Saudi prince: Maybe the Palestinians should’ve taken the deals they were offered

[Sixties Fan]

No. It’s demonstrably true.

No it isn't. They just want the occupation to end. They just want freedom.

Do yourself a favor and read the Hamas charter. You will notice the charter makes no mention of “occupation”.

It does, however, repeatedly cite Islamist religious proscriptions for Jew hatreds and fascist ideals of Islamist entitlement to lands conquered during gee-had.

He could not care less. He never will. His words have said so many times.

 

[Shusha]

No. It’s demonstrably true.

No it isn't. They just want the occupation to end. They just want freedom.

They consider ANY Jewish presence or sovereignty to be "occupation".

If they wanted freedom and self-determination and sovereignty they would have accepted one of the literally dozens of offers that have been on the table.

They haven't because the only end of occupation they will accept is the destruction of Israel.

 

[Hollie]

No. It’s demonstrably true.

No it isn't. They just want the occupation to end. They just want freedom.

They consider ANY Jewish presence or sovereignty to be "occupation".

If they wanted freedom and self-determination and sovereignty they would have accepted one of the literally dozens of offers that have been on the table.

They haven't because the only end of occupation they will accept is the destruction of Israel.

Hamas must be furious. They spelled out in their Charter, in explicit detail, what their goals are. Yet, there are some people who still want to ignore what they wrote.

 

[Sixties Fan]

[ But....but....they just want to be FREE......... No Palestinians mentioned, only Muslims, all Muslims, only Muslims ]


Strategies and Methods

Strategies of the Islamic Resistance Movement: Palestine Is Islamic aqf:

Article Eleven:
The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up. Neither a single Arab country nor all Arab countries, neither any king or president, nor all the kings and presidents, neither any organization nor all of them, be they Palestinian or Arab, possess the right to do that. Palestine is an Islamic Waqf land consecrated for Moslem generations until Judgement Day. This being so, who could claim to have the right to represent Moslem generations till Judgement Day?

This is the law governing the land of Palestine in the Islamic Sharia (law) and the same goes for any land the Moslems have conquered by force, because during the times of (Islamic) conquests, the Moslems consecrated these lands to Moslem generations till the Day of Judgement.

It happened like this: When the leaders of the Islamic armies conquered Syria and Iraq, they sent to the Caliph of the Moslems, Umar bin-el-Khatab, asking for his advice concerning the conquered land - whether they should divide it among the soldiers, or leave it for its owners, or what? After consultations and discussions between the Caliph of the Moslems, Omar bin-el-Khatab and companions of the Prophet, Allah bless him and grant him salvation, it was decided that the land should be left with its owners who could benefit by its fruit. As for the real ownership of the land and the land itself, it should be consecrated for Moslem generations till Judgement Day. Those who are on the land, are there only to benefit from its fruit. This Waqf remains as long as earth and heaven remain. Any procedure in contradiction to Islamic Sharia, where Palestine is concerned, is null and void.

"Verily, this is a certain truth. Wherefore praise the name of thy Lord, the great Allah." (The Inevitable - verse 95).

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[ Just one of the many article regarding MUSLIM - NOT PALESTINIAN - ownership of the land.

NOTHING about Arab, Muslim, Palestinians, being the indigenous people of the land.

The Quran is very clear as to who the land of Israel belongs to - who the indigenous/native people of that land are - The Jewish People. The ones who had been there for over 3500 years ]

 

[Markle]

Oh jeese, more of Israrl's terrorist propaganda campaign.

Being a proud anti-Semite, please explain your theory of "Israel's terrorist propaganda campaign".

 

[P F Tinmore]

Oh jeese, more of Israrl's terrorist propaganda campaign.

Being a proud anti-Semite, please explain your theory of "Israel's terrorist propaganda campaign".

You are a proud anti-Semite? I wouldn't have known.

Anyway, in everything you see, hear, or read out of Israel, they play the terrorist card.

A good example was during the 2006 war with Lebanon. Nutandyahoo was touring the rightwingnut radio circuit selling the war. He was on the Bill Bennett show. He played the terrorist card 17 times in an 8 minute segment like he was trying to sell something. This was radio but I could see Bennett nodding like a bobble head doll.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Oh jeese, more of Israrl's terrorist propaganda campaign.

Being a proud anti-Semite, please explain your theory of "Israel's terrorist propaganda campaign".

You are a proud anti-Semite? I wouldn't have known.

Anyway, in everything you see, hear, or read out of Israel, they play the terrorist card.

A good example was during the 2006 war with Lebanon. Nutandyahoo was touring the rightwingnut radio circuit selling the war. He was on the Bill Bennett show. He played the terrorist card 17 times in an 8 minute segment like he was trying to sell something. This was radio but I could see Bennett nodding like a bobble head doll.

