Republicans fail to make any rational argument why society must force full term gestation on all women. Their failed arguments are examined here:

[TruthNotBS]

History of slavery in the Muslim world - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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Learn What Role Islam Played in Slavery in Africa

When Africans talk of slavery they inevitably mean the trans-Atlantic trade of enslaved people. Is this a true representation of the practice?

www.thoughtco.com

That's the past, and Jews also had their hand in the African slave trade. What the hell does that have to do with Palestine? You're so dishonest and full of shit.

 

[HeyNorm]

A zygote, embryo, or undeveloped fetus, early in the woman's pregnancy isn't equivalent to a 6, 7, or 8-month fetus, much less a newborn baby. I'm not for late-term abortions, unless it's to save the life of the mother or avoid serious medical complications. Otherwise, there should be a limit to when a woman can legally abort her pregnancy.

What's pathetic, is how "pro-lifers" claim to care so much about fetuses in the wombs of strangers, while completely disregarding the needs of single mothers who are trying to raise children all by themselves. If you're going to force a woman by government authority, to remain pregnant, then you better have the infrastructure in place to meet her needs. You don't have that, you just flip her the finger and tell her to go get a job, even when she's unable to, due to her pregnancy or lack of resources.

If the pro-lifers actually cared about other people's babies, they wouldn't be defunding social programs that help single mothers raise their children. Food stamps, rental assistance, Medicaid, child daycare, school lunch programs, afterschool programs, job training for single mothers, educational grants..etc. You conservative Republicans are always voting against such programs, pretending that single mothers don't need them and that leads to this:

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You claim to be pro-life, are the above examples of unwanted pregnancies and poverty, "pro-life"? More like pro-death.

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You’re a very odd person. So if a 6 month gestate fetus is due protection, what is the major difference between a 6 and 5.5 month gestated fetus? And, do all fetuses develop exactly the same?

 

[Slyhunter]

There are only 8 billion human beings on Earth, so your "hundreds of billions" figure is wrong. The Christians and Muslims of the holy land have every right to be there and they should be treated equally before the law as every Jew. Unfortunately, Jews are unable to do that, so they should just get kicked out of the land and go back to the countries where they came from. As I said, genetically, the indigenous people of the holy land are the Christian and Muslim Palestinians, not the Ashkenazi Jews from Poland and New Jersey.

The Jewish sites were there first.

 

[Slyhunter]

That's the past, and Jews also had their hand in the African slave trade. What the hell does that have to do with Palestine? You're so dishonest and full of shit.

No it is the present. They are not primarily in control, any longer, but they do control regions where they are still practicing slavery.

 

[TruthNotBS]

We already have Capitalism where everyone needs to work to get room and board paid for. Welfare and other governmental handouts screws that up though.

The problem with capitalism is that it doesn't work without government intervention. Capitalism gets bailed out regularly by the government every few years, to avoid its collapse. It also creates gross inequality, hence without a robust social safety net, society suffers and eventually collapses. Moreover, we're now entering the age of advanced automation, and that implies the end of capitalism.

 

[Slyhunter]

The problem with capitalism is that it doesn't work without government intervention. Capitalism gets bailed out regularly by the government every few years, to avoid its collapse. It also creates gross inequality, hence without a robust social safety net, society suffers and eventually collapses. Moreover, we're now entering the age of advanced automation, and that implies the end of capitalism.

Forced equality is Communism, or Fascism.

 

[TruthNotBS]

The Jewish sites were there first.

Jewish sites, Christian sites, Muslim sites, Pagan sites before the Jewish sites..all of that is irrelevant. Christians and Muslims have been living there for centuries and Jews from Europe and Brooklyn don't have the right to arrive and commit crimes against humanity to take over the land.

 

[rampart]

This thread is a DING. Abortion is a state issue. The End.

abortion is, has always been, and will remain an individual decision for the women who can afford to travel. your dreams of tracing menstruation and restricting the travel of females will not end well. for you.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Forced equality is Communism, or Fascism.

Equality before the means of production and nothing else. Everyone owns the means of production, it's the people's commonwealth. Advanced automation and AI make socialism inevitable.

 

[Mac-7]

If you want to believe a zygote, embryo or half-brained fetus, is a human being with all of the same rights as the woman who is carrying them, believe that. Fortunately, most people have enough sense not to equate a mere zygote, embryo or undeveloped fetus as a human person or being. It's a potential human being if allowed to develop drawing resources from the uterus of a woman (an actual human being). Her needs and interests should always take precedence over what is attached to her uterus, especially early in pregnancy. You conservatives really have no moral high ground upon which to stand and judge pro-choice women when you're defunding government social programs that help single mothers raise their children. You want to force women to give birth without supporting the infrastructure to help them raise those children. That's wrong.

