Rittenhouse jury just went to deliberate

[progressive hunter]

Yes.

then youre a ******* idiot,,

 

[maybelooking]

So, if anyone uses a gun in self-defense, that person is an active shooter?

Why are we arguing about this again?

its what people who have no facts on their side do.

might as well argue about nonsense because the actual facts of the case that have been laid out over the past week cant be disputed.

Kyles claims of self defense are evident. So lets call him an "active shooter" to make the case against him somehow look stronger.

Theres not a person arguing in this thread that doesn't know that an active shooter doesn't wait until someone attacks him first to shoot them!!! But idiots here are trying to make the case because.....well......they dont live in reality land.

 

[FA_Q2]

Then ask again. I’ll answer.

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Now I am confused. You did answer. You said that you were just reaffirming the fact. I was wondering if you hade quoted me and made that statement because you were alluding to a greater point. One that very well could have been made earlier. I would have expected what you said, that it was just affirming the point, or a reiteration/post of the point you wanted to make. You said said the former.

Am I missing something?

 

[JohnDB]

It appears to me,
That many people are assigning "gun guilt" to Kyle.
Meaning that by simply having possession of a firearm he is guilty of something.

A completely automated response ingrained into people by Hollywood and particular elements of society.

And they can't get past this.

A gun is just a tool... nothing more or less.
Just like a drill, hammer, or shovel. Or possibly a chef's knife.

These things can be used as a weapon...but that's not their primary purpose. A firearm is just another tool useful for many things like self protection (like a bullet vest) and hunting and target shooting.

You cannot ascribe "gun guilt" in a court of law just because of his possession of a firearm. Nobody is ascribing practicing medicine without a license because he offered first aide...
Same thing here.

 

[Correll]

If someone is in act of shooting a firearm, they are an active shooter. Does this confuse you?

When I was a soldier firing my rifle in a combat situation, I was an active shooter. When I was on the range qualifying, I was an active shooter.

That is not the usage the Prosecutor or his lib allies are using.


They are trying to use semantic games to gain control of the narrative so they can spin this to justify their rioting brownshirts attacks.


Rittenhouse was NOT an active shooter. HE was NOT hunting people to shot them. He was trying to get away, and only shooting them when they were an immediate threat to him.

 

[tahuyaman]

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Now I am confused. You did answer. You said that you were just reaffirming the fact. I was wondering if you hade quoted me and made that statement because you were alluding to a greater point. One that very well could have been made earlier. I would have expected what you said, that it was just affirming the point, or a reiteration/post of the point you wanted to make. You said said the former.

Am I missing something?

Ok. Good bye. Run along.

 

[FA_Q2]

It appears to me,
That many people are assigning "gun guilt" to Kyle.
Meaning that by simply having possession of a firearm he is guilty of something.

A completely automated response ingrained into people by Hollywood and particular elements of society.

And they can't get past this.

A gun is just a tool... nothing more or less.
Just like a drill, hammer, or shovel. Or possibly a chef's knife.

These things can be used as a weapon...but that's not their primary purpose. A firearm is just another tool useful for many things like self protection (like a bullet vest) and hunting and target shooting.

You cannot ascribe "gun guilt" in a court of law just because of his possession of a firearm. Nobody is ascribing practicing medicine without a license because he offered first aide...
Same thing here.

It is an effect of making a legal case peg fit into a political point hole.

The case needs to fit the proper narrative so it will be twisted to do so. In this case, gun control and racism were the political narrative on the left and lawlessness and rioting were the narratives on the right.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

If someone is in act of shooting a firearm, they are an active shooter. Does this confuse you?

When I was a soldier firing my rifle in a combat situation, I was an active shooter. When I was on the range qualifying, I was an active shooter.

LOL according to you then even though in self defense others can attack you because you as you claim are an active shooter.

 

[FA_Q2]

Ok. Good bye. Run along.

Man, you are a complete asshat. I was not actually expecting that. Unfortunate.

 

[tahuyaman]

That is not the usage the Prosecutor or his lib allies are using.


They are trying to use semantic games to gain control of the narrative so they can spin this to justify their rioting brownshirts attacks.


Rittenhouse was NOT an active shooter. HE was NOT hunting people to shot them. He was trying to get away, and only shooting them when they were an immediate threat to him.

It’s obvious that Rittenhouse armed himself and went to that riot with the intent of shooting someone. The kid has a hero complex.

 

[M14 Shooter]

If someone is in act of shooting a firearm, they are an active shooter. Does this confuse you?

Why would you so terribly mis-apply this term?

FBI:
An active shooter is an individual actively engaged in killing or attempting to kill people in a populated area,

Active Shooter Safety Resources | Federal Bureau of Investigation

This is the FBI's one-stop shopping webpage for information pertaining to active shooting incidents. The Bureau continues its commitment to working with its partners to protect schools, workplaces, houses of worship, transportation centers, other public gathering sites, and communities from...

www.fbi.gov

DHS:
An Active Shooter is an individual actively engaged in killing or attempting to kill people in
a confined and populated area; in most cases, active shooters use firearms(s) and there is no pattern or method to their selection of victim

https://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/active_shooter_booklet.pdf

USDOJ
One or more individuals actively engaged in killing or attempting to kill people in a
populated area

https://www.justice.gov/usao-mdpa/page/file/1272096/download

 

[M14 Shooter]

It’s obvious that Rittenhouse armed himself and went to that riot with the intent of shooting someone.

Please provide the rational basis for your claim of intent.

 

[tahuyaman]

LOL according to you then even though in self defense others can attack you because you as you claim are an active shooter.

If one is actively shooting a firearm they an active shooter.

Jeebus, what’s the problem here?

 

[progressive hunter]

It’s obvious that Rittenhouse armed himself and went to that riot with the intent of shooting someone. The kid has a hero complex.

then why did he wait until he was attacked and then stopped once the attacks stopped??

 

[tahuyaman]

So an active shooter is not someone who is actively shooting a firearm? How can that be possible?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

It’s obvious that Rittenhouse armed himself and went to that riot with the intent of shooting someone. The kid has a hero complex.

Reading minds now? Perhaps you can explain why he only shot those directly attacking him?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

If one is actively shooting a firearm they an active shooter.

Jeebus, what’s the problem here?

It has no meaning then and should not be used in court since according to YOUR definition no matter the reason it is applied.

 

[progressive hunter]

So an active shooter is not someone who is actively shooting a firearm? How can that be possible?

here let me google that for you,,,

Active shooter - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Resnic]

Man, you are a complete asshat. I was not actually expecting that. Unfortunate.

Don't bother. I've seen his overwhelming amount of constant responses in this thread. Each one changes based on what he is replying to. Side step, double down, statements made change every 3 or 4 pages, or just completely dismissive. His goal is to be right in each scenario with no room for discussion, it's all just point blank "I am right and you are wrong", there is no discussion, it's like just a game to win to him and very little is backed up by facts, it's all opinion based.

 

[Godboy]

If someone is in act of shooting a firearm, they are an active shooter. Does this confuse you?

When I was a soldier firing my rifle in a combat situation, I was an active shooter. When I was on the range qualifying, I was an active shooter.

That is incorrect. Im not sure where you got that idea from. Are you thinking it is defined by the literal words "active" and "shooter"? Its not.


Active shooter or active killer describes the perpetrator of a type of mass murder marked by rapidity, scale, randomness, and often suicide. The United States Department of Homeland Security defines an active shooter as "an individual actively engaged in killing or attempting to kill people in a confined and populated area; in most cases, active shooters use firearms and there is no pattern or method to their selection of victims."

Active shooter - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org