Russia will never be awarded Ukraine territory gained by Russia's invasion

[Correll]

North Korea has declined, should we let it have South Korea too?

I don't understand your argument.

Clearly you don't. YOur analogy proved that.

 

[Litwin]

 

[AlexanderPK]

"Let them try" - Putin says about EU fixing to fight a war with Russia.
"If anything, we're ready, even right now.
I'm afraid, though, there won't be no one to fight with, pretty soon."

 

[Zavulon]

Because you don't see much of anything.

Azov Brigade - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Most of the unit's members are Russian speakers from Russian-speaking regions of Ukraine

‘We are obliged to end the war’: A new Russian unit fights for Ukraine

The Siberian Battalion features a diverse set of fighters who risk Russia's wrath by joining the 'enemy'.

www.aljazeera.com

Nazification makes people think that they are not Russians and they should kill Russians.
Oversimplificated, there were three main ideological waves of Ukro-Nazification (all three were based on factual bullshit and propaganda)
1. In the middle of XIX century, Austria after recognisition of Czech threat, and understanding how powerful weapon could be "national-building" decided to make non-Russians from controlled by them part of Russian people (Galicians). So, they said - "You are not Russians, you are "Ukrainians" because you speak different language (not dialect of Russian). They sponsored making "Ukrainian language" from local dialect of Galician villagers. Really poor thing, practically useless for any purpose short of singing folk songs. What is even more important - for a poor and narrow-mind Galician villager everyone (including Moscowites, Jews, Poles and even "Ukrainians from Poltava") are aliens and Germans are "natural masters". One can use them for the violence and destruction, may be for some farming, but they can't make a tank or a gun. Really poor guys. Banderlogs or Raguls in the narrow meaning of the word. We can call it Ukronazism type I.

2. Second stage of Ukrainisation was Soviet. Extra-left communists government in 1920s saw "Great Russian Chauvinism" as the greatest threat for their national policy. You know, something like "positive discrimination" on steroids. Ukrainisation was a form of "rootinisation" and "nation-building" in Soviet Republics. So, they made "Derjavna Mova" (State's language) based not only Galician, but some other dialects, too. In fact, it, like Esperanto, is no one's first language. It is the language of bureaucratic features. State-loyal nazism is a form of loyalty to the state. "We are Ukrainians because our government said us that. We speak (sometimes), Ukrainian at job or because we demonstrate our loyalty to the current regime. It is so called "political Ukrainism" (or Ukronazism type II) and, say, Zelenskiy (Russian-speaking Jew) or Syrsky (ethnic Russian) are examples of that. After fall of the Soviet Union, political Ukrainism became just loyalty to pro-Western course.

3. Post-Soviet Ukrainian Neonazism, is a way to "Ukronazificate" mostly eastern, Russian-speaking population of the industrial, educated cosmopolitic Eastern Ukraine (Russians and "Russian-speaking Ukrainians"). Like, you know, Azov battalion/brigade/corps. It is classical western Neo-Nazism. You can't say to a man, speaking proper Russian language (usually even without any significant accent) that his language is not Russian. So, you tell him, that he is the only true Russian, while Moscowites are Mongols, Finno-Hungarians and Tatars and they are not Russians. Of course it is a lie and nazism in the modern Western understanding. We can call it Ukronazism type III.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Nazification makes people think that they are not Russians and they should kill Russians.
Oversimplificated, there were three main ideological waves of Ukro-Nazification (all three were based on factual bullshit and propaganda)
1. In the middle of XIX century, Austria after recognisition of Czech threat, and understanding how powerful weapon could be "national-building" decided to make non-Russians from controlled by them part of Russian people (Galicians). So, they said - "You are not Russians, you are "Ukrainians" because you speak different language (not dialect of Russian). They sponsored making "Ukrainian language" from local dialect of Galician villagers. Really poor thing, practically useless for any purpose short of singing folk songs. What is even more important - for a poor and narrow-mind Galician villager everyone (including Moscowites, Jews, Poles and even "Ukrainians from Poltava") are aliens and Germans are "natural masters". One can use them for the violence and destruction, may be for some farming, but they can't make a tank or a gun. Really poor guys. Banderlogs or Raguls in the narrow meaning of the word. We can call it Ukronazism type I.

