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[Tommy Tainant]

Yet another gun thread with nothing but deflections and lies from the right, and as usual no viable solutions.

This thread seems to have agitated them a bit. Is it possible that deep down they have some decency and know that it is wrong ?

what agitates us is your refusal to understand rational behavior. Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to save lives....according to the Centers for disease Control research.....that is a number far larger than the accidental deaths of children, 62, due to the majority criminals who leave their illegal guns lying around their homes, in order to protect themselves and their illegal drugs from other criminals.

Law abiding Americans use their legal guns far more often to save lives, than criminals use their illegal guns to murder people.....yet you refuse to understand that fact.

Made up figures. List the instances ya lying shit.

You want him to list 1.1 million instances for you?

Well it equates to over 3000 a day. That's 21000 a week. Let's have the proof.

 

[2aguy]

Yet another gun thread with nothing but deflections and lies from the right, and as usual no viable solutions.

This thread seems to have agitated them a bit. Is it possible that deep down they have some decency and know that it is wrong ?

what agitates us is your refusal to understand rational behavior. Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to save lives....according to the Centers for disease Control research.....that is a number far larger than the accidental deaths of children, 62, due to the majority criminals who leave their illegal guns lying around their homes, in order to protect themselves and their illegal drugs from other criminals.

Law abiding Americans use their legal guns far more often to save lives, than criminals use their illegal guns to murder people.....yet you refuse to understand that fact.

Made up figures. List the instances ya lying shit.

You want him to list 1.1 million instances for you?

Well it equates to over 3000 a day. That's 21000 a week. Let's have the proof.

A quick guide to the studies and the numbers.....the full lay out of what was studied by each study is in the links....

The name of the group doing the study, the year of the study, the number of defensive gun uses and if police and military defensive gun uses are included.....notice the bill clinton and obama defensive gun use research is highlighted.....

GunCite-Gun Control-How Often Are Guns Used in Self-Defense

GunCite Frequency of Defensive Gun Use in Previous Surveys

Field...1976....3,052,717 ( no cops, no military)

DMIa 1978...2,141,512 ( no cops, no military)

L.A. TIMES...1994...3,609,68 ( no cops, no military)

Kleck......1994...2.5 million ( no cops, no military)

CDC...1996-1998... 1.1 million averaged over those years.( no cops, no military)

Obama's CDC....2013....500,000--3million

--------------------


Bordua...1977...1,414,544

DMIb...1978...1,098,409 ( no cops, no military)

Hart...1981...1.797,461 ( no cops, no military)

Mauser...1990...1,487,342 ( no cops,no military)

Gallup...1993...1,621,377 ( no cops, no military)

DEPT. OF JUSTICE...1994...1.5 million ( the bill clinton study)

Journal of Quantitative Criminology--- 989,883 times per year."

(Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18])

Paper: "Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment." By David McDowall and others. Journal of Quantitative Criminology, March 2000. Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment - Springer


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Ohio...1982...771,043

Gallup...1991...777,152

Tarrance... 1994... 764,036 (no cops, no military)

Lawerence Southwich Jr. 400,000 fewer violent crimes and at least 800,000 violent crimes deterred..

 

[gallantwarrior]

Coroner rules fatal shooting of 4-year-old an accident

Picked up a gun in the house and shot himself with his dads gun.

No drugs, no violent movies, no broken homes, no gang members.

No consequences either. Life is cheap in the US.

Would you feel better if the toddler had accidentally fallen out an open window and broken his neck?

Better he had been aborted.

 

[satrebil]

"Oh no! Some dumb shit parents left a gun where a child could get it! We need to punish 80+ million other Americans who had nothing to do with it!"

- Leftists

 

[Tommy Tainant]

This thread seems to have agitated them a bit. Is it possible that deep down they have some decency and know that it is wrong ?

what agitates us is your refusal to understand rational behavior. Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to save lives....according to the Centers for disease Control research.....that is a number far larger than the accidental deaths of children, 62, due to the majority criminals who leave their illegal guns lying around their homes, in order to protect themselves and their illegal drugs from other criminals.

Law abiding Americans use their legal guns far more often to save lives, than criminals use their illegal guns to murder people.....yet you refuse to understand that fact.

Made up figures. List the instances ya lying shit.

You want him to list 1.1 million instances for you?

Well it equates to over 3000 a day. That's 21000 a week. Let's have the proof.

A quick guide to the studies and the numbers.....the full lay out of what was studied by each study is in the links....

The name of the group doing the study, the year of the study, the number of defensive gun uses and if police and military defensive gun uses are included.....notice the bill clinton and obama defensive gun use research is highlighted.....

GunCite-Gun Control-How Often Are Guns Used in Self-Defense

GunCite Frequency of Defensive Gun Use in Previous Surveys

Field...1976....3,052,717 ( no cops, no military)

DMIa 1978...2,141,512 ( no cops, no military)

L.A. TIMES...1994...3,609,68 ( no cops, no military)

Kleck......1994...2.5 million ( no cops, no military)

CDC...1996-1998... 1.1 million averaged over those years.( no cops, no military)

Obama's CDC....2013....500,000--3million

--------------------


Bordua...1977...1,414,544

DMIb...1978...1,098,409 ( no cops, no military)

Hart...1981...1.797,461 ( no cops, no military)

Mauser...1990...1,487,342 ( no cops,no military)

Gallup...1993...1,621,377 ( no cops, no military)

DEPT. OF JUSTICE...1994...1.5 million ( the bill clinton study)

Journal of Quantitative Criminology--- 989,883 times per year."

(Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18])

Paper: "Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment." By David McDowall and others. Journal of Quantitative Criminology, March 2000. Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment - Springer


-------------------------------------------

Ohio...1982...771,043

Gallup...1991...777,152

Tarrance... 1994... 764,036 (no cops, no military)

Lawerence Southwich Jr. 400,000 fewer violent crimes and at least 800,000 violent crimes deterred..

Hmmmm. Can you give me some examples from last week ?

 

[Cecilie1200]

Yet another gun thread with nothing but deflections and lies from the right, and as usual no viable solutions.

This thread seems to have agitated them a bit. Is it possible that deep down they have some decency and know that it is wrong ?

what agitates us is your refusal to understand rational behavior. Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to save lives....according to the Centers for disease Control research.....that is a number far larger than the accidental deaths of children, 62, due to the majority criminals who leave their illegal guns lying around their homes, in order to protect themselves and their illegal drugs from other criminals.

