Sanders Tweets 'How Many Yachts Do Billionaires Need? How Many Cars?

[Michelle420]

Nobody needs a Yacht. They may want one or have the means for one. But it's not a basic need.

nobody needs a TV either but govt libNazis should not destroy anyone's incentive to do the work necessary to buy them.

A yacht is much different than a tv. smh...

Much different or a little different? They are both sources for entertain;meant.

much different price wise.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Nobody needs a Yacht. They may want one or have the means for one. But it's not a basic need.

Basic needs for conservatives are food, water and shelter.

Basic needs for liberals are food, water, shelter and government.

 

[Michelle420]

Nobody needs a Yacht. They may want one or have the means for one. But it's not a basic need.

Basic needs for conservatives are food, water and shelter.

Basic needs for liberals are food, water, shelter and government.

Basic needs for everyone is food water and shelter, both liberals and conservatives live governed in society.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Nobody needs a Yacht. They may want one or have the means for one. But it's not a basic need.

nobody needs a TV either but govt libNazis should not destroy anyone's incentive to do the work necessary to buy them.

A yacht is much different than a tv. smh...

Much different or a little different? They are both sources for entertainmennt.

Nobody needs a Yacht. They may want one or have the means for one. But it's not a basic need.

nobody needs a TV either but govt libNazis should not destroy anyone's incentive to do the work necessary to buy them.

A yacht is much different than a tv. smh...

Much different or a little different? They are both sources for entertain;meant.

much different price wise.

Yes they are. What's your point?

Politicians are not the deciders on how much of anything is enough for people.

 

[Michelle420]

Nobody needs a Yacht. They may want one or have the means for one. But it's not a basic need.

nobody needs a TV either but govt libNazis should not destroy anyone's incentive to do the work necessary to buy them.

A yacht is much different than a tv. smh...

Much different or a little different? They are both sources for entertainmennt.

Nobody needs a Yacht. They may want one or have the means for one. But it's not a basic need.

nobody needs a TV either but govt libNazis should not destroy anyone's incentive to do the work necessary to buy them.

A yacht is much different than a tv. smh...

Much different or a little different? They are both sources for entertain;meant.

much different price wise.

Yes they are. What's your point?

Politicians are not the deciders on how much of anything is enough for people.

I answered the titled question of the thread. They don't "need" any.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Nobody needs a Yacht. They may want one or have the means for one. But it's not a basic need.

Basic needs for conservatives are food, water and shelter.

Basic needs for liberals are food, water, shelter and government.

Basic needs for everyone is food water and shelter, both liberals and conservatives live governed in society.

so as a typical liberal you want to steal at gunpoint from the yacht buyer to provide crippling welfare for the TV buyer rather than give the TV buyer a real job making yachts? See why we say liberals don't think??

 

[Michelle420]

Nobody needs a Yacht. They may want one or have the means for one. But it's not a basic need.

Basic needs for conservatives are food, water and shelter.

Basic needs for liberals are food, water, shelter and government.

Basic needs for everyone is food water and shelter, both liberals and conservatives live governed in society.

so as a typical liberal you want to steal at gunpoint from the yacht buyer to provide welfare for the TV buyer rather than give the TV buyer a job making yachts? See why say liberals don't think??

Link where I said that?

 

[EverCurious]

WTF I only have one yacht down in Seward !!! I have like four other boats though; river boat, lake boat, fishing boat, and a motorized row boat for lake fishing. I do have uhm... 6 cars though. One of them is broked and one of them is a rebuild project that isn't running yet... wait, I forgot the trailblazer. 7 cars fuck yea!

'Merica!

 

[Dr Grump]

Trump works 16 hours a day seven days a week and has his entire adult life and he has been more successful than 99.99% of all people in business yes he started with a little money from his father but so what he might just as easily have lost the money as multiply it 10,000 times without a huge talent luck and hard work. Do you understand?