2. Second stage of Ukrainisation was Soviet. Extra-left communists government in 1920s saw "Great Russian Chauvinism" as the greatest threat for their national policy. You know, something like "positive discrimination" on steroids. Ukrainisation was a form of "rootinisation" and "nation-building" in Soviet Republics. So, they made "Derjavna Mova" (State's language) based not only Galician, but some other dialects, too. In fact, it, like Esperanto, is no one's first language. It is the language of bureaucratic features. State-loyal nazism is a form of loyalty to the state. "We are Ukrainians because our government said us that. We speak (sometimes), Ukrainian at job or because we demonstrate our loyalty to the current regime. It is so called "political Ukrainism" (or Ukronazism type II) and, say, Zelenskiy (Russian-speaking Jew) or Syrsky (ethnic Russian) are examples of that. After fall of the Soviet Union, political Ukrainism became just loyalty to pro-Western course.

3. Post-Soviet Ukrainian Neonazism, is a way to "Ukronazificate" mostly eastern, Russian-speaking population of the industrial, educated cosmopolitic Eastern Ukraine (Russians and "Russian-speaking Ukrainians"). Like, you know, Azov battalion/brigade/corps. It is classical western Neo-Nazism. You can't say to a man, speaking proper Russian language (usually even without any significant accent) that his language is not Russian. So, you tell him, that he is the only true Russian, while Moscowites are Mongols, Finno-Hungarians and Tatars and they are not Russians. Of course it is a lie and nazism in the modern Western understanding. We can call it Ukronazism type III.

Putin propaganda is to rail against Nazis, while adopting their policies in Russia.

 

[Zavulon]

Putin propaganda is to rail against Nazis, while adopting their policies in Russia.

What do you mean?

 

[JoeB131]

Because you don't see much of anything.

Azov Brigade - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Most of the unit's members are Russian speakers from Russian-speaking regions of Ukraine

‘We are obliged to end the war’: A new Russian unit fights for Ukraine

The Siberian Battalion features a diverse set of fighters who risk Russia's wrath by joining the 'enemy'.

www.aljazeera.com

Seriously, you are praising the Azov Brigade? The Neo-Nazi Azov Brigade?

 

[AntonToo]

Nazification makes people think that they are not Russians and they should kill Russians.

Oh???

Because the way you tell it Nazification is when you don't want Russians getting killed while trying steal a piece of foreign land.

 

[AntonToo]

Seriously, you are praising the Azov Brigade? The Neo-Nazi Azov Brigade?

Can you stop with the bullshit dodges for just a min and just deal head on with what you quote.

You told me you didn't know about Russians fighting for Ukrainian sovreignty to which both I and a Putinist try to explain to you that there are many Russians fighting for Ukraine.

Do you aknowledge anyting? No, you try to divert to something about Azov (who are now just another brigade in AFU)

Your whole concept of this conflict being centered around ethnicity is just a silly fantasy not connected to relaity.

It's not about ethnicity, it's about Ukranian strive to be a democracy within EU, it's statehood, independance and sovernity.

 

[beagle9]

Ukraine is lucky it isn’t going back to the pre-USSR map:

View attachment 1189498

This is what they claim Putin was fantasizing about, but realistically it's probably the last thing that Putin wanted, otherwise for him to have to be killing the "future generation" of the the old former Soviet Union citizen's, otherwise who were once very proud Russians after defeating the Nazis during WW2.

The Ukrainians are truly Russians/Soviets that made a go of it in order to settle or create a new country with the blessings of Russia, so where did it all go wrong one wonders ????

It's truly a shame that so many up and coming young men and women are dying on a battlefield in such a horrendous war like this (on both sides).

 

[JoeB131]

Can you stop with the bullshit dodges for just a min and just deal head on with what you quote.

You told me you didn't know about Russians fighting for Ukrainian sovreignty to which both I and a Putinist try to explain to you that there are many Russians fighting for Ukraine.

Do you aknowledge anyting? No, you try to divert to something about Azov (who are now just another brigade in AFU)

Your whole concept of this conflict being centered around ethnicity is just a silly fantasy not connected to relaity.

It's not about ethnicity, it's about Ukranian strive to be a democracy within EU, it's statehood, independance and sovernity.

