Roger Stone Announces $25M Lawsuit Against DOJ, Mueller, Comey, Barr And Brennan

[Care4all]

can you even sue govt employees, individually? you can sue the gvt who employs them, but not the individual as far as I am aware.

And a jury of his peers found him guilty in a court of law.... is he gonna sue the jury too?



a pardon does not give him any special permission to sue....

a pardon is an admission of guilt and repentance for those crimes....

me thinks roger stone was simply mouthing off on parlor, and nothing will come of it....

 

[JoeB131]

"my prosecution was a completely, politically motivated witch hunt and my trial was a Soviet-style show trial..."

Except he was convicted and accepted a pardon.... That's an admission of guilt.

 

[Dragonlady]

Roger Stone Announces $25M Lawsuit Against DOJ, Mueller, Comey, Barr And Brennan

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"my prosecution was a completely, politically motivated witch hunt and my trial was a Soviet-style show trial..."

Well that's nice. Maybe he can commit perjury again, and then he'll get tossed into jail and he can die there, as he should.

He'll get nothing.

 

[Dragonlady]

So Roger is accepting a pardon from President Trump, and accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt. So if Stone has admitted his guilt by accepting the pardon, how can he now sue for an illegal prosecution? If he wants to sue, he'll have to decline the pardon.

Decisions, decisions!!!

 

[Zorro!]

Roger Stone Announces $25M Lawsuit Against DOJ, Mueller, Comey, Barr And Brennan

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"my prosecution was a completely, politically motivated witch hunt and my trial was a Soviet-style show trial..."

Stone should be brought before a grand jury and questioned about the things he was found guilty of, since accepting pardon, cannot lie or withhold answering on 5th amendment grounds, since already pardon for the crime itself. If he lies or withholds, convict on the new charges and lock up for as long and feasible. He is a criminal. They can throw away the key as far as I am concerned.

What would be the purpose of such a grand jury being called? To try and set and trick Mr. Stone?

Not a legit purpose for a proceeding.

The Left seeks to criminalize disagreement, so, making a statement, or taking an action they don't sanction "warrants" a Grand Jury. They see the Inquisition, not as a terrible miscarriage of justice, but more as a "how to" guide.

 

[colfax_m]

The DOJ under President Trump should settle immediately with Mr. Stone and cut him a check for $20 million. Will give Mr. Stone a nice war chest to destroy Mueller, Brennan and Comey, reducing them to Pauper status.

Ah, naked corruption. You guys aren’t even embarassed by this anymore.

 

[colfax_m]

Let me guess. Roger Stone is asking for money to help find his lawsuit?

 

[Polishprince]

The DOJ under President Trump should settle immediately with Mr. Stone and cut him a check for $20 million. Will give Mr. Stone a nice war chest to destroy Mueller, Brennan and Comey, reducing them to Pauper status.

Ah, naked corruption. You guys aren’t even embarassed by this anymore.

What's "corrupt" about making a settlement and admitting you are wrong?

That's what Warren Wilhelm did in New York City when he settled with the CP5 you know.

That case was never heard by 12 angry men, and the city didn't try to defend it- they just paid.

Ditto, BTW, with Baltimore and Freddie Gay.

 

[colfax_m]

What's "corrupt" about making a settlement and admitting you are wrong?

It’s corrupt because the Stone’s case is frivolous. Going straight to a settlement is just an excuse to send US taxpayer dollars to a Trump crony.

That’s what’s corrupt.

The Central Park 5 had a legitimate complaint.

 

[busybee01]

Roger Stone Announces $25M Lawsuit Against DOJ, Mueller, Comey, Barr And Brennan

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"my prosecution was a completely, politically motivated witch hunt and my trial was a Soviet-style show trial..."

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Which is going nowhere. He was convicted by a jury who heard the evidence.

 

[Polishprince]

What's "corrupt" about making a settlement and admitting you are wrong?

It’s corrupt because the Stone’s case is frivolous. Going straight to a settlement is just an excuse to send US taxpayer dollars to a Trump crony.

That’s what’s corrupt.

The Central Park 5 had a legitimate complaint.

The CP5 confessed and admitted their guilt.

Even if they were actually "innocent"(something never proven in court), the police didn't do anything wrong and the taxpayers shouldn't have had to pay.

No retired cop involved in the case or DA staff ever lost their pension over this.

 

[busybee01]

At $25 million they are getting off cheap.
He should sue for 10X that amount. ...

Maybe he will get bounced out of court even faster.

 

[colfax_m]

What's "corrupt" about making a settlement and admitting you are wrong?

It’s corrupt because the Stone’s case is frivolous. Going straight to a settlement is just an excuse to send US taxpayer dollars to a Trump crony.

That’s what’s corrupt.

The Central Park 5 had a legitimate complaint.

The CP5 confessed and admitted their guilt.

Even if they were actually "innocent"(something never proven in court), the police didn't do anything wrong and the taxpayers shouldn't have had to pay.

No retired cop involved in the case or DA staff ever lost their pension over this.

