Russia escalating push into eastern Ukraine

may be then the world (including yourself!) will open its eyes and demand to judge all of them for their numerous crimes.

I assure you my eyes are open. My family in Izmail keeps me informed.

...The newly leaked emails reveal a clandestine network of Western agitators around the NATO military chief, whose presence fueled the conflict in Ukraine. ...


...Karber's emails constantly made it sound as though the apocalypse was only a few weeks away.

My family in Izmail talked about this. They believed the Ukrainian government was exaggerating the threat from Russia. However Putin putting troops near the eastern border didn't help calm fears.

I understand you wanting Russia's help. But I think it's dangerous making a deal with the devil (Putin).
Then again we have a saying in America. The devil you know is better than the one you don't.

1. Putin is not the devil. If you say he's devil, it means you know NOTHING about him and/or are brainwashed.
2. Putin is the only one we trust and want to deal with. I am watching him from January, 2000 and he is a great and reliable leader and a great leader for Russia, the best USSR and Russia have had since Bolsheviks assassinated the Tsar family.
3. Those, who don't know, shouldn't decide the fate of our country.

If you call somebody you don't know much about a devil,
- it's pretty cheap;
- you should learn who he really is before telling everyone that he is a devil.

I hope with President Trump the world will finally know the truth about Ukraine, Russia, Putin. The sooner, the better. We can't wait too much longer under Kiev Junta regime: the people are dying very quickly.
 
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may be then the world (including yourself!) will open its eyes and demand to judge all of them for their numerous crimes.

I assure you my eyes are open. My family in Izmail keeps me informed.

...The newly leaked emails reveal a clandestine network of Western agitators around the NATO military chief, whose presence fueled the conflict in Ukraine. ...


...Karber's emails constantly made it sound as though the apocalypse was only a few weeks away.

My family in Izmail talked about this. They believed the Ukrainian government was exaggerating the threat from Russia. However Putin putting troops near the eastern border didn't help calm fears.

I understand you wanting Russia's help. But I think it's dangerous making a deal with the devil (Putin).
Then again we have a saying in America. The devil you know is better than the one you don't.

1. Putin is not the devil. If you say he's devil, it means you know NOTHING about him.
2. Putin is the only one we trust and want to deal with. I am watching him from January, 2000 and he is a great and reliable leader and a great leader for Russia, the best USSR and Russia have had since Bolsheviks assassinated the Tsar family.

If you call somebody you don't know much about a devil,
- it's pretty cheap;
- you should learn who he really is before telling everyone that he is a devil.

As I've said, I've been to Russia. I know the things Putin has done and the harm he's brought to those who oppose him. He's stolen democracy from Russia. He's stolen their freedom of the press and expression. He's stolen Russia's soul!

I can not agree with you about Putin. I've seen and read too much about the evil he has done.

I won't argue with you about him. If you see him as the saviour of Eastern Ukraine then he will be an Angel to you. I will not try to take away your Angel.
 
may be then the world (including yourself!) will open its eyes and demand to judge all of them for their numerous crimes.

I assure you my eyes are open. My family in Izmail keeps me informed.

...The newly leaked emails reveal a clandestine network of Western agitators around the NATO military chief, whose presence fueled the conflict in Ukraine. ...


...Karber's emails constantly made it sound as though the apocalypse was only a few weeks away.

My family in Izmail talked about this. They believed the Ukrainian government was exaggerating the threat from Russia. However Putin putting troops near the eastern border didn't help calm fears.

I understand you wanting Russia's help. But I think it's dangerous making a deal with the devil (Putin).
Then again we have a saying in America. The devil you know is better than the one you don't.

1. Putin is not the devil. If you say he's devil, it means you know NOTHING about him.
2. Putin is the only one we trust and want to deal with. I am watching him from January, 2000 and he is a great and reliable leader and a great leader for Russia, the best USSR and Russia have had since Bolsheviks assassinated the Tsar family.

If you call somebody you don't know much about a devil,
- it's pretty cheap;
- you should learn who he really is before telling everyone that he is a devil.

Well. I've been asking you this same question for a long time but you always deflect. Help an Americans like me understand............ what, why and where is there to like Putin?

What has Putin done to the goodness of humanity or to world peace?
 
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may be then the world (including yourself!) will open its eyes and demand to judge all of them for their numerous crimes.