Law abiding Americans use their legal guns far more often to save lives, than criminals use their illegal guns to murder people.....yet you refuse to understand that fact.

Made up figures. List the instances ya lying shit.

You want him to list 1.1 million instances for you?

Well it equates to over 3000 a day. That's 21000 a week. Let's have the proof.

Dimwit, I have lost count of the number of times you have had this very point verified for you through the statistics on various government websites such as the CDCP, the FBI, and the DOJ. And every damned time, you utterly ignore it and keep one shouting your assumptions into the ether, and then come back on another thread and start demanding proof again like nothing happened.

So I tell you what. Let's have the proof that you have a functioning memory and that we're not just throwing perfectly good information down a giant, swirling toilet bowl in your skull, and maybe then I'll go to the trouble of citing the sources for the umpteenth time.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

This thread seems to have agitated them a bit. Is it possible that deep down they have some decency and know that it is wrong ?

what agitates us is your refusal to understand rational behavior. Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to save lives....according to the Centers for disease Control research.....that is a number far larger than the accidental deaths of children, 62, due to the majority criminals who leave their illegal guns lying around their homes, in order to protect themselves and their illegal drugs from other criminals.

Law abiding Americans use their legal guns far more often to save lives, than criminals use their illegal guns to murder people.....yet you refuse to understand that fact.

Made up figures. List the instances ya lying shit.

You want him to list 1.1 million instances for you?

Well it equates to over 3000 a day. That's 21000 a week. Let's have the proof.

Dimwit, I have lost count of the number of times you have had this very point verified for you through the statistics on various government websites such as the CDCP, the FBI, and the DOJ. And every damned time, you utterly ignore it and keep one shouting your assumptions into the ether, and then come back on another thread and start demanding proof again like nothing happened.

So I tell you what. Let's have the proof that you have a functioning memory and that we're not just throwing perfectly good information down a giant, swirling toilet bowl in your skull, and maybe then I'll go to the trouble of citing the sources for the umpteenth time.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/09332480.1997.10542033?journalCode=ucha20
This was the first link I opened. Gun nuts making it up ? Surely not.

 

[2aguy]

what agitates us is your refusal to understand rational behavior. Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to save lives....according to the Centers for disease Control research.....that is a number far larger than the accidental deaths of children, 62, due to the majority criminals who leave their illegal guns lying around their homes, in order to protect themselves and their illegal drugs from other criminals.

Law abiding Americans use their legal guns far more often to save lives, than criminals use their illegal guns to murder people.....yet you refuse to understand that fact.

Made up figures. List the instances ya lying shit.

You want him to list 1.1 million instances for you?

Well it equates to over 3000 a day. That's 21000 a week. Let's have the proof.

Dimwit, I have lost count of the number of times you have had this very point verified for you through the statistics on various government websites such as the CDCP, the FBI, and the DOJ. And every damned time, you utterly ignore it and keep one shouting your assumptions into the ether, and then come back on another thread and start demanding proof again like nothing happened.

So I tell you what. Let's have the proof that you have a functioning memory and that we're not just throwing perfectly good information down a giant, swirling toilet bowl in your skull, and maybe then I'll go to the trouble of citing the sources for the umpteenth time.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/09332480.1997.10542033?journalCode=ucha20
This was the first link I opened. Gun nuts making it up ? Surely not.

David Hemenway is a hack......

The take down of Hemenway...
https://www.saf.org/wp-content/uploads/journals/JFPP11.pdf

These critics do not mainly support the low-DGU thesis by affirmatively presenting relevant empirical evidence indicating few DGUs. The only empirical evidence affirmatively cited in support of the low-DGU thesis is the uniquely low estimates derived from the NCVS. The critics appear in no way embarrassed by the fact that the only national estimate they can cite in support of their theory is a survey that does not even ask respondents the key question––whether they have used a gun for self-protection. Instead, the critics get around the large volume of contrary survey evidence by pronouncing all of it invalid and insisting that all surveys (excepting the NCVS?) grossly overstate the frequency of DGU.
----

For example, it is a useful exercise to contrast Hemenway’s assessment of the NSDS results with his uncritical citation (Hemenway 1997b, p. 1442) of findings from a bizarre study (Kellermann et al. 1995) in which the authors assessed the frequency of DGUs linked with home invasion crimes entirely on the basis of the number of times victims volunteered information about such DGUs to Atlanta police.

According to the Atlanta Police Department, the offense report forms that their officers fill out do not include a box or other place calling for information about victim weapon use, nor are officers trained or required to ask crime victims about such things. Thus, information about victim weapon use, no matter how common it might in fact be, would almost never appear in police offense reports (a fact reported in the journal that published the Kellermann article––see Fotis 1996; confirmed by Kooi 1997). Nevertheless, solely on the basis of Atlanta Police Department offense reports, Kellermann and his colleagues concluded that DGUs almost never occurred in connection with home invasion crimes, because they were almost never mentioned in the offense reports! Having made no effort to uncover any DGUs in a way likely to locate any, Kellermann et al. saw nothing wrong with concluding that they almost never occur.

Hemenway likewise treated the results of this study as if they indicate something about how often DGUs actually occur in connection with this sort of crime (“in only 3 cases [1.5%] was a victim able to use a firearm in self-defense”––p. 1442). He evidently either could not see any flaws in Kellermann’s reasoning, or did not feel obliged to point them out to readers, if uncritically citing these obviously non sequitur conclusions could be used to advance his arguments. Apparently no study could be too transparently and fatally flawed, if it supported the rare DGU thesis.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Made up figures. List the instances ya lying shit.

You want him to list 1.1 million instances for you?

Well it equates to over 3000 a day. That's 21000 a week. Let's have the proof.

Dimwit, I have lost count of the number of times you have had this very point verified for you through the statistics on various government websites such as the CDCP, the FBI, and the DOJ. And every damned time, you utterly ignore it and keep one shouting your assumptions into the ether, and then come back on another thread and start demanding proof again like nothing happened.

So I tell you what. Let's have the proof that you have a functioning memory and that we're not just throwing perfectly good information down a giant, swirling toilet bowl in your skull, and maybe then I'll go to the trouble of citing the sources for the umpteenth time.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/09332480.1997.10542033?journalCode=ucha20
This was the first link I opened. Gun nuts making it up ? Surely not.

David Hemenway is a hack......

