Roe v. Wade getting overturned!!

Grumpyolman said: There are many Trump haters and they are unwavering in their hatred. grmpylmn.23.10.21 #7

Grumpyolman said: The leftists for the most part don't believe in God. It's sad to see what America is becoming sometimes. grmpylmn.23.06.19 #6


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Donald Trump has suggested a 6-week abortion ban is ''too harsh'', attacking Gov. Ron DeSantis for his bill protecting innocent human life after 6 weeks.
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The former president said he is ''looking at all alternatives'' when asked if he would support such a 6-week ban, making this a crucial opportunity for pro-life voters to make their views known to him in no uncertain terms.

"He has to do what he has to do," Trump said about Gov. DeSantis' abortion bill. "If you look at what DeSantis did, a lot of people don't even know if he knew what he was doing. But he signed six weeks, and many people within the pro-life movement feel that that was too harsh."
Anyone truly in the pro-life movement thinking the ban is too harsh must mean it's too harsh on those babies less than 6-weeks who can still be murdered.

Mr. Trump's outlandish claim about anyone in the pro-life movement opposing the ban is doubtful to say the least, but there was more to follow in the interview.
When pressed on whether he thought the bill was ''too harsh'', Trump would not answer directly, instead saying: ''I'm looking at all alternatives. I'm looking at many alternatives. But I was able to get us to the table by terminating Roe v. Wade. That's the most important thing that's ever happened for the pro-life movement.''

The former president is correct in saying the overturning of Roe v. Wade was a monumental step for the pro-life movement, but it should only be the beginning of banning the killing of babies in the womb entirely.

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What does the US Constitution say about a fetus having a right to life?


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“If it is not a human being, then why are you harvesting organs from it?” Dr. Ben Carson​
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If you believe a 14.5 week gestating fetus is a “human being” with identical human right to life status as it’s potential birth mother; why are you not calling for murder charges to be levied against a woman and doctor and any person who is involved in murdering a poor defenseless innocent human being who’s simply happens to be starting his or her individual life in the womb or attached to the uterus of a much more mature human being?

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MisterBeale said: It was clear, he {DJT} didn't think Roe v. Wade gave a voice to many, OTH, he thought the other side wants to go too far in many cases.” mstrbl.23.09.19 #25

That’s not an “On The Other Hand” evaluation of what you say Trump’s opposition to the six weeks abortion ban in Florida means.

I believe this is how Saint Misterbeale should have structured his comment with his pro/MAGA bias revealing a lack of respect for keeping with truth.

“ {DJT} didn't think Roe v. Wade gave a voice to white Christian nationalists who also think the left wants to go too far in many cases.”

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ding said: “Believe whatever you want.” dvng.23.10.27 #11,656


Saint Ding says Believe whatever you want until you are pregnant. When pregnant you must be coerced to believe what white Christian nationalists and Schlafly/Vigsno Catholic must coerce you to believe.

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ding said: “Believe whatever you want.” dvng.23.10.27 #11,656

Saint Ding says Believe whatever you want until you are pregnant. When pregnant you must be coerced to believe what white Christian nationalists and Schlafly/Vigsno Catholic must coerce you to believe.
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A legitimate state interest is founded upon its citizens and individuals within its jurisdiction !

A legitimate state interest is NOT founded upon non citizens and non individuals outside of its jurisdiction !

There is not a sanctimonious dictum to defend every and all lives !
 
Where does the 10th amendment address abortion?
Interesting. If I recall correctly, the 10th Amendment deals with powers not delegated to the government belonging to the states. It doesn't need to.

Since the Constitution doesn't specifically address abortion being a power belonging to the government, the states have the right to pass their own laws concerning it.

Quite a basic explanation, really. Gotcha questions are so old and antiquated.
 
j-mac said: Civilizations die off when Civilizations die off when children are not born to replace the dying. That’s a fact. jmvc.23.11.03 #3


Are you saying white Christian nationalist run states like Alabama should have the right to ban all forms of contraception so they can increase the population of white Christian civilized people in their states?