I'm sure that's the narrative that they want out there.

BUT THERE ARE ALWAYS TWO SIDES TO EVERY STORY!!!!

"Hey, Russian don't want to secede... See, we have these Nazis!!!"

The Bullshit is telling people that the Ukrainian "leadership" are doing anything other than getting their own people killed at this point.

Because when it's over, Zelenskyy is going to have some splaining to do.

 

[gtopa1]

Russia wants what was damaged by Russia to be added to Russia. Trump will allow it, but the
World who has helped Ukraine will not allow it. Stop watching Trump and pay attention to the European nations who help Ukraine go against Russian aggression. Trump made a mistake by raising hell with Ukraine.

Yeah; all those blankets sent by OBumbles really helped stop those tanks!!!

Trump prevented the defeat od the UKES by supplying Javelins etc etc etc. All Biden offered was a lift out a la Afghanistan.

Greg

 

[AntonToo]

I'm sure that's the narrative that they want out there.

Who is "they"?

The ethnic Russian Putinist here that is telling you that there are plenty of Russians fighting for Ukranian side or me, an ethnic Russian who fully supports democratic Ukrane defending itself against a fascist invasion?

Zelenskyy is doing his damn job and the moment he so much as thinks about rolling over to Russian invaders is the moment he will be gone, because he, with Ukraine's parlament works for the people of Ukraine, not the other way around.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Who is "they"?

The ethnic Russian Putinist here that is telling you that there are plenty of Russians fighting for Ukranian side or me, an ethnic Russian who fully supports democratic Ukrane defending itself against a fascist invasion?

Zelenskyy is doing his damn job and the moment he so much as thinks about rolling over to Russian invaders is the moment he will be gone, because he, with Ukraine's parlament works for the people of Ukraine, not the other way around.

Yes, well said. Zelensky isn't pushing his country to war. He is riding the wave, which is really more like trying to ride a wild horse. He is managing his ass off and trying to govern an invaded country with its fair share of corrupt people, who love taking advantage, when everyone else is looking the other way (like, while being invaded by a little maniac).

 

[AlexanderPK]

Yes, well said. Zelensky isn't pushing his country to war. He is riding the wave, which is really more like trying to ride a wild horse. He is managing his ass off and trying to govern an invaded country with its fair share of corrupt people, who love taking advantage, when everyone else is looking the other way (like, while being invaded by a little maniac).

Sniffing is what

he's basically engaged in, your hero fucktard. He's littler than Putin if you haven't noticed yet.

 

[Litwin]

Nazification makes people think that they are not Russians and they should kill Russians.
Oversimplificated, there were three main ideological waves of Ukro-Nazification (all three were based on factual bullshit and propaganda)
1. In the middle of XIX century, Austria after recognisition of Czech threat, and understanding how powerful weapon could be "national-building" decided to make non-Russians from controlled by them part of Russian people (Galicians). So, they said - "You are not Russians, you are "Ukrainians" because you speak different language (not dialect of Russian). They sponsored making "Ukrainian language" from local dialect of Galician villagers. Really poor thing, practically useless for any purpose short of singing folk songs. What is even more important - for a poor and narrow-mind Galician villager everyone (including Moscowites, Jews, Poles and even "Ukrainians from Poltava") are aliens and Germans are "natural masters". One can use them for the violence and destruction, may be for some farming, but they can't make a tank or a gun. Really poor guys. Banderlogs or Raguls in the narrow meaning of the word. We can call it Ukronazism type I.

2. Second stage of Ukrainisation was Soviet. Extra-left communists government in 1920s saw "Great Russian Chauvinism" as the greatest threat for their national policy. You know, something like "positive discrimination" on steroids. Ukrainisation was a form of "rootinisation" and "nation-building" in Soviet Republics. So, they made "Derjavna Mova" (State's language) based not only Galician, but some other dialects, too. In fact, it, like Esperanto, is no one's first language. It is the language of bureaucratic features. State-loyal nazism is a form of loyalty to the state. "We are Ukrainians because our government said us that. We speak (sometimes), Ukrainian at job or because we demonstrate our loyalty to the current regime. It is so called "political Ukrainism" (or Ukronazism type II) and, say, Zelenskiy (Russian-speaking Jew) or Syrsky (ethnic Russian) are examples of that. After fall of the Soviet Union, political Ukrainism became just loyalty to pro-Western course.

