Restaurants are adding labor surcharges to help offset minimum wage increases

[AntonToo]

BUT BUT BUT Libtards laughed when Republicans said higher minimum wages will drive up food costs.

Restaurant diners are footing the bill for rising minimum wages.

In lieu of steep menu price increases, many independent and regional chain restaurants in states including Arizona, California, Colorado and New York are adding surcharges of 3% to 4% to help offset rising labor costs. Industry analysts expect the practice to become widespread as more cities and states increase minimum wages.

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“It’s the emerging new norm,” said Sharokina Shams, spokeswoman for the California Restaurant Association. She said California restaurants are adding surcharges as the state lifts the minimum wage every year until it reaches $15 an hour by 2023. It is currently at $10.50 an hour for employers with 26 or more workers.
Restaurants are adding labor surcharges to help offset minimum wage increases

Oh my, 3-4% price increase?

How will America survive such onslaught from decent paying jobs?

A $3 hamburger now costs $3.09

We need to enforce low wages to protect against a nine cent increase in the cost of a hamburger

/--- Making up numbers again. It's what Libs do best:
Study Showing 15-Dollar-an-Hour Fast-Food Wages Would Raise Prices by Only 4 Percent Is Very Wrong
Labor accounts for a quarter to a third of the average fast-food restaurant’s costs. Currently, wages in the fast-food industry run around $9 an hour. Going to $15 an hour means increasing pay by over 50 percent. Prices would have to rise by at least one-sixth (50 percent multiplied by one third) to cover the base-wage increases. Of course, those price increases would drive some customers away, so restaurants would need to raise prices again. But as a baseline, prices would have to rise by at least one-sixth. The Purdue study finds price increases an order of magnitude smaller. It does so by making a basic math error. The Purdue researchers got their data from the National Restaurant Association’s (NRA) 2014 operations report. The report surveys restaurants and shows how much the median restaurant spends on various expenses, such as payroll, food, marketing, etc. The Purdue researchers added those figures to derive the balance sheet of the typical fast-food restaurant. Mathematically, however, medians do not work that way. Average values will add to the overall sum, but medians typically do not. The preface of the NRA Operations Report emphasizes in highlighted text that researchers cannot add median values to get overall expenses. Nonetheless the Purdue researchers did exactly that.


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Dumbass, I'm not making anything up, I'm DIRECTLY QUOTING YOUR OP:

In lieu of steep menu price increases, many independent and regional chain restaurants in states including Arizona, California, Colorado and New York are adding surcharges of 3% to 4% to help offset rising labor costs.

 

[sealybobo]

But I see what you guys are doing. You didn't like those jobs paying TOO much. So lets say you sent $50 hr jobs overseas. The people you promised a better life will be happy if they come back at $25 hr because right now they're only making $10 at Walmart. You guys are brilliant! I get it now.

You don't know "what you guys think". You make up whatever fits your narrative. Conservatives think the free market decides pricing and wages best. Government imposition tries to artificially dictate economics expecting a trickle up effect. Add increasing regulations and you can kiss business goodbye, which we have been doing for a while now. No amount of negative consequences can deter the good liberal because you all make up the reality you want regardless of outcome.

That's just your bullshit right wing narrative. Sure "kiss business goodbye" when you let them move overseas. What you are doing is bending over and giving business all the tax breaks in the world. They pay no taxes. I know that is the ultimate goal. I'm ok with that. But if you think your taxes won't go up when their taxes go down, you need to take another accounting class my friend because your math doesn't add up. This is ultimately shifting the tax burden onto us. Or the debts going to double. Or both. Either way, you're insane.

A truly free market would open up the borders and let all the illegal cheap labor back in. If you are not for that then you are for a regulated market. You just don't know it.

Business did just fine for centuries paying taxes and following regulations (rules). Now we will try it your way. Can't wait to tell you I told you so when your way doesn't work. But even when it doesn't work you'll just blame Obama or Fanny Mack. LOL

Wrong on every point. It isn't a free market if trade is inequitable. We have the highest business tax in the world, the big boys can get around it and deal with all the legalities and regulations. You dismiss reality because you want to. Nor do you understand we are in a global market and not a post war America with little to no competition.

