Saudi prince: Maybe the Palestinians should’ve taken the deals they were offered

[Billo_Really]

Another stupid ASSHOLE comment. Hitler INITIATED the War. That is the difference . Get. It? Of course not!! “ International Law” is a joke, like YOU!
Please tell us why Egypt blocked the Straits of Tiran, Israel appealed to the U.N. and they did Nothing!
Better yet, tell us why the U.N. left just before the 67 War broke out . If the Arabs had won, does anyone in their right mind believe that land would have been given back? He stated his goal was the destruction of Israel. He also stated that with “ Right of Return” Israel will cease to co exist. **** YOU and the U. N!!!!! What you think ???

Better read this answer fast. Apparently, me responding to your post is derailing the thread.

I wonder just how many ******* ways you can talk about a comment from a Saudi prince? Get ******* real!

Your post is off topic as all hell, yet it remains.

 

[Billo_Really]

242 is utterly and completely irrelevant today because the States who were Parties to the conflict have resolved the conflict and signed peace treaties which have the effect of law.

There is no legal agreement which creates an international boundary between Israel and "Palestine". (Unless you want to talk Oslo).

You can "spin this" til the cows come home but you will not find any document which creates an international boundary between Israel and "Palestine".

Every county agrees that a peace process must occur to settle the problem. The idea that no negotiations are neede because the conflict has already been resolved is absurd. No country agrees with this. (Not that international law is a popularity contest, btw)

242 is irrelevant because you don't stand behind your word. You don't care about international law. You care about believing in the absurd.

There is no difference between Israel annexing the West Bank and Hitler annexing Poland.

 

[Billo_Really]

Where do Palestinians get the "right" to send, train and pay suicide bombers and launch rockets into Israel?

From the occupation. A population under occupation, has the legal right to resist aggression from a foreign force.

 

[Shusha]

242 is utterly and completely irrelevant today because the States who were Parties to the conflict have resolved the conflict and signed peace treaties which have the effect of law.

There is no legal agreement which creates an international boundary between Israel and "Palestine". (Unless you want to talk Oslo).

You can "spin this" til the cows come home but you will not find any document which creates an international boundary between Israel and "Palestine".

Every county agrees that a peace process must occur to settle the problem. The idea that no negotiations are neede because the conflict has already been resolved is absurd. No country agrees with this. (Not that international law is a popularity contest, btw)

242 is irrelevant because you don't stand behind your word. You don't care about international law. You care about believing in the absurd.

There is no difference between Israel annexing the West Bank and Hitler annexing Poland.

Don't be absurd. Of course there is a difference. Poland was an established State and had an international boundary with Germany.

Palestine has no international boundary with Israel. The boundary has yet to be determined through negotiation and a peace treaty.

That is one of the main points of a peace process. To establish the boundary.

 

[Billo_Really]

Don't be absurd. Of course there is a difference. Poland was an established State and had an international boundary with Germany.

Palestine has no international boundary with Israel. The boundary has yet to be determined through negotiation and a peace treaty.

That is one of the main points of a peace process. To establish the boundary.

Those people have been living there for generations and they have rights. You don't need a country with borders to have human rights. Rights, BTW, Israel has taken away.

And of coarse it is like Germany and Poland. You started a war with Egypt, who does have an international boundary. Then you took land you have no sovereign title to. And you never will.

 

[Hollie]

242 is utterly and completely irrelevant today because the States who were Parties to the conflict have resolved the conflict and signed peace treaties which have the effect of law.

There is no legal agreement which creates an international boundary between Israel and "Palestine". (Unless you want to talk Oslo).

You can "spin this" til the cows come home but you will not find any document which creates an international boundary between Israel and "Palestine".

Every county agrees that a peace process must occur to settle the problem. The idea that no negotiations are neede because the conflict has already been resolved is absurd. No country agrees with this. (Not that international law is a popularity contest, btw)

242 is irrelevant because you don't stand behind your word. You don't care about international law. You care about believing in the absurd.

