Rx for the Democrats

[IM2]

It's so deeply embedded in the party dogma that they don't want to let it go.

You are wrong mac.

 

[Mac1958]

Again, the very thing you say has worked against the Democrats are what Republicans usedto win the election. America denies itsreal probem and you deny it too. Harris dodn't use PC or Identity poitics.

TRUMP BROUGHT UP RACE. TRUMP BOUGHT UP TRANSGENDER or other "PC" issues. IMMIGRATION WAS AN ISSUED BASED ON IDENTITY!

Everything Trump did was based on identity. Trump could call half the nation garbage, radical left lunatics, or the enemy of the people, but when Biden called Trump supporters trash, well then PC rhetoric was the problem. The ONLY group that slipped as far as minorites was Hispanic men. Women of color voted for Harris. 80 percentof black men voted for Trump, just like 80 percent of black men voted for him 4 years ago. It was WHITE men/women who voted for Trump. It was WHITES in the majority that voted for Trump. You are completely wrong Mac.

This is not about Harris. This has been going on for years, decades. The resentment has been increasing all that time. Now it's exploded all over the Democratic Party.

And yes, the GQP leveraged the shit out of it, because they know it's a winning issue. They owe you guys a giant Thank You card.

 

[IM2]

Absolutely agree. Republicans aren't doing away with identity politics. They're just getting revenge.

Repubicans created identity politics. They've run on it since Nixon in 1968. So they weren't getting revenge, they used race baiting to win an election.

 

[dblack]

You are wrong mac.

Wrong on which, that identity politics is deeply embedded, or that they won't let it go?

 

[dblack]

Repubicans created identity politics. They've run on it since Nixon in 1968. So they weren't getting revenge, they used race baiting to win an election.

What's your point? Are you just making excuses for refusing to change?

 

[IM2]

This is not about Harris. This has been going on for years, decades. The resentment has been increasing all that time. Now it's exploded all over the Democratic Party.

And yes, the GQP leveraged the shit out of it, because they know it's a winning issue. They owe you guys a giant Thank You card.

Mac, I know whats been going on here. The resentment started by the singing of the Civil Rights Act. There has been a continuing white backlash since that time. The hysteria got even more pronounced after a black man won the presidency. That along with a shrinking white population has the right hitting the panic button.

Democrats didn't begin this dumb ass, get that registered into your accomodationist mind.

 

[IM2]

Wrong on which, that identity politics is deeply embedded, or that they won't let it go?

Both.

 

[Mac1958]

Mac, I know whats been going on here. The resentment started by the singing of the Civil Rights Act. There has been a continuing white backlash since that time. The hysteria got even more pronounced after a black man won the presidency. That along with a shrinking white population has the right hitting the panic button.

Democrats didn't begin this dumb ass, get that registered into your accomodationist mind.

Okay, keep running with it. Keep doing all those things I list in the OP.

It's working out GREAT for ya!

 

[dblack]

Here's another good article on the topic. Will the ostriches read it? Will they get it?

Opinion | Democrats and the Case of Mistaken Identity Politics

The post mortem is a wake for woke.

www.nytimes.com

 

[IM2]

What's your point? Are you just making excuses for refusing to change?

My point is that Republicans invented identity poLitics. They have used it since the Civil Rights Act and that includes this election.

Democrats won in 2018, 2020, 2022, and yet the identity politics of Democrats are the fucking problem.

 

[IM2]

Okay, keep running with it. Keep doing all those things I list in the OP.

It's working out GREAT for ya!

Democrats won in 2018, 2020, 2022, dumb ass. So whatever you think the problem is must have been working.

 

[IM2]

Here's another good article on the topic. Will the ostriches read it? Will they get it?

Opinion | Democrats and the Case of Mistaken Identity Politics

The post mortem is a wake for woke.

www.nytimes.com

The ostriches wrote this article.

 

[Mac1958]

Here's another good article on the topic. Will the ostriches read it? Will they get it?

Opinion | Democrats and the Case of Mistaken Identity Politics

The post mortem is a wake for woke.

www.nytimes.com

Much to my surprise, I have seen a couple of lefties talking about this. James Carville has been pretty funny. "I told you so!"

They need to change their approach.

 

[Mac1958]

Democrats won in 2018, 2020, 2022, dumb ass. So whatever you think the problem is must have been working.

Funny how I get the personal insults and name-calling from both far ends of the spectrum.

That tells me I'm nailing it. Good.

 

[dblack]

My point is that Republicans invented identity poLitics. They have used it since the Civil Rights Act and that includes this election.

I guess it doesn't matter to me who invented it.

Democrats won in 2018, 2020, 2022, and yet the identity politics of Democrats are the fucking problem.

Yes. Democrats and Republicans always win. Weevils.

 

[dblack]

Much to my surprise, I have seen a couple of lefties talking about this. James Carville has been pretty funny. "I told you so!"

They need to change their approach.

But they don't really need to. That's the problem. The power-sharing arrangement of the two-party system ensures they'll be back in power. If we survive the kayfabe Trump administration, Dems will be voted back in, flaws and all. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

 

[Mac1958]

But they don't really need to. That's the problem. The power-sharing arrangement of the two-party system ensures they'll be back in power. If we survive the kayfabe Trump administration, Dems will be voted back in, flaws and all. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

As long as the GQP doesn't change the voting system and refuse to certify elections, that's my guess too.

I'm just not sure what is going to happen in that area.

 

[dblack]

As long as the GQP doesn't change the voting system and refuse to certify elections, that's my guess too.

I'm just not sure what is going to happen in that area.

Yeah. I've pretty much given up hope. Watching the Ds and Rs join forces to crush ranked choice voting has convinced me we're trapped. It's going to have to get much worse before it gets better.

 

[IM2]

Much to my surprise, I have seen a couple of lefties talking about this. James Carville has been pretty funny. "I told you so!"

They need to change their approach.

James Carville is wrong.

 

[dblack]

James Carville is wrong.

Stay the course! Everything is going so well, why change?