I do understand you are going to pit us against Mexican Indian and Chinese labor yes. Fortunately their standards of living are slowing rising so maybe one day it will be like doing business with Germany or Canada.

 

[Cellblock2429]

BUT BUT BUT Libtards laughed when Republicans said higher minimum wages will drive up food costs.

Restaurant diners are footing the bill for rising minimum wages.

In lieu of steep menu price increases, many independent and regional chain restaurants in states including Arizona, California, Colorado and New York are adding surcharges of 3% to 4% to help offset rising labor costs. Industry analysts expect the practice to become widespread as more cities and states increase minimum wages.

More on this...

Wendy's installing self-ordering kiosks in 1,000 restaurants
US retail sales rise in January, led by gas and restaurants
What does 'A Day Without a Woman' mean for restaurants?
“It’s the emerging new norm,” said Sharokina Shams, spokeswoman for the California Restaurant Association. She said California restaurants are adding surcharges as the state lifts the minimum wage every year until it reaches $15 an hour by 2023. It is currently at $10.50 an hour for employers with 26 or more workers.
Restaurants are adding labor surcharges to help offset minimum wage increases

Oh my, 3-4% price increase?

How will America survive such onslaught from decent paying jobs?

A $3 hamburger now costs $3.09

We need to enforce low wages to protect against a nine cent increase in the cost of a hamburger

/--- Making up numbers again. It's what Libs do best:
Study Showing 15-Dollar-an-Hour Fast-Food Wages Would Raise Prices by Only 4 Percent Is Very Wrong
Labor accounts for a quarter to a third of the average fast-food restaurant’s costs. Currently, wages in the fast-food industry run around $9 an hour. Going to $15 an hour means increasing pay by over 50 percent. Prices would have to rise by at least one-sixth (50 percent multiplied by one third) to cover the base-wage increases. Of course, those price increases would drive some customers away, so restaurants would need to raise prices again. But as a baseline, prices would have to rise by at least one-sixth. The Purdue study finds price increases an order of magnitude smaller. It does so by making a basic math error. The Purdue researchers got their data from the National Restaurant Association’s (NRA) 2014 operations report. The report surveys restaurants and shows how much the median restaurant spends on various expenses, such as payroll, food, marketing, etc. The Purdue researchers added those figures to derive the balance sheet of the typical fast-food restaurant. Mathematically, however, medians do not work that way. Average values will add to the overall sum, but medians typically do not. The preface of the NRA Operations Report emphasizes in highlighted text that researchers cannot add median values to get overall expenses. Nonetheless the Purdue researchers did exactly that.


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Dumbass, I'm not making anything up, I'm DIRECTLY QUOTING YOUR OP:

In lieu of steep menu price increases, many independent and regional chain restaurants in states including Arizona, California, Colorado and New York are adding surcharges of 3% to 4% to help offset rising labor costs.

/--- I was responding to the poster who said it only adds 9 cents to the cost of a $3 burger. It is actually much higher. My original post was about Libs who claimed restaurants wouldn't have to charge more for food with the Minimum Wage hike. Sorry it confusing for you. Why don't you join the Gardening and Landscaping board and discuss your petunias you're planting this spring.

 

[rightwinger]

BUT BUT BUT Libtards laughed when Republicans said higher minimum wages will drive up food costs.

Restaurant diners are footing the bill for rising minimum wages.

In lieu of steep menu price increases, many independent and regional chain restaurants in states including Arizona, California, Colorado and New York are adding surcharges of 3% to 4% to help offset rising labor costs. Industry analysts expect the practice to become widespread as more cities and states increase minimum wages.

More on this...

Wendy's installing self-ordering kiosks in 1,000 restaurants
US retail sales rise in January, led by gas and restaurants
What does 'A Day Without a Woman' mean for restaurants?
“It’s the emerging new norm,” said Sharokina Shams, spokeswoman for the California Restaurant Association. She said California restaurants are adding surcharges as the state lifts the minimum wage every year until it reaches $15 an hour by 2023. It is currently at $10.50 an hour for employers with 26 or more workers.
Restaurants are adding labor surcharges to help offset minimum wage increases

Oh my, 3-4% price increase?

How will America survive such onslaught from decent paying jobs?