There is no difference between Israel annexing the West Bank and Hitler annexing Poland.

I’ll give you 4.5 / 5 for such weepy-eyed melodrama.

 

[Billo_Really]

I’ll give you 4.5 / 5 for such weepy-eyed melodrama.

Off topic. You're derailing the thread.

 

[Hollie]

Where do Palestinians get the "right" to send, train and pay suicide bombers and launch rockets into Israel?

From the occupation. A population under occupation, has the legal right to resist aggression from a foreign force.

While entertaining, your rambling tirades are, nevertheless, lacking any real coherency.

Gaza is not occupied. Therefore, your silly “from the occupation” meme is meaningless. And yes, you can cut and paste the revised and altered definition for “occupation” that has been cut and pasted dozens of times but that’s really a lot of Islamic terrorist apologist scapegoating.

Here’s the link to the Hamas charter:

The Avalon Project : Hamas Covenant 1988

Note that there is no mention of “occupation” anywhere in that documemt. What you will find is the charter is actually a statement of Islamic fascism and Islamist supremacy. What you will find is that the charter is a reiteration of Koranic slogans about Islamist entitlement, gee-had and appeals to Islamist politico-religious ideology.

 

[Hollie]

I’ll give you 4.5 / 5 for such weepy-eyed melodrama.

Off topic. You're derailing the thread.

Apparently, any response to your comments you don’t agree with is “derailing the thread”.

 

[Billo_Really]

While entertaining, your rambling tirades are, nevertheless, lacking any real coherency.

Gaza is not occupied. Therefore, your silly “from the occupation” meme is meaningless. And yes, you can cut and paste the revised and altered definition for “occupation” that has been cut and pasted dozens of times but that’s really a lot of Islamic terrorist apologist scapegoating.

Here’s the link to the Hamas charter:

The Avalon Project : Hamas Covenant 1988

Note that there is no mention of “occupation” anywhere in that documemt. What you will find is the charter is actually a statement of Islamic fascism and Islamist supremacy. What you will find is that the charter is a reiteration of Koranic slogans about Islamist entitlement, gee-had and appeals to Islamist politico-religious ideology.

That's a 40 year old document they don't even follow any more. Live in the now.

 

[Billo_Really]

Apparently, any response to your comments you don’t agree with is “derailing the thread”.

The thread is not about me. All your posts are.

 

[Hollie]

While entertaining, your rambling tirades are, nevertheless, lacking any real coherency.

Gaza is not occupied. Therefore, your silly “from the occupation” meme is meaningless. And yes, you can cut and paste the revised and altered definition for “occupation” that has been cut and pasted dozens of times but that’s really a lot of Islamic terrorist apologist scapegoating.

Here’s the link to the Hamas charter:

The Avalon Project : Hamas Covenant 1988

Note that there is no mention of “occupation” anywhere in that documemt. What you will find is the charter is actually a statement of Islamic fascism and Islamist supremacy. What you will find is that the charter is a reiteration of Koranic slogans about Islamist entitlement, gee-had and appeals to Islamist politico-religious ideology.

That's a 40 year old document they don't even follow any more. Live in the now.

That’s quite the islamo-tap dance you’re doing.

Actions speak with the utmost clarity and the goals of the charter are being pursued today just as they were in 1988.

Why not show us when and where Hamas has repudiated the charter?

Live in the now, not your alternate reality of Islamic terrorist apologetics.

 

[Hollie]

Apparently, any response to your comments you don’t agree with is “derailing the thread”.

The thread is not about me. All your posts are.

More excuses for your lack of ability to form a coherent argument.

 

[rylah]

While entertaining, your rambling tirades are, nevertheless, lacking any real coherency.

Gaza is not occupied. Therefore, your silly “from the occupation” meme is meaningless. And yes, you can cut and paste the revised and altered definition for “occupation” that has been cut and pasted dozens of times but that’s really a lot of Islamic terrorist apologist scapegoating.

