give a shit about Judaism.

Which is exactly why Jews have been persecuted by the "White Catholics" for 1700 years.

Because Catholics don't give a SHIT about humans.

Only about their own pathetic salvation.

Turraloo....