3. Post-Soviet Ukrainian Neonazism, is a way to "Ukronazificate" mostly eastern, Russian-speaking population of the industrial, educated cosmopolitic Eastern Ukraine (Russians and "Russian-speaking Ukrainians"). Like, you know, Azov battalion/brigade/corps. It is classical western Neo-Nazism. You can't say to a man, speaking proper Russian language (usually even without any significant accent) that his language is not Russian. So, you tell him, that he is the only true Russian, while Moscowites are Mongols, Finno-Hungarians and Tatars and they are not Russians. Of course it is a lie and nazism in the modern Western understanding. We can call it Ukronazism type III.

you are the worst nazi out there

Thread 'putin´s imperial 🇷🇺 Nazi Rusich battalion announced they will pay in crypto for next 3 executions videos.„Yes, I’m a 🇷🇺 nazi“ - Milchakov.'

Nov 16, 2025

putin´s imperial Nazi Rusich battalion announced they will pay in crypto for next 3 executions videos.

„Yes, I’m a nazi“
- Milchakov.

Rusich Group - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

yes as I wrote before , #Decolonization of Moscow empire is the only way to end Moscow wars of GENOCIDAL conquest, And I don’t mean putin´s imperialism, but Moscow imperialism in general , from navalny, pushkin and solzhenitsyn to dugin, and brodsky.

The Origins of Moscow predatory...

• Litwin
• Replies: 5
• Forum: Ukraine

 

[ThirdTerm]

Putin cannot expect Ukrainian forces to withdraw from Donbas voluntarily under a ceasefire agreement. They need to be pushed out of there so that Russia can gain full control of the eastern Donbas region (Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts). Putin has previously stated that if Ukrainian troops do not withdraw from Donbas, "we will only achieve our goals by force ."

Chief of General Staff Valery Gerasimov informed President Putin that Russian forces now hold all of Pokrovsk, known to them as Krasnoarmeysk, plus Vovchansk in Kharkiv region. The city lies in ruins after prolonged shelling and assaults, potentially easing Russian logistics for advances in Donetsk. Ukraine disputes the claim, with Zelenskyy saying fighting persists, while a NATO official notes Russia controls over 95% and the Institute for the Study of War finds evidence lacking as of December 1. Both sides trade accusations of fake videos in the fluid, symbolic struggle.

https://x.com/i/trending/1995638460137283633

 

[JoeB131]

Who is "they"?

The ethnic Russian Putinist here that is telling you that there are plenty of Russians fighting for Ukranian side or me, an ethnic Russian who fully supports democratic Ukrane defending itself against a fascist invasion?

Zelenskyy is doing his damn job and the moment he so much as thinks about rolling over to Russian invaders is the moment he will be gone, because he, with Ukraine's parlament works for the people of Ukraine, not the other way around.

Except he won't have a choice, especially after Trump pulls the rug out from underneath him.

Like it or not, any peace will be on Putin's terms.

 

[Deadstick]

Putin propaganda is to rail against Nazis, while adopting their policies in Russia.

Such as asshole?

 

[AlexanderPK]

Putin cannot expect Ukrainian forces to withdraw from Donbas voluntarily under a ceasefire agreement. They need to be pushed out of there so that Russia can gain full control of the eastern Donbas region (Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts). Putin has previously stated that if Ukrainian troops do not withdraw from Donbas, "we will only achieve our goals by force ."

Chief of General Staff Valery Gerasimov informed President Putin that Russian forces now hold all of Pokrovsk, known to them as Krasnoarmeysk, plus Vovchansk in Kharkiv region. The city lies in ruins after prolonged shelling and assaults, potentially easing Russian logistics for advances in Donetsk. Ukraine disputes the claim, with Zelenskyy saying fighting persists, while a NATO official notes Russia controls over 95% and the Institute for the Study of War finds evidence lacking as of December 1. Both sides trade accusations of fake videos in the fluid, symbolic struggle.

https://x.com/i/trending/1995638460137283633

Khokhlopithecuses clame that Russians stole their video and faked it inserting the Russian flag.