Republicans are in trouble

[Dragon]

Ohhhhh That's why California hasn't got enough money to even fix its potholes!

Almost all state governments are having trouble with their budgets. The fact remains that California's economy is doing quite well, given the circumstances -- much better than those states that do things the way you recommend.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Obama 2012: Almost 85% of Americans are fully employed and he only got us downgraded once!

Woot!

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Did I say America has gone full blown socialism?

No, but here's what you did say:

Once you allow the government more control run more things that control your life you are support full blown socialism. in the end. it's just a matter of time

Clearly, what you are saying is that if we implement any kind of economic liberalism, Euro-socialism, social democracy, etc. we will end up with full-blown socialism.

The reality, though, is there is not one single historical example of a country that has EVER evolved in this way. Not one European social democracy, not the U.S. when we had a similar system (1940s-1970s), not Japan, nobody. There is no evidence at all to support your contention that economic liberalism leads to full-blown socialism. It has never happened anywhere, and there is no reason to believe it ever will.

Do you even know what socialism is?

Better than you do, most likely. For example, this:

Socialism is the economic system used by most dictatorships.

Would not be a defining characteristic of socialism even if it were true. Which it isn't.

Clearly, what you are saying is that if we implement any kind of economic liberalism, Euro-socialism, social democracy, etc. we will end up with full-blown socialism.

How many countries in the world have a government? How are countries doing that have socialism as there economical system?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Obama 2012: Almost 85% of Americans are fully employed and he only got us downgraded once!

Woot!

Yep those are some great numbers aren't they?

 

[Dragon]

How many countries in the world have a government? How are countries doing that have socialism as there economical system?

Why are you changing the subject? Why do you consider that relevant? Nobody is talking about socialism except you.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

How many countries in the world have a government? How are countries doing that have socialism as there economical system?

Why are you changing the subject? Why do you consider that relevant? Nobody is talking about socialism except you.

Why are you posting part of the post? What I posted was in context to what you and I were discussing.

 

[Stephanie]

This premise is incorrect. A 2.5% increase of $14.5 trillion shows that our economy spent $362 billion more in our 3rd quarter than the previous quarter. We're not going to see 8's or 9's over here.

You are looking at it in the wrong way. What people notice is their wallets and how many people they know who are on short time or out of work. They notice all the people at the grocery store using those food stamp plastic cards. They notice that gas has not went down even though it was said gas would go down when Gadaffi gone. They really don't care about the GDP or dow or nasdk numbers they care about the numbers in their wallet. Those numbers are not in obamas favor.

You are counting on the rest of the American Citizens being as dumb as you are. We just aren't that dumb and willfully ignorant. We remember what President Obama inherited from Bush. And we remember what Bush inherited from Clinton.

Our President has accomplished much, even with the total enmity of the right wingnuts in Congress and out. After he is re-elected, and most of the wingnuts are dismissed by the people that have found them to be totally stupid, with a vacuous agenda, he will accomplish more.

yeah he has accomplished much. got our credit downgraded, got us up to over 9% unemployment, lied to us about a 800billion stimulus that was suppose to bring unemployment down and create all these (SHOVEL READY JOBS)..
Damn that's some accomplishments...ALL IN THREE YEARS.

 

[Oldstyle]

This premise is incorrect. A 2.5% increase of $14.5 trillion shows that our economy spent $362 billion more in our 3rd quarter than the previous quarter. We're not going to see 8's or 9's over here.

You are looking at it in the wrong way. What people notice is their wallets and how many people they know who are on short time or out of work. They notice all the people at the grocery store using those food stamp plastic cards. They notice that gas has not went down even though it was said gas would go down when Gadaffi gone. They really don't care about the GDP or dow or nasdk numbers they care about the numbers in their wallet. Those numbers are not in obamas favor.

You are counting on the rest of the American Citizens being as dumb as you are. We just aren't that dumb and willfully ignorant. We remember what President Obama inherited from Bush. And we remember what Bush inherited from Clinton.

Our President has accomplished much, even with the total enmity of the right wingnuts in Congress and out. After he is re-elected, and most of the wingnuts are dismissed by the people that have found them to be totally stupid, with a vacuous agenda, he will accomplish more.

What I find most amusing about this post is that it asks people to totally ignore the fact that Barack Obama went into his presidency with super majorities in the House and Senate and despite that didn't do anything except pass probably the worst peice of legislation in our nation's history, ObamaCare and a trillion dollar stimulus that didn't stimulate anything.

Specifically...what is it that you think he will "accomplish" this time that he couldn't the first time? You're obviously a "true believer" so share with us your vision of what Barack Obama will do THIS time around that he wasn't able to do the first time? Maybe submit a budget?

 

[Dragon]

How many countries in the world have a government? How are countries doing that have socialism as there economical system?

Why are you changing the subject? Why do you consider that relevant? Nobody is talking about socialism except you.

Why are you posting part of the post? What I posted was in context to what you and I were discussing.

No, it was a complete non-sequitur. I am not talking about socialism; only you are. Thus, how socialist economic systems are doing is completely irrelevant to the discussion. Nobody is proposing that the U.S. adopt a socialist economic system, thus, we need not consider whether or not that's a good idea.

 

[Listening]

Well,

The liberal "Black Knights" on the left (you know, the guys like the gent in Monty Python who is getting his arms and leg chopped off all the while talking tough) are still flapping their jaws.

No ass kicking that I have seen.

A couple of elections and they have wet dreams for a week at a time.

 

[The T]

Well,

The liberal "Black Knights" on the left (you know, the guys like the gent in Monty Python who is getting his arms and leg chopped off all the while talking tough) are stick flapping their jaws.

No ass kicking that I have seen.

A couple of elections and they have wet dreams for a week at a time.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjEcj8KpuJw]Monty Python- The Black Knight Fight - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Listening]

A bump for those ass kicking liberals.

 

[Londoner]

 

[Listening]

What They Won't Tell You about the National Debt - YouTube

Please remind me who is responsible for setting the budget and appropriations for the federal government ?