A $3 hamburger now costs $3.09

We need to enforce low wages to protect against a nine cent increase in the cost of a hamburger

/--- Making up numbers again. It's what Libs do best:
Study Showing 15-Dollar-an-Hour Fast-Food Wages Would Raise Prices by Only 4 Percent Is Very Wrong
Labor accounts for a quarter to a third of the average fast-food restaurant’s costs. Currently, wages in the fast-food industry run around $9 an hour. Going to $15 an hour means increasing pay by over 50 percent. Prices would have to rise by at least one-sixth (50 percent multiplied by one third) to cover the base-wage increases. Of course, those price increases would drive some customers away, so restaurants would need to raise prices again. But as a baseline, prices would have to rise by at least one-sixth. The Purdue study finds price increases an order of magnitude smaller. It does so by making a basic math error. The Purdue researchers got their data from the National Restaurant Association’s (NRA) 2014 operations report. The report surveys restaurants and shows how much the median restaurant spends on various expenses, such as payroll, food, marketing, etc. The Purdue researchers added those figures to derive the balance sheet of the typical fast-food restaurant. Mathematically, however, medians do not work that way. Average values will add to the overall sum, but medians typically do not. The preface of the NRA Operations Report emphasizes in highlighted text that researchers cannot add median values to get overall expenses. Nonetheless the Purdue researchers did exactly that.


Read more at: Study Showing 15-Dollar-an-Hour Fast-Food Wages Would Raise Prices by Only 4 Percent Is Very Wrong

Dumbass, I'm not making anything up, I'm DIRECTLY QUOTING YOUR OP:

In lieu of steep menu price increases, many independent and regional chain restaurants in states including Arizona, California, Colorado and New York are adding surcharges of 3% to 4% to help offset rising labor costs.

/--- I was responding to the poster who said it only adds 9 cents to the cost of a $3 burger. It is actually much higher. My original post was about Libs who claimed restaurants wouldn't have to charge more for food with the Minimum Wage hike. Sorry it confusing for you. Why don't you join the Gardening and Landscaping board and discuss your petunias you're planting this spring.

What is a 3% increase on a $3 burger?

Wages have been frozen for eight years....why haven't the price of burgers dropped?

 

[Iceweasel]

But I see what you guys are doing. You didn't like those jobs paying TOO much. So lets say you sent $50 hr jobs overseas. The people you promised a better life will be happy if they come back at $25 hr because right now they're only making $10 at Walmart. You guys are brilliant! I get it now.

You don't know "what you guys think". You make up whatever fits your narrative. Conservatives think the free market decides pricing and wages best. Government imposition tries to artificially dictate economics expecting a trickle up effect. Add increasing regulations and you can kiss business goodbye, which we have been doing for a while now. No amount of negative consequences can deter the good liberal because you all make up the reality you want regardless of outcome.

That's just your bullshit right wing narrative. Sure "kiss business goodbye" when you let them move overseas. What you are doing is bending over and giving business all the tax breaks in the world. They pay no taxes. I know that is the ultimate goal. I'm ok with that. But if you think your taxes won't go up when their taxes go down, you need to take another accounting class my friend because your math doesn't add up. This is ultimately shifting the tax burden onto us. Or the debts going to double. Or both. Either way, you're insane.

A truly free market would open up the borders and let all the illegal cheap labor back in. If you are not for that then you are for a regulated market. You just don't know it.

Business did just fine for centuries paying taxes and following regulations (rules). Now we will try it your way. Can't wait to tell you I told you so when your way doesn't work. But even when it doesn't work you'll just blame Obama or Fanny Mack. LOL

Wrong on every point. It isn't a free market if trade is inequitable. We have the highest business tax in the world, the big boys can get around it and deal with all the legalities and regulations. You dismiss reality because you want to. Nor do you understand we are in a global market and not a post war America with little to no competition.

I do understand you are going to pit us against Mexican Indian and Chinese labor yes. Fortunately their standards of living are slowing rising so maybe one day it will be like doing business with Germany or Canada.

Last I heard those countries were on Earth and part of the global marketplace. Good job of ignoring the point though.

 

[boedicca]

This surcharge was So Predictable...and many of us did.

Other reactions to the increase in the MW are replacing staff with ROBOTS, and moving to self-service instead of table service.

All proving that the Real Minimum Wage is ZERO.