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ding said: “It’s only people who need to dehumanize the unborn child that refer to them as a fetus.” dvng.19.06.12 #812

j-mac said: “Is there something else scientifically, that the baby would be during gestation? It is, will always be, a human baby.” jmvc.23.11.04 #26

Is it a dehumanized “BABY” when a miscarriage occurs at five weeks after conception and the body aborts it and the baby is unceremoniously flushed down the toilet?

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Interesting. If I recall correctly, the 10th Amendment deals with powers not delegated to the government belonging to the states. It doesn't need to.
Since the Constitution doesn't specifically address abortion being a power belonging to the government, the states have the right to pass their own laws concerning it.
Quite a basic explanation, really. Gotcha questions are so old and antiquated.
A legitimate state interest is founded upon its citizens and individuals within its jurisdiction .

A legitimate state interest is NOT founded upon non citizens and non individuals outside of its jurisdiction .

There is not a sanctimonious dictum to defend every and all lives .

A us citizen has one citizenship that is federal and a another citizenship within one of us 50 states by residence .

The alito opinion stating that " potential life " was not sufficiently explained by #roevwade court is a dumbfounded , seditious , lie !

None should need to explain a " logically , of course " deduction from us constitution to a supreme court justice !

The legal community at large should be castigated for ignoring copious notice , for failing to deduce an a'priori " logically , of course " political science deduction , and for relegating a birth requirement for equal protection with a citizen to a trifling spat over populism !



 
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Mac-7 said: “The problem is that an unprincipled and corrupt government attacked trump first and refused to reform itself through democratic means” mvc-n.23.11.03 #3

No Trump wanted to lock his first opponent up without due process of law. Just on the basis of him being elected.

And he first accused Obama in an appeal to racists as not being a legitimate president although he was elected with the popular vote on top of his electoral college win.

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Interesting. If I recall correctly, the 10th Amendment deals with powers not delegated to the government belonging to the states. It doesn't need to.

Since the Constitution doesn't specifically address abortion being a power belonging to the government, the states have the right to pass their own laws concerning it.

Quite a basic explanation, really. Gotcha questions are so old and antiquated.
The 10th amendment addresses literally everything the constitution doesn’t talk about.

The constitution doesn’t talk about abortion.

Ergo, the 10th Amendment is the salient text for abortion.

QED.

Logic and rhetoric is lacking in some folks.
 
M14 Shooter said:

Speaking of anti-abortion:
Roe allows states to destroy a woman's bodily autonomy, force her to carry a child to term, and takes away her right to choose.
Yet you whine and cry about it being overturned.
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RvW ruled a state can have an interest in protecting the life of the fetus at 24 weeks
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All women who choose to end their unwanted pregnancy, do so well before 24 weeks, so RvW gave women bodily autonomy with plenty of time to make their decisions and schedule an appointment with a doctor.

Dobbs imposed no time to schedule an appointment when states pass a heartbeat ban as Republicans did in Florida.

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The 10th amendment addresses literally everything the constitution doesn’t talk about.
The constitution doesn’t talk about abortion.
Ergo, the 10th Amendment is the salient text for abortion.
QED.
Logic and rhetoric is lacking in some folks.
Such selective ignorance about us constitution relates pretentious , banal , blathering that non enumerated rites of behavior do not exist within us constitution ; such a terminal consideration is intellectually retarded and indicative of traitors to principles of us republic .


* Within Constraints Of Safety And Security Of Individuals *

The principles in a credo , from a motto of e pluribus unum for us republic , expects independence as individualism , with equal protection of negative liberties among individuals .

A legitimate state interest is founded upon its citizens and individuals within its jurisdiction .

A legitimate state interest is NOT founded upon non citizens and non individuals outside of its jurisdiction .

There is not a sanctimonious dictum to defend every and all lives .


* Watching A Troll Conversing With Itself In Reflection *
Logic and rhetoric is lacking in some folks.
No doubt , a circle jerk figment of yearn own imagination .


