Russia Sets Punitive Terms for Peace.

[Zavulon]

That is silly. Do you think Viktor Orban, Robert Fico, and I are the only Europeans who don't want to attack Russia?

May be you are not the only ones, but you are not the decision-makers. You do what the "European leaders" tell you to do. When they tell you pay your money for killing Russians - you do it. When they'll tell you to take weapons in your hands and go fight - you take weapons and go fight (whatever you want it, or not).

 

[Zavulon]

I'm happy to read your comments and I'll reply to your issues that interest me.

But you are not ready to help the Russians, and tell them anything about Canada, are you? Or, say, to prove me wrong, declaring that the USA can allow Canada join Shanghai block or allow Canadian francophones genocide Canadian anglophones?

 

[toobfreak]

The latest terms for Peace from Russia have been sent to Ukraine.
In a nut shell they want all the land taken by force plus more land. No arms ever again from the West. Never NATO as well.

If Zelensky had an ounce of brains, he would take that deal.

I'm betting he won't.

In the end, Russia will just end up taking even more.

Shades of the Palestinians.

 

[Donald H]

But you are not ready to help the Russians, and tell them anything about Canada, are you? Or, say, to prove me wrong, declaring that the USA can allow Canada join Shanghai block or allow Canadian francophones genocide Canadian anglophones?

What do you want to know about Canada?

 

[GLASNOST]

Do you think Viktor Orban, Robert Fico, and I are the only Europeans who don't want to attack Russia?

May be you are not the only ones, but you are not the decision-makers. You do what the "European leaders" tell you to do..

You are not paying attention. Orban and Fico are not doing what the European leaders are telling us what to do and they represent two nations within the European Union.

 

[GLASNOST]

Russia will not stop fighting in Ukraine, as the USA couldn't stop fighting in Canada..

What?! The USA did stop fighting in Canada. Americans invaded Canada and tried to break Canada free from the Crown but they failed and went back home to the US.

 

[Zavulon]

What?! The USA did stop fighting in Canada. Americans invaded Canada and tried to break Canada free from the Crown but they failed and went back home to the US.

They still have satisfactory situation. "Formal dependent from the Britain, and formally independent from the USA Canada" is acceptable for the USA while there is no hostile forces there and the WASPs are neither discriminated, nor genocided. Canada as a member of Shanghai block (deploying Russian tanks and Chinese IRBMs) or Canada oppressing and killing anglophones - are totally unacceptable for the USA.


My question was about hypothetical situation:
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Let's play a game. After collapse of dollar Ponzi scheme, and hyper-inflation, burning down everyones reserves, America suffer significant (but mostly virtual) economic problems, but it is still a mighty military power (with the second in the world nuclear arsenal). Russia and China decided to eliminate America and for this goal - to buy Canada (its government), deploy there Russian tanks and Chinese IRBMs. As their proxies they decided to use French-speaker's extremists organisations and "de-angloficate" Canada. For this goal, the only official language in Canada becomes Canadian French. The only language allowed in books and TV is French. Police and vigilants allowed to arrest, attack and kill (sometimes even commit mass murders) "tête carrée" (English-speaking Canadians) at spot. Of course, there is US-backed rebellion against Quebec regime and, later, direct US invasion in Canada.
What kind of harm should Canadian regime cause to the USA to force them to allow China deploy nuclear weapons in Canada or allow genocide of tête carrée.

Do you believe that ordinary WASPs in the USA can allow genocide of WASPs in Canada, with, or without Washington permission?
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[Zavulon]

You are not paying attention. Orban and Fico are not doing what the European leaders are telling us what to do and they represent two nations within the European Union.

They are speaking like trixters, but they are acting mostly as they were said to act. They even vote for sanctions that harm them.

 

[Zavulon]

What do you want to know about Canada?

Do you have in Canadian English a special offensive term about French speaking Canadians, like they have the term "tête carrée" to mark English-speaking Canadians?

If there is a coup in Canada and the new Canadian government bans the official usage of English - will you protest against it (without direct order from Trump)?

Do you believe that in the case of such protests and their violent suppression, some English-speaking regions of Canada may freely decide to declare independence and/or join the USA.

 

[Zavulon]

If Zelensky had an ounce of brains, he would take that deal.

He has more than an ounce of brains. It is enough to understand that the word "peace" and the word "death" are absolutely synonymical for him.

I'm betting he won't.

In the end, Russia will just end up taking even more.

And when there is a choice between existence of Ukraine and existence of Vladimir Zelenskiy - he choose his own existence.

 

[zaangalewa]

Right now, what we actually do in Europe, yes, is really "childish game" and "pillow fight" compared with what we could ...

Russian - do whatever you like to do if you think the universe and life is a childish game. Your problem - not my problem. There is nothing to win for Russia - in all possible ways how your war will end. Be happy if your losses don't skyrocket. Even for that you have to make a huge effort by now.

 

[zaangalewa]

I don't think you are intelligent.

Aha. And now? Will that save your head from being nailed over my front door?

 

[Zavulon]

Russian - do whatever you like to do if you think the universe and life is a childish game.

Is it not?

Your problem - not my problem. There is nothing to win for Russia - in all possible ways how your war will end.

Our victory is quite simple - we will live and you will die out.

Be happy if your losses don't skyrocket.

Everything comes with price. And any military losses are totally justified if Russia survived and Germany - didn't.

Even for that you have to make a huge effort by now.

Not that huge. We are just warming up.

 

[zaangalewa]

Is it not?


Our victory is quite simple - we will live and you will die out.

We don't need stupid Russians to die out. Be happy when we will not decide to take you with us when we will finally leave this planet forever.

Everything comes with price.

What an unbelievable stupid sentence. Which "price" have human beings within the universe?

And any military losses are totally justified if Russia survived and Germany - didn't.

Not that huge. We are just warming up.

Aha.

 

[Zavulon]

We don't need stupid Russians to die out.

Plain lie. This is exactly why you support discrimination of Russians in Baltic states. This is exactly why you need Ukraine. And this is exactly what is officially declared by the EU.

Be happy when we will not decide to take you with us when we will finally leave this planet forever.

You simply can't do it. You'll die out, and Russia will survive.

What an unbelievable stupid sentence. Which "price" have human beings within the universe?

Other human beings. You want to confirm your right to kill Russians in Ukraine - be sure that the Russians will kill Germans in Germany.

Aha.

Aha.

 

[GLASNOST]

I don't think you are intelligent.

Aha. And now?

Now you are even less intelligent.

 

[Zavulon]

Aha.

 

[zaangalewa]

Now you are even less intelligent.

Aha. And now?

 

[zaangalewa]

Plain lie. ...

So give me any reason why we Germans should not die out if all Russians are dead, AI.

 

[AlexanderPK]

Early in the war and as an ongoing activity he hijacked hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian children.

The poor fucking children again? You seem to have been sane all along, how can a sane person believe in this crap? The Ukies claimed there were hundreds of thousands of those initially, then narrowed the number to thousands and the real count turned out to be near the 300, who were rescued from the endangered areas when they had gotten lost or their parents had been killed or whatever. Medinskiy, the head of the Russian negotiating team, told that they can get them as soon as their relatives turn up and ask them back. They have been given shelter, that's all. No other reason whatsoever.