The take down of Hemenway...
https://www.saf.org/wp-content/uploads/journals/JFPP11.pdf

These critics do not mainly support the low-DGU thesis by affirmatively presenting relevant empirical evidence indicating few DGUs. The only empirical evidence affirmatively cited in support of the low-DGU thesis is the uniquely low estimates derived from the NCVS. The critics appear in no way embarrassed by the fact that the only national estimate they can cite in support of their theory is a survey that does not even ask respondents the key question––whether they have used a gun for self-protection. Instead, the critics get around the large volume of contrary survey evidence by pronouncing all of it invalid and insisting that all surveys (excepting the NCVS?) grossly overstate the frequency of DGU.
----

For example, it is a useful exercise to contrast Hemenway’s assessment of the NSDS results with his uncritical citation (Hemenway 1997b, p. 1442) of findings from a bizarre study (Kellermann et al. 1995) in which the authors assessed the frequency of DGUs linked with home invasion crimes entirely on the basis of the number of times victims volunteered information about such DGUs to Atlanta police.

According to the Atlanta Police Department, the offense report forms that their officers fill out do not include a box or other place calling for information about victim weapon use, nor are officers trained or required to ask crime victims about such things. Thus, information about victim weapon use, no matter how common it might in fact be, would almost never appear in police offense reports (a fact reported in the journal that published the Kellermann article––see Fotis 1996; confirmed by Kooi 1997). Nevertheless, solely on the basis of Atlanta Police Department offense reports, Kellermann and his colleagues concluded that DGUs almost never occurred in connection with home invasion crimes, because they were almost never mentioned in the offense reports! Having made no effort to uncover any DGUs in a way likely to locate any, Kellermann et al. saw nothing wrong with concluding that they almost never occur. Hemenway likewise treated the results of this study as if they indicate something about how often DGUs actually occur in connection with this sort of crime (“in only 3 cases [1.5%] was a victim able to use a firearm in self-defense”––p. 1442). He evidently either could not see any flaws in Kellermann’s reasoning, or did not feel obliged to point them out to readers, if uncritically citing these obviously non sequitur conclusions could be used to advance his arguments. Apparently no study could be too transparently and fatally flawed, if it supported the rare DGU thesis.

You gave me the link bozo.

 

[2aguy]

what agitates us is your refusal to understand rational behavior. Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to save lives....according to the Centers for disease Control research.....that is a number far larger than the accidental deaths of children, 62, due to the majority criminals who leave their illegal guns lying around their homes, in order to protect themselves and their illegal drugs from other criminals.

Law abiding Americans use their legal guns far more often to save lives, than criminals use their illegal guns to murder people.....yet you refuse to understand that fact.

Made up figures. List the instances ya lying shit.

You want him to list 1.1 million instances for you?

Well it equates to over 3000 a day. That's 21000 a week. Let's have the proof.

Dimwit, I have lost count of the number of times you have had this very point verified for you through the statistics on various government websites such as the CDCP, the FBI, and the DOJ. And every damned time, you utterly ignore it and keep one shouting your assumptions into the ether, and then come back on another thread and start demanding proof again like nothing happened.

So I tell you what. Let's have the proof that you have a functioning memory and that we're not just throwing perfectly good information down a giant, swirling toilet bowl in your skull, and maybe then I'll go to the trouble of citing the sources for the umpteenth time.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/09332480.1997.10542033?journalCode=ucha20
This was the first link I opened. Gun nuts making it up ? Surely not.

17 studies vs. Hemenway....a known, anti-gun hack, who, as my last post shows, doesn't even do quality research....

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Made up figures. List the instances ya lying shit.

You want him to list 1.1 million instances for you?

Well it equates to over 3000 a day. That's 21000 a week. Let's have the proof.

Dimwit, I have lost count of the number of times you have had this very point verified for you through the statistics on various government websites such as the CDCP, the FBI, and the DOJ. And every damned time, you utterly ignore it and keep one shouting your assumptions into the ether, and then come back on another thread and start demanding proof again like nothing happened.

So I tell you what. Let's have the proof that you have a functioning memory and that we're not just throwing perfectly good information down a giant, swirling toilet bowl in your skull, and maybe then I'll go to the trouble of citing the sources for the umpteenth time.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/09332480.1997.10542033?journalCode=ucha20
This was the first link I opened. Gun nuts making it up ? Surely not.

17 studies vs. Hemenway....a known, anti-gun hack, who, as my last post shows, doesn't even do quality research....

You still havent given any examples from last week. The Gun Violence Archive provides about 20 verified incidents. Do you have any advance on that ?

 

[Cecilie1200]

what agitates us is your refusal to understand rational behavior. Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to save lives....according to the Centers for disease Control research.....that is a number far larger than the accidental deaths of children, 62, due to the majority criminals who leave their illegal guns lying around their homes, in order to protect themselves and their illegal drugs from other criminals.

Law abiding Americans use their legal guns far more often to save lives, than criminals use their illegal guns to murder people.....yet you refuse to understand that fact.

Made up figures. List the instances ya lying shit.

You want him to list 1.1 million instances for you?

Well it equates to over 3000 a day. That's 21000 a week. Let's have the proof.

Dimwit, I have lost count of the number of times you have had this very point verified for you through the statistics on various government websites such as the CDCP, the FBI, and the DOJ. And every damned time, you utterly ignore it and keep one shouting your assumptions into the ether, and then come back on another thread and start demanding proof again like nothing happened.

So I tell you what. Let's have the proof that you have a functioning memory and that we're not just throwing perfectly good information down a giant, swirling toilet bowl in your skull, and maybe then I'll go to the trouble of citing the sources for the umpteenth time.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/09332480.1997.10542033?journalCode=ucha20
This was the first link I opened. Gun nuts making it up ? Surely not.

The first link on what?

 

[2aguy]

You want him to list 1.1 million instances for you?

Well it equates to over 3000 a day. That's 21000 a week. Let's have the proof.

Dimwit, I have lost count of the number of times you have had this very point verified for you through the statistics on various government websites such as the CDCP, the FBI, and the DOJ. And every damned time, you utterly ignore it and keep one shouting your assumptions into the ether, and then come back on another thread and start demanding proof again like nothing happened.

So I tell you what. Let's have the proof that you have a functioning memory and that we're not just throwing perfectly good information down a giant, swirling toilet bowl in your skull, and maybe then I'll go to the trouble of citing the sources for the umpteenth time.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/09332480.1997.10542033?journalCode=ucha20
This was the first link I opened. Gun nuts making it up ? Surely not.