I assure you my eyes are open. My family in Izmail keeps me informed.

...The newly leaked emails reveal a clandestine network of Western agitators around the NATO military chief, whose presence fueled the conflict in Ukraine. ...


...Karber's emails constantly made it sound as though the apocalypse was only a few weeks away.

My family in Izmail talked about this. They believed the Ukrainian government was exaggerating the threat from Russia. However Putin putting troops near the eastern border didn't help calm fears.

I understand you wanting Russia's help. But I think it's dangerous making a deal with the devil (Putin).
Then again we have a saying in America. The devil you know is better than the one you don't.

1. Putin is not the devil. If you say he's devil, it means you know NOTHING about him.
2. Putin is the only one we trust and want to deal with. I am watching him from January, 2000 and he is a great and reliable leader and a great leader for Russia, the best USSR and Russia have had since Bolsheviks assassinated the Tsar family.

If you call somebody you don't know much about a devil,
- it's pretty cheap;
- you should learn who he really is before telling everyone that he is a devil.

As I've said, I've been to Russia. I know the things Putin has done and the harm he's brought to those who oppose him. He's stolen democracy from Russia. He's stolen their freedom of the press and expression. He's stolen Russia's soul!

I can not agree with you about Putin. I've seen and read too much about the evil he has done.

I won't argue with you about him. If you see him as the saviour of Eastern Ukraine then he will be an Angel to you. I will not try to take away your Angel.

Guess what. I also have been to Russia. I have a lot of friends in Russia, they all support Putin. I also know the people who live in Donbass (SE Ukraine) and watch Ukrainians shelling them whenever they want.

FYI, Putin's approval rating in Russia is over 85%, so the people you know are minority. If they are gays, I won't be surprised.

Also same people [Globalists] who are trying to portray Putin as a devil, are doing the same thing to Trump now. Why? Because those two are a serious threat to Globalists' world order.
 
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No country wants another country taking their land from them by force.

The land belongs to the people who live on this land, not to corrupt politicians.

Perhaps Putin should try to buy Donbass from Ukraine?

The people of New Russia voted and asked for reunification with Russia, but Russian Duma declined this request.

Putin has to listen to the opinion of Russian parliament, that is how a democracy works.
 
Also same people [Globalists] who are trying to portray Putin as a devil, are doing the same thing to Trump now. Why? Because those two are a serious threat to Globalists' world order.

Putin is an obstacles to the plans of globalists, who are still dreaming about a world without national states and without boarders. They want to destroy all national identities and all national states (Israel is the only exception).

Trump is hated for the same reason Putin is hated.

Trump said "America first", and that was an affront to Globalists. When Trump says that he will 101% support Israel, then this is OK, any western leader has to be loyal to Israel, if he wants to have a political carrier.

But to say that a leader of sovereign nation has to protect the interest of his own nation is outrageous to the Globalists.

That is the reason why Globalists hate Putin and Trump so much.

An ideal alternative for Globalists was Killary, who even admitted that she dreams about a world without boarders....

"The brave new world" should be a world for the free flow of capital, an exchangeable "working force" and stupid consumers, who are only concerned about their sexual orientation.

That is the world the Globalists want, and they push they were pushing their sick idea about the "new world" down our throats for such a long time.

That is why Globalists support minorities, be it sexual or racial minorities, that is why they promote uncontrolled migration to western countries: they need the minorities to destroy the majority of a given country.

In the USA the white Americans were the majority, and this majority is now under attack. They use minorities to fight the founding population in the USA.

BTW, Bolsheviks were the first agents of Globalist, they were financed by American banksters, like Shiff.

And Bolsheviks used the same tactics in the Soviet Union that are used today in the USA.
Affirmative actions and racial quotas was an invention of Bolsheviks.

To subdue Russia the Bolsheviks needed the support of minorities, and that is how the "Ukrainian Nation" and other Soviet Nations were born.

Before WWI Ukraine was just "Small Russia", and Ukrainians called themselves Russians. Many prominent Russian writers, like Gogol, were born in "Small Russia", their native language was a "Small Russian" dialect, but they called themselves Russians and wrote their works in the standard Russian language.

Bolsheviks supported extremists and created the Ukrainian Soviet Republic, that did not exist previously, and that became an independent Ukraine after the collapse of the Soviet Union.

