San Jose cops gang up on a person filming them.

[Godboy]

Bull shit. You have no idea what transpired to cause the cops to react the way they did. I would hazard a guess it was appropriate training.........

**** you.
I see it very clearly. Are you saying the first cop had a right to attack because of something the guy said ??

Armed soldiers shouldn't act so trigger happy. 50% of the reason tourism is down in the US is our laws and police state people are afraid of. The world is watching .

No, because he approached the cop in a threatening manner.

When a cop approaches me in a threatening manner and I shove him back, what charges get filed on me?

That is assaulting a cop. You cant do that. Are you under the impression that civilians have the same authority to use force as cops have?

 

[freyasman]

Welcome to the United States of America.

That guy walked up to the cops line, they push him back and he starts swinging punches non stop at every cop in sight until they take him down. He should have been shot in the face. You dont get to attack cops.

But they get to attack everyone else?


No, I don't think so.

They get to attack anyone who makes an aggressive move at them.

What aggressive move? Walking up to them?

Then I guess cops can't approach anyone to question them about their behavior then, because that would constitute an "aggressive move", and justify a violent reaction.

You can't have it both ways. If it's wrong to do to the cops, then it's wrong when the cops do it to someone else.

14th Amendment; equal protection under the law.

 

[freyasman]

Welcome to the United States of America.

That guy walked up to the cops line, they push him back and he starts swinging punches non stop at every cop in sight until they take him down. He should have been shot in the face. You dont get to attack cops.

But they get to attack everyone else?


No, I don't think so.

They get to attack anyone who makes an aggressive move at them. Its called "use of force continuum". Look it up.

I actually teach classes in it, trying to lecture me about it is good way to embarrass yourself.

You go ahead though.

 

[Godboy]

Welcome to the United States of America.

That guy walked up to the cops line, they push him back and he starts swinging punches non stop at every cop in sight until they take him down. He should have been shot in the face. You dont get to attack cops.

But they get to attack everyone else?


No, I don't think so.

They get to attack anyone who makes an aggressive move at them. Its called "use of force continuum". Look it up.

I actually teach classes in it, trying to lecture me about it is good way to embarrass yourself.

You go ahead though.

If you taught a class in it, i wouldnt have had to explain it to you.

 

[Ringel05]

Bull shit. You have no idea what transpired to cause the cops to react the way they did. I would hazard a guess it was appropriate training.........

**** you.
I see it very clearly. Are you saying the first cop had a right to attack because of something the guy said ??

Armed soldiers shouldn't act so trigger happy. 50% of the reason tourism is down in the US is our laws and police state people are afraid of. The world is watching .

No, because he approached the cop in a threatening manner.

When a cop approaches me in a threatening manner and I shove him back, what charges get filed on me?

Assaulting a police officer.

 

[Ringel05]

Welcome to the United States of America.

That guy walked up to the cops line, they push him back and he starts swinging punches non stop at every cop in sight until they take him down. He should have been shot in the face. You dont get to attack cops.

But they get to attack everyone else?


No, I don't think so.

They get to attack anyone who makes an aggressive move at them. Its called "use of force continuum". Look it up.

I actually teach classes in it, trying to lecture me about it is good way to embarrass yourself.

You go ahead though.

You teach it? What specifically do you teach?

 

[freyasman]

Bull shit. You have no idea what transpired to cause the cops to react the way they did. I would hazard a guess it was appropriate training.........

**** you.
I see it very clearly. Are you saying the first cop had a right to attack because of something the guy said ??

Armed soldiers shouldn't act so trigger happy. 50% of the reason tourism is down in the US is our laws and police state people are afraid of. The world is watching .

No, because he approached the cop in a threatening manner.

When a cop approaches me in a threatening manner and I shove him back, what charges get filed on me?

That is assaulting a cop. You cant do that. Are you under the impression that civilians have the same authority to use force as cops have?

Under the law, yes they do...... badges don't grant extra rights.