* Running Amok Populism Catching Up Quickly *
" Antiquated Dogma Of Statists Pandering Deceit About Us 10th Amendment "
* Anti-Federalism Hubris Statists For Populism Of Democracy As Tyranny By Collective Majority Against Principles Of Individualism *

A legitimate state interest is founded upon its citizens and individuals within its jurisdiction .
A legitimate state interest is NOT founded upon non citizens and non individuals outside of its jurisdiction .
There is not a sanctimonious dictum to defend every and all lives .
A us citizen has one citizenship that is federal and a another citizenship within one of us 50 states by residence .
The alito opinion stating that " potential life " was not sufficiently explained by #roevwade court is a dumbfounded , seditious , lie !
None should need to explain a " logically , of course " deduction from us constitution to a supreme court justice !
The legal community at large should be castigated for ignoring copious notice , for failing to deduce an a'priori " logically , of course " political science deduction , and for relegating a birth requirement for equal protection with a citizen to a trifling spat over populism !
 
The 10th amendment addresses literally everything the constitution doesn’t talk about.

The constitution doesn’t talk about abortion.

Ergo, the 10th Amendment is the salient text for abortion.

QED.

Logic and rhetoric is lacking in some folks.
So then the repeal of Roe vs Wade is legit.
 
" Myopia Of Rite Handedness Decided Without Regard For Reflexive Symmetry "

* Ass Squawking Traitors To Principles Of Us Republic Indulging In Their Own Flatulence *


Such selective ignorance about us constitution relates pretentious , banal , blathering that non enumerated rites of behavior do not exist within us constitution ; such a terminal consideration is intellectually retarded and indicative of traitors to principles of us republic .


* Within Constraints Of Safety And Security Of Individuals *

The principles in a credo , from a motto of e pluribus unum for us republic , expects independence as individualism , with equal protection of negative liberties among individuals .

A legitimate state interest is founded upon its citizens and individuals within its jurisdiction .

A legitimate state interest is NOT founded upon non citizens and non individuals outside of its jurisdiction .

There is not a sanctimonious dictum to defend every and all lives .


* Watching A Troll Conversing With Itself In Reflection *

No doubt , a circle jerk figment of yearn own imagination .


* Running Amok Populism Catching Up Quickly *
Ape boi ^ still babbling. But at least his gibberish is still incoherent.
 
OHow 'One Nation' Didn't Become 'Under God' Until The '50s Religious Revival

Kruse's book investigates how the idea of America as a Christian nation was promoted in the 1930s and '40s when industrialists and business lobbies, chafing against the government regulations of the New Deal, recruited and funded conservative clergy to preach faith, freedom and free enterprise. He says this conflation of Christianity and capitalism moved to center stage in the '50s under Eisenhower's watch.
 
tahuyaman said: “Only in the partisan hack left wing world is it considered totalitarianism to make government more responsive to the voters of a state. Strange but true.” thymn.21.12.01 #80
Blackrook said: “If Republicans abandoned pro-lifers I would not vote for them any more. “ blckrck.23.09.21 #2
80zephyr said: If life begins at conception, it should not be a "matter of conscience" as to whether it should be protected or not. This should be self evident” nnzphr.23.02.02 #7,055
Does everyone agree with Saint Zepher’80
that it should not be a "matter of conscience" as to whether a human conception should be protected or not?

I say matters of conscience of this ‘mystery of life’ nature are protected; so my answer is no.

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NotfooledbyW said: “Ninety-five percent of all abortions happen between six weeks and sixteen weeks” nf.23.09.19 #1

Blackrook said: “If Republicans abandoned pro-lifers I would not vote for them any more. “ blckrck.23.09.21 #2

According to the factual data from my messsge nf.23.09.19 #1 it certainly appears to be the case that most Republican leaders are willing to kill ninety-five percent of all baby fetuses between the gestational ages of six and sixteen weeks in order to win elections.

So Saint Blackrook will you keep your word and never vote for a Republican again until they renew their commitment to save all baby fetuses from the moment they are conceived?

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alang1216 said: “Will you admit that everything you know about God comes from a religion?”@vlvng.23.11.06 #535

ding said: “I've forgotten more science than you ever knew.” dvng.23.11.06 #537

Saint Ding is so close to “his” vision of god and science but he has abandoned his closeness to being a human - a born conscious life consuming human being with true understanding. Comes with being impressed with himself specifically when ‘shaming’ female humans who did not intend to become pregnant.

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