Republicans condemn 87,000 IRS agents who don’t (and won’t) exist

[Whodatsaywhodat.]

Cleaned up Off Topic and Reponses to Off Topic
Thread topic is "Wait, I thought We Were Told There Would Be No 87,000 New IRS Agents...."
with the OP questioning the need for weapons and ammo if they are to be IT/Customer Service.
Stay on Topic

Omg. Unreal .... your a moderator... place is going to hell.

 

[MinTrut]

I've read many snowflakes on this board claim there wouldn't be any 87,000 new IRS personnel.

Now we're being 'reassured' the new 87,000 agents will only be for 'tech support and customer service'.

Ok, but.....

Why do IT and customer support need so much ammo and tactical training?

Reuters assures us the 87,000 new IRS agents will be 'tasked with IT support and answering taxpayer questions'

twitchy.com

Shoot first & write code later?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You are the complete moron. You apparently believe that oil executives are lying when they say that shareholders are the reason for their not increasing drilling. Many of the drilling rigs were closed due to the lack of demand. Now they are finding that they can make more money by keeping supplies low. Worth noting that Biden has sold more leases in his first year than Trump did. Oil companies have thousands of pieces of land that they have not even begun to explore. Keystone was junk oil. It was extremely corrosive and locals opposed the project. As evidence, you offer biased opinions.

You apparently believe that oil executives are lying when they say that shareholders are the reason for their not increasing drilling.

It's true, shareholders are reluctant to spend billions on long-term projects when some moron in the Federal government could shut them down with a new executive order or new regulation.

Worth noting that Biden has sold more leases in his first year than Trump did

Worth noting, the oil companies don't trust Biden. Weird.

Keystone was junk oil.

Even junk oil can be turned into gasoline and diesel.

 

[Lesh]

The claim that oil companies are controlling the price of oil doesn't pass the laugh test. If they control it, then why did it ever come down?

For one thing Biden has been releasing a million barrels a day from the Strategic Oil Resery

 

[bripat9643]

The FBI agents who searched for documents at Mar-A-Largo acted in a non-biased way.

Their search was authorized by a unbiased federal magistrate who decided there was a reasonable probability that a crime was committed.

Even funnier.

The FBI had to detail exactly what they were looking for.

Every document created by the administration during Trump's tenure is detailing exactly what documents they were looking for?

Comey did not read off a list of crimes that Clinton committed. Clinton did not take any classified documents when she resigned as Secretary of State. She went to great pains to ensure that.

She had them on her mail server where they were accessible by every intelligence agency in the world, dumbass.

We have a tradition of free speech in this country as REPUBLICAN Governor Larry Hogan pointed out. The people who are still in jail are there because they committed serious crimes. The DC Court of Appeals agreed with that.,

People went to jail simply for strolling through the capitol after the police invited them in.

We are sick of you biased fascist Trump pigs.

ROFL! You live in a fantasy land, NAZI. You defend fascism.

 

[Lesh]

for greater scrutiny using "trigger words" because they were OVERWHELMED

The previous default standard was approval.

And the only group denied tax exempt status was a progressive group

They didn't have to deny forever, just delay until after the 2012 elections. And they did.

Prove it

 

[bripat9643]

For one thing Biden has been releasing a million barrels a day from the Strategic Oil Resery

A drop in the bucket.

 

[bripat9643]

The IRS went after liberal organizations as well.

They went after one for cover purposes.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

They targeted an equal number of progressive groups and conservative groups...

Link?

 

[Lesh]

Prices of gasoline are coming down thanks to the recession Dementia put us in, not any policy of his. Trump signed a bill to pay people when unemployment was a threat. By the time Dementia got in, jobs were opening up all over the place. It was simply pandering to his voters and create more government dependents. He signed that bill in March of 2021 when we had 3 vaccines and people were going back to work.

In March of 2021 the pandemic was still raging and few had been vaccinated yet

Trump had poured far more money out to the people “to stay home” prior to that.
Both contributed to inflation

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Prove it

Controversial intensive scrutiny of political groups[edit]​

Beginning in March 2010, the IRS more closely scrutinized certain organizations applying for tax-exempt status under sections 501(c)(3) and 501(c)(4) of the Internal Revenue Code by focusing on groups with certain words in their names.[37][38][39] In May 2010, some employees of the "Determinations Unit" of the Cincinnati office of the IRS, which is tasked with reviewing applications pertaining to tax-exempt status, began developing a spreadsheet that became known as the "Be On the Look Out" ("BOLO") list.

The list, first distributed in August 2010, suggested intensive scrutiny of applicants with names related to a number of political causes, including names related to the Tea Party movement and other conservative causes.[39] Eventually, IRS employees in Ohio, California, and Washington, D.C.[40] applied closer scrutiny to applications from organizations that:[41][42][43]

• referenced words such as "Tea Party", "Patriots", or "9/12 Project", "progressive," "occupy," "Israel," "open source software," "medical marijuana" and "occupied territory advocacy" in the case file;[38][39]
• outlined issues in the application that included government spending, government debt, or taxes;
• involved advocating or lobbying to "make America a better place to live";
• had statements in the case file that criticized how the country is being run;
• advocated education about the Constitution and the Bill of Rights;
• were focused on challenging the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act—known by many as Obamacare;
• questioned the integrity of federal elections.

