Republicans fail to make any rational argument why society must force full term gestation on all women. Their failed arguments are examined here:

[HeyNorm]

You can believe that if you want and if more people like you are in charge, that will be the law in our country. Fortunately, most people don't think like you.

Your argument is exactly the same as those who didn’t believe that blacks were human enough to be afforded their rights.

 

[HeyNorm]

Calling me a bigot doesn't make what I'm saying incorrect. More stupidity on your part.

That’s exactly what slave owners said! Good job bigot.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Your argument is exactly the same as those who didn’t believe that blacks were human enough to be afforded their rights.

Really? A zygote, embryo, or half-brained fetus is equivalent to a black man or woman? Damn, you're dumb.

 

[TruthNotBS]

That’s exactly what slave owners said! Good job bigot.

Slave owners aren't wrong on account of you calling them an ugly name like "bigot", they're wrong for other reasons, which you, of course, can't grasp due to how stupid you are.

 

[HeyNorm]

Really? A zygote, embryo, or half-brained fetus is equivalent to a black man or woman? Damn, you're dumb.

Equivalent has no bearing in legal terms. Civil rights are judged on being “similarly situated”.

Is an 8.5 month gestated fetus “similarly situated” to a newborn?

 

[TruthNotBS]

Equivalent has no bearing in legal terms. Civil rights are judged on being “similarly situated”.

Is an 8.5 month gestated fetus “similarly situated” to a newborn?

A zygote, embryo, or undeveloped fetus, early in the woman's pregnancy isn't equivalent to a 6, 7, or 8-month fetus, much less a newborn baby. I'm not for late-term abortions, unless it's to save the life of the mother or avoid serious medical complications. Otherwise, there should be a limit to when a woman can legally abort her pregnancy.

What's pathetic, is how "pro-lifers" claim to care so much about fetuses in the wombs of strangers, while completely disregarding the needs of single mothers who are trying to raise children all by themselves. If you're going to force a woman by government authority, to remain pregnant, then you better have the infrastructure in place to meet her needs. You don't have that, you just flip her the finger and tell her to go get a job, even when she's unable to, due to her pregnancy or lack of resources.

If the pro-lifers actually cared about other people's babies, they wouldn't be defunding social programs that help single mothers raise their children. Food stamps, rental assistance, Medicaid, child daycare, school lunch programs, afterschool programs, job training for single mothers, educational grants..etc. You conservative Republicans are always voting against such programs, pretending that single mothers don't need them and that leads to this:

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You claim to be pro-life, are the above examples of unwanted pregnancies and poverty, "pro-life"? More like pro-death.

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[Slyhunter]

In a democratic socialist country, everyone who is able-bodied, has to find gainful employment, either in the private sector or in the public sector, working for the government. Choose. If you're sick and unable to work, that's a different story, but if you're healthy and able to work, you will work, whether you want to or not.

Sounds like Fascism.

 

[Slyhunter]

Like I said, which you conveniently ignored, DNA tests have already proven that the Palestinians are the indigenous people of the land, and just because their ancestors converted to Islam, from Judaism and Christianity, doesn't make them any less natives of that land. A Jew from Poland, Russia or Crown Heights Brooklyn, has much less Middle Eastern genetics, if any at all, than a Palestinian. It's preposterous for anyone to suggest that a Jew from Russia, is more likely to descend from Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, than a Middle Eastern person, indigenous to the holy land.

No one has the right to commit genocide to conquer land. The Palestinians, whether Christian or Muslim have every right to live there, and Jews from Europe or wherever else they come from, don't have the right to dispossess the Christians and Muslim who have been living there for centuries. Again you're just a religious piece of shit Zionist, unable to think rationally. Israel is a racist ethnostate, and it will be defeated.

It isn't Genocide to remove the Palestinians from the land, they have 150 Arab countries, taken by conquest BTW, they don't need one more. The Jews only has the one. And you folks are trying to commit genocide against the Israelis.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Sounds like Fascism.

Sounds like common sense, which you lack. You're a miscreant, that thinks he can do whatever he wants while living in a community with other human beings. You can't do whatever you want, sorry. Perhaps you should go live out in the forest with the squirrels, or move to Antarctica with the penguins.

 

[Mac-7]

A zygote, embryo, or undeveloped fetus, early in the woman's pregnancy isn't equivalent to a 6, 7, or 8-month fetus, much less a newborn baby. I'm not for late-term abortions, unless it's to save the life of the mother or avoid serious medical complications. Otherwise, there should be a limit to when a woman can legally abort her pregnancy, for reasons other than the ones just mentioned.

What's pathetic, is how "pro-lifers" claim to care so much about fetuses in the wombs of strangers, while completely disregarding the needs of single mothers who are trying to raise children all by themselves. If you're going to force a woman by government authority, to remain pregnant, then you better have the infrastructure in place to meet her needs. You don't have that, you just flip her the finger and tell her to go get a job, even when she's unable to, due to her pregnancy or lack of resources.

If the pro-lifers actually cared about other people's babies, they wouldn't be defunding social programs that help single mothers raise their children. Food stamps, rental assistance, Medicaid, child daycare, school lunch programs, afterschool programs, job training for single mothers, educational grants..etc. You conservative Republicans are always voting against such programs, pretending that single mothers don't need them and that leads to this:

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You claim to be pro-life, are the above examples of unwanted pregnancies and poverty, "pro-life"? More like pro-death.