17 studies vs. Hemenway....a known, anti-gun hack, who, as my last post shows, doesn't even do quality research....

You still havent given any examples from last week. The Gun Violence Archive provides about 20 verified incidents. Do you have any advance on that ?

Since these are local stories and are rarely covered by national news.....

May 17....

Homeowner tried to defend property from burglar with stick. When that didn’t work, he used a gun

A man in Thurston County was forced to defend himself Friday when a homeless intruder broke into his home.

Police say the suspect trespassed onto the property and refused to leave after being told by the homeowner. That's when things took a turn for the worse.

The Thurston County Sheriff's Office said when the intruder didn’t leave, he started to come through the back door and attack the homeowner.

Detectives say the homeowner did his best to fend off the burglary suspect in his kitchen, using a piece of wood. When that wasn’t enough, he fired a single shot, hitting the intruder in the chest.

May 15....another local story not covered by national news...

Woman afraid boyfriend would cut her, shoots him five times, police say

Believing that her boyfriend was retrieving knives to cut her, a woman shot him Wednesday inside their south Fort Worth house, police said.

The woman shot the man five times, in his torso and his arm, Fort Worth police said. The man was in critical condition in the minutes after he was shot and was in surgery at John Peter Smith Hospital. Police did not release his name or age.

The woman was being interviewed by family violence unit detectives.

The violence erupted about 11 a.m. in the house near Clovermeadow and Shadymeadow Drives, police said.

The man made a threat to harm his girlfriend during a dispute, police said.

When the woman, whose name and age police also did not release, believed that her boyfriend went downstairs to get knives, she went upstairs and “grabbed the gun that they keep in the house,” police said.

May 19...another local story....

Tennessee Self defense: Police: Shooter Acted In Self defense Two People Dead :: Firearms Owners Against Crime

HIXSON, Tenn. - Chattanooga Police Department says no charges will be filed for the man who shot and killed two people Saturday night.

Officials say the shooter 25-year-old Cameron Denton appears to have acted in self defense.

Police say they arrived to 6700 block of Ardis Lane after reports of shooting

They found two people suffering from gunshot wounds.

Officials say 27-year-old Kirtus Thompson died on the scene and 57-year-old Douglas Patterson was transported to a local hospital where he later died.

The shooter was also transported to the hospital for treatment after suffering serious injuries.

The investigation is active at this time.

Chattanooga Police ask anyone with information regarding this incident to call the homicide tip line at 423-643-5100 or submit a tip via the CPD Mobile App. You can remain anonymous.

Wabash Trail homeowner opens fire on intruder in kitchen, two later arrested in burglary

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Well it equates to over 3000 a day. That's 21000 a week. Let's have the proof.

Dimwit, I have lost count of the number of times you have had this very point verified for you through the statistics on various government websites such as the CDCP, the FBI, and the DOJ. And every damned time, you utterly ignore it and keep one shouting your assumptions into the ether, and then come back on another thread and start demanding proof again like nothing happened.

So I tell you what. Let's have the proof that you have a functioning memory and that we're not just throwing perfectly good information down a giant, swirling toilet bowl in your skull, and maybe then I'll go to the trouble of citing the sources for the umpteenth time.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/09332480.1997.10542033?journalCode=ucha20
This was the first link I opened. Gun nuts making it up ? Surely not.

17 studies vs. Hemenway....a known, anti-gun hack, who, as my last post shows, doesn't even do quality research....

You still havent given any examples from last week. The Gun Violence Archive provides about 20 verified incidents. Do you have any advance on that ?

Since these are local stories and are rarely covered by national news.....

May 17....

Homeowner tried to defend property from burglar with stick. When that didn’t work, he used a gun

A man in Thurston County was forced to defend himself Friday when a homeless intruder broke into his home.

Police say the suspect trespassed onto the property and refused to leave after being told by the homeowner. That's when things took a turn for the worse.

The Thurston County Sheriff's Office said when the intruder didn’t leave, he started to come through the back door and attack the homeowner.

Detectives say the homeowner did his best to fend off the burglary suspect in his kitchen, using a piece of wood. When that wasn’t enough, he fired a single shot, hitting the intruder in the chest.

May 15....another local story not covered by national news...

Woman afraid boyfriend would cut her, shoots him five times, police say

Believing that her boyfriend was retrieving knives to cut her, a woman shot him Wednesday inside their south Fort Worth house, police said.

The woman shot the man five times, in his torso and his arm, Fort Worth police said. The man was in critical condition in the minutes after he was shot and was in surgery at John Peter Smith Hospital. Police did not release his name or age.

The woman was being interviewed by family violence unit detectives.

The violence erupted about 11 a.m. in the house near Clovermeadow and Shadymeadow Drives, police said.

The man made a threat to harm his girlfriend during a dispute, police said.

When the woman, whose name and age police also did not release, believed that her boyfriend went downstairs to get knives, she went upstairs and “grabbed the gun that they keep in the house,” police said.

May 19...another local story....

Tennessee Self defense: Police: Shooter Acted In Self defense Two People Dead :: Firearms Owners Against Crime

HIXSON, Tenn. - Chattanooga Police Department says no charges will be filed for the man who shot and killed two people Saturday night.

Officials say the shooter 25-year-old Cameron Denton appears to have acted in self defense.

Police say they arrived to 6700 block of Ardis Lane after reports of shooting

They found two people suffering from gunshot wounds.

Officials say 27-year-old Kirtus Thompson died on the scene and 57-year-old Douglas Patterson was transported to a local hospital where he later died.

The shooter was also transported to the hospital for treatment after suffering serious injuries.

The investigation is active at this time.

Chattanooga Police ask anyone with information regarding this incident to call the homicide tip line at 423-643-5100 or submit a tip via the CPD Mobile App. You can remain anonymous.

Wabash Trail homeowner opens fire on intruder in kitchen, two later arrested in burglary

They are all on the Gun Violence Archive. Out of the remaining 21k events last week you must be able to dredge up a few verified incidents.

 

[2aguy]

Dimwit, I have lost count of the number of times you have had this very point verified for you through the statistics on various government websites such as the CDCP, the FBI, and the DOJ. And every damned time, you utterly ignore it and keep one shouting your assumptions into the ether, and then come back on another thread and start demanding proof again like nothing happened.

So I tell you what. Let's have the proof that you have a functioning memory and that we're not just throwing perfectly good information down a giant, swirling toilet bowl in your skull, and maybe then I'll go to the trouble of citing the sources for the umpteenth time.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/09332480.1997.10542033?journalCode=ucha20
This was the first link I opened. Gun nuts making it up ? Surely not.