Did he though? That's what he tells you. He has told so many verifiable lies I wouldn't trust anything he said even if it was notarised. He did lose the money. Six times he's been a bankrupt. I won't even go into how many times he's screwed over contractors. No, the guy is a snake oil salesman.

 

[Dr Grump]

The rich more worthy? This is obviously true in a capitalist system to get rich other people have to buy your stuff and not buy other people's stuff they buy your stuff because they are free and like it better and have determined that it increases the quality of their life how would you like to live in a society where people entrusted with raising your standard of living we're not rewarded for doing so and therefore did not have any interest in raising your standard of living. This is why 120 million people slowly died in the USSR and red China. You need to learn humility before God and before rich people and before Republican capitalism. yes they are more worthy or worth more because other people have decided that by buying their products over any other products that they might have bought with the same money do you understand now?

No, it is not true. And you are missing my point. You are bundling all rich people into one basket. I am not. Gates. Worthy. Trump. Not. Get it yet? Both are rich, but one has done infinitely more for humanity and is worth a lot more praise than the other. You have heard of the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation, right? Trump's foundation? Bought a picture of himself and hung it in his hacienda in Florida. What a guy. Gee, must praise him...not...

My other point is this

 

[Doc1]

If I design a better mousetrap so I can make a lot of money, is that greed? If so, how is that bad?

No. And No.

So if I buy six yachts with the money I made from my mousetrap, why does Bernie Sanders think that's bad?

He doesn't want YOU to buy more but it's ok if he does.

 

[Dr Grump]

What you did buy into are the stereotypes you imagine.

How do you know what those wall street people donate to charity? How do you know what humanitarian things they did or didn't do? You just assume. People don't donate a ton of money and then walk around with a tee shirt saying so. When Oprah donated two dollars, she made sure everybody in the country watching her knew about it. She even made shows about it.

If you think Trump didn't work a day in his life, obviously you're living in a basement somewhere and nowhere near business. I've seen it first hand. I've seen companies handed down to the children that went belly up in a matter of a few years; silver spoons that just assumed Dad's business ran by itself and was an automatic wealth machine.

Most people with things in life work for them, it's just that some make more money than others. But just because they don't lift roof shingles all day long or tow cars for a living doesn't mean they don't work.

Money is responsibility. There are several books out there about lottery winners that ended up dead broke because they didn't know how to handle money. They didn't hire people to manage their money, they didn't seek professional advice, they didn't seek education on financial matters, they spent like their winnings were never ending, and some even ended up in serious debt and even bankruptcy.

Yeah, and those Wall St types donate with other peoples money that they have just moved around. Read The Big Short and if you can't be bothered reading it, watch the movie. Even THEY know they are rorting the system. You know they were responsible for the GFC and not one of them went to prison. Not ONE. You have guys ripping off consumers for 1000s of dollars, they at least get community service or some time in the slammer. I concur, people lose money all the time. Trump has filed for Chapter 11 no less than six times. Now, somebody else on here said it was a good business move. Probably was. But I would suggest if you have had to file for bankruptcy protection six times, business may not be your thing. How many times has Buffet or Gates filed for Chapter 11? Never.

 

[Dr Grump]

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So if I buy six yachts with the money I made from my mousetrap, why does Bernie Sanders think that's bad?

Dunno. You'd have to ask Bernie. Personally, I think six is over the top. Good on you if you want six yachts. However, don't expect me to sit there and go "what a guy!" I think "What a tool!"..

 

[Pogo]

I admire success. Only liberals admire failure.

It has nothing to do with being scum. It has to do with your inability to become one of those scums. If you did have the ability, you would do it in a second as any one of us would.

I could never understand this jealousy of successful people by the left. Tell me why are wall street bankers scum, and not actors or actresses, Apple and Microsoft computers, sports figures and Hollywood? After all, they make just as much money (or more) with much less education than wall street bankers.

