Results of Today's (8/15/25) Summit

[EvilCat Breath]

Curious, your own link says that:

What did they say after the meeting?​

Both leaders spoke to the press after the sitdown but declined to take questions. Neither of them mentioned a ceasefire in Ukraine, which was Mr. Trump's main goal coming into the meeting.

Do you have some connection to the state dept. we don't know about?

A ceasefire has been taken off the table. Trump, quite rightly, recognized that neither party would abide by a ceasefire.

 

[airplanemechanic]

I loved it when Putin admitted there would have been no war had Trump won in 2020. Trump has been claiming that for 5 years, and Putin himself admitted he was right.

Had we had a strong leader in the white house, we'd have a million fewer dead in Asia right now.

Rigged elections have consequences.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

It started because a dictator thought he had an easy mark.

Bushwhacked

You must be referring to the Decider, Dumbo Dubya.

 

[Unkotare]

Slaves Freeing Those Who Don't Want to Be Freed

You're in the "Give in to our Deep State dictators" camp. Fraternity bullies, your heroes always pick fights with the competition because they're too smug, lazy, and mentally inferior to compete with it. That's why the English heiristocracy started World War One.

Here we go again. "College intimidates me!" "I hate rich people!" Same old broken record.

 

[luiza]

I loved it when Putin admitted there would have been no war had Trump won in 2020. Trump has been claiming that for 5 years, and Putin himself admitted he was right.

Had we had a strong leader in the white house, we'd have a million fewer dead in Asia right now.

Rigged elections have consequences.

But that is all complete BS .

Kyiv had been at war in Donbass since 2014 and by February '22 had built up -- with NATO help and boots on the ground , a force of at least 180 000 ready to invade .

Russia simply pre-empted NATO/Kyiv by a week .
That simple fact is ignored for obvious reasons

 

[konradv]

Slaves Freeing Those Who Don't Want to Be Freed

You're in the "Give in to our Deep State dictators" camp. Fraternity bullies, your heroes always pick fights with the competition because they're too smug, lazy, and mentally inferior to compete with it. That's why the English heiristocracy started World War One.

This isn't the History forum and doesn’t explain shilling for a dictator and wannabe dictator.

 

[konradv]

Bushwhacked

You must be referring to the Decider, Dumbo Dubya.

I’m talking about the current Dumbo, Donny Diapers.

 

[airplanemechanic]

But that is all complete BS .

Kyiv had been at war in Donbass since 2014 and by February '22 had built up -- with NATO help and boots on the ground , a force of at least 180 000 ready to invade .

Russia simply pre-empted NATO/Kyiv by a week .
That simple fact is ignored for obvious reasons

Are you saying Putin is lying?

They invaded Ukraine under Obama and under Biden. NOT under Trump. And Putin himself said the Ukraine war under Biden wouldn't have happened had we put a real president in the white house, Trump.

 

[luiza]

Are you saying Putin is lying?

They invaded Ukraine under Obama and under Biden. NOT under Trump. And Putin himself said the Ukraine war under Biden wouldn't have happened had we put a real president in the white house, Trump.

Just giving you hard facts as usual .

What Putin may, or may not have said at different times is irrelevant .
He is a Politician and Strategist and therefore uses and creates facts as is appropriate to the moment .
He is above all a Politician, not a talking dummy .

 

[Stuartbirdan2]

The nothingburger summit

 

[Stuartbirdan2]

Just giving you hard facts as usual .

What Putin may, or may not have said at different times is irrelevant .
He is a Politician and Strategist and therefore uses and creates facts as is appropriate to the moment .
He is above all a Politician, not a talking dummy .

Dispatches: Mass Grave Found in Eastern Ukraine

www.hrw.org

 

[braalian]

And Putin himself said the Ukraine war under Biden wouldn't have happened had we put a real president in the white house, Trump.

And yet, Trump has not been able to end the war. Why?

 

[luiza]

And yet, Trump has not been able to end the war. Why?

Come on

The three are buddies put together by Deep State to act out scripted Theatre .

All are Jews or heavily influenced by them ( Pooters ) , all backed by enormous wealth and linked to the fundamentalists Chabad .

True IQ is only about Pattern Recognition .

 

[konradv]

Come on

The three are buddies put together by Deep State to act out scripted Theatre .

All are Jews or heavily influenced by them ( Pooters ) , all backed by enormous wealth and linked to the fundamentalists Chabad .

True IQ is only about Pattern Recognition .

Your pattern has been recognized.

 

[Ringo]

Russia has “behind its back” the strongest argument against Ukraine's aspiration to join NATO:

The Declaration of State Sovereignty of Ukraine, adopted in 1990 and serving as the basis for recognizing its independence from the USSR, defined a neutral status without joining any military blocs and alliances. Inscribing the aspiration of NATO membership in Ukraine's constitution renders the declaration of sovereignty illegitimate.

Russia, as the legal successor of the USSR, can withdraw recognition of Ukraine's independence and return it to Russia without any SMO(special military operation). Apparently with this hint about the fate of Ukraine, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov wore a sweatshirt with the inscription of the USSR when he visited the United States for talks on the “Ukrainian case”.

 

[konradv]

Russia has “behind its back” the strongest argument against Ukraine's aspiration to join NATO:

The Declaration of State Sovereignty of Ukraine, adopted in 1990 and serving as the basis for recognizing its independence from the USSR, defined a neutral status without joining any military blocs and alliances. Inscribing the aspiration of NATO membership in Ukraine's constitution renders the declaration of sovereignty illegitimate.

Russia, as the legal successor of the USSR, can withdraw recognition of Ukraine's independence and return it to Russia without any SMO(special military operation). Apparently with this hint about the fate of Ukraine, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov wore a sweatshirt with the inscription of the USSR when he visited the United States for talks on the “Ukrainian case”.

That treaty was null and void, as soon as Russia invaded.

 

[Ringo]

That treaty was null and void, as soon as Russia invaded.

Good.

 

[Ringo]

UN estimates civilians killed in Ukraine to be 13,000 over 3 1/2 years In less than 2 years, every Agency says Israel has killed more than that just counting children in Gaza Congress invited Netanyahu and gave him a standing ovation, but says Putin is too evil to talk to

 

[Ringo]

De facto: Trump gave Putin permission to go to war. And Zelensky sent by way of USAIDa. “This is not America's war” was the gist of the meeting. As intended.

The poor liberal commentators who have been imagining all week that Trump would stop the war and preparing to cancel Trump for stopping it in the wrong way and on the wrong terms by not returning Crimea to Ukraine - are now confronted with the fact that Trump has graciously agreed to all of Zelensky's terms and has given Ukraine the full right to decide what happens to Ukraine.

He simply - how is that possible! - didn't want to make the U.S. the Magic Genie, which fulfills all the wishes of a small, corrupt failed state at the first word.

 

[struth]

What are you talking about? Biden was helping Ukraine, not throwing a democracy under the bus.

How is freezing defensive aid twice at Putin’s request helping Ukraine?