Roe v Wade is gone. Who's to blame?

[Ms. Turquoise]

But men can't have babies, so your argument is nil.

No, you can't have them. That's why men should stay completely out of the abortion issue.

 

[Ms. Turquoise]

And? You say here abortion is a male structure. So what do you think how many parents, friends, partners and others are so intrigant and force a pregnant woman to consent to let kill her unborn baby? And who really helps women and their babies?

The right to life folks don't help babies once they are born. They only care about them when they are in the womb.

 

[jc456]

It clearly went over your head.

Mumbo jumbo

 

[jc456]

No, you can't have them. That's why men should stay completely out of the abortion issue.

A woman needs a man to get there! You didn’t learn that huh?

You hate men that much, stay off their dicks

 

[Ms. Turquoise]

A woman needs a man to get there! You didn’t learn that huh?

You hate men that much, stay off their dicks

 

[Richard-H]

Says who?

Really? Can you possibly be that stupid?

I guess so!

 

[schmidlap]

You can blame the pro-abort witches who gobbled abortion pills on the courthouse steps and laughed about it. Blame the women who posted on social media that they would get pregnant just so they could have an abortion. Blame Chuck Schumer for violently threatening two Supreme Court justices, then dispatching a terrorist to try to kill one of them. The justices saw this sickness and had to act.

Your hyper-partisan raving aside, the safeguards to prevent the United States from devolving into a shithole nation where authoritarians deny women reproductive freedom - Iraq, Nicaragua, El Salvador - but, rather, reflect the enlightened values of advanced democracies - Canada, the Scandinavian nations, etc. - are twofold:

1) The reality that self-administered terminations already constitute most abortions in the U.S., and the authoritarian statists establishing an extensive Stasi-type system of informants, intercepting private mail, electronic communications, and other intrusive measures is onerous, would evoke widespread outrage, and violates other rights to privacy.​

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2) Prosecutorial discretion. A draconian law that is unpopular with most Americans will not be enforced by those attuned to the public sentiment. It will be placed at the bottom of their priority lists.​

Nearly 100 prosecutors sign pledge against criminalizing abortion​

 

[jknowgood]

Bullshit, there are plenty of religious based programs they can get into, to save the baby. But your abortion supporters are burning them down.

 

[zaangalewa]

The difference between the species women and the species men is in genetics as big as the difference between the species men and the species shimpanzes - what you can see by the way very well in your shimpanzee answer. What to do with such a pet? A member of the species women uses more words and logic. Nevertheless they help the male 'shimpanzees' to reproduce themselves. But they could also only reproduce members of the species women - if they like to do so. That's indeed possible! Keeps the problem for which men they will start a civilisation life program.

 

[Unkotare]

 

[schmidlap]

Bullshit, there are plenty of religious based programs they can get into, to save the baby. But your abortion supporters are burning them down.

Your lies concerning the majority of Americans who support freedom are futile.

Most Americans support Roe v. Wade​

A personal liberty that Americans have been guaranteed for half-a-century will be arrogated by intrusive, statist politicians and bureaucrats in half the nation that will now retrogress to adopt the repression of women in an Iraq, a Nicaragua, or an El Salvador.

Fortunately, medical science has advanced, and authoritarians will find it increasing difficult to seize control of wombs in the retrogressive jurisdictions.

1) Prosecutorial discretion will result in criminal prosecutions of women controlling their own wombs being given low priority, in line with most Americans supporting personal freedom:

Nearly 100 prosecutors sign pledge against criminalizing abortion​

2) Even the Stasi would have a difficult time controlling the populace as advances in medical science facilitate privacy:

Medication abortion is a two-drug regimen approved by the FDA to terminate a pregnancy before 10 weeks of gestation. Before this year, however, the FDA required the pills to be dispensed in person, at a clinic or other medical facility, even though a patient could take those same pills at home. But decades of evidence... demonstrated that the in-person dispensing requirement was untethered to patient safety and imposed unnecessary burdens on patients. In December of last year, the FDA permanently removed the in-person restriction. Abortion pills now can be mailed directly to eligible patients.​