 

[Papageorgio]

I would hazard to guess that someone trying to raise a family on $20,000 a year needs additional assistance
Just as there are not 30 million "other jobs" out there, there are not 30 million small business opportunities out there

I would suggest that if you only make 20K a year that you put off having a family until you can afford one

Republican version of big government?

I wouldn't know I'm not a Republican

Who was the last Democrat you voted for?

Nobody on this board is a republican. No one voted for Romney or McCain, and very soon no one will take credit for voting for Trump

Long list of those that voted McCain, Romney and Trump, sorry you are so ignorant to facts.

 

[pwjohn]

BUT BUT BUT Libtards laughed when Republicans said higher minimum wages will drive up food costs.

Restaurant diners are footing the bill for rising minimum wages.

In lieu of steep menu price increases, many independent and regional chain restaurants in states including Arizona, California, Colorado and New York are adding surcharges of 3% to 4% to help offset rising labor costs. Industry analysts expect the practice to become widespread as more cities and states increase minimum wages.

More on this...

Wendy's installing self-ordering kiosks in 1,000 restaurants
US retail sales rise in January, led by gas and restaurants
What does 'A Day Without a Woman' mean for restaurants?
“It’s the emerging new norm,” said Sharokina Shams, spokeswoman for the California Restaurant Association. She said California restaurants are adding surcharges as the state lifts the minimum wage every year until it reaches $15 an hour by 2023. It is currently at $10.50 an hour for employers with 26 or more workers.
Restaurants are adding labor surcharges to help offset minimum wage increases

Competition will quickly blow that kind of bassakwards thinking out of the water.

What is backwards about covering your operating costs?

You fail to see the chickenshit nature of these people because you're no better than they are. God forbid somebody make a living besides you.

 

[Iceweasel]

BUT BUT BUT Libtards laughed when Republicans said higher minimum wages will drive up food costs.

Restaurant diners are footing the bill for rising minimum wages.

In lieu of steep menu price increases, many independent and regional chain restaurants in states including Arizona, California, Colorado and New York are adding surcharges of 3% to 4% to help offset rising labor costs. Industry analysts expect the practice to become widespread as more cities and states increase minimum wages.

More on this...

Wendy's installing self-ordering kiosks in 1,000 restaurants
US retail sales rise in January, led by gas and restaurants
What does 'A Day Without a Woman' mean for restaurants?
“It’s the emerging new norm,” said Sharokina Shams, spokeswoman for the California Restaurant Association. She said California restaurants are adding surcharges as the state lifts the minimum wage every year until it reaches $15 an hour by 2023. It is currently at $10.50 an hour for employers with 26 or more workers.
Restaurants are adding labor surcharges to help offset minimum wage increases

Competition will quickly blow that kind of bassakwards thinking out of the water.

What is backwards about covering your operating costs?

You fail to see the chickenshit nature of these people because you're no better than they are. God forbid somebody make a living besides you.

You didn't answer the question. If you aren't making enough money go start your own business.

 

[Rooster]

At what point was it decided that minimum wage needed to be a living wage? Since when is a minimum wage job expected to support a family of four?

I don't eat a lot of fast food. I tried to cut it out of my diet completely for the new year, but I've had it a couple times. There are certainly places which are more expensive than others. Burger King and Wendy's are spendy. I have no idea what their workers get paid here in Florida, but if they make their prices any higher they're going to start slipping into the "sit down restaurant" neighborhood.

When I look at the brain trust that makes up the fast food work force, it's stunning.

The person who did this is the same person who believes workers at McDonald's should be paid $15.00 and hour:

Until fast food workers can get orders right 100% of the time, they deserve nothing. It's not rocket science, yet following an order sheet, somehow, vexes them.

I'm open to a discussion regarding the raising of the minimum wage, but that discussion would have to include some hard, irrefutable facts as to why it would be a good thing and why the good things would outweigh the bad.

All while keeping the above photo in mind...

 

[ding]

BUT BUT BUT Libtards laughed when Republicans said higher minimum wages will drive up food costs.

Restaurant diners are footing the bill for rising minimum wages.

In lieu of steep menu price increases, many independent and regional chain restaurants in states including Arizona, California, Colorado and New York are adding surcharges of 3% to 4% to help offset rising labor costs. Industry analysts expect the practice to become widespread as more cities and states increase minimum wages.