LINK !!!!!

 

[Hollie]

Oh jeese, more of Israrl's terrorist propaganda campaign.

Being a proud anti-Semite, please explain your theory of "Israel's terrorist propaganda campaign".

You are a proud anti-Semite? I wouldn't have known.

Anyway, in everything you see, hear, or read out of Israel, they play the terrorist card.

A good example was during the 2006 war with Lebanon. Nutandyahoo was touring the rightwingnut radio circuit selling the war. He was on the Bill Bennett show. He played the terrorist card 17 times in an 8 minute segment like he was trying to sell something. This was radio but I could see Bennett nodding like a bobble head doll.

What’s wrong with referring to Islamic terrorists as Islamic terrorists?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Oh jeese, more of Israrl's terrorist propaganda campaign.

Being a proud anti-Semite, please explain your theory of "Israel's terrorist propaganda campaign".

You are a proud anti-Semite? I wouldn't have known.

Anyway, in everything you see, hear, or read out of Israel, they play the terrorist card.

A good example was during the 2006 war with Lebanon. Nutandyahoo was touring the rightwingnut radio circuit selling the war. He was on the Bill Bennett show. He played the terrorist card 17 times in an 8 minute segment like he was trying to sell something. This was radio but I could see Bennett nodding like a bobble head doll.

LINK !!!!!

It was a transcript on Bill Nennett's web site.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Oh jeese, more of Israrl's terrorist propaganda campaign.

Being a proud anti-Semite, please explain your theory of "Israel's terrorist propaganda campaign".

You are a proud anti-Semite? I wouldn't have known.

Anyway, in everything you see, hear, or read out of Israel, they play the terrorist card.

A good example was during the 2006 war with Lebanon. Nutandyahoo was touring the rightwingnut radio circuit selling the war. He was on the Bill Bennett show. He played the terrorist card 17 times in an 8 minute segment like he was trying to sell something. This was radio but I could see Bennett nodding like a bobble head doll.

What’s wrong with referring to Islamic terrorists as Islamic terrorists?

People defending their country are terrorists?

 

[Sixties Fan]

Oh jeese, more of Israrl's terrorist propaganda campaign.

Being a proud anti-Semite, please explain your theory of "Israel's terrorist propaganda campaign".

You are a proud anti-Semite? I wouldn't have known.

Anyway, in everything you see, hear, or read out of Israel, they play the terrorist card.

A good example was during the 2006 war with Lebanon. Nutandyahoo was touring the rightwingnut radio circuit selling the war. He was on the Bill Bennett show. He played the terrorist card 17 times in an 8 minute segment like he was trying to sell something. This was radio but I could see Bennett nodding like a bobble head doll.

What’s wrong with referring to Islamic terrorists as Islamic terrorists?

People defending their country are terrorists?

Arab Palestinians do NOT have a country.
They have refused one since 1937.

Still at it

 

[P F Tinmore]

Oh jeese, more of Israrl's terrorist propaganda campaign.

Being a proud anti-Semite, please explain your theory of "Israel's terrorist propaganda campaign".

You are a proud anti-Semite? I wouldn't have known.

Anyway, in everything you see, hear, or read out of Israel, they play the terrorist card.

A good example was during the 2006 war with Lebanon. Nutandyahoo was touring the rightwingnut radio circuit selling the war. He was on the Bill Bennett show. He played the terrorist card 17 times in an 8 minute segment like he was trying to sell something. This was radio but I could see Bennett nodding like a bobble head doll.

What’s wrong with referring to Islamic terrorists as Islamic terrorists?

People defending their country are terrorists?

Arab Palestinians do NOT have a country.
They have refused one since 1937.

Still at it

Link? Or are you just shoveling Israeli shit?

 

[Sixties Fan]

Oh jeese, more of Israrl's terrorist propaganda campaign.

Being a proud anti-Semite, please explain your theory of "Israel's terrorist propaganda campaign".

You are a proud anti-Semite? I wouldn't have known.

Anyway, in everything you see, hear, or read out of Israel, they play the terrorist card.

A good example was during the 2006 war with Lebanon. Nutandyahoo was touring the rightwingnut radio circuit selling the war. He was on the Bill Bennett show. He played the terrorist card 17 times in an 8 minute segment like he was trying to sell something. This was radio but I could see Bennett nodding like a bobble head doll.

LINK !!!!!

It was a transcript on Bill Nennett's web site.

Well, since it does not seem to exist we are simply to accept your version of it.

Never mind what the Lebanon war was all about, right?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Oh jeese, more of Israrl's terrorist propaganda campaign.