Over the two years between April 2010 and April 2012, the IRS essentially placed on hold the processing of applications for 501(c)(4) tax-exemption status received from organizations with "Tea Party", "patriots", or "9/12" in their names. While apparently none of these organizations' applications were denied during this period,[Note 2] only 4 were approved.[45] During the same general period, the agency approved applications from several dozen presumably liberal-leaning organizations whose names included terms such as "progressive", "progress", "liberal", or "equality".[45][46] However, the IRS also selected several progressive- or Democratic-leaning organizations for increased scrutiny. An affiliate of the liberal group Emerge America had its request for tax-exempt status denied, leading to a review (and the eventual revocation) of the larger Emerge America organization's tax-exempt status.[44] The conservative National Review states that a November 2010 version of the IRS's BOLO list indicates that liberal and conservative groups were in fact treated differently because liberal groups could be approved for tax-exempt status by line agents, while tea party groups could not.[47]

IRS targeting controversy - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

DURR

 

[eagle1462010]

Yes they are. You fascists attack civil servants by suggesting that they want to subjugate Americans. Republicans have starved the IRS of resources to carry out their mission. This has affected the processing of tax returns, taxpayers who have questions as well as allowing the rich to evade taxes.

There is no addition of a large number of civil servants. Some of these employees will replace retiring workers. Some will replace workers who have left and who the IRS has been unable to replacer.

Which is controlled by existing budgets that have checks and balances via the House and Senate. Show the cuts to this budget or carry your happy TDS Duck ass back to Canada

 

[eagle1462010]

In March of 2021 the pandemic was still raging and few had been vaccinated yet

Trump had poured far more money out to the people “to stay home” prior to that.
Both contributed to inflation

All by himself huh. House and Senate did nothing huh....locking down harshly was primarily up to the states, but id have vetoed most of it.. Fired most of the CDC and FDA and said open the hell back up or we will destroy our economy.

Hell I said that here on these boards over and over again back then.

 

[eagle1462010]

That is not necessarily true. The fact is that funding of the IRS has not kept up with increased costs. This means they are unable to fill open positions.

Prove it or waddle your Duck ass back home.

 

[busybee01]

The claim that oil companies are controlling the price of oil doesn't pass the laugh test. If they control it, then why did it ever come down?

They have controlled it very well. Despite the fact that oil traders expect a recession, oil is still well over $80 a barrel.

 

[busybee01]

Prove it or waddle your Duck ass back home.

The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) budget has been cut by 17 percent since 2010, after adjusting for inflation, forcing the IRS to reduce its workforce, severely scale back employee training, and delay much-needed upgrades to information technology systems. These steps, in turn, have weakened the IRS’s ability to enforce the nation’s tax laws and serve taxpayers efficiently, as the National Taxpayer Advocate, the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration, the IRS Oversight Board, and the Government Accountability Office have all documented. As seven former IRS commissioners from both Republican and Democratic administrations have written: “Over the last fifty years, none of us has ever witnessed anything like what has happened to the IRS appropriations over the last five years and the impact these appropriations reductions are having on our tax system.”[2]

This was back in 2016.

IRS Funding Cuts Compromise Taxpayer Service and Weaken Enforcement | Center on Budget and Policy Priorities

The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) budget has been cut by 17 percent since 2010, after adjusting for inflation, forcing the IRS to reduce its workforce, severely scale back employee training, and...

www.cbpp.org

 

[busybee01]

Which is controlled by existing budgets that have checks and balances via the House and Senate. Show the cuts to this budget or carry your happy TDS Duck ass back to Canada

Go back to Russia. That is the closest you will come to Nazi Germany.

 

[miketx]

Republicans condemn 87,000 IRS agents who don’t (and won’t) exist

Republicans are so outraged by renewed efforts to enforce existing tax laws, they're telling some rather brazen lies about the Inflation Reduction Act.

www.msnbc.com

An idle threat by the extreme right in America?
Or an undisguised threat of a turn to fascism?

Indications are that it's the latter, and there's little resistance to it on account of it being seen as acceptable now in America's political climate. Will the FBI and DOJ be able to stop it in its tracks before it's too late? Comments?

Fake news.

 

[busybee01]

They went after one for cover purposes.

Progressive was one of the words they used. That is a word used by liberals.

 

[eagle1462010]

The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) budget has been cut by 17 percent since 2010, after adjusting for inflation, forcing the IRS to reduce its workforce, severely scale back employee training, and delay much-needed upgrades to information technology systems. These steps, in turn, have weakened the IRS’s ability to enforce the nation’s tax laws and serve taxpayers efficiently, as the National Taxpayer Advocate, the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration, the IRS Oversight Board, and the Government Accountability Office have all documented. As seven former IRS commissioners from both Republican and Democratic administrations have written: “Over the last fifty years, none of us has ever witnessed anything like what has happened to the IRS appropriations over the last five years and the impact these appropriations reductions are having on our tax system.”[2]

This was back in 2016.

IRS Funding Cuts Compromise Taxpayer Service and Weaken Enforcement | Center on Budget and Policy Priorities

The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) budget has been cut by 17 percent since 2010, after adjusting for inflation, forcing the IRS to reduce its workforce, severely scale back employee training, and...

www.cbpp.org

Do a flat tax and fire them all
I do thank you for a link to budget cuts. Cuts made under Obama