The CP5 had their convictions vacated. The justice system clearly did something wrong.

Stone, on the other hand, was found guilty and only received a pardon.

The difference is night and day.

 

[busybee01]

The DOJ under President Trump should settle immediately with Mr. Stone and cut him a check for $20 million. Will give Mr. Stone a nice war chest to destroy Mueller, Brennan and Comey, reducing them to Pauper status.

And what purpose would that serve?

Hm?

For the DOJ, it would put the matter behind them and limit the exposure of the taxpayers in this matter.

Further, it would allow them to accept their part of the responsibility.

They bear no responsibility for the fact that Stone broke the law. Accepting a pardon is the same as a guilty plea.

 

[gipper]

"my prosecution was a completely, politically motivated witch hunt and my trial was a Soviet-style show trial..."

Except he was convicted and accepted a pardon.... That's an admission of guilt.

Actually guy that’s true.

 

[busybee01]

Roger Stone Announces $25M Lawsuit Against DOJ, Mueller, Comey, Barr And Brennan

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"my prosecution was a completely, politically motivated witch hunt and my trial was a Soviet-style show trial..."

Stone should be brought before a grand jury and questioned about the things he was found guilty of, since accepting pardon, cannot lie or withhold answering on 5th amendment grounds, since already pardon for the crime itself. If he lies or withholds, convict on the new charges and lock up for as long and feasible. He is a criminal. They can throw away the key as far as I am concerned.

A jury disdagreed with you when they convicted him.

What would be the purpose of such a grand jury being called? To try and set and trick Mr. Stone?

Not a legit purpose for a proceeding.

The Left seeks to criminalize disagreement, so, making a statement, or taking an action they don't sanction "warrants" a Grand Jury. They see the Inquisition, not as a terrible miscarriage of justice, but more as a "how to" guide.

A jury disagreed with you and found sufficient evidence to convict him.

 

[Zorro!]

So Roger is accepting a pardon from President Trump, and accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt. So if Stone has admitted his guilt by accepting the pardon, how can he now sue for an illegal prosecution? If he wants to sue, he'll have to decline the pardon.

Decisions, decisions!!!

Fake News.

A pardon has historically served several different functions, one of which is protecting people who were convicted even though they were legally innocent. In the words of Justice Joseph Story, the most respected early commentator on the Constitution (writing in 1833),

A power to pardon seems, indeed, indispensable under the most correct administration of the law by human tribunals; since, otherwise, men would sometimes fall a prey to the vindictiveness of accusers, the inaccuracy of testimony, and the fallibility of jurors and courts.

Some pardons expressly state that they are based on the pardoner's decision that the defendant was actually innocent; and some legal rules expressly contemplate that—for instance, the federal statute that provides for compensation of the unjustly convicted, which allows a plaintiff to prevail by showing (among other things) "that he has been pardoned upon the stated ground of innocence and unjust conviction."

The Justice Department Standards for Consideration of Clemency Petitioners also expressly contemplate the possibility of "pardon on grounds of innocence or miscarriage of justice."

Conviction followed by a pardon, Story argues, is a means of making sure that "moral and general justice" is nonetheless served.

Because some pardons are understood as being based on the pardoned person's factual innocence, no judge today would genuinely view acceptance of pardon as always being an admission of guilt. Most people's moral judgment today would be that, even if a pardon is offered just as a gesture of mercy and not as exoneration, the recipient may honorably accept it even if they continue to deny their factual guilt or their moral guilt.

 

[colfax_m]

A pardon has historically served several different functions, one of which is protecting people who were convicted even though they were legally innocent

I agree with this. A pardon does not necessarily mean an admission of guilt. It is overused and poorly thought out claim.

But Roger Stone first would have to prove he’s innocent of the charges. Something he couldn’t do at jury trial and something no rational person would believe based on the evidence.

 

[Dragonlady]

So Roger is accepting a pardon from President Trump, and accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt. So if Stone has admitted his guilt by accepting the pardon, how can he now sue for an illegal prosecution? If he wants to sue, he'll have to decline the pardon.

Decisions, decisions!!!

Fake News.

A pardon has historically served several different functions, one of which is protecting people who were convicted even though they were legally innocent. In the words of Justice Joseph Story, the most respected early commentator on the Constitution (writing in 1833),

You didn't even check it out did you?

When Donald Trump commuted Stone's sentence, Trump offered him a pardon then. Stone declined because he "wanted to clear his name". He cannot sue for "false prosecution" after accepting the pardon.

Trump’s Most Brazen Reprieve Yet

The president’s commutation of Roger Stone was inevitable from the start.

www.theatlantic.com

If anything, Stone should be sued for "false clemency".

 

[dudmuck]

At $25 million they are getting off cheap.
He should sue for 10X that amount. ...

yea, just like north korea delievered ballots for biden

Roger Stone claims North Korea delivered ballots through Maine harbor

Maine Sec. of State Matt Dunlap says Stone’s claims have ‘absolutely no validity.’

www.newscentermaine.com