Yeah, this is the funny part. It's a worldview thing I guess.
I am so far from jealous of these people it is unbelievable. You think like Trump "I am rich, I [think] I'm successful, ergo I must a nice guy and everybody must like me ergo everybody must want to be me".

No. It doesn't work like that. Wall St types are just leeches.

What do Hollywood types give us? Laughter. Sadness. Scare the shit out of us. Entertain us. Oh, and if their pictures or shows fail, they go down the gurgler. Just ask Dana Plato, or Erin Moran, or any other failed star whose life has ended in the gutter. Who on Wall St went to prison after the GFC? None. Who still kept their bonuses? And what do they bring to the table.

You somehow think that if somebody is rich, they are somehow more worthy. A better person. Somebody worth admiring. Some are. Some aren't. One of the most famous poor people I know of is Mother Teresa. She is worth more than all the Wall St leeches put together.

I admire a lot of rich people. Buffet. Gates. Spielberg. Winfrey. A whole raft of people. Don't mistake my disdain for that middle-aged bonds trader worth a couple of hundred million who has given not a single cent to the betterment of humanity, all the while living in a 10-bedroom mansion when only two people live, as me not liking success. I love success. I just don't follow it blindly, or believe that being rich = hard work. Trump hasn't worked a day in his life...he makes money of his father's good fortune, and nothing but a loud mouth braggart who has given the world nothing but gauche, over-the-top gold-laden casinos and shitty reality shows. And if you want to admire that, good for you. I'm not buying his snake oil.

The rich more worthy? This is obviously true in a capitalist system to get rich other people have to buy your stuff and not buy other people's stuff they buy your stuff because they are free and like it better and have determined that it increases the quality of their life how would you like to live in a society where people entrusted with raising your standard of living we're not rewarded for doing so and therefore did not have any interest in raising your standard of living. This is why 120 million people slowly died in the USSR and red China. You need to learn humility before God and before rich people and before Republican capitalism. yes they are more worthy or worth more because other people have decided that by buying their products over any other products that they might have bought with the same money do you understand now?

:::snore:::

Let's cut it to the chase. The rich are "more worthy" only in a commodity-fetish culture, where accumulation of money is a value thing in itself. A culture that literally worships the Religion of Money. It's that simple. There's no other reason a person who has accumulated (or inherited) enough money would go on accumulating more that he can't spend.

And number two, capitalism was around waaaaaaaaaay before "Republicans" were invented in 1854. Capitalism in fact is how we got slaves here. They didn't do that for free.

What pure bigotry to suggest capitalism and slavery are related when you had slavery for 10,000 years in every century on every continent in fact capitalism discourages slavery and other negative interactions between people because it is all about pleasing other people if you don't please your workers and customers more than anyone else on earth you are driven into bankruptcy it encourages love not hate

The point STANDS, little man. The slave trade operated on the basis of capitalism. The slave merchants SOLD people; the slave holders BOUGHT people. That's capitalism Dimbulb.

But there's more --- the slave holders BOUGHT people as 'capital' -- a resource to keep their operating costs down, so they could make more money, typically on selling cotton but other crops as well. That's capitalism too, Nimrod. And the fact that it was profitable to OWN people, in the South, was the reason it kept holding on to the practice of slavery well after the rest of the world was abolishing it, and led to civil war. That's capitalism three, Dumbo.

So if you want to yammer on with this insipid moronity about "Republicans inventing capitalism" --- even though they didn't exist until 1854 --- then you're digging your own hole, and you're doing it for nothing.

Do you underfuckingstand?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

What you did buy into are the stereotypes you imagine.

How do you know what those wall street people donate to charity? How do you know what humanitarian things they did or didn't do? You just assume. People don't donate a ton of money and then walk around with a tee shirt saying so. When Oprah donated two dollars, she made sure everybody in the country watching her knew about it. She even made shows about it.