But Bolsheviks and Commies did not care a rat's ass about the people who lived in Small Russia that became Ukraine, they just implemented the "divide and rule" tactics.

After they subdued the Russians, they starved millions of "Small Russians/Ukrainians" in the Holodomor. The goal of Bolsheviks was to destroy all national identities in the Soviet Union and create a Homo Sovieticus, but this did not work out.

During WWII Stalin had to revive Russian Nationalismus and the Russian Church, because no Russian was eager to die for Communism and Internationalism. After WWII it was impossible to reverse this process. Globalists lost Russia, and the Cold War began after that. The centre of Globalism was moved from the Soviet Union to the USA after WWII, and eventually USA became a Neo-Marxist country, subverted by Neo-Commies, who are the agents of Globalists.

I think that the minorities, that are today played against the majority in the USA and other national countries, will be treated like Ukrainians during the Holodomor, when they are not needed any more.

But people never learn from history, and most Normies do not have any idea about the real history.

They only know the "Mickey-Mouse-Version" of history, promoted by the Hollywood and the dishonest and lying media outlets.
 
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Also same people [Globalists] who are trying to portray Putin as a devil, are doing the same thing to Trump now. Why? Because those two are a serious threat to Globalists' world order.

Putin is an obstacles to the plans of globalists, who are still dreaming about a world without national states and without boarders. They want to destroy all national identities and all national states (Israel is the only exception).

Trump is hated for the same reason Putin is hated.

Trump said "America first", and that was an affront to Globalists. When Trump says that he will 101% support Israel, then this is OK, any western leader has to be loyal to Israel, if he wants to have a political carrier.

But to say that a leader of sovereign nation has to protect the interest of his own nation is outrageous to the Globalists.

That is the reason why Globalists hate Putin and Trump so much.

An ideal alternative for Globalists was Killary, who even admitted that she dreams about a world without boarders....

"The brave new world" should be a world for the free flow of capital, an exchangeable "working force" and stupid consumers, who are only concerned about their sexual orientation.

That is the world the Globalists want, and they push they were pushing their sick idea about the "new world" down our throats for such a long time.

That is why Globalists support minorities, be it sexual or racial minorities, that is why they promote uncontrolled migration to western countries: they need the minorities to destroy the majority of a given country.

In the USA the white Americans were the majority, and this majority is now under attack. They use minorities to fight the founding population in the USA.

BTW, Bolsheviks were the first agents of Globalist, they were financed by American banksters, like Shiff.

And Bolsheviks used the same tactics in Soviet Union that are used today in the USA.

To subdue Russia the Bolsheviks needed the support of minorities, and that is how the "Ukrainian Nation" and other Soviet Nations were born.

Before WWI Ukraine was just "Small Russia", and Ukrainians called themselves Russians. Many prominent Russian writers, like Gogol, were born in "Small Russia", their native language was a "Small Russian" dialect, but they called themselves Russians and wrote their works in the standard Russian language.

Bolsheviks supported extremists and created the Ukrainian Soviet Republic, that did not exist previously, and that became an independent Ukraine after the collapse of the Soviet Union.

But Bolsheviks and Commies did not care a rat's ass about the people who lived in Small Russia that became Ukraine, they just implemented the "divide and rule" tactics.

After they subdued the Russians, they starved millions of "Small Russians/Ukrainians" in the Holodomor. The goal of Bolsheviks was to destroy all national identities in the Soviet Union and create a Homo Sovieticus, but this did not work out.

During WWII Stalin had to revive Russian Nationalismus and the Russian Church, because no Russian was eager to die for Communism and Internationalism. After WWII it was impossible to reverse this process. Globalists lost Russia, and the Cold War began after that. The centre of Globalism was moved from the Soviet Union to the USA after WWII, and eventually USA became a Neo-Marxist country, subverted by Neo-Commies, who are the agents of Globalists.

I think that the minorities, that are today played against the majority in the USA and other national countries, will be treated like Ukrainians during the Holodomor, when they are not needed any more.

But people never learn from history, and most Normies do not have any idea about the real history.

They only know the "Mickey-Mouse-Version" of history, promoted by the Hollywood and the dishonest and lying media outlets.

