Rightwingers really need to stop comparing the summer riots to the Jan 6th insurrection and here is why

[IM2]

ONLY 200 violent riots? How desperate are you?

How many flights would you board if you knew seven flights out of every 100 would crash around the country?

There were 2,300 non violent protests. You want to keep arguing about 200 because your racist narrative depends on it.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

NFBW wrote: We now know the identity of Person One. - - - Elmer Stewart Rhodes III — a one-time Army paratrooper, disbarred Yale lawyer, constitutionalist, gun enthusiast, and far-right media star — founded the group called the Oath Keepers in 2009. - - - We had interesting conversations regarding Person One last November. Person One made it to the top of today’s headlines:

The Founder Of The Oath Keepers Has Been Charged With Seditious Conspiracy​

The case against Rhodes and 10 others is the first sedition case brought in connection with the Jan. 6 attack on the US Capitol. By Ken Bensinger and Zoe Tillman Updated on January 13, 2022, at 8:27 p.m. ETPosted on January 13, 2022, at 2:11 p.m. ET​

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@Correll wrote: My understanding is that some people had plans ahead of time to use the demonstration as cover to start a violent confrontation. 21MAR07-POST-#1042

Correll wrote: Trump called for a demonstration to put political pressure on Congress. You saying "disrupt" is you lying. 21OCT16-POST#882

NFBW wrote: Per the above it is apparent that Correll and many RWNJ’s don’t get there were two separate “disruptive” plots to overturn the election on Jan6. One used violence, one did not. But both were intended to be disruptive of the peaceful transfer of power. 22JAN13-POST#802

Oldestyle wrote: Show me where in the FBI report it says that those extremist groups were planning to breach the Capital building, Faun! 21OCT29-POST#500

Faun wrote: “PERSON ONE continued, “I do want some Oath Keepers to stay on the outside... 21 OCT29-POST#523

Correll wrote: Outside of what? The crowd? The city? YOU made the claim, show me where anyone said shit about going INSIDE THE CAPITOL BUIDLING 21OCT29-POST#524

NFBW wrote: Elmer Stewart Rhodes is Person One planned for two months to attack the Capitol. On the day of the attack he stayed like a coward on the outside after organizing the seditious attack on the government and sending his recruited domestic white power stormtroopers to carry out his attack inside the Capitol on Jan6 22JAN13-POST#802

 

[armadei]

There were 2,300 non violent protests. You want to keep arguing about 200 because your racist narrative depends on it.

"There were 50 years where Hitler wasn't slaughtering Jews. You want to keep arguing about the 6 where he did because your narrative depends on it."

This is how stupid you sound.

 

[IM2]

"There were 50 years where Hitler wasn't slaughtering Jews. You want to keep arguing about the 6 where he did because your narrative depends on it."

This is how stupid you sound.

No, it's how stupid you sound. You want to hang on to a false racist narrative. There is no equivalence here. Your argument is a bale of hay.

 

[armadei]

That's what I thought.

You thought what exactly? That if I were a bonafide insurgent I'd actually be an idiot like yourself who would charge directly at the head of the snake?

Here's a free life lesson for you, cupcake: You don't target an enemy's strengths, you target their weaknesses.

 

[armadei]

Your argument is a bale of hay.

Such a simpleton....

 

[IM2]

Such a simpleton....

Yes you are.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Correll wrote: This is about Traditional Americans who are tired of being pissed on, by fucking assholes. 21JAN07-POST#224

NFBW wrote: If gun rights are the rights that protect all the rest of the rights for traditional Americans Correll what right protects the rights of non-traditional Americans? 22JAN14-POST#808

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

It was a peaceful protest....until it turned into a violent riot.

Most all the protests took place in the daytime.
Most of the riots took place at nighttime.

 

[DudleySmith]

The Resistance (American political movement) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

All the top Democrats signed on, including Hillary the proven traitor and criminal guilty of treason.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

trump is the greatest libs are terrified he is the enemy of communism

Yeah, Trump's ignorance and stupidity are pretty terrifying.

"Enemy of communism"?

The orange retard loves it.

March 3 2018
U.S. President Donald Trump praised Chinese President Xi Jinping Saturday after the ruling Communist party announced it was eliminating the two-term limit for the presidency, paving the way for Xi to serve indefinitely.