Being a proud anti-Semite, please explain your theory of "Israel's terrorist propaganda campaign".

You are a proud anti-Semite? I wouldn't have known.

Anyway, in everything you see, hear, or read out of Israel, they play the terrorist card.

A good example was during the 2006 war with Lebanon. Nutandyahoo was touring the rightwingnut radio circuit selling the war. He was on the Bill Bennett show. He played the terrorist card 17 times in an 8 minute segment like he was trying to sell something. This was radio but I could see Bennett nodding like a bobble head doll.

LINK !!!!!

It was a transcript on Bill Nennett's web site.

Well, since it does not seem to exist we are simply to accept your version of it.

Never mind what the Lebanon war was all about, right?

Which Lebanon war? Israel has been at war with all of its neighbors multiple times. I think there is a common denominator here.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Being a proud anti-Semite, please explain your theory of "Israel's terrorist propaganda campaign".

You are a proud anti-Semite? I wouldn't have known.

Anyway, in everything you see, hear, or read out of Israel, they play the terrorist card.

A good example was during the 2006 war with Lebanon. Nutandyahoo was touring the rightwingnut radio circuit selling the war. He was on the Bill Bennett show. He played the terrorist card 17 times in an 8 minute segment like he was trying to sell something. This was radio but I could see Bennett nodding like a bobble head doll.

What’s wrong with referring to Islamic terrorists as Islamic terrorists?

People defending their country are terrorists?

Arab Palestinians do NOT have a country.
They have refused one since 1937.

Still at it

Link? Or are you just shoveling Israeli shit?

Well, I cannot find any link to this radio show to be able to hear it and make up my mind about it.

BUT.....

Let me give you a quick review as to who or what started that war:

Instigated when Hezbollah guerrillas conducted a perfidious cross-border raid in which they killed eight Israel Defense Forces soldiers and abducted two others

Background & Overview: Second Lebanon War

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Go ahead.....tell us that Israel did something to this non Palestinian people which got them so upset that they crossed into Israel, killed eight soldiers and abducted two others.

Be your guest.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Being a proud anti-Semite, please explain your theory of "Israel's terrorist propaganda campaign".

You are a proud anti-Semite? I wouldn't have known.

Anyway, in everything you see, hear, or read out of Israel, they play the terrorist card.

A good example was during the 2006 war with Lebanon. Nutandyahoo was touring the rightwingnut radio circuit selling the war. He was on the Bill Bennett show. He played the terrorist card 17 times in an 8 minute segment like he was trying to sell something. This was radio but I could see Bennett nodding like a bobble head doll.

LINK !!!!!

It was a transcript on Bill Nennett's web site.

Well, since it does not seem to exist we are simply to accept your version of it.

Never mind what the Lebanon war was all about, right?

Which Lebanon war? Israel has been at war with all of its neighbors multiple times. I think there is a common denominator here.

I did not use the word WHICH.

I said WHAT.

 

[P F Tinmore]

You are a proud anti-Semite? I wouldn't have known.

Anyway, in everything you see, hear, or read out of Israel, they play the terrorist card.

A good example was during the 2006 war with Lebanon. Nutandyahoo was touring the rightwingnut radio circuit selling the war. He was on the Bill Bennett show. He played the terrorist card 17 times in an 8 minute segment like he was trying to sell something. This was radio but I could see Bennett nodding like a bobble head doll.

What’s wrong with referring to Islamic terrorists as Islamic terrorists?

People defending their country are terrorists?

Arab Palestinians do NOT have a country.
They have refused one since 1937.

Still at it

Link? Or are you just shoveling Israeli shit?

Well, I cannot find any link to this radio show to be able to hear it and make up my mind about it.

BUT.....

Let me give you a quick review as to who or what started that war:

Instigated when Hezbollah guerrillas conducted a perfidious cross-border raid in which they killed eight Israel Defense Forces soldiers and abducted two others

Background & Overview: Second Lebanon War

------

Go ahead.....tell us that Israel did something to this non Palestinian people which got them so upset that they crossed into Israel, killed eight soldiers and abducted two others.

Be your guest.

Oh, that one. Israel was still holding Lebanese political prisoners from their occupation. Hezbollah needed someone to swap.

 

[Sixties Fan]

What’s wrong with referring to Islamic terrorists as Islamic terrorists?

People defending their country are terrorists?

Arab Palestinians do NOT have a country.
They have refused one since 1937.

Still at it

Link? Or are you just shoveling Israeli shit?

Well, I cannot find any link to this radio show to be able to hear it and make up my mind about it.

BUT.....