Thank you, everything is sooooooo right. I wish more people in the world were as knowledgeable as you. So far I see the attempts of ignorant or brainwashed (or both!) people to decide the fate of my home country of Ukraine (actually, Ukraine annexed us when USSR collapsed: all SE Ukraine used to be Russian lands for centuries since 988 at least. For some reason those loud people prefer to stay silent about that).

There are at least 3 things clearly pointing that Putin neither invaded Ukraine nor started the war:

1. The people in Kiev, who were stirring the coup, were pretty visible: McCain, Victoria Nuland, Jeffrey Payatt (US citizens), EU lousy "leaders". Nobody from Russian government has been noticed there.

2. Putin did not need any war next to his borders (for almost 3 years now), it's dangerous for Russia and harms Russia. Who really was interested ito harm Russia, was Obama's administration which during last 2,5 years was pretty busy with doing just about everything (including Olympics!) to harm Russia as much as possible.

3. If Putin did start that war, he would obviously want to finish it. And having the army and techniques as good as we all have seen in Syria against terrorists, Putin would be in Kiev in about 3 days. (Ukrainian army is not even an army and they don't even feed the soldiers well, all the money constantly keeps being stolen).

So, if one's brain is able to add two and two, it will become obvious to him, who needs that war and why.
 
Today the US Ambassador to the UN made her first appearance at the Security Council. She blamed Russia for the recent and current violence and aggression in Ukraine and stated that sanctions would not be lifted until Russia left the Ukrainian territory of Crimea.
Chaos in the trump administration or did Ambassador Haley just give the Russians a reality check.
Looks like conspiracy theories and Russian propaganda are going to be ignored.
 
I also know the people who live in Donbass (SE Ukraine) and watch Ukrainians shelling them whenever they want.

I too speak with people in Donbass through VK. It's very sad that the Ukrainian military bombs them so indiscriminately. I agree with your anger on this matter.

FYI, Putin's approval rating in Russia is over 85%, so the people you know are minority. If they are gays, I won't be surprised.

I've been honest with you now you be honest with me. We both know those approval numbers aren't real. No leader has an 85% approval rating unless he's a dictator who rigs the polls. Not even the Pope has an approval rating that high.

And what do gay people have to do with anything? Who cares who other people fall in love with?


Putin kills his political opposition and he kills reporters who speak against the government. This makes him evil!
 
The land belongs to the people who live on this land, not to corrupt politicians.

A countries land belongs to all of the people of that country. Pieces of a country cannot simply vote themselves away from the main country anytime they choose.



Putin has to listen to the opinion of Russian parliament, that is how a democracy works.

It's apparent Putin listens to no one but himself. He holds all the power. There is no democracy in Russia. Even Putin's most loyal supporters know this to be true.
 
Today the US Ambassador to the UN made her first appearance at the Security Council. She blamed Russia for the recent and current violence and aggression in Ukraine and stated that sanctions would not be lifted until Russia left the Ukrainian territory of Crimea.
Chaos in the trump administration or did Ambassador Haley just give the Russians a reality check.
Looks like conspiracy theories and Russian propaganda are going to be ignored.

I'm sure this is not what they expected from Trump administration. Reality will set in later.
 
I also know the people who live in Donbass (SE Ukraine) and watch Ukrainians shelling them whenever they want.

I too speak with people in Donbass through VK. It's very sad that the Ukrainian military bombs them so indiscriminately. I agree with your anger on this matter.

FYI, Putin's approval rating in Russia is over 85%, so the people you know are minority. If they are gays, I won't be surprised.

I've been honest with you now you be honest with me. We both know those approval numbers aren't real. No leader has an 85% approval rating unless he's a dictator who rigs the polls. Not even the Pope has an approval rating that high.

And what do gay people have to do with anything? Who cares who other people fall in love with?


Putin kills his political opposition and he kills reporters who speak against the government. This makes him evil!
Yes, Russia loves Putin, deal with that. Your friends are lousy minority.

I'm fascinated how badly some ignorant people are trying to decide the fate of my country. The people you know must be living in a freezer since they don't know what's currently going on in Ukraine under Kiev Junta.