“He’s now president for life, president for life. And he’s great,” Trump said, according to audio of excerpts of Trump’s remarks at a closed-door fundraiser in Florida.
“And look, he was able to do that. I think it’s great. Maybe we’ll have to give that a shot someday,” Trump said to cheers and applause from supporters.

Trump praises a communist.
Trump's cult cheers a communist.

Congratulations to President Xi and the Chinese people on the 70th Anniversary of the People’s Republic of China!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 1, 2019

 

[Correll]

Isn't it fun catching them out in what they think are cleverly worded lies?

The underlying issue is, that they CAN'T be honest about who they are or what they want, because they are bad people with ill intent.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

There were 2,300 non violent protests. You want to keep arguing about 200 because your racist narrative depends on it.

The George Floyd protests were peaceful.....only 200 riots!!!

 

[whutTHEYsay]

– Stewart Rhodes, as quoted in “Primed by Trump, Militias Gear up for ‘Stolen’ US Election.” The Times, June 29, 2020“We’ll go undercover and look for people we think are committing voting fraud. We’re looking for indicators that they’ve got people who aren’t US citizens voting; then we can go and suppress that behaviour by letting it be known that we’re watching. We’ll videotape them and turn it over to law enforcement.”

Correll wrote: I'm happy to answer the question. Yes. Christian Americans are a huge part of Traditional America. 21MAR07-POST-#1002

NFBW wrote: As a cultural Christian and American patriot of high morals Correll and as part of traditional America yourself Correll , do you include Stewart Rhodes to be one very good example of your expectations for the way “traditional Americans” conduct themselves 22JAN14-POST#814

OhPleaseJustQuit wrote: Patriots will be fighting for their families, their homes, their communities and their country. 22JAN14-POST#017

NFBW wrote: Do you lean toward believing OhPleaseJustQuit that under Biden it means non- traditional Americans have power over the federal government, meaning there will be plans to impose martial law, seize Americans’ weapons, force those who resist into concentration camps and, ultimately, push the country into a one-world socialistic government known as the “New World Order.” ? 22JAN14-POST#814

NFBW wrote: And as Traditional Americans, one of you Christian, one of you not, do you agree with DJT that “There is an assault on Christianity.... There is an assault on everything traditional Americans stand for, and Trump needs to stay in power to stop the assault? 22JAN14-POST#814

Similarly, at a campaign stop at Oral Roberts University, Trump announced that “There is an assault on Christianity.... There is an assault on everything we stand for, and we’re going to stop the assault” (Justice and Berglund 2016). Later that year, on August 11 in a meeting with evangelical pastors in Florida, Trump claimed:You know that Christianity and everything we’re talking about today has had a very, very tough time. Very tough time…. We’re going to bring [Christianity] back because it’s a good thing. It’s a good thing. They treated you like it was a bad thing, but it’s a great thing. (C-Span 2016b)​

22JAN14-POST#814​

 

[Correll]

NFBW wrote: We now know the identity of Person One. - - - Elmer Stewart Rhodes III — a one-time Army paratrooper, disbarred Yale lawyer, constitutionalist, gun enthusiast, and far-right media star — founded the group called the Oath Keepers....

Oath Keepers? You were raving about the Proud Boys and how they are such "fascists", and blah, blah, blah.

Now, suddenly, when I challenge you to back up that shit, now you want to change the subject to a completely different group?


You are pathetic, Wally.

 

[Correll]

Correll wrote: This is about Traditional Americans who are tired of being pissed on, by fucking assholes. 21JAN07-POST#224

NFBW wrote: If gun rights are the rights that protect all the rest of the rights for traditional Americans Correll what right protects the rights of non-traditional Americans? 22JAN14-POST#808

Who said that it was limited to Traditional Americans? That seems to be a premise you came up with. Perhaps you should explain your premise, not me.

 

[Correll]

– Stewart Rhodes, as quoted in “Primed by Trump, Militias Gear up for ‘Stolen’ US Election.” The Times, June 29, 2020“We’ll go undercover and look for people we think are committing voting fraud. We’re looking for indicators that they’ve got people who aren’t US citizens voting; then we can go and suppress that behaviour by letting it be known that we’re watching. We’ll videotape them and turn it over to law enforcement.”