17 studies vs. Hemenway....a known, anti-gun hack, who, as my last post shows, doesn't even do quality research....

You still havent given any examples from last week. The Gun Violence Archive provides about 20 verified incidents. Do you have any advance on that ?

Since these are local stories and are rarely covered by national news.....

May 17....

Homeowner tried to defend property from burglar with stick. When that didn’t work, he used a gun

A man in Thurston County was forced to defend himself Friday when a homeless intruder broke into his home.

Police say the suspect trespassed onto the property and refused to leave after being told by the homeowner. That's when things took a turn for the worse.

The Thurston County Sheriff's Office said when the intruder didn’t leave, he started to come through the back door and attack the homeowner.

Detectives say the homeowner did his best to fend off the burglary suspect in his kitchen, using a piece of wood. When that wasn’t enough, he fired a single shot, hitting the intruder in the chest.

May 15....another local story not covered by national news...

Woman afraid boyfriend would cut her, shoots him five times, police say

Believing that her boyfriend was retrieving knives to cut her, a woman shot him Wednesday inside their south Fort Worth house, police said.

The woman shot the man five times, in his torso and his arm, Fort Worth police said. The man was in critical condition in the minutes after he was shot and was in surgery at John Peter Smith Hospital. Police did not release his name or age.

The woman was being interviewed by family violence unit detectives.

The violence erupted about 11 a.m. in the house near Clovermeadow and Shadymeadow Drives, police said.

The man made a threat to harm his girlfriend during a dispute, police said.

When the woman, whose name and age police also did not release, believed that her boyfriend went downstairs to get knives, she went upstairs and “grabbed the gun that they keep in the house,” police said.

May 19...another local story....

Tennessee Self defense: Police: Shooter Acted In Self defense Two People Dead :: Firearms Owners Against Crime

HIXSON, Tenn. - Chattanooga Police Department says no charges will be filed for the man who shot and killed two people Saturday night.

Officials say the shooter 25-year-old Cameron Denton appears to have acted in self defense.

Police say they arrived to 6700 block of Ardis Lane after reports of shooting

They found two people suffering from gunshot wounds.

Officials say 27-year-old Kirtus Thompson died on the scene and 57-year-old Douglas Patterson was transported to a local hospital where he later died.

The shooter was also transported to the hospital for treatment after suffering serious injuries.

The investigation is active at this time.

Chattanooga Police ask anyone with information regarding this incident to call the homicide tip line at 423-643-5100 or submit a tip via the CPD Mobile App. You can remain anonymous.

Wabash Trail homeowner opens fire on intruder in kitchen, two later arrested in burglary

They are all on the Gun Violence Archive. Out of the remaining 21k events last week you must be able to dredge up a few verified incidents.

Gun violence Archive only has gun criminals......

Again....17 actual studies by private and government research groups into the number of defensive gun use cases each year.....vs. you demanding I search local newspapers for shootings, when the majority of defensive uses of guns don't require anyone get shot, hence they don't make the news.....

 

[Tommy Tainant]

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/09332480.1997.10542033?journalCode=ucha20
This was the first link I opened. Gun nuts making it up ? Surely not.

17 studies vs. Hemenway....a known, anti-gun hack, who, as my last post shows, doesn't even do quality research....

You still havent given any examples from last week. The Gun Violence Archive provides about 20 verified incidents. Do you have any advance on that ?

Since these are local stories and are rarely covered by national news.....

May 17....

Homeowner tried to defend property from burglar with stick. When that didn’t work, he used a gun

A man in Thurston County was forced to defend himself Friday when a homeless intruder broke into his home.

Police say the suspect trespassed onto the property and refused to leave after being told by the homeowner. That's when things took a turn for the worse.

The Thurston County Sheriff's Office said when the intruder didn’t leave, he started to come through the back door and attack the homeowner.

Detectives say the homeowner did his best to fend off the burglary suspect in his kitchen, using a piece of wood. When that wasn’t enough, he fired a single shot, hitting the intruder in the chest.

May 15....another local story not covered by national news...

Woman afraid boyfriend would cut her, shoots him five times, police say

Believing that her boyfriend was retrieving knives to cut her, a woman shot him Wednesday inside their south Fort Worth house, police said.

The woman shot the man five times, in his torso and his arm, Fort Worth police said. The man was in critical condition in the minutes after he was shot and was in surgery at John Peter Smith Hospital. Police did not release his name or age.

The woman was being interviewed by family violence unit detectives.

The violence erupted about 11 a.m. in the house near Clovermeadow and Shadymeadow Drives, police said.

The man made a threat to harm his girlfriend during a dispute, police said.

When the woman, whose name and age police also did not release, believed that her boyfriend went downstairs to get knives, she went upstairs and “grabbed the gun that they keep in the house,” police said.

May 19...another local story....

Tennessee Self defense: Police: Shooter Acted In Self defense Two People Dead :: Firearms Owners Against Crime

HIXSON, Tenn. - Chattanooga Police Department says no charges will be filed for the man who shot and killed two people Saturday night.

Officials say the shooter 25-year-old Cameron Denton appears to have acted in self defense.

Police say they arrived to 6700 block of Ardis Lane after reports of shooting

They found two people suffering from gunshot wounds.

Officials say 27-year-old Kirtus Thompson died on the scene and 57-year-old Douglas Patterson was transported to a local hospital where he later died.

The shooter was also transported to the hospital for treatment after suffering serious injuries.

The investigation is active at this time.

Chattanooga Police ask anyone with information regarding this incident to call the homicide tip line at 423-643-5100 or submit a tip via the CPD Mobile App. You can remain anonymous.

Wabash Trail homeowner opens fire on intruder in kitchen, two later arrested in burglary

They are all on the Gun Violence Archive. Out of the remaining 21k events last week you must be able to dredge up a few verified incidents.

Gun violence Archive only has gun criminals......

Again....17 actual studies by private and government research groups into the number of defensive gun use cases each year.....vs. you demanding I search local newspapers for shootings, when the majority of defensive uses of guns don't require anyone get shot, hence they don't make the news.....

GVA has more than you have. If there are 21k a week you should be able to produce something. Its not complicated.

 

[2aguy]

17 studies vs. Hemenway....a known, anti-gun hack, who, as my last post shows, doesn't even do quality research....

You still havent given any examples from last week. The Gun Violence Archive provides about 20 verified incidents. Do you have any advance on that ?