Can you imagine what would happened if, in Russia, three opposition figures, a well-known writer and two politicians, were killed in the span of two days? We have a vague of idea of what that would look like, after the Western hysteria about Nemtsov.
History of Ukraine Told by Assassinated Ukrainian Writer Oles Buzina
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Murdered: Lawyer for Russian fighter kidnapped, 'drugged, wired to a bomb' in Ukraine
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April 16, 2015, I was taking part at the OSCE conference on human rights and fundamental freedoms in Vienna, Austria. During a working session I received a text message from a friend from Kiev saying “Oles Buzina has been killed.”Oles Buzina was a prominent Ukrainian writer and journalist whom I knew personally. Circulation of his books on popular history of Ukraine reached hundreds of thousands of people, if not more.

Buzina

His statements, often sharp, raised fierce debates in Ukraine, and also managed to generate discussion abroad. He wrote in two languages, Russian and Ukrainian, and his books were often issued simultaneously in these two languages. According to Buzina, Ukrainians were part of a widely understood Russian nation, though they had their own cultural characteristics that should be respected.

Several months before his assassination, he wrote: “I write the truth. Speaking the truth is easy and pleasant. I am but a writer. Not a terrorist. Not a rebel. Except for the words of truth, I have no weapon. There is a civil war now. An unjust war. You cannot win it even with the Devil on your side.”
The truth about Ukraine: Byshok's lecture at Brown University - Fort Russ

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Ukraine is facing pressure to come clean on its secret detention centers after it was revealed that 12 men and one woman have been set free from a clandestine facility run by the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) in Kharkov.

Both Amnesty and Human Rights Watch say the release of the detainees was prompted by their joint report “You Don’t Exist”: Arbitrary Detentions, Enforced Disappearances, and Torture in Eastern Ukraine’, published on July 21.

Upon the report’s release, representatives from the NGOs met with Ukraine’s military prosecutor and sent him a list of 16 people presumably held in the secret Kharkov detention center. Twelve of the 13 eventually released were from this list, Amnesty says.

“The grotesque practice of secret detention continues to be denied by the Ukrainian authorities, but the evidence is overwhelming. The release of 13 people is welcome, but simply confirms the need to end and investigate these abuses and deliver justice to the victims,” John Dalhuisen, Amnesty International’s regional director for Europe and Central Asia, said on the organization’s website.
Ukraine must end ‘grotesque practice’ of secret detention, say Amnesty & HRW

All that ^ is just a small tip of the iceberg.
 
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I'm fascinated how badly some ignorant people are trying to decide the fate of my country. The people you know must be living in a freezer since they don't know what's currently going on in Ukraine under Kiev Junta.

My family in Izmail is fully aware of what's going on in their own country and they keep me informed. I don't have to depend on western media.

...All that ^ is just a small tip of the iceberg.

I'm aware. I am not defending the actions of the Ukrainian government. Do not confuse my dislike for Putin as support for the current government in Kiev. There are too many bad actors hurting Ukraine.

We can not agree on Putin. However I'm sure we both want what's best for Ukraine.
All sides must stop fighting. No more bombing, no more shooting. All sides must stop and then discuss a diplomatic solution. Many Ukrainians love both Russia and Ukraine, you must know this. Many Ukrainians do not want to see a war because they consider it a war between friends.
 
I also know the people who live in Donbass (SE Ukraine) and watch Ukrainians shelling them whenever they want.

I too speak with people in Donbass through VK. It's very sad that the Ukrainian military bombs them so indiscriminately. I agree with your anger on this matter.

FYI, Putin's approval rating in Russia is over 85%, so the people you know are minority. If they are gays, I won't be surprised.

I've been honest with you now you be honest with me. We both know those approval numbers aren't real. No leader has an 85% approval rating unless he's a dictator who rigs the polls. Not even the Pope has an approval rating that high.

And what do gay people have to do with anything? Who cares who other people fall in love with?


Putin kills his political opposition and he kills reporters who speak against the government. This makes him evil!

Welcome to the world of Stratford.......... I've been dealing with him for almost 2 years and he's been using the same lying propaganda since then and it's the same lying propaganda today.................

Maybe he thinks that he is talking to someone that lives in Gulag.
 
I also know the people who live in Donbass (SE Ukraine) and watch Ukrainians shelling them whenever they want.

I too speak with people in Donbass through VK. It's very sad that the Ukrainian military bombs them so indiscriminately. I agree with your anger on this matter.

FYI, Putin's approval rating in Russia is over 85%, so the people you know are minority. If they are gays, I won't be surprised.