Now the way the law is applied in practice is a whole different thing........ and that discrepancy between the letter of the law and it's actual practice is why so many folks are pissed off enough to burn down police stations and torch cop cars.

If a law doesn't apply to everyone, then it doesn't apply to anyone.

 

[freyasman]

Welcome to the United States of America.

That guy walked up to the cops line, they push him back and he starts swinging punches non stop at every cop in sight until they take him down. He should have been shot in the face. You dont get to attack cops.

But they get to attack everyone else?


No, I don't think so.

They get to attack anyone who makes an aggressive move at them. Its called "use of force continuum". Look it up.

I actually teach classes in it, trying to lecture me about it is good way to embarrass yourself.

You go ahead though.

If you taught a class in it, i wouldnt have had to explain it to you.

You didn't explain anything, you just showed me that you don't understand the concept.

 

[freyasman]

Bull shit. You have no idea what transpired to cause the cops to react the way they did. I would hazard a guess it was appropriate training.........

**** you.
I see it very clearly. Are you saying the first cop had a right to attack because of something the guy said ??

Armed soldiers shouldn't act so trigger happy. 50% of the reason tourism is down in the US is our laws and police state people are afraid of. The world is watching .

No, because he approached the cop in a threatening manner.

When a cop approaches me in a threatening manner and I shove him back, what charges get filed on me?

Assaulting a police officer.

Exactly.

 

[Ringel05]

Bull shit. You have no idea what transpired to cause the cops to react the way they did. I would hazard a guess it was appropriate training.........

**** you.
I see it very clearly. Are you saying the first cop had a right to attack because of something the guy said ??

Armed soldiers shouldn't act so trigger happy. 50% of the reason tourism is down in the US is our laws and police state people are afraid of. The world is watching .

No, because he approached the cop in a threatening manner.

When a cop approaches me in a threatening manner and I shove him back, what charges get filed on me?

Assaulting a police officer.

Exactly.

You still didn't tell me exactly what you teach but also where and to whom?

 

[the other mike]

 

[freyasman]

Welcome to the United States of America.

That guy walked up to the cops line, they push him back and he starts swinging punches non stop at every cop in sight until they take him down. He should have been shot in the face. You dont get to attack cops.

But they get to attack everyone else?


No, I don't think so.

They get to attack anyone who makes an aggressive move at them. Its called "use of force continuum". Look it up.

I actually teach classes in it, trying to lecture me about it is good way to embarrass yourself.

You go ahead though.

You teach it? What specifically do you teach?

I'm a security consultant and I instruct folks in personal security strategies and techniques. I also train security and staff at various facilities, and I am a MOAB instructor.
I also work security at an ER in H-town; I go hands on almost every night, and it's almost always on film, and I don't have a badge and a police union to shield me from prosecution.

I know what I'm talking about; I know what the law actually says, and I know how shit actually happens, in spite of it. And I get why people are pissed off about it.

 

[the other mike]

It's world-wide now.

 

[Ringel05]

Welcome to the United States of America.

That guy walked up to the cops line, they push him back and he starts swinging punches non stop at every cop in sight until they take him down. He should have been shot in the face. You dont get to attack cops.

But they get to attack everyone else?


No, I don't think so.

They get to attack anyone who makes an aggressive move at them. Its called "use of force continuum". Look it up.

I actually teach classes in it, trying to lecture me about it is good way to embarrass yourself.

You go ahead though.

You teach it? What specifically do you teach?

I'm a security consultant and I instruct folks in personal security strategies and techniques. I also train security and staff at various facilities, and I am a MOAB instructor.
I also work security at an ER in H-town; I go hands on almost every night, and it's almost always on film, and I don't have a badge and a police union to shield me from prosecution.

I know what I'm talking about; I know what the law actually says, and I know how shit actually happens, in spite of it. And I get why people are pissed off about it.

