Republicans - Specifically Speaker Mike Johnson - are Doing a Poor Job of Explaining What Democrats Want in Their CR

[progressive hunter]

Wrong. Republicans have done everything they could to “cook th funding” and make it more expensive

oh sure the dems had nothing to do with it,,
even though they wrote the damn thing,,

 

[Lesh]

oh sure the dems had nothing to do with it,,
even though they wrote the damn thing,,

Republicans have been trying to get rid of it or undermine it from the beginning

 

[progressive hunter]

Republicans have been trying to get rid of it or undermine it from the beginning

it would help if your claims had some proof with them,,

 

[progressive hunter]

 

[Eman623]

Wrong. Republicans have done everything they could to “cook th funding” and make it more expensive

Prove it. And remind me which party decide to start handing out ACA subsidies and Medi-Cal to illegals?

 

[schmidlap]

Completely agree. I don't know why republicans aren't explaining how defining illegals is being manipulate by democrats.

The shutdown has nothing to do with illegal aliens.
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It is about Trump depriving American citizens of their healthcare coverage, and Republicans have begun to admit it.

Obamacare And Medicaid Popularity Hit All-Time High​

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) signaled a willingness to negotiate with Democrats on their health care demands, breaking with her party on an issue at the core of the government shutdown standoff.​

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In a lengthy post on the social platform X, Greene said she’s “absolutely disgusted” that health insurance premiums could double if the Affordable Care Act (ACA) tax credits expire, even as she stressed her strong opposition to the Obama-era legislation and to health insurance in general.​

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5542078-greene-breaks-republican-health-care/​

"... But I’m going to go against everyone on this issue because when the tax credits expire this year my own adult children’s insurance premiums for 2026 are going to DOUBLE, along with all the wonderful families and hard-working people in my district."

 

[Seymour Flops]

Why is Johnson having a hard time?

Because he’s on the wrong side of this

78% of Dems and FIFTY SEVEN per cent of MAGA types agree with the Dems

When will Republicans learn that people want affordable healthcare?

Show me the poll questions that elicited that claim. I'd be especially interested in knowing how they determine that a poll respondant was a "MAGA type."

If you don't know, and are only going off of a headline, you should reflect on your credulousness.

Americans - particularly MAGA types, eople don't want to pay for the health care of people who crossed the border illegally and were given TPS or parole en masse by the Autopen Administration.

That's is what Johnson is not getting across.

 

[schmidlap]

Show me the poll questions that elicited that claim. I'd be especially interested in knowing how they determine that a poll respondant was a "MAGA type."

If you don't know, and are only going off of a headline, you should reflect on your credulousness.

Americans - particularly MAGA types, eople don't want to pay for the health care of people who crossed the border illegally and were given TPS or parole en masse by the Autopen Administration.

That's is what Johnson is not getting across.

The lies about covering illegal aliens have been exposed, and Marjorie Taylor Greene has articulated the actual issue:

In a lengthy post on the social platform X, Greene said she’s “absolutely disgusted” that health insurance premiums could double if the Affordable Care Act (ACA) tax credits expire, even as she stressed her strong opposition to the Obama-era legislation and to health insurance in general.​

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5542078-greene-breaks-republican-health-care/​

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"... But I’m going to go against everyone on this issue because when the tax credits expire this year my own adult children’s insurance premiums for 2026 are going to DOUBLE, along with all the wonderful families and hard-working people in my district."​

 

[EMH]

Republicans have been trying to get rid of it or undermine it from the beginning

And when Paul Ryan had the chance, she refused, and that's one of the reasons why she sits on the Fox News Board of Directors...

 

[Seymour Flops]

The lies about covering illegal aliens have been exposed,

The ACA credits are available to people who crossed the border illegally. That is no lie.

and Marjorie Taylor Greene has articulated the actual issue:

In a lengthy post on the social platform X, Greene said she’s “absolutely disgusted” that health insurance premiums could double if the Affordable Care Act (ACA) tax credits expire, even as she stressed her strong opposition to the Obama-era legislation and to health insurance in general.​

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5542078-greene-breaks-republican-health-care/​

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"... But I’m going to go against everyone on this issue because when the tax credits expire this year my own adult children’s insurance premiums for 2026 are going to DOUBLE, along with all the wonderful families and hard-working people in my district."​

She's wrong and so are you.