Here’s the link to the Hamas charter:

The Avalon Project : Hamas Covenant 1988

Note that there is no mention of “occupation” anywhere in that documemt. What you will find is the charter is actually a statement of Islamic fascism and Islamist supremacy. What you will find is that the charter is a reiteration of Koranic slogans about Islamist entitlement, gee-had and appeals to Islamist politico-religious ideology.

That's a 40 year old document they don't even follow any more. Live in the now.

" they don't even follow any more."

And the new "updated" document:

Q. Do You think sane Arab countries want to be associated with this lunacy?
Think about it... these suicidal maniacs are claiming to be the symbol of Arab honor...
No one needs to explain what eventually happens to Arabs who dishonor the family.

 

[Billo_Really]

More excuses for your lack of ability to form a coherent argument.

Again. Another derailing post about me.

 

[Billo_Really]

And he new "updated" document:

Where's the link to your photo shopped pictures?

 

[Hollie]

There’s not a lot of whining about “occupation” from Islamist clerics. It’s more about insensate Jew hatreds, gee-had and Islamist fascism; attributes that have defined Islamism since it’s invention by Muhammud (swish).


MEMRI TV Clip No. 6543: Friday Sermon By Gaza Cleric Musa Abu Jleidan: The 'Return March' Goes Hand In Hand With Jihad By The Sword; The Jews Are The Philosophers Of Terrorism And Crime

MEMRI TV Clips Of Gaza 'Return March'

To view this clip on MEMRI TV, click here.

In a Friday sermon, Gaza cleric Sheikh Musa Abu Jleidan said that the "Great Return March" is a "form of Jihad" that "does not eliminate the need for Jihad by the sword, by missiles, and by rockets." "They go hand in hand," he said. Speaking at Masjid Al-Abrar, Rafah, on April 27, Sheikh Abu Jleidan further said that the Jews "are the philosophers of terrorism and crime, people of treachery and deceit, who slayed the prophets of Allah." The sermon was posted on Sheikh Abu Jleidan's YouTube channel.

 

[Hollie]

More excuses for your lack of ability to form a coherent argument.

Again. Another derailing post about me.

Again, your retreat.

 

[rylah]

And he new "updated" document:

Where's the link to your photo shopped pictures?

Read the post again.
If bold denial is Your main retreat then You're already on the defense.
Because we both know Your retreat is ridiculous.

This is Beit Ummar...




Q. So how many Arab countries do You think want to be publicly associated with and fight for that flag as a symbol of 'Arab Muslim honor'?

I think it will be the Arab neighbors themselves who'll make the biggest impact on the situation. In the long run - that's more of an obstacle for them than for Israel.

 

[Shusha]

Don't be absurd. Of course there is a difference. Poland was an established State and had an international boundary with Germany.

Palestine has no international boundary with Israel. The boundary has yet to be determined through negotiation and a peace treaty.

That is one of the main points of a peace process. To establish the boundary.

Those people have been living there for generations and they have rights. You don't need a country with borders to have human rights. Rights, BTW, Israel has taken away.

And of coarse it is like Germany and Poland. You started a war with Egypt, who does have an international boundary. Then you took land you have no sovereign title to. And you never will.

The Arab Palestinians have been there for generations and do have rights. Never have I disputed that.

Their rights do not extend to unilaterally claiming an international border between themselves and another sovereign nation. International borders are created through treaties between the Parties concerned.

Nor do their rights extend to the destruction of another sovereign nation.

Israel has an ironclad legal claim to all of the territory formerly under the Mandate for Palestine (Jordan excepted). Israel chooses not exercise her rights over her entire claim as a specific acknowledgement of Arab Palestinian rights to a territory of heir own.

But Arab Palestinians don't seem capable of making a sovereign claim over their share because they are still too hung up on claiming the entire territory for themselves and ripping the hearts out of Jews.