You are mixing legal rights with biology and morality

Physically the fetus is a human being

Its not a pony, or s chick that magically morphs into a person at birth

There is no way to spin it otherwise

Society seeks to protect innocent human life whether it be a store clerk at the 7-11 or an unborn child

The principle is the same

 

[Slyhunter]

Jewish sites, Christian sites, Muslim sites, Pagan sites before the Jewish sites..all of that is irrelevant. Christians and Muslims have been living there for centuries and Jews from Europe and Brooklyn don't have the right to arrive and commit crimes against humanity to take over the land.

I disagree, but 1948, 67, and 2023, shows then Israelites can hold their land with force and that is 90% of ownership. You guys suck. You keep trying and failing and then run into your hidey holes expecting Israels reluctance to kill innocents to save your asses.

 

[Slyhunter]

abortion is, has always been, and will remain an individual decision for the women who can afford to travel. your dreams of tracing menstruation and restricting the travel of females will not end well. for you.

Wrong.

 

[Slyhunter]

Equality before the means of production and nothing else. Everyone owns the means of production, it's the people's commonwealth.

I do believe in equal opportunity, not equal results. Some folks are too stupid to exist, I mean be gainfully employed.

Advanced automation and AI make socialism inevitable.

I think you are probably correct there, until we start colonizing planets, that is.

 

[jc456]

You're an idiot, you don't know who I am. You're so dumb.

he's so dumb yet you think he knows what you've done for the country? how odd a statement to make. Sounds like you're the idiot actually. That's called irony!

 

[jc456]

You're just stupid, with your lazy, dumb arguments. First of all, Hamas is a militant resistance movement against an illegal colonialist, foreign occupation. Palestinian Christians and Muslims are being occupied, dehumanized, brutalized, and slaughtered by Zionist Jews from Poland and Crown Heights Brooklyn, NYC. If anyone is using human shields, it's the Israelis, not the Palestinians.

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So **** you with your bullshit, about Hamas using "human shields", it's your beloved genocidal Israelis who use human shields. The Palestinian "A-rabs" have a right to defend themselves against racist Jewish Zionists. You pretend to care about zygotes, embryos, and half-brained fetuses, in the wombs of strangers you don't give a shit about, but do this:

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For dead Palestinian "A-rab" babies, because you don't care about them. Those "sand n$%grs" aren't human for you, because they're the "children of Ishmael", the supposed "cursed one", left in the desert with his slave mother. You American Zionist Christians are disgusting and stupid. Dumb hypocrites. Crying about fetuses in other people's wombs, while shrugging your shoulders over the genocide in Gaza that has killed tens of thousands of children. **** you, you Zionist fascist piece of shit.

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so why does hamas have hostages still? You don't think that's hiding out? weird shit you follow jack

 

[jc456]

Infant deaths rose nationwide following overturn of Roe v. Wade, study finds

Echoing findings from previous research, most excess deaths occurred in infants with congenital abnormalities

www.salon.com

As of this writing, 20 states have banned abortion or passed legislation that bans abortions within early gestational limits, and the majority of these states do not have exemptions for fetal anomalies. This pushes some pregnant people to give birth to babies with congenital anomalies and watch them die just after birth, when they may have elected for an abortion before to avoid such a traumatic experience.



Of course each fetus is unique. The Truth is they are not separate unique human beings until they are born.

and?

 

[jc456]

I do believe in equal opportunity, not equal results. Some folks are too stupid to exist, I mean be gainfully employed.

I think you are probably correct there, until we start colonizing planets, that is.

he thinks everyone has the same skill set as Michael Jordan. So he wouldn't pay michael but 15.00 an hour.

 

[jc456]

Haaretz Israel's most important newspaper and the New York Times isn't Al Jazeera, you idiot. Members of the Israeli government admitting to this is Al Jazeera? You're full of shit. The footage is clear, that Israeli soldiers use Palestinians as human shields. Palestinians have a right to defend themselves despite your stupid redneck ass asserting otherwise.

so you condone the Oct 7 massacre. Look at you!!

 

[jc456]

How so? The Jewish religion envisions all of the nations being enslaved. They've also enslaved America.

sounds like you are for the extinguishing of jews. Look at you stepping out.

 

[Frankenstein]

It's your beloved capitalism and Christian religion that is responsible for the trivialization of life, lack of accountability, and self-control.

Yet when I ask how you won't be able to provide an answer