I've been honest with you now you be honest with me. We both know those approval numbers aren't real. No leader has an 85% approval rating unless he's a dictator who rigs the polls. Not even the Pope has an approval rating that high.

And what do gay people have to do with anything? Who cares who other people fall in love with?


Putin kills his political opposition and he kills reporters who speak against the government. This makes him evil!

Welcome to the world of Stratford.......... I've been dealing with him for almost 2 years and he's been using the same lying propaganda since then and it's the same lying propaganda today.................

Maybe he thinks that he is talking to someone that lives in Gulag.

He's passionate about the subject. If he's truly from Eastern Ukraine then I can understand. If bombs fell on my home I'd hate the bomber, even if it were Santa Clause. If a white knight rode in and offered to save me and my family in exchange for my soul, I might agree.
On VK political groups I've debated with people who currently live in Donbass. They're under intense stress and they fear for their home and their lives. They see Putin as a hero. They don't concern themselves with his misdeeds in Russia and Syria because they need him to protect them from their own government. A government which overreacted to a secession movement.

Imagine if Trump ordered the bombing of San Francisco because California voted to leave the U.S.
 
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Today the US Ambassador to the UN made her first appearance at the Security Council. She blamed Russia for the recent and current violence and aggression in Ukraine and stated that sanctions would not be lifted until Russia left the Ukrainian territory of Crimea.
Chaos in the trump administration or did Ambassador Haley just give the Russians a reality check.
Looks like conspiracy theories and Russian propaganda are going to be ignored.

Putin is about to learn something many Americans only just recently learned about president Trump. Trump is only your friend until you make him look bad. Then he'll turn on you in a heartbeat. If Putin tries to play Trump like a puppet and Trump then feels he's being made to look foolish, who knows what he'll do in retaliation but I'm sure it'll be something Putin won't like.

Putin might start thinking he leaked the wrong candidate's emails.
 
Today the US Ambassador to the UN made her first appearance at the Security Council. She blamed Russia for the recent and current violence and aggression in Ukraine and stated that sanctions would not be lifted until Russia left the Ukrainian territory of Crimea.
Chaos in the trump administration or did Ambassador Haley just give the Russians a reality check.
Looks like conspiracy theories and Russian propaganda are going to be ignored.

Putin is about to learn something many Americans only just recently learned about president Trump. Trump is only your friend until you make him look bad. Then he'll turn on you in a heartbeat. If Putin tries to play Trump like a puppet and Trump then feels he's being made to look foolish, who knows what he'll do in retaliation but I'm sure it'll be something Putin won't like.

Putin might start thinking he leaked the wrong candidate's emails.

Looks like you are not much of a Republican, dear Irina. Or same much of a Republican like McCain and Graham.

However with President Trump even you may realize you are living in a richer and safer country.

BTW, watch a French (not Russian!) documentary "Ukraine, Masks of Revolution" with English, Russian or any language subtitles. They are investigating the mascara in Odessa, the historical Russian city (your oblast), how over 100 people were burnt alive (a teen and a pregnant woman among them) just because they disagreed with Kiev Junta and were having mass protests against it.The Nazis who burnt the people alive told the author that they were sorry only about one thing: they burnt too few people...

It will be very useful for you and your relatives in Izmail.

 
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Fighting flares in eastern Ukraine
Eastern Ukraine fighting flares with pro-Russian rebels - CNN.com

Trump has given Putin the green light to expand imto Europe. Ukraine is omly the beginning.
1. Not a NATO nation and thus not under our umbrella.
2. The west initially fomented discourse behind the scenes.
Bottom line: Ukraine not our issue.

Ukraine gave up its nukes because the west assured Ukraine we'd look out for them. Unfortunately for Ukraine no official treaty was signed. The west let Ukraine down. Just like we let down the people of Syria when Obama's red line was crossed.

You may say Ukraine and Syria shouldn't be any of America's business and that's a fair point. But if America isn't going to get involved then it should keep its mouth shut and not draw red lines and not make promises of protection that it doesn't plan on keeping. It destroys American's credibility in the world.
The Ukrainian people loved America, I know this for a fact. Then the trouble started and America was nowhere to be found even though we said we'd be there for them. Now they don't love us so much. It matters, it matters to me at least.
 
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