Since these are local stories and are rarely covered by national news.....

May 17....

Homeowner tried to defend property from burglar with stick. When that didn’t work, he used a gun

A man in Thurston County was forced to defend himself Friday when a homeless intruder broke into his home.

Police say the suspect trespassed onto the property and refused to leave after being told by the homeowner. That's when things took a turn for the worse.

The Thurston County Sheriff's Office said when the intruder didn’t leave, he started to come through the back door and attack the homeowner.

Detectives say the homeowner did his best to fend off the burglary suspect in his kitchen, using a piece of wood. When that wasn’t enough, he fired a single shot, hitting the intruder in the chest.

May 15....another local story not covered by national news...

Woman afraid boyfriend would cut her, shoots him five times, police say

Believing that her boyfriend was retrieving knives to cut her, a woman shot him Wednesday inside their south Fort Worth house, police said.

The woman shot the man five times, in his torso and his arm, Fort Worth police said. The man was in critical condition in the minutes after he was shot and was in surgery at John Peter Smith Hospital. Police did not release his name or age.

The woman was being interviewed by family violence unit detectives.

The violence erupted about 11 a.m. in the house near Clovermeadow and Shadymeadow Drives, police said.

The man made a threat to harm his girlfriend during a dispute, police said.

When the woman, whose name and age police also did not release, believed that her boyfriend went downstairs to get knives, she went upstairs and “grabbed the gun that they keep in the house,” police said.

May 19...another local story....

Tennessee Self defense: Police: Shooter Acted In Self defense Two People Dead :: Firearms Owners Against Crime

HIXSON, Tenn. - Chattanooga Police Department says no charges will be filed for the man who shot and killed two people Saturday night.

Officials say the shooter 25-year-old Cameron Denton appears to have acted in self defense.

Police say they arrived to 6700 block of Ardis Lane after reports of shooting

They found two people suffering from gunshot wounds.

Officials say 27-year-old Kirtus Thompson died on the scene and 57-year-old Douglas Patterson was transported to a local hospital where he later died.

The shooter was also transported to the hospital for treatment after suffering serious injuries.

The investigation is active at this time.

Chattanooga Police ask anyone with information regarding this incident to call the homicide tip line at 423-643-5100 or submit a tip via the CPD Mobile App. You can remain anonymous.

Wabash Trail homeowner opens fire on intruder in kitchen, two later arrested in burglary

They are all on the Gun Violence Archive. Out of the remaining 21k events last week you must be able to dredge up a few verified incidents.

Gun violence Archive only has gun criminals......

Again....17 actual studies by private and government research groups into the number of defensive gun use cases each year.....vs. you demanding I search local newspapers for shootings, when the majority of defensive uses of guns don't require anyone get shot, hence they don't make the news.....

GVA has more than you have. If there are 21k a week you should be able to produce something. Its not complicated.

Again.....crimes are reported on the news every single night....self defense with a gun has to actually result in an injury or death...when most self defense with a gun results in the thug running away, or surrendering......

Again....the actual research...notice the research done by the vaunted Centers for Disease Control, and also by the bill clinton Department of Justice...

A quick guide to the studies and the numbers.....the full lay out of what was studied by each study is in the links....

The name of the group doing the study, the year of the study, the number of defensive gun uses and if police and military defensive gun uses are included.....notice the bill clinton and obama defensive gun use research is highlighted.....

GunCite-Gun Control-How Often Are Guns Used in Self-Defense

GunCite Frequency of Defensive Gun Use in Previous Surveys

Field...1976....3,052,717 ( no cops, no military)

DMIa 1978...2,141,512 ( no cops, no military)

L.A. TIMES...1994...3,609,68 ( no cops, no military)

Kleck......1994...2.5 million ( no cops, no military)

CDC...1996-1998... 1.1 million averaged over those years.( no cops, no military)

Obama's CDC....2013....500,000--3million

--------------------


Bordua...1977...1,414,544

DMIb...1978...1,098,409 ( no cops, no military)

Hart...1981...1.797,461 ( no cops, no military)

Mauser...1990...1,487,342 ( no cops,no military)

Gallup...1993...1,621,377 ( no cops, no military)

DEPT. OF JUSTICE...1994...1.5 million ( the bill clinton study)

Journal of Quantitative Criminology--- 989,883 times per year."

(Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18])

Paper: "Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment." By David McDowall and others. Journal of Quantitative Criminology, March 2000. Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment - Springer


-------------------------------------------

Ohio...1982...771,043

Gallup...1991...777,152

Tarrance... 1994... 764,036 (no cops, no military)

Lawerence Southwich Jr. 400,000 fewer violent crimes and at least 800,000 violent crimes deterred..

 

[Tommy Tainant]

You still havent given any examples from last week. The Gun Violence Archive provides about 20 verified incidents. Do you have any advance on that ?

Since these are local stories and are rarely covered by national news.....

May 17....

Homeowner tried to defend property from burglar with stick. When that didn’t work, he used a gun

A man in Thurston County was forced to defend himself Friday when a homeless intruder broke into his home.

Police say the suspect trespassed onto the property and refused to leave after being told by the homeowner. That's when things took a turn for the worse.

The Thurston County Sheriff's Office said when the intruder didn’t leave, he started to come through the back door and attack the homeowner.

Detectives say the homeowner did his best to fend off the burglary suspect in his kitchen, using a piece of wood. When that wasn’t enough, he fired a single shot, hitting the intruder in the chest.

May 15....another local story not covered by national news...

Woman afraid boyfriend would cut her, shoots him five times, police say

Believing that her boyfriend was retrieving knives to cut her, a woman shot him Wednesday inside their south Fort Worth house, police said.

The woman shot the man five times, in his torso and his arm, Fort Worth police said. The man was in critical condition in the minutes after he was shot and was in surgery at John Peter Smith Hospital. Police did not release his name or age.

The woman was being interviewed by family violence unit detectives.

The violence erupted about 11 a.m. in the house near Clovermeadow and Shadymeadow Drives, police said.

The man made a threat to harm his girlfriend during a dispute, police said.

When the woman, whose name and age police also did not release, believed that her boyfriend went downstairs to get knives, she went upstairs and “grabbed the gun that they keep in the house,” police said.

May 19...another local story....

Tennessee Self defense: Police: Shooter Acted In Self defense Two People Dead :: Firearms Owners Against Crime

HIXSON, Tenn. - Chattanooga Police Department says no charges will be filed for the man who shot and killed two people Saturday night.