If you think Trump didn't work a day in his life, obviously you're living in a basement somewhere and nowhere near business. I've seen it first hand. I've seen companies handed down to the children that went belly up in a matter of a few years; silver spoons that just assumed Dad's business ran by itself and was an automatic wealth machine.

Most people with things in life work for them, it's just that some make more money than others. But just because they don't lift roof shingles all day long or tow cars for a living doesn't mean they don't work.

Money is responsibility. There are several books out there about lottery winners that ended up dead broke because they didn't know how to handle money. They didn't hire people to manage their money, they didn't seek professional advice, they didn't seek education on financial matters, they spent like their winnings were never ending, and some even ended up in serious debt and even bankruptcy.

Yeah, and those Wall St types donate with other peoples money that they have just moved around. Read The Big Short and if you can't be bothered reading it, watch the movie. Even THEY know they are rorting the system. You know they were responsible for the GFC and not one of them went to prison. Not ONE. You have guys ripping off consumers for 1000s of dollars, they at least get community service or some time in the slammer. I concur, people lose money all the time. Trump has filed for Chapter 11 no less than six times. Now, somebody else on here said it was a good business move. Probably was. But I would suggest if you have had to file for bankruptcy protection six times, business may not be your thing. How many times has Buffet or Gates filed for Chapter 11? Never.

I guess that depends on the type of business you're in. Real estate is a gamble because prices frequently change. I think it would be much harder to find your company in bankruptcy when you manufacture computers and software and sell them. Even GM was in bankruptcy. Does that mean GM shouldn't sell cars???

Obama had eight years to go after anybody he wanted. Never touched them.

 

[Norman]

Wasn't this the guy who sold his soul to Clinton, just so he could have yet a other mansion?

Rich...

 

[Pogo]

Wasn't this the guy who sold his soul to Clinton, just so he could have yet a other mansion?

Rich...

No Dumbass. Try actually reading the thread. Once again for you slow kids, the house was inherited by his wife, from her dead parents. Had nothing to do with anyone named "Clinton".

 

[Dr Grump]

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I guess that depends on the type of business you're in. Real estate is a gamble because prices frequently change. I think it would be much harder to find your company in bankruptcy when you manufacture computers and software and sell them. Even GM was in bankruptcy. Does that mean GM shouldn't sell cars???

Obama had eight years to go after anybody he wanted. Never touched them.

Business is littered with failed computer hardware and software businesses. Don't use the type of business as an excuse. Even in real estate, sure Chapter 11 one or two times. But six? No, that's just bad business practice.

And while we're at it, let's not forget the reason Trump is not releasing his tax returns because it'll show what a blowhard braggart he is. You know, I know, everybody knows the reason he is being coy because it'll show he not worth anywhere near the amount he says he is.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

They don't need any Yachts.

Why, because you can't have one?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

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I guess that depends on the type of business you're in. Real estate is a gamble because prices frequently change. I think it would be much harder to find your company in bankruptcy when you manufacture computers and software and sell them. Even GM was in bankruptcy. Does that mean GM shouldn't sell cars???

Obama had eight years to go after anybody he wanted. Never touched them.

Business is littered with failed computer hardware and software businesses. Don't use the type of business as an excuse. Even in real estate, sure Chapter 11 one or two times. But six? No, that's just bad business practice.

And while we're at it, let's not forget the reason Trump is not releasing his tax returns because it'll show what a blowhard braggart he is. You know, I know, everybody knows the reason he is being coy because it'll show he not worth anywhere near the amount he says he is.

Even if that was the case (as Hillary once said) what difference at this point does it make???

Some on your side of the fence suspect Russian business deals as the reason he's not releasing his tax returns. Others are claiming that he was cheap with charity. Some are desperate to show he didn't pay a lot in taxes. Your claim is that he isn't worth what he says he is. Which is it????

Of course the tax return that was found by the left showed that he made a lot of money and paid a lot of taxes. No ties to any nefarious country or organization. It's the same circus we went through when Romney ran for President.