I know how shit happens also, did a lot of the same kind of work you do only in the Commonwealth of Virginia and DC Federal. I also carried a badge but was not a uniformed cop, my work was consulting and field analysis. So you should know as well as I do the psychology of human reactions in highly stressful and potentially dangerous situations. I assume you're aware of the inattentional blindness functionality and it's affects upon instant reaction decisions.

 

[JOSweetHeart]

Aren't cops supposed to be on film now anyways from wearing body cameras?

God bless you always!!!

Holly

 

[freyasman]

Welcome to the United States of America.

That guy walked up to the cops line, they push him back and he starts swinging punches non stop at every cop in sight until they take him down. He should have been shot in the face. You dont get to attack cops.

But they get to attack everyone else?


No, I don't think so.

They get to attack anyone who makes an aggressive move at them. Its called "use of force continuum". Look it up.

I actually teach classes in it, trying to lecture me about it is good way to embarrass yourself.

You go ahead though.

You teach it? What specifically do you teach?

I'm a security consultant and I instruct folks in personal security strategies and techniques. I also train security and staff at various facilities, and I am a MOAB instructor.
I also work security at an ER in H-town; I go hands on almost every night, and it's almost always on film, and I don't have a badge and a police union to shield me from prosecution.

I know what I'm talking about; I know what the law actually says, and I know how shit actually happens, in spite of it. And I get why people are pissed off about it.

I know how shit happens also, did a lot of the same kind of work you do only in the Commonwealth of Virginia and DC Federal. I also carried a badge but was not a uniformed cop, my work was consulting and analysis. So you should know as well as I do the psychology of human reactions in highly stressful and potentially dangerous situations. I assume you're aware of the inattentional blindness functionality and it's affects upon instant reaction decisions.

I get what's happening here and I get why, and if I was in that line with the riot cops I'd be doing the same thing most likely..... which is why I'm not there, and I refuse to be. You gotta ride for the brand, and if you can't do that, draw your wages and be on your way.

I've been saying this over and over, pull the cops out as much as possible. Get them out of there.

Fire needs 3 things; fuel, heat, and oxygen...... take one of those out of the equation and nothing burns.

Get the cops out of there and let the people on the ground sort it out; don't prosecute any of them for doing it either. It will keep things like this from occurring and adding fuel to the agitators fire, and "absence makes the heart grow fonder"..... people will have more appreciation for the good cops do if they aren't around for awhile. But nobody will care about any good they may do while they are in your face screaming orders and shoving and beating people.

Peelian principles - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

From the link;

4. To recognise always that the extent to which the co-operation of the public can be secured diminishes proportionately the necessity of the use of physical force and compulsion for achieving police objectives.


You can't impose "order"..... not for long anyway. People have to want it, or they will burn your police station down.

 

[Ringel05]

Welcome to the United States of America.

That guy walked up to the cops line, they push him back and he starts swinging punches non stop at every cop in sight until they take him down. He should have been shot in the face. You dont get to attack cops.

But they get to attack everyone else?


No, I don't think so.

They get to attack anyone who makes an aggressive move at them. Its called "use of force continuum". Look it up.

I actually teach classes in it, trying to lecture me about it is good way to embarrass yourself.

You go ahead though.

You teach it? What specifically do you teach?

I'm a security consultant and I instruct folks in personal security strategies and techniques. I also train security and staff at various facilities, and I am a MOAB instructor.
I also work security at an ER in H-town; I go hands on almost every night, and it's almost always on film, and I don't have a badge and a police union to shield me from prosecution.

I know what I'm talking about; I know what the law actually says, and I know how shit actually happens, in spite of it. And I get why people are pissed off about it.

I know how shit happens also, did a lot of the same kind of work you do only in the Commonwealth of Virginia and DC Federal. I also carried a badge but was not a uniformed cop, my work was consulting and analysis. So you should know as well as I do the psychology of human reactions in highly stressful and potentially dangerous situations. I assume you're aware of the inattentional blindness functionality and it's affects upon instant reaction decisions.