Officials say the shooter 25-year-old Cameron Denton appears to have acted in self defense.

Police say they arrived to 6700 block of Ardis Lane after reports of shooting

They found two people suffering from gunshot wounds.

Officials say 27-year-old Kirtus Thompson died on the scene and 57-year-old Douglas Patterson was transported to a local hospital where he later died.

The shooter was also transported to the hospital for treatment after suffering serious injuries.

The investigation is active at this time.

Chattanooga Police ask anyone with information regarding this incident to call the homicide tip line at 423-643-5100 or submit a tip via the CPD Mobile App. You can remain anonymous.

Wabash Trail homeowner opens fire on intruder in kitchen, two later arrested in burglary

They are all on the Gun Violence Archive. Out of the remaining 21k events last week you must be able to dredge up a few verified incidents.

Gun violence Archive only has gun criminals......

Again....17 actual studies by private and government research groups into the number of defensive gun use cases each year.....vs. you demanding I search local newspapers for shootings, when the majority of defensive uses of guns don't require anyone get shot, hence they don't make the news.....

GVA has more than you have. If there are 21k a week you should be able to produce something. Its not complicated.

Again.....crimes are reported on the news every single night....self defense with a gun has to actually result in an injury or death...when most self defense with a gun results in the thug running away, or surrendering......

Again....the actual research...notice the research done by the vaunted Centers for Disease Control, and also by the bill clinton Department of Justice...

A quick guide to the studies and the numbers.....the full lay out of what was studied by each study is in the links....

The name of the group doing the study, the year of the study, the number of defensive gun uses and if police and military defensive gun uses are included.....notice the bill clinton and obama defensive gun use research is highlighted.....

GunCite-Gun Control-How Often Are Guns Used in Self-Defense

GunCite Frequency of Defensive Gun Use in Previous Surveys

Field...1976....3,052,717 ( no cops, no military)

DMIa 1978...2,141,512 ( no cops, no military)

L.A. TIMES...1994...3,609,68 ( no cops, no military)

Kleck......1994...2.5 million ( no cops, no military)

CDC...1996-1998... 1.1 million averaged over those years.( no cops, no military)

Obama's CDC....2013....500,000--3million

--------------------


Bordua...1977...1,414,544

DMIb...1978...1,098,409 ( no cops, no military)

Hart...1981...1.797,461 ( no cops, no military)

Mauser...1990...1,487,342 ( no cops,no military)

Gallup...1993...1,621,377 ( no cops, no military)

DEPT. OF JUSTICE...1994...1.5 million ( the bill clinton study)

Journal of Quantitative Criminology--- 989,883 times per year."

(Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18])

Paper: "Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment." By David McDowall and others. Journal of Quantitative Criminology, March 2000. Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment - Springer


-------------------------------------------

Ohio...1982...771,043

Gallup...1991...777,152

Tarrance... 1994... 764,036 (no cops, no military)

Lawerence Southwich Jr. 400,000 fewer violent crimes and at least 800,000 violent crimes deterred..

And yet you cant produce any actual examples. Thats amazing.

 

[Rustic]

Since these are local stories and are rarely covered by national news.....

May 17....

Homeowner tried to defend property from burglar with stick. When that didn’t work, he used a gun

A man in Thurston County was forced to defend himself Friday when a homeless intruder broke into his home.

Police say the suspect trespassed onto the property and refused to leave after being told by the homeowner. That's when things took a turn for the worse.

The Thurston County Sheriff's Office said when the intruder didn’t leave, he started to come through the back door and attack the homeowner.

Detectives say the homeowner did his best to fend off the burglary suspect in his kitchen, using a piece of wood. When that wasn’t enough, he fired a single shot, hitting the intruder in the chest.

May 15....another local story not covered by national news...

Woman afraid boyfriend would cut her, shoots him five times, police say

Believing that her boyfriend was retrieving knives to cut her, a woman shot him Wednesday inside their south Fort Worth house, police said.

The woman shot the man five times, in his torso and his arm, Fort Worth police said. The man was in critical condition in the minutes after he was shot and was in surgery at John Peter Smith Hospital. Police did not release his name or age.

The woman was being interviewed by family violence unit detectives.

The violence erupted about 11 a.m. in the house near Clovermeadow and Shadymeadow Drives, police said.

The man made a threat to harm his girlfriend during a dispute, police said.

When the woman, whose name and age police also did not release, believed that her boyfriend went downstairs to get knives, she went upstairs and “grabbed the gun that they keep in the house,” police said.

May 19...another local story....

Tennessee Self defense: Police: Shooter Acted In Self defense Two People Dead :: Firearms Owners Against Crime

HIXSON, Tenn. - Chattanooga Police Department says no charges will be filed for the man who shot and killed two people Saturday night.

Officials say the shooter 25-year-old Cameron Denton appears to have acted in self defense.

Police say they arrived to 6700 block of Ardis Lane after reports of shooting

They found two people suffering from gunshot wounds.

Officials say 27-year-old Kirtus Thompson died on the scene and 57-year-old Douglas Patterson was transported to a local hospital where he later died.

The shooter was also transported to the hospital for treatment after suffering serious injuries.

The investigation is active at this time.

Chattanooga Police ask anyone with information regarding this incident to call the homicide tip line at 423-643-5100 or submit a tip via the CPD Mobile App. You can remain anonymous.

Wabash Trail homeowner opens fire on intruder in kitchen, two later arrested in burglary

They are all on the Gun Violence Archive. Out of the remaining 21k events last week you must be able to dredge up a few verified incidents.

Gun violence Archive only has gun criminals......

Again....17 actual studies by private and government research groups into the number of defensive gun use cases each year.....vs. you demanding I search local newspapers for shootings, when the majority of defensive uses of guns don't require anyone get shot, hence they don't make the news.....

GVA has more than you have. If there are 21k a week you should be able to produce something. Its not complicated.

Again.....crimes are reported on the news every single night....self defense with a gun has to actually result in an injury or death...when most self defense with a gun results in the thug running away, or surrendering......

Again....the actual research...notice the research done by the vaunted Centers for Disease Control, and also by the bill clinton Department of Justice...

A quick guide to the studies and the numbers.....the full lay out of what was studied by each study is in the links....

The name of the group doing the study, the year of the study, the number of defensive gun uses and if police and military defensive gun uses are included.....notice the bill clinton and obama defensive gun use research is highlighted.....