More on this...

Wendy's installing self-ordering kiosks in 1,000 restaurants
US retail sales rise in January, led by gas and restaurants
What does 'A Day Without a Woman' mean for restaurants?
“It’s the emerging new norm,” said Sharokina Shams, spokeswoman for the California Restaurant Association. She said California restaurants are adding surcharges as the state lifts the minimum wage every year until it reaches $15 an hour by 2023. It is currently at $10.50 an hour for employers with 26 or more workers.
Restaurants are adding labor surcharges to help offset minimum wage increases

Yep and as the price of a product rises the demand for that product will fall. When you squeeze a balloon, it bulges out somewhere else.

I don't see the world stopping and deciding to quit...

Me either. I also don't see cause and effect stopping either.

Humans continue no matter who is running the functions of government..

Sure, so what? So does inflation.

 

[rightwinger]

This surcharge was So Predictable...and many of us did.

Other reactions to the increase in the MW are replacing staff with ROBOTS, and moving to self-service instead of table service.

All proving that the Real Minimum Wage is ZERO.

Minimum wage has been frozen for eight years
How did a frozen $7.25 wage cause a development of ROBOTS?

 

[boedicca]

This surcharge was So Predictable...and many of us did.

Other reactions to the increase in the MW are replacing staff with ROBOTS, and moving to self-service instead of table service.

All proving that the Real Minimum Wage is ZERO.

Minimum wage has been frozen for eight years
How did a frozen $7.25 wage cause a development of ROBOTS?

Do you live in a bubble? (That's a rhetorical quesiton).

Many states are jacking up the MW. Here in CA it's being ratcheted up to $15. The result is Robots, Surcharges, and Self-Serve...with fewer jobs.

 

[ding]

Sounds like you Republicans have changed all of the sudden. You talked so nicely to get those unemployed people to vote for your side. You said you'd bring good jobs back so they could find work.

Now you're talking like 2007 Republicans who said if you weren't working you're a loser and its your fault. Welcome back. I knew you didn't have a lot of respect for American workers.

I haven't heard the evil Republicans make your argument, but I don't watch political cartoon shows. Minimum wage jobs are the good jobs you think the evil Republicans meant? Of course any raises, artificial or not result in higher end prices.

I don't eat out so they can add $50 in fees to the tab. But the higher costs go the less the demand will be. Bottom line is if you open a business it should be up to you if you go out of business or not, not the do gooders in government.

The guy said people with college degrees would be his waiters.

These are exactly the people promised better jobs. All the unemployed people with degrees or experience but they can't find work in their field of study so they are forced to wait tables.

Yes, of course you don't remember your empty promises

All we need is to elect a republican and play trickle down economics to increase wages..

Or we could embrace progressive policies where they don't mind the poor being poorer as long as the rich are less rich.

A good example of our way would be Ford Motor. Made by highly paid workers who get paid a fair wage. I know you think they are paid too much but that's the Republican in you. You can't help yourself. You see people who have pensions and you are jealous because you don't have a pension yourself. Oh yea we all know you are rich but not everyone is as rich as you. Most of the USMB Republicans who agree with you are broke jealous losers who hate union workers making more than they do.

We didn't ruin the economy. That was a lie put out by Republicans. And your lie today really makes no sense. It completely contradicts Trumps talking points. You guys said highly paid American workers are why jobs went overseas. But now Trump says he's going to bring manufacturing jobs back so Americans can be highly paid again. Isn't that true? He said NAFTA was a bad deal. But you guys designed NAFTA so that companies could break their unions and move jobs overseas. Sure I'm oversimplifying this but this is all true. So you guys sent all the high paying jobs overseas and now promise to bring them back? You can see why we don't believe you, right?

But I see what you guys are doing. You didn't like those jobs paying TOO much. So lets say you sent $50 hr jobs overseas. The people you promised a better life will be happy if they come back at $25 hr because right now they're only making $10 at Walmart. You guys are brilliant! I get it now.

You don't know what I believe. I am happy to see people making good money. I want people to make good money. Who doesn't? It seems to me that maybe you are the one who is obsessed over people making too much money. Does you brother share his wealth with you? You should ask for more.