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In the wake of changing restrictions, tele-health for abortion has proliferated. Screening for eligibility and pre-abortion counseling take place online, after which the medication is mailed to the patient. The entire process takes three to five days, depending on the patient’s location, and can be hundreds of dollars less than in-person care. So at the same time that Dobbs will return abortion regulation to the states, with half the country poised to ban it, the receipt of abortion pills will be increasingly difficult to control. And when abortion becomes a crime in half the country, the use of telehealth for abortion, where it is legal, and self-managed abortion rates will rise. Because as happens now, though on a smaller scale, people will order medication abortion online to safely end a pregnancy, even without provider assistance.​

20 Ways the Supreme Court Just Changed America

A range of thinkers on the future of abortion post-Roe in America — and how that will affect everything else.

www.politico.com

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Red states will have an increasingly difficult time
spying on the private lives of women.​

3) Like the Underground Railway that accommodated slaves fleeing bondage, the free states will welcome those seeking personal freedom.

 

[scruffy]

Let's be reasonable here. No matter what you believe about Obama's presidency the fact remains McTurtle's unprecedented abuse of power kept Obama from getting Garland, who even Repubs had previously said glowing things about, appointed to the court. Neither Gorsuch or Barrett would be on the bench if not for McConnell's treachery.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Your lies concerning the majority of Americans who support freedom are futile.

Most Americans support Roe v. Wade​

A personal liberty that Americans have been guaranteed for half-a-century will be arrogated by intrusive, statist politicians and bureaucrats in half the nation that will now retrogress to adopt the repression of women in an Iraq, a Nicaragua, or an El Salvador.

Fortunately, medical science has advanced, and authoritarians will find it increasing difficult to seize control of wombs in the retrogressive jurisdictions.

1) Prosecutorial discretion will result in criminal prosecutions of women controlling their own wombs being given low priority, in line with most Americans supporting personal freedom:

Nearly 100 prosecutors sign pledge against criminalizing abortion​

2) Even the Stasi would have a difficult time controlling the populace as advances in medical science facilitate privacy:

Medication abortion is a two-drug regimen approved by the FDA to terminate a pregnancy before 10 weeks of gestation. Before this year, however, the FDA required the pills to be dispensed in person, at a clinic or other medical facility, even though a patient could take those same pills at home. But decades of evidence... demonstrated that the in-person dispensing requirement was untethered to patient safety and imposed unnecessary burdens on patients. In December of last year, the FDA permanently removed the in-person restriction. Abortion pills now can be mailed directly to eligible patients.​

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In the wake of changing restrictions, tele-health for abortion has proliferated. Screening for eligibility and pre-abortion counseling take place online, after which the medication is mailed to the patient. The entire process takes three to five days, depending on the patient’s location, and can be hundreds of dollars less than in-person care. So at the same time that Dobbs will return abortion regulation to the states, with half the country poised to ban it, the receipt of abortion pills will be increasingly difficult to control. And when abortion becomes a crime in half the country, the use of telehealth for abortion, where it is legal, and self-managed abortion rates will rise. Because as happens now, though on a smaller scale, people will order medication abortion online to safely end a pregnancy, even without provider assistance.​

20 Ways the Supreme Court Just Changed America

A range of thinkers on the future of abortion post-Roe in America — and how that will affect everything else.

www.politico.com

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Red states will have an increasingly difficult time
spying on the private lives of women.​

3) Like the Underground Railway that accommodated slaves fleeing bondage, the free states will welcome those seeking personal freedom.

Well too bad for you Roe is history

 

[schmidlap]

Mumbo jumbo

Even in repressive, regressive states, there are majorities that support personal freedom and oppose statist authoritarianism:

Many states with antiabortion laws have pro-choice majorities​

 

[jknowgood]

Your lies concerning the majority of Americans who support freedom are futile.