Correll wrote: I'm happy to answer the question. Yes. Christian Americans are a huge part of Traditional America. 21MAR07-POST-#1002

NFBW wrote: As a cultural Christian and American patriot of high morals Correll and as part of traditional America yourself Correll , do you include Stewart Rhodes to be one very good example of your expectations for the way “traditional Americans” conduct themselves 22JAN14-POST#814

....

I made a general statement. I was not thinking of any specific individuals. YOur question makes no sense.

 

[Hurricanelover]

Comparing the riots over the summer of 2020 to January 6th is a joke! The riots killed dozens of people, set into place policies that killed tens of thousands of more people and caused tens of billions in damages....January 6th was dumb but isn't in the slightest comparable...The goddamn riots also damaged the court house in portland and burnt down a church near the white house that is hundreds of years old and has great historical value.

 

[Correll]

Comparing the riots over the summer of 2020 to January 6th is a joke! The riots killed dozens of people, set into place policies that killed tens of thousands of more people and caused tens of billions in damages....January 6th was dumb but isn't in the slightest comparable...The goddamn riots also damaged the court house in portland and burnt down a church near the white house that is hundreds of years old and has great historical value.

The Church apparently was not destroyed. Other than that, everything you said was completely correct.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Correll wrote: Oath Keepers? 22JAN12-POST#643

NFBW wrote: There is no change of subject. I have written posts about all the fascists that attacked the Capitol for DJT. And that included the Oath Keepers. - To refresh your memory - see the following exchange from last October. It’s breaking news that Stewart Rhodes, the founder of the Oath Keepers , has been indicted for seditious conspiracy in the Jan6 attack on the Joint Session of Congress. The Proud Boys were involved with the Oath Keepers in that fascist militia attack. So why are you pissing and moaning about it now Correll. You cannot make a case that your traditional American rioters for TRUMP are not fascists. 22JAN14-POST#820

Correll wrote: Trump called for a demonstration to put political pressure on Congress. You saying "disrupt" is you lying. 21OCT16-POST#882

Faun wrote: We know some extremist groups had plans for that day. 21 OCT29-POST#514

NFBW wrote: But old wily Oldstyle figgerd he caught Faun in this huge lie (next para) 21NOV02-POST#765

Oldstyle wrote: Show me where in the FBI report it says that those extremist groups were planning to breach the Capital building, Faun! 21OCT29-POST#500

Faun wrote: “PERSON ONE continued, “I do want some Oath Keepers to stay on the outside... 21 OCT29-POST#523

Correll wrote: Outside of what? The crowd? The city? YOU made the claim, show me where anyone said shit about going INSIDE THE CAPITOL BUIDLING 21OCT29-POST#524

NFBW wrote: the Oath Keepers insurrectionists planned and conspired to corruptly obstruct, influence, and impede an official proceeding. The purpose of the conspiracy was to stop, delay, and hinder the Certification of the Electoral College vote. The insurrectionists could not stop, delay, and hinder the Certification of the Electoral College vote.from outside and if they all stayed outside there would be no plans ahead of time to use the demonstration as cover to start a violent confrontation. 21OCT29-POST#765

32. From at least as early as November 3, 2020, through January 6, 2021, in the District of Columbia and elsewhere, the defendants, THOMAS CALDWELL, DONOVAN CROWL, JESSICA WATKINS, SANDRA PARKER, BENNIE PARKER, GRAYDON YOUNG, LAURA STEELE, KELLY MEGGS, CONNIE MEGGS, KENNETH HARRELSON, ROBERTO MINUTA, JOSHUA JAMES, ,

JOSEPH HACKETT, JASON DOLAN, and WILLIAM ISAACS, did knowingly combine, conspire, confederate, and agree with each other and others known and unknown, to commit an offense against the United States, namely, to corruptly obstruct, influence, and impede an official proceeding, that is, the Certification of the Electoral College vote, in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 1512(c)(2)

https://context-cdn.washingtonpost..../ebc31ab9-738b-42c5-8a2b-086b0ae568d1.#page=1

Purpose of the Conspiracy

33. The purpose of the conspiracy was to stop, delay, and hinder the Certification of the Electoral College vote. 22JAN14-POST#820