I do have a pension. A seven figure pension. Do you want some of it? I don't begrudge poor people. I begrudge jealous people. Maybe you should just take what you want instead of crying about it, how's that? Do you want to come and get it?

At any point in your life you are the sum of your choices. The more time you spend looking to blame politicians for your idiotic decisions, the more time you are wasting in fixing your situation. No one is coming to save you, not even your rich brother. You have to save yourself.

 

[ding]

Your logic is stunning.

You want someone to prepare a meal for you, you pay for the price of the preparation. If you can't afford it,

go to the grocery store.

Is that what you think this is about? Really?

What would it be about?

Managed markets, government interference with free markets, etc. It hasn't shown to work in the past. There will always be unintended consequences. It is unavoidable.

The free market is an abomination. Laissez-faire capitalism caused the labor movement, caused the socialist movement.

Give me a break. Could you have any more of an external locus of control?

 

[ding]

Sounds like you Republicans have changed all of the sudden. You talked so nicely to get those unemployed people to vote for your side. You said you'd bring good jobs back so they could find work.

Now you're talking like 2007 Republicans who said if you weren't working you're a loser and its your fault. Welcome back. I knew you didn't have a lot of respect for American workers.

I haven't heard the evil Republicans make your argument, but I don't watch political cartoon shows. Minimum wage jobs are the good jobs you think the evil Republicans meant? Of course any raises, artificial or not result in higher end prices.

I don't eat out so they can add $50 in fees to the tab. But the higher costs go the less the demand will be. Bottom line is if you open a business it should be up to you if you go out of business or not, not the do gooders in government.

The guy said people with college degrees would be his waiters.

These are exactly the people promised better jobs. All the unemployed people with degrees or experience but they can't find work in their field of study so they are forced to wait tables.

Yes, of course you don't remember your empty promises

All we need is to elect a republican and play trickle down economics to increase wages..

Or we could embrace progressive policies where they don't mind the poor being poorer as long as the rich are less rich.

You seemed to have done ok the last half century. What I think is that you are just greedy and want a few thousand more back on your taxes each year. And to get it you think us poor and middle class people should be paying a little more. Be honest. In fact, in order to fund the tax breaks republicans give to the rich Republicans always raise middle class taxes

lol, I don't mind paying my fair share but I do mind paying your fair share. I don't get any tax breaks. I probably pay more in taxes than you make. I think you need to resign yourself to the fact that no matter who is in office three things are going to happen; the government's "share" of your earnings will continue to increase ; the cost of everything will outstrip wages and you can kiss your social security good bye. Do you want the red pill or the blue pill?

 

[rightwinger]

This surcharge was So Predictable...and many of us did.

Other reactions to the increase in the MW are replacing staff with ROBOTS, and moving to self-service instead of table service.

All proving that the Real Minimum Wage is ZERO.

Minimum wage has been frozen for eight years
How did a frozen $7.25 wage cause a development of ROBOTS?

Do you live in a bubble? (That's a rhetorical quesiton).

Many states are jacking up the MW. Here in CA it's being ratcheted up to $15. The result is Robots, Surcharges, and Self-Serve...with fewer jobs.

Self Serve gas pumps came around in the 1970s when min wage was under $2.50
ATMs came around in the 80s when min wage was under $5

Automation comes because it is ready to come....not because minimum wage workers are paid too much

 

[rightwinger]

I haven't heard the evil Republicans make your argument, but I don't watch political cartoon shows. Minimum wage jobs are the good jobs you think the evil Republicans meant? Of course any raises, artificial or not result in higher end prices.

I don't eat out so they can add $50 in fees to the tab. But the higher costs go the less the demand will be. Bottom line is if you open a business it should be up to you if you go out of business or not, not the do gooders in government.

The guy said people with college degrees would be his waiters.

These are exactly the people promised better jobs. All the unemployed people with degrees or experience but they can't find work in their field of study so they are forced to wait tables.

Yes, of course you don't remember your empty promises

All we need is to elect a republican and play trickle down economics to increase wages..

Or we could embrace progressive policies where they don't mind the poor being poorer as long as the rich are less rich.

A good example of our way would be Ford Motor. Made by highly paid workers who get paid a fair wage. I know you think they are paid too much but that's the Republican in you. You can't help yourself. You see people who have pensions and you are jealous because you don't have a pension yourself. Oh yea we all know you are rich but not everyone is as rich as you. Most of the USMB Republicans who agree with you are broke jealous losers who hate union workers making more than they do.