I get what's happening here and I get why, and if I was in that line with the riot cops I'd be doing the same thing most likely..... which is why I'm not there, and I refuse to be. You gotta ride for the brand, and if you can't do that, draw your wages and be on your way.

I've been saying this over and over, pull the cops out as much as possible. Get them out of there.

Fire needs 3 things; fuel, heat, and oxygen...... take one of those out of the equation and nothing burns.

Get the cops out of there and let the people on the ground sort it out; don't prosecute any of them for doing it either. It will keep things like this from occurring and adding fuel to the agitators fire, and "absence makes the heart grow fonder"..... people will have more appreciation for the good cops do if they aren't around for awhile. But nobody will care about any good they may do while they are in your face screaming orders and shoving and beating people.

Peelian principles - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

From the link;

4. To recognise always that the extent to which the co-operation of the public can be secured diminishes proportionately the necessity of the use of physical force and compulsion for achieving police objectives.


You can't impose "order"..... not for long anyway. People have to want it, or they will burn your police station down.

So basically you promote anarchy. I beg to differ. Wanton destruction and looting is never acceptable and should be prevented and punished.

 

[blastoff]

Aren’t there any other camera angles to view? These days he’s the only one around there with a camera? Wonder what the cops were doing there in the first place that drew camera guy’s attention to video it?

 

[the other mike]

Get the cops out of there and let the people on the ground sort it out; don't prosecute any of them for doing it either.

I don't think the first amendment allows for looting and burning stores.

 

[freyasman]

Welcome to the United States of America.

That guy walked up to the cops line, they push him back and he starts swinging punches non stop at every cop in sight until they take him down. He should have been shot in the face. You dont get to attack cops.

But they get to attack everyone else?


No, I don't think so.

They get to attack anyone who makes an aggressive move at them. Its called "use of force continuum". Look it up.

I actually teach classes in it, trying to lecture me about it is good way to embarrass yourself.

You go ahead though.

You teach it? What specifically do you teach?

I'm a security consultant and I instruct folks in personal security strategies and techniques. I also train security and staff at various facilities, and I am a MOAB instructor.
I also work security at an ER in H-town; I go hands on almost every night, and it's almost always on film, and I don't have a badge and a police union to shield me from prosecution.

I know what I'm talking about; I know what the law actually says, and I know how shit actually happens, in spite of it. And I get why people are pissed off about it.

I know how shit happens also, did a lot of the same kind of work you do only in the Commonwealth of Virginia and DC Federal. I also carried a badge but was not a uniformed cop, my work was consulting and analysis. So you should know as well as I do the psychology of human reactions in highly stressful and potentially dangerous situations. I assume you're aware of the inattentional blindness functionality and it's affects upon instant reaction decisions.

I get what's happening here and I get why, and if I was in that line with the riot cops I'd be doing the same thing most likely..... which is why I'm not there, and I refuse to be. You gotta ride for the brand, and if you can't do that, draw your wages and be on your way.

I've been saying this over and over, pull the cops out as much as possible. Get them out of there.

Fire needs 3 things; fuel, heat, and oxygen...... take one of those out of the equation and nothing burns.

Get the cops out of there and let the people on the ground sort it out; don't prosecute any of them for doing it either. It will keep things like this from occurring and adding fuel to the agitators fire, and "absence makes the heart grow fonder"..... people will have more appreciation for the good cops do if they aren't around for awhile. But nobody will care about any good they may do while they are in your face screaming orders and shoving and beating people.

Peelian principles - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

From the link;

4. To recognise always that the extent to which the co-operation of the public can be secured diminishes proportionately the necessity of the use of physical force and compulsion for achieving police objectives.


You can't impose "order"..... not for long anyway. People have to want it, or they will burn your police station down.

So basically you promote anarchy. I beg to differ. Wanton destruction and looting is never acceptable and should be prevented and punished.

Anarchy is not chaos.