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I’m guessing you dont believe in God the Creator of life

Legally society can kill inborn humans at any age that 5 judges on the Supreme Court can agree on

But scientifically we have the same unique dna, and are the same person, at conception till the day we die, even if its 100 years later

 

[Slyhunter]

Slave owners aren't wrong on account of you calling them an ugly name like "bigot", they're wrong for other reasons, which you, of course, can't grasp due to how stupid you are.

The Muslims still practice Slavery, BTW.

 

[TruthNotBS]

It isn't Genocide to remove the Palestinians from the land, they have 150 Arab countries, taken by conquest BTW, they don't need one more. The Jews only has the one. And you folks are trying to commit genocide against the Israelis.

No one is trying to commit genocide against the Jews in the Middle East, there are about 9 thousand Jews in Iran and thousands of Jews still living in Morroco. Why aren't the Muslims trying to wipe them out? The Palestinians are the indigenous people of that land, so your so-called "chosen special people", don't have the right to dispossess the Christians and Muslims from the holy land. Nice try, but you're colonialist, genocidal ass is failing and your beloved Jewish racist Zionists are going to be defeated.

 

[Slyhunter]

Sounds like common sense, which you lack. You're a miscreant, that thinks he can do whatever he wants while living in a community with other human beings. You can't do whatever you want, sorry. Perhaps you should go live out in the forest with the squirrels, or move to Antarctica with the penguins.

Is that your argument for Fascism?

 

[TruthNotBS]

The Muslims still practice Slavery, BTW.

How so? The Jewish religion envisions all of the nations being enslaved. They've also enslaved America.

 

[Slyhunter]

No one is trying to commit genocide against the Jews in the Middle East, there are about 9 thousand Jews in Iran and thousands of Jews still living in Morroco. Why aren't the Muslims trying to wipe them out? The Palestinians are the indigenous people of that land, so your so-called "chosen special people", don't have the right to dispossess the Christians and Muslims from the holy land. Nice try, but you're colonialist, genocidal ass is failing and your beloved Jewish racist Zionists are going to be defeated.

There are Hundreds of Billions in 150 different countries. There is only one for Israelis.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Is that your argument for Fascism?

Saying that everyone who can work must be employed or doing something productive with their lives, isn't fascism. But if you want to call it that, that's fine. Even the Bible says that those who don't work, don't eat. Right? Ever read the bible? You claim to be an agnostic, but you're clearly not, you're a Christian Zionist fundie. Your bible says that those who don't work, don't eat. So every person who can work must work in something.

 

[TruthNotBS]

There are Hundreds of Billions in 150 different countries. There is only one for Israelis.

There are only 8 billion human beings on Earth, so your "hundreds of billions" figure is wrong. The Christians and Muslims of the holy land have every right to be there and they should be treated equally before the law as every Jew. Unfortunately, Jews are unable to do that, so they should just get kicked out of the land and go back to the countries where they came from. As I said, genetically, the indigenous people of the holy land are the Christian and Muslim Palestinians, not the Ashkenazi Jews from Poland and New Jersey.

 

[Slyhunter]

How so? The Jewish religion envisions all of the nations being enslaved. They've also enslaved America.

History of slavery in the Muslim world - Wikipedia

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Learn What Role Islam Played in Slavery in Africa

When Africans talk of slavery they inevitably mean the trans-Atlantic trade of enslaved people. Is this a true representation of the practice?

www.thoughtco.com

In Central African Republic, Diamonds Fuel A Cycle of Violence and Poverty

Central African Republic's diamonds have fueled political wars, leaving the country divided and its once thriving diamond trade banned from world markets.

projects.voanews.com

The 10 months of Seleka rule, under Michel Djotodia, were characterized by fear and pillage, from the countryside to Bangui.


“Throughout the period in which the Seleka controlled the capital, looting of houses, shops and medical centers reached endemic levels,” said IPIS, a Belgian research firm, in a report released November 24. “In their advance through the central and western parts of the country, Seleka forces again systematically plundered villages and towns, sometimes even razing entire villages to the ground.”

Seleka groups retreated from the capital into the countryside. But they retained swaths of territory in the country’s north and center.

 

[TruthNotBS]

I’m guessing you dont believe in God the Creator of life

Legally society can kill inborn humans at any age that 5 judges on the Supreme Court can agree on

But scientifically we have the same unique dna, and are the same person, at conception till the day we die, even if its 100 years later

If you want to believe a zygote, embryo or half-brained fetus, is a human being with all of the same rights as the woman who is carrying them, believe that. Fortunately, most people have enough sense not to equate a mere zygote, embryo or undeveloped fetus as a human person or being. It's a potential human being if allowed to develop drawing resources from the uterus of a woman (an actual human being). Her needs and interests should always take precedence over what is attached to her uterus, especially early in pregnancy. You conservatives really have no moral high ground upon which to stand and judge pro-choice women when you're defunding government social programs that help single mothers raise their children. You want to force women to give birth without supporting the infrastructure to help them raise those children. That's wrong.

 

[Slyhunter]

Saying that everyone who can work must be employed or doing something productive with their lives, isn't fascism. But if you want to call it that, that's fine. Even the Bible says that those who don't work, don't eat. Right? Ever read the bible? You claim to be an agnostic, but you're clearly not, you're a Christian Zionist fundie. Your bible says that those who don't work, don't eat. So every person who can work must work in something.

We already have Capitalism where everyone needs to work to get room and board paid for. Welfare and other governmental handouts screws that up though.