We didn't ruin the economy. That was a lie put out by Republicans. And your lie today really makes no sense. It completely contradicts Trumps talking points. You guys said highly paid American workers are why jobs went overseas. But now Trump says he's going to bring manufacturing jobs back so Americans can be highly paid again. Isn't that true? He said NAFTA was a bad deal. But you guys designed NAFTA so that companies could break their unions and move jobs overseas. Sure I'm oversimplifying this but this is all true. So you guys sent all the high paying jobs overseas and now promise to bring them back? You can see why we don't believe you, right?

But I see what you guys are doing. You didn't like those jobs paying TOO much. So lets say you sent $50 hr jobs overseas. The people you promised a better life will be happy if they come back at $25 hr because right now they're only making $10 at Walmart. You guys are brilliant! I get it now.

You don't know what I believe. I am happy to see people making good money. I want people to make good money. Who doesn't? It seems to me that maybe you are the one who is obsessed over people making too much money. Does you brother share his wealth with you? You should ask for more.

I do have a pension. A seven figure pension. Do you want some of it? I don't begrudge poor people. I begrudge jealous people. Maybe you should just take what you want instead of crying about it, how's that? Do you want to come and get it?

At any point in your life you are the sum of your choices. The more time you spend looking to blame politicians for your idiotic decisions, the more time you are wasting in fixing your situation. No one is coming to save you, not even your rich brother. You have to save yourself.

At any point in your life you are the sum of your choices. The more time you spend looking to blame politicians for your idiotic decisions

For the most part you are right
But hundreds of thousands of construction workers, electricians, plumbers lost their jobs when the housing market went bust due to rampant speculation by the financial wizards

 

[Wry Catcher]

BUT BUT BUT Libtards laughed when Republicans said higher minimum wages will drive up food costs.

Restaurant diners are footing the bill for rising minimum wages.

In lieu of steep menu price increases, many independent and regional chain restaurants in states including Arizona, California, Colorado and New York are adding surcharges of 3% to 4% to help offset rising labor costs. Industry analysts expect the practice to become widespread as more cities and states increase minimum wages.

More on this...

Wendy's installing self-ordering kiosks in 1,000 restaurants
US retail sales rise in January, led by gas and restaurants
What does 'A Day Without a Woman' mean for restaurants?
“It’s the emerging new norm,” said Sharokina Shams, spokeswoman for the California Restaurant Association. She said California restaurants are adding surcharges as the state lifts the minimum wage every year until it reaches $15 an hour by 2023. It is currently at $10.50 an hour for employers with 26 or more workers.
Restaurants are adding labor surcharges to help offset minimum wage increases

Your post is that of an opinion, and is not based on fact. Food costs have been effected by climate change - drought, flooding, high heat - and technology is replacing human labor in restaurants and many other forms of commerce once dependent on labor.

It's why President Obama and HRC spoke about expanding higher education in Jr. Colleges for training in the new technologies and retraining of workers displaced by technology.

The only thing done by the R's thus far is to try to repeal the PPACA and spend time arguing about how to replace it.

 

[boedicca]

This surcharge was So Predictable...and many of us did.

Other reactions to the increase in the MW are replacing staff with ROBOTS, and moving to self-service instead of table service.

All proving that the Real Minimum Wage is ZERO.

Minimum wage has been frozen for eight years
How did a frozen $7.25 wage cause a development of ROBOTS?

Do you live in a bubble? (That's a rhetorical quesiton).

Many states are jacking up the MW. Here in CA it's being ratcheted up to $15. The result is Robots, Surcharges, and Self-Serve...with fewer jobs.

Self Serve gas pumps came around in the 1970s when min wage was under $2.50
ATMs came around in the 80s when min wage was under $5

Automation comes because it is ready to come....not because minimum wage workers are paid too much

Automation comes because it reduces costs. In the !970s, we were in the throes of the OPEC oil shock, hence a lot of efforts to reduce labor expenses. ATMs were put in place to reduce labor costs in banking.

Supply vs. Demand - ever heard of it? When labor is more expensive than machines, then machines will substitute for labor.