If not, go on my other thread and show us your notice that your health insurance has skyrocketted to the point that you can no longer afford it.

 

[berg80]

Democrats and Republicans define "Illegal allien" differently, and they and their media are depicting those differing definitions as Republicans lying.

Dems want to restore taxfunded health benefits to illegals who got assylum, or parole, or Temporary Protective Status when they were being granted en masse by the Autopen Administration.

In the minds of Democrats - and their media - those people are NOT illegal aliens. To Speaker Johnson, they are.

If you are a person who is lawfully present in the US with an immigration status qualifying you to receive Medicaid, you are not an illegal alien. Hence, Dem's do not refer to them as illegal aliens because they are not.

Qualified people with legal status have been able to receive Medicaid since the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act passed in 1996.

Why are Repubs like Mike Johnson lying about these facts? Because they need a rationale for having passed a bill the CBO says will...........

AI Overview

As of July 2025, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) projected that the "One Big Beautiful Bill Act" would cause 10 million people to become uninsured by 2034. This was a final score for the legislation, which was enacted in July 2025.

Deficit projections

• Congressional Budget Office (CBO): Estimated in July 2025 that the bill will increase the primary deficit by $2.4 trillion over 10 years and add approximately $3.4 trillion to the national debt when including interest payments.
• Bipartisan Policy Center (BPC): Calculated the total 10-year cost at over $4.1 trillion when accounting for additional interest owed on the debt. The BPC notes that if temporary provisions become permanent, the cost could exceed $5 trillion.

 

[Seymour Flops]

If you are a person who is lawfully present in the US with an immigration status qualifying you to receive Medicaid, you are not an illegal alien. Hence, Dem's do not refer to them as illegal aliens because they are not.

If they entered the country illegally, and were not made to return before being admitted legally, they are an illegal alien, even if they were "given legal status" as part of the mass illegal immigration the Autopen Administration encouraged.

Qualified people with legal status have been able to receive Medicaid since the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act passed in 1996.

Why are Repubs like Mike Johnson lying about these facts? Because they need a rationale for having passed a bill the CBO says will...........

AI Overview

As of July 2025, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) projected that the "One Big Beautiful Bill Act" would cause 10 million people to become uninsured by 2034. This was a final score for the legislation, which was enacted in July 2025.

Deficit projections

• Congressional Budget Office (CBO): Estimated in July 2025 that the bill will increase the primary deficit by $2.4 trillion over 10 years and add approximately $3.4 trillion to the national debt when including interest payments.
• Bipartisan Policy Center (BPC): Calculated the total 10-year cost at over $4.1 trillion when accounting for additional interest owed on the debt. The BPC notes that if temporary provisions become permanent, the cost could exceed $5 trillion.

AI makes me laugh.

Why did the Democrats make the COVID era increases in subsidies temporary, if they wanted them to be permanent?

 

[Hafar1014]

Democrats and Republicans define "Illegal allien" differently, and they and their media are depicting those differing definitions as Republicans lying.

Dems want to restore taxfunded health benefits to illegals who got assylum, or parole, or Temporary Protective Status when they were being granted en masse by the Autopen Administration.

In the minds of Democrats - and their media - those people are NOT illegal aliens. To Speaker Johnson, they are.

That difference in definitions allows the media to accuse him of lying and cite the federal law prohibiting "illegal aliens" from getting federal benefits.

Johnson needs to stop saying "illegal alien," and start saying "aliens granted mass assylum, often after having illegally entered the U.S." That would sell.

Here at his press conference today he says at 6

"Why are we saying they want to return, restore taxpayer funded benefits to illegal aliens? Because that's what they did."



Then he directs Americans to page 57 of the Democrat proposal, which is on his speaker.gov website.

Few voters are going to go to look at that document, compare it to the BBB and see what the Dems want to repeal from it.