GunCite-Gun Control-How Often Are Guns Used in Self-Defense

GunCite Frequency of Defensive Gun Use in Previous Surveys

Field...1976....3,052,717 ( no cops, no military)

DMIa 1978...2,141,512 ( no cops, no military)

L.A. TIMES...1994...3,609,68 ( no cops, no military)

Kleck......1994...2.5 million ( no cops, no military)

CDC...1996-1998... 1.1 million averaged over those years.( no cops, no military)

Obama's CDC....2013....500,000--3million

--------------------


Bordua...1977...1,414,544

DMIb...1978...1,098,409 ( no cops, no military)

Hart...1981...1.797,461 ( no cops, no military)

Mauser...1990...1,487,342 ( no cops,no military)

Gallup...1993...1,621,377 ( no cops, no military)

DEPT. OF JUSTICE...1994...1.5 million ( the bill clinton study)

Journal of Quantitative Criminology--- 989,883 times per year."

(Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18])

Paper: "Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment." By David McDowall and others. Journal of Quantitative Criminology, March 2000. Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment - Springer


-------------------------------------------

Ohio...1982...771,043

Gallup...1991...777,152

Tarrance... 1994... 764,036 (no cops, no military)

Lawerence Southwich Jr. 400,000 fewer violent crimes and at least 800,000 violent crimes deterred..

And yet you cant produce any actual examples. Thats amazing.

Lol
Mind your own business you fat sack of shit

 

[2aguy]

Since these are local stories and are rarely covered by national news.....

May 17....

Homeowner tried to defend property from burglar with stick. When that didn’t work, he used a gun

A man in Thurston County was forced to defend himself Friday when a homeless intruder broke into his home.

Police say the suspect trespassed onto the property and refused to leave after being told by the homeowner. That's when things took a turn for the worse.

The Thurston County Sheriff's Office said when the intruder didn’t leave, he started to come through the back door and attack the homeowner.

Detectives say the homeowner did his best to fend off the burglary suspect in his kitchen, using a piece of wood. When that wasn’t enough, he fired a single shot, hitting the intruder in the chest.

May 15....another local story not covered by national news...

Woman afraid boyfriend would cut her, shoots him five times, police say

Believing that her boyfriend was retrieving knives to cut her, a woman shot him Wednesday inside their south Fort Worth house, police said.

The woman shot the man five times, in his torso and his arm, Fort Worth police said. The man was in critical condition in the minutes after he was shot and was in surgery at John Peter Smith Hospital. Police did not release his name or age.

The woman was being interviewed by family violence unit detectives.

The violence erupted about 11 a.m. in the house near Clovermeadow and Shadymeadow Drives, police said.

The man made a threat to harm his girlfriend during a dispute, police said.

When the woman, whose name and age police also did not release, believed that her boyfriend went downstairs to get knives, she went upstairs and “grabbed the gun that they keep in the house,” police said.

May 19...another local story....

Tennessee Self defense: Police: Shooter Acted In Self defense Two People Dead :: Firearms Owners Against Crime

HIXSON, Tenn. - Chattanooga Police Department says no charges will be filed for the man who shot and killed two people Saturday night.

Officials say the shooter 25-year-old Cameron Denton appears to have acted in self defense.

Police say they arrived to 6700 block of Ardis Lane after reports of shooting

They found two people suffering from gunshot wounds.

Officials say 27-year-old Kirtus Thompson died on the scene and 57-year-old Douglas Patterson was transported to a local hospital where he later died.

The shooter was also transported to the hospital for treatment after suffering serious injuries.

The investigation is active at this time.

Chattanooga Police ask anyone with information regarding this incident to call the homicide tip line at 423-643-5100 or submit a tip via the CPD Mobile App. You can remain anonymous.

Wabash Trail homeowner opens fire on intruder in kitchen, two later arrested in burglary

They are all on the Gun Violence Archive. Out of the remaining 21k events last week you must be able to dredge up a few verified incidents.

Gun violence Archive only has gun criminals......

Again....17 actual studies by private and government research groups into the number of defensive gun use cases each year.....vs. you demanding I search local newspapers for shootings, when the majority of defensive uses of guns don't require anyone get shot, hence they don't make the news.....

GVA has more than you have. If there are 21k a week you should be able to produce something. Its not complicated.

Again.....crimes are reported on the news every single night....self defense with a gun has to actually result in an injury or death...when most self defense with a gun results in the thug running away, or surrendering......

Again....the actual research...notice the research done by the vaunted Centers for Disease Control, and also by the bill clinton Department of Justice...

A quick guide to the studies and the numbers.....the full lay out of what was studied by each study is in the links....

The name of the group doing the study, the year of the study, the number of defensive gun uses and if police and military defensive gun uses are included.....notice the bill clinton and obama defensive gun use research is highlighted.....

GunCite-Gun Control-How Often Are Guns Used in Self-Defense

GunCite Frequency of Defensive Gun Use in Previous Surveys

Field...1976....3,052,717 ( no cops, no military)

DMIa 1978...2,141,512 ( no cops, no military)

L.A. TIMES...1994...3,609,68 ( no cops, no military)

Kleck......1994...2.5 million ( no cops, no military)

CDC...1996-1998... 1.1 million averaged over those years.( no cops, no military)

Obama's CDC....2013....500,000--3million

--------------------


Bordua...1977...1,414,544

DMIb...1978...1,098,409 ( no cops, no military)

Hart...1981...1.797,461 ( no cops, no military)

Mauser...1990...1,487,342 ( no cops,no military)

Gallup...1993...1,621,377 ( no cops, no military)

DEPT. OF JUSTICE...1994...1.5 million ( the bill clinton study)

Journal of Quantitative Criminology--- 989,883 times per year."

(Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18])

Paper: "Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment." By David McDowall and others. Journal of Quantitative Criminology, March 2000. Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment - Springer


-------------------------------------------

Ohio...1982...771,043

Gallup...1991...777,152

Tarrance... 1994... 764,036 (no cops, no military)

Lawerence Southwich Jr. 400,000 fewer violent crimes and at least 800,000 violent crimes deterred..

And yet you cant produce any actual examples. Thats amazing.

When someone actually has to shoot a criminal intent on rape, robbery and murder, they make the actual news.....when the thug is smart and runs away, it isn't news worthy in most places, you twit...that is the magic of a gun for self defense.....even the smallest woman can drive off multiple attackers without having to kill them.....something you guys will need to learn as your criminals become more and more aggressive.