Let me give you a quick review as to who or what started that war:

Instigated when Hezbollah guerrillas conducted a perfidious cross-border raid in which they killed eight Israel Defense Forces soldiers and abducted two others

Background & Overview: Second Lebanon War

------

Go ahead.....tell us that Israel did something to this non Palestinian people which got them so upset that they crossed into Israel, killed eight soldiers and abducted two others.

Be your guest.

Oh, that one. Israel was still holding Lebanese political prisoners from their occupation. Hezbollah needed someone to swap.

How nice of them.

Still, nothing to do with the Palestinians and their rejection of peace, which is what this thread is all about.

 

[P F Tinmore]

People defending their country are terrorists?

Arab Palestinians do NOT have a country.
They have refused one since 1937.

Still at it

Link? Or are you just shoveling Israeli shit?

Well, I cannot find any link to this radio show to be able to hear it and make up my mind about it.

BUT.....

Let me give you a quick review as to who or what started that war:

Instigated when Hezbollah guerrillas conducted a perfidious cross-border raid in which they killed eight Israel Defense Forces soldiers and abducted two others

Background & Overview: Second Lebanon War

------

Go ahead.....tell us that Israel did something to this non Palestinian people which got them so upset that they crossed into Israel, killed eight soldiers and abducted two others.

Be your guest.

Oh, that one. Israel was still holding Lebanese political prisoners from their occupation. Hezbollah needed someone to swap.

How nice of them.

Still, nothing to do with the Palestinians and their rejection of peace, which is what this thread is all about.

The Palestinians do not reject peace. They just reject Israel's version of peace.

 

[RoccoR]

Saudi prince: Maybe the Palestinians should’ve taken the deals they were offered
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Oh yes, here we go again. They are the poor downtrodden Arab Palestinians. Being accused of terrorism when it was just when it was an Islamic prayer meeting.

Oh jeese, more of Israrl's terrorist propaganda campaign.

(REFERENCE)

✪⇒ The international community has elaborated 19 international legal instruments to prevent terrorist acts.

1. Convention for the Suppression of Unlawful Seizure of Aircraft, done at The Hague on16 December 1970.

2. Convention for the Suppression of Unlawful Acts against the Safety of Civil Aviation,
done at Montreal on 23 September 1971.

3. Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of Crimes against Internationally Protected Persons, including Diplomatic Agents, adopted by the General Assembly of the United Nations on 14 December 1973.

4. International Convention against the Taking of Hostages, adopted by the General Assembly of the United Nations on 17 December 1979.

5. Convention on the Physical Protection of Nuclear Material, adopted at Vienna on 3 March 1980.

6. Protocol for the Suppression of Unlawful Acts of Violence at Airports Serving International Civil Aviation, supplementary to the Convention for the Suppression of Unlawful Acts against the Safety of Civil Aviation, done at Montreal on 24 February 1988.

7 .Convention for the Suppression of Unlawful Acts against the Safety of Maritime Navigation, done at Rome on 10 March 1988.

8. Protocol for the Suppression of Unlawful Acts against the Safety of Fixed Platforms located on the Continental Shelf, done at Rome on 10 March 1988.​

9. International Convention for the Suppression of Terrorist Bombings, adopted by the General Assembly of the United Nations on 15 December 1997.​

(COMMENT)

I want to get this straight in my mind. What you are saying is that Arab Palestinians DO NOT HAVE a past history of the criminal behaviors listed here:

✪⇒ That the Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP) never engaged in unlawful activities such as illicit arms trafficking, drug dealing and racketeering, including the exploitation of persons for purposes of funding terrorist activities,

✪⇒ An act which constitutes an offense within the scope of and as defined in one of the treaties or conventions listed, but not limited to, in the references above.

✪⇒ Including the HoAP that commits an offence within the meaning of this International Convention for the Suppression of Terrorist Bombings if that person unlawfully and intentionally delivers, places, discharges or detonates an explosive or other lethal device in, into or against a place of public use, a State or government facility, a public transportation system or an infrastructure facility.

✪⇒ That the Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP), individually or as part of an organization, never engaged to seize or detain and threaten to kill, to injure, or to continue to detain another person in order to compel a third party, namely, a State, an international intergovernmental organization, a natural or juridical person, or a group of persons, to do or abstain from doing any act as an explicit or implicit condition for the release of the hostage commits the offence of taking of hostage within the meaning of this Convention."

✪⇒ That the Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP) never engaged in the intentional murder, kidnapping or another attack upon the person or liberty of an internationally protected person, a violent attack upon the official premises, the private accommodations, or the means of transport of such person; a threat or attempt to commit such an attack; and an act "constituting participation as an accomplice".​

If you're having trouble finding examples, I can readily supply them to you. There is no campaign by the Israeli's to falsely label Arab Palestinian activities as acts of either terrorism or violations of Customary and IHL.

Most Respectfully,
R