I'll do the homework. This is Schumer's proposed CR:

https://www.appropriations.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/fy26_democratic_continuing_resolution_text.pdf

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Here is that would take out of out of BBB:

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Most Americans do not want to see their tax dollars used to pay for the healthcare of such aliens, even if the previous administrataion granted them "legal status."

Democrats are all in on keeping illegals in the country and giving them as many benefits as possible. They wan they included in the census and then voters for them. Everything they do is to support illegals.

 

[sparky]

what part of "an alien lawfully admitted' is confusing here?.......~S~

 

[SeaMajor7]

Democrats are all in on keeping illegals in the country and giving them as many benefits as possible. They wan they included in the census and then voters for them. Everything they do is to support illegals.

All this is completely OBVIOUS.
Not sure why the OP thinks it's a mystery that needs to be explained.

 

[citygator]

Non-citizens who are here legally are barely over 5% of the Medicaid recipients. 90% of people who are going to lose their Medicaid are US citizens. This is just a distraction from the 12 Million US citizens losing their coverage.

The fact that you morons are so easily distracted by xenophobia is awesome. Its why it is so easy to control you. Hate and fear is a breeze to use.

 

[22lcidw]

The shutdown has nothing to do with illegal aliens.
,
It is about Trump depriving American citizens of their healthcare coverage, and Republicans have begun to admit it.

Obamacare And Medicaid Popularity Hit All-Time High​

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) signaled a willingness to negotiate with Democrats on their health care demands, breaking with her party on an issue at the core of the government shutdown standoff.​

​

In a lengthy post on the social platform X, Greene said she’s “absolutely disgusted” that health insurance premiums could double if the Affordable Care Act (ACA) tax credits expire, even as she stressed her strong opposition to the Obama-era legislation and to health insurance in general.​

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5542078-greene-breaks-republican-health-care/​

"... But I’m going to go against everyone on this issue because when the tax credits expire this year my own adult children’s insurance premiums for 2026 are going to DOUBLE, along with all the wonderful families and hard-working people in my district."

So, what if the ACA was never enacted in the first place? Medicine became a business decades ago. We must make it cheaper at the source. Instead, we subsidize the potential patients. Lawyers rule the industry, and we do have some inept medical personnel.

 

[Hafar1014]

So, what if the ACA was never enacted in the first place? Medicine became a business decades ago. We must make it cheaper at the source. Instead, we subsidize the potential patients. Lawyers rule the industry, and we do have some inept medical personnel.

It has everything to do with illegals and if w democrat policy we look at every policy ist to keep illegals in the country out of jail showered with benefits

 

[berg80]

If they entered the country illegally, and were not made to return before being admitted legally, they are an illegal alien, even if they were "given legal status" as part of the mass illegal immigration the Autopen Administration encouraged.

Your answer perfectly illustrates the futility of trying to have a rational, fact based discussion with a trumple. It frequently becomes pointless as trumples, like the orange piece of shit from whom their name is derived, will not stipulate to the facts.

5 Key Facts About Immigrants and Medicaid | KFF

Confusion persists about immigrants’ eligibility for federal programs, with about half or more of U.S. adults and immigrants adults saying they are unsure or incorrectly believe that most immigrants to the U.S. are eligible to enroll in federal health insurance programs, including Medicaid, as...

www.kff.org

 

[Hafar1014]

Your answer perfectly illustrates the futility of trying to have a rational, fact based discussion with a trumple. It frequently becomes pointless as trumples, like the orange piece of shit from whom their name is derived, will not stipulate to the facts.

5 Key Facts About Immigrants and Medicaid | KFF

Confusion persists about immigrants’ eligibility for federal programs, with about half or more of U.S. adults and immigrants adults saying they are unsure or incorrectly believe that most immigrants to the U.S. are eligible to enroll in federal health insurance programs, including Medicaid, as...

www.kff.org

States pay for the illegals and the federal government reimburses them so they can claim they dont make direct payments. Everything democrats do is to keep illegals in the country. so they can be counted in the 2030 census. Thats not going to happen