Rx for the Democrats

[dblack]

Well, at least you admit you lost…that’s a start.

And what exactly do you propose for them? Re education? Prison? Death? What?



What would fix that in your mind?

Ranked choice voting, multi-representative districts, and - mostly - voters just growing up a little. And I think that can happen. It always seems like it can't get any worse, but - it always does.

Everybody has a voice in this system.

LOL - sure, sure.

 

[j-mac]

Ranked choice voting, multi-representative districts, and - mostly - voters just growing up a little. And I think that can happen. It always seems like it can't get any worse, but - it always does.

LOL - sure, sure.

RCV destroys transparency​

RCV elections that require multiple rounds of tabulation rely on computers to make adjustments, or discard, ballots in each round. There is no way to quickly confirm the accuracy of the computer processes involved. This is why, in an RCV election in California, a data entry error went undetected and the wrong winner was certified.

RCV weakens accountability​

A recount, sometimes by hand, is required to verify the results in close or questionable elections. RCV makes this more difficult, and in some cases could make it impossible. But RCV also makes it more likely, because each round presents a new opportunity for a close margin. The complexity of a multi-round RCV election, particularly if there are many candidates and hundreds of thousands of ballots, would make a hand recount impossible within the limited time required before certifying an election.

Ranked-Choice Voting News Roundup - April 2025​

Apr 25, 2025 by Staff

Risks of Ranked-Choice Voting

Ranked-Choice Voting threatens our elections.It’s more complicated, more partisan, and less transparent. Ranked-choice voting is wrong for our elections.

stoprcv.com

 

[dblack]

RCV destroys transparency​

RCV elections that require multiple rounds of tabulation rely on computers to make adjustments, or discard, ballots in each round. There is no way to quickly confirm the accuracy of the computer processes involved. This is why, in an RCV election in California, a data entry error went undetected and the wrong winner was certified.

RCV weakens accountability​

A recount, sometimes by hand, is required to verify the results in close or questionable elections. RCV makes this more difficult, and in some cases could make it impossible. But RCV also makes it more likely, because each round presents a new opportunity for a close margin. The complexity of a multi-round RCV election, particularly if there are many candidates and hundreds of thousands of ballots, would make a hand recount impossible within the limited time required before certifying an election.

Ranked-Choice Voting News Roundup - April 2025​

Apr 25, 2025 by Staff

Risks of Ranked-Choice Voting

Ranked-Choice Voting threatens our elections.It’s more complicated, more partisan, and less transparent. Ranked-choice voting is wrong for our elections.

stoprcv.com

I know, I know. Ds and Rs hate it. Which should tell us something.

 

[j-mac]

I know, I know. Ds and Rs hate it. Which should tell us something.

Because it’s a bullshit system that disenfranchises voters.

 

[dblack]

Because it’s a bullshit system that disenfranchises voters.

LOL - yeah. That's the ticket.

It also undermines the power of the Democrats and Republicans to decide who we "get" to vote for. And we can't have that!

 

[j-mac]

LOL - yeah. That's the ticket.

It also undermines the power of the Democrats and Republicans to decide who we "get" to vote for. And we can't have that!

You already have a primary system...What's wrong with that?

 

[dblack]

You already have a primary system...What's wrong with that?

All kinds of things.

In general, the two biggest problems with the way we elect leaders are: The lesser-of-two-evils voting "strategy". And gerrymandering. RCV would get rid of lo2e, and multi-rep districts would get rid of gerrymandering.

 

[j-mac]

All kinds of things.

In general, the two biggest problems with the way we elect leaders are: The lesser-of-two-evils voting "strategy". And gerrymandering. RCV would get rid of lo2e, and multi-rep districts would get rid of gerrymandering.

RCV will never become reality, no matter how much you was a plurality loser in charge.

 

[Delldude]

So you don't hold to the Democrat platform that Biden was sharp as a tack?

Since Harris didn't notice Biden's problems, and thought he was capable, really doesn't say much for her at all.

I heard she was putting grease on the steps to the WH living quarters.

 

[Robert W]

No, you weren't.

Trump won because Biden was senile and Harris didn't have enough time to find a voice or a rationale for being elected.

Democrats aren't going to win by becoming "Republican Lite" and emulating their racism, misogyny, and homophobia.

Given a choice between Meat and Tofu, most people will choose meat.

So you blame Democrats for lack of correct planning.
We are not racists or misogynists or do we have homophobia.
You are the champion of all 3.

 

[Robert W]

No, I know exactly why we lost.

The system failed.

Now we are all going to pay a hefty price for it as Trump collapses the economy.

It was your system. Trump has finally set the presidency and administration on the correct path. When the media talks about the collapsing economy of China, they will finally come to their senses and the tariffs will vanish against them.

 

[jc456]

Lol --- Biden, Trump. Nuff said.

Why can’t you find someone?

 

[dblack]

Why can’t you find someone?

I've found lots of good candidates outside the two-party circle jerk. And I've voted for them?

But seriously, Trump, Biden, Harris? If that's the best you can do, throw in the towel. You're doing it wrong.

 

[Billiejeens]

No, you weren't.

Trump won because Biden was senile and Harris didn't have enough time to find a voice or a rationale for being elected.

Democrats aren't going to win by becoming "Republican Lite" and emulating their racism, misogyny, and homophobia.

Given a choice between Meat and Tofu, most people will choose meat.

Keep pushing that
Please I'm begging ya

 

[Billiejeens]

I've found lots of good candidates outside the two-party circle jerk. And I've voted for them?

But seriously, Trump, Biden, Harris? If that's the best you can do, throw in the towel. You're doing it wrong.

5th party, of course.

 

[Billiejeens]

What nonsense, Chatbot. Harris lost because she was a horrible candidate and a complete buffoon.

It was a more pervasive problem than just that.

 

[jc456]

I've found lots of good candidates outside the two-party circle jerk. And I've voted for them?

But seriously, Trump, Biden, Harris? If that's the best you can do, throw in the towel. You're doing it wrong.

Why can’t those guys gain energy? Post what they would do?

 

[jc456]

5th party, of course.

Maybe they should get congressional candidates into congress to draw attention to them

 

[JoeB131]

I just can't quite understand the mass idiocy of looking at two candidates, whom most of us rightly conclude are mentally unfit, and thinking, "Oh well, guess I gotta pick one of them."

WTF??

Well, yes, we have to pick one of two qualified candidates.

As opposed to the Libertarian Children or the Greens who vote for people who have no chance of ever winning and wouldn't know what to do if they did.

 

[jc456]

Well, yes, we have to pick one of two qualified candidates.

As opposed to the Libertarian Children or the Greens who vote for people who have no chance of ever winning and wouldn't know what to do if they did.

No experience at all.