Russia will never be awarded Ukraine territory gained by Russia's invasion

[Deadstick]

And he supported and provided military aid to Ukraine since the full scale invasion began.

Maybe you forgot how Russians were ran out of Kiev, Kherson and Kharkiv regions, giving up half of the territories they occupied when invasion started. American military aid had a direct contribution to that.

Trump on the other hand stopped all that aid, clearly undermining Ukraine's defense. If Ukraine is to lose this war then history will deservingly blame it on Trump first and foremost.

You don't launch a full scale invasion of a Country the size of Ukraine with 150k Soldiers, more like 1.5 million.

 

[AntonToo]

Just enough to let them lose slowly over the past 4 years.

And now The Russians just continue to keep taking the territories they would demand in any settlement.

Ukraine continues to get aid from the US.

Fact Check: How have US military aid commitments to Ukraine change...

How about reading links in your own post?

Biden Administration Announces Additional Security Assistance for Ukraine​

Oct. 16, 2024


Trump hasn't signed off on even a penny of support for Ukraine, which is exactly what he promised to Orban during 2024 campaign:

Trump will not give a penny to Ukraine - Hungary PM Orban

"He will not give a penny" and the Russia-Ukraine war will end, claims Viktor Orban after meeting Donald Trump.

www.bbc.com

 

[Robert W]

The Ukrainians were bombing civilians in Donbass back in 2014 that's why the people there wanted out.

Russia you really should know was already at war with Ukraine in Donbas at that time. People don't want war, Politicians want war.

 

[AlexanderPK]

Brainwashed people living under autocratic rule often say things like that.

They are carefully trained to accept and even celebrate their oppressive regime as superior to open democratic societies.

Ahh, cut the crap.
I can't read the Western BS Corporations. You've got to have the nerves of steel to do that, which I don't, so, are Hohols still winning?

 

[AntonToo]

You don't launch a full scale invasion of a Country the size of Ukraine with 150k Soldiers, more like 1.5 million.

Oh yes you do when start to believe your own propaganda.

 

[AntonToo]

Ahh, cut the crap.

Well lets see:

I can't read the Western BS Corporations.

See? You CAN'T ...why? Because you live in a repressive state called Russia, where your Dear Leader doesn't want his propaganda contradicted.

When are you going to wake the **** up and smell the roses already?

 

[martybegan]

How about reading links in your own post?

Biden Administration Announces Additional Security Assistance for Ukraine​

Oct. 16, 2024


Trump hasn't signed off on even a penny of support for Ukraine, which is exactly what he promised to Orban during 2024 campaign:

Trump will not give a penny to Ukraine - Hungary PM Orban

"He will not give a penny" and the Russia-Ukraine war will end, claims Viktor Orban after meeting Donald Trump.

www.bbc.com

Aid was still being delivered in 2025. Trump suspended some of it for a short time, but did not stop it.

 

[Robert W]

The Ukrainians were bombing civilians in Donbass back in 2014 that's why the people there wanted out.

This is the 2nd modern war where the invaders blamed the citizens they attacked for the invasion by the invaders.

 

[Independent thinker]

There is no deal like that, because that implies some sort of real security guarantees.

There have been none agreed to by Putin and publicized deal expressly forbids NATO troops from protecting Ukraine.

You guys just don't get it. Ukraine is disappearing day after day.

 

[AntonToo]

Aid was still being delivered in 2025. Trump suspended some of it for a short time, but did not stop it.

That aid spending was passed by Congress and signed by Biden. It ran out in the summer, there has not been any additional funding bills since, and Ukraine is no longer getting any US funded aid.

What don't you get?

 

[Deadstick]

That's no way to talk about dully elected, Russia recognized, President of Ukraine elected in 2014.

At the time Putin thought he was dealing with normal people and could see a way through without more violence, that's his problem he has been far too moderate for years, pity the Kiev junta didn't honour the 2010 election that Yanukovych won and won big in Donbass, that would be the one that was overthrown by violence, remember that?

 

[AntonToo]

At the time Putin thought he was dealing with normal people

No dummy, at the time Putin has already annexed Crimea and was conducting hybrid warfare in eastern Ukraine.

If that's "normal" in your book, then you need to go get your head checked.

 

[AntonToo]

You guys just don't get it. Ukraine is disappearing day after day.

And it will disapear even faster if they are stupid enough to simply give away their cities while disarming themselves. DUH

 

[Deadstick]

This is the 2nd modern war where the invaders blamed the citizens they attacked for the invasion by the invaders.

Russia didn't intervene for 8 years of Ukrainians shelling and killing thousands of civilians in Donbass, these are some of the Ukrainian soldiers who were doing it, they were captured and marched through Donetsk, do the people look happy?

 

[Independent thinker]

And it will disapear even faster if they are stupid enough to simply give away their cities while disarming themselves. DUH

Well, duh, you have no plan to actually save Ukraine whereas Trump actually does. Your plan is to let Ukraine disappear little by little until there is nothing left of it and you feel good about making it as painful as possible to Putin, even though he winds up with ALL of Ukraine in the end.

 

[Deadstick]

No dummy, at the time Putin has already annexed Crimea and was conducting hybrid warfare in eastern Ukraine.

If that's "normal" in your book, then you need to go get your head checked.

There was no hybrid war you asshole, there was resistance to the Ukrainian army attacking Donbass, i posted a vid yesterday about the battle for Donetsk airport where the Donbass militia fought the Ukrainian army, those guys were not Russian soldier they were local from Donetsk, miners, bus drivers and teachers etc.

 

[Deadstick]

These were more of the Ukrainian terrorist who had been shelling Donetsk and were captured.

 

[AlexanderPK]

All bets were off when the Coup Regime took over, what did you expect Russia to give the keys to Sevastopol to Nato? i read somewhere the US had a troop landing ship in the area with Marines on board, good job they didn't do something stupid at the time.

What these kind people are worried about is the children the cruel Russians are bombing in hospitals and kindergartens. NATO is a charity organization that wishes no harm to Russia, baring maybe its peaceful demise. Big deal. Everybody knows that.

 

[AntonToo]

There was no hybrid war you asshole

If that's true, then how did RF soldiers, GRU operatives and heavy military weapons doing in eastern Ukraine?

What is it you think Russia was sanctioned for after Minsk agreements were signed? They were sanctioned for violating terms of the agreement to withdraw foreign weapons and forces out of Ukraine.

 

[martybegan]

That aid spending was passed by Congress and signed by Biden. It ran out in the summer, there has not been any additional funding bills since, and Ukraine is no longer getting any US funded aid.

What don't you get?

What I get is all that funding just slowed down the losing. Trump didn't try to stop what was already spent, which you people always seem to imply.

It's also up to congress to appropriate more spending, not Trump.