Most Americans support Roe v. Wade​

A personal liberty that Americans have been guaranteed for half-a-century will be arrogated by intrusive, statist politicians and bureaucrats in half the nation that will now retrogress to adopt the repression of women in an Iraq, a Nicaragua, or an El Salvador.

Fortunately, medical science has advanced, and authoritarians will find it increasing difficult to seize control of wombs in the retrogressive jurisdictions.

1) Prosecutorial discretion will result in criminal prosecutions of women controlling their own wombs being given low priority, in line with most Americans supporting personal freedom:

Nearly 100 prosecutors sign pledge against criminalizing abortion​

2) Even the Stasi would have a difficult time controlling the populace as advances in medical science facilitate privacy:

Medication abortion is a two-drug regimen approved by the FDA to terminate a pregnancy before 10 weeks of gestation. Before this year, however, the FDA required the pills to be dispensed in person, at a clinic or other medical facility, even though a patient could take those same pills at home. But decades of evidence... demonstrated that the in-person dispensing requirement was untethered to patient safety and imposed unnecessary burdens on patients. In December of last year, the FDA permanently removed the in-person restriction. Abortion pills now can be mailed directly to eligible patients.​

​

In the wake of changing restrictions, tele-health for abortion has proliferated. Screening for eligibility and pre-abortion counseling take place online, after which the medication is mailed to the patient. The entire process takes three to five days, depending on the patient’s location, and can be hundreds of dollars less than in-person care. So at the same time that Dobbs will return abortion regulation to the states, with half the country poised to ban it, the receipt of abortion pills will be increasingly difficult to control. And when abortion becomes a crime in half the country, the use of telehealth for abortion, where it is legal, and self-managed abortion rates will rise. Because as happens now, though on a smaller scale, people will order medication abortion online to safely end a pregnancy, even without provider assistance.​

20 Ways the Supreme Court Just Changed America

A range of thinkers on the future of abortion post-Roe in America — and how that will affect everything else.

www.politico.com

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Red states will have an increasingly difficult time
spying on the private lives of women.​

3) Like the Underground Railway that accommodated slaves fleeing bondage, the free states will welcome those seeking personal freedom.

Abortion is on the way out.

 

[schmidlap]

Abortion is on the way out.

In Iraq, Nicaragua, and El Salvador?

In advanced nations, personal freedom endures.

The American public is rendering its initial judgment on the overturning of Roe v. Wade, and most disapprove of the ruling, including two-thirds of women who disapprove. ​

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By more than a 20-point margin, Americans call it a step backward rather than forward for America. And women, by more than three to one, think the ruling will make women's lives worse rather than better.​

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CBS News poll: Americans react to overturning of Roe v. Wade ​

 

[Faun]

Abortion is on the way out.

Of course it's not as there will still be states where it's legal.

 

[jc456]

Even in repressive, regressive states, there are majorities that support personal freedom and oppose statist authoritarianism:

Many states with antiabortion laws have pro-choice majorities​

Opinion today? O P I N I O N . It seems you have no data, mumbo jumbo

 

[YoursTruly]

By the way: The species women don't need men to reproduce human beings - fathers could biologically also be other women. Men are not able to do the same. So looks like the species men is an evolutionary malproduction.

How can they make a child without male sperm?

 

[jknowgood]

In Iraq, Nicaragua, and El Salvador?

In advanced nations, personal freedom endures.

The American public is rendering its initial judgment on the overturning of Roe v. Wade, and most disapprove of the ruling, including two-thirds of women who disapprove. ​

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By more than a 20-point margin, Americans call it a step backward rather than forward for America. And women, by more than three to one, think the ruling will make women's lives worse rather than better.​

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CBS News poll: Americans react to overturning of Roe v. Wade ​

So what? That still won't affect Republicans getting a super majority in November. Yes, that's how bad our illegitimate president is. Oh and Pelosi will figure out how to screw the pooch between now and then.