Republicans are ignorant about the most basic FACTS about welfare in this country

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The truth of the matter is that the wealthy receive enormous gov assistance through subsidies. The poor on the other hand get peanuts.

Let's start with the poor and SNAP (food stamps).

The average SNAP recipient receives $133 a month. The average SNAP recipient has a gross income of $744 a MONTH per household. 76% of households have at least one dependent living there. 83% of households receiving SNAP are below the poverty line. The other 17 are at the poverty line or make 130% of the poverty line. And despite what you cons like to believe, food stamps fraud is RARE.

All the sobering facts on food stamps are here.

SNAP (Food Stamps): Facts, Myths and Realities

Now the wealthy. Oh boy.

1) corporations receive $80 billion a year through state and local subsidies.

2) Federal subsidies for corporations cost TAX PAYERS 100 billion a year.

3) The official tax rate for corporations is 35%. However, because of tax breaks, corporations only pay 13% a year in taxes.

4) wealthy hedge fund managers cost tax payers 83 billion a year.

5) subsidies for fast food companies cost tax payers 243 billion a year.

6) deductions for mortgage cost tax payers 70 billion a year. 77% of this funding goes to income earners of 100,000 a year or more.

Top Ten Examples of Welfare for the Rich » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names

The more facts we learn, the more realize just how much bullshit republicanism really is.
 
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shut up you ignorant troll
come call me ignorant to my face
you're so worried about people send the government your weekly paycheck to help take care of them...put your money where your mouth is
 
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The truth of the matter is that the wealthy receive enormous gov assistance through subsidies. The poor on the other hand get peanuts.

Let's start with the poor and SNAP (food stamps).

The average SNAP recipient receives $133 a month. The average SNAP recipient has a gross income of $744 a MONTH per household. 76% of households have at least one dependent living there. 83% of households receiving SNAP are below the poverty line. The other 17 are at the poverty line or make 130% of the poverty line. And despite what you cons like to believe, food stamps fraud is RARE.

All the sobering facts on food stamps are here.

SNAP (Food Stamps): Facts, Myths and Realities

Now the wealthy. Oh boy.

1) corporations receive $80 billion a year through state and local subsidies.

2) Federal subsidies for corporations cost TAX PAYERS 100 billion a year.

3) The official tax rate for corporations is 35%. However, because of tax breaks, corporations only pay 13% a year in taxes.

Top Ten Examples of Welfare for the Rich » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names


So you agree with Mitt Romney that corporations are people. Good to know. :eusa_clap:
 
The truth of the matter is that the wealthy receive enormous gov assistance through subsidies. The poor on the other hand get peanuts.

Let's start with the poor and SNAP (food stamps).

The average SNAP recipient receives $133 a month. The average SNAP recipient has a gross income of $744 a MONTH per household. 76% of households have at least one dependent living there. 83% of households receiving SNAP are below the poverty line. The other 17 are at the poverty line or make 130% of the poverty line. And despite what you cons like to believe, food stamps fraud is RARE.

All the sobering facts on food stamps are here.

SNAP (Food Stamps): Facts, Myths and Realities

Now the wealthy. Oh boy.

1) corporations receive $80 billion a year through state and local subsidies.

2) Federal subsidies for corporations cost TAX PAYERS 100 billion a year.

3) The official tax rate for corporations is 35%. However, because of tax breaks, corporations only pay 13% a year in taxes.

4) wealthy hedge fund managers cost tax payers 83 billion a year.

5) subsidies for fast food companies cost tax payers 243 billion a year.

6) deductions for mortgage cost tax payers 70 billion a year. 77% of this funding goes to income earners of 100,000 a year or more.

Top Ten Examples of Welfare for the Rich » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names
Tax breaks and in-kind welfare handouts are not the same thing.

Leave it to progressives. :rolleyes:
 
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shut up you ignorant troll
come call me ignorant to my face
you're so worried about people send the government your weekly paycheck to help take care of them...put your money where your mouth is

Yes I realize the cognitive dissonance you are feeling is overwhelming, but facts are what they are.
 
shut up you ignorant troll
come call me ignorant to my face
you're so worried about people send the government your weekly paycheck to help take care of them...put your money where your mouth is

Yes I realize the cognitive dissonance you are feeling is overwhelming, but facts are what they are.

You wouldn't know a fact if it kicked in the ass...You find some website and post their crap and act like it's the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth
 
The truth of the matter is that the wealthy receive enormous gov assistance through subsidies. The poor on the other hand get peanuts.

Let's start with the poor and SNAP (food stamps).

The average SNAP recipient receives $133 a month. The average SNAP recipient has a gross income of $744 a MONTH per household. 76% of households have at least one dependent living there. 83% of households receiving SNAP are below the poverty line. The other 17 are at the poverty line or make 130% of the poverty line. And despite what you cons like to believe, food stamps fraud is RARE.

All the sobering facts on food stamps are here.

SNAP (Food Stamps): Facts, Myths and Realities

Now the wealthy. Oh boy.

1) corporations receive $80 billion a year through state and local subsidies.

2) Federal subsidies for corporations cost TAX PAYERS 100 billion a year.

3) The official tax rate for corporations is 35%. However, because of tax breaks, corporations only pay 13% a year in taxes.

Top Ten Examples of Welfare for the Rich » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names

Umm, just a simple math question here but how is it people on welfare not paying anything into the tax system somehow get less in subsidies than the people actually paying into the system?

So you're saying people actually paying into the system getting a few dollars back is somehow hurting people that pay nothing and rely on the system for their lively hood?

Subsidies to corporations (which aren't subsidies they are tax breaks for expanding or research) to the tune of 100 billion a year. After they paid the tax revenue of 1.5 trillion is somehow worse than someone paying in nothing and getting $133.00 per month. By the way, there are several million taking the $133.00 a month and not so many paying the taxes to support that.

Here's your homework for the evening.

Work out the math of how many can possibly survive on just a few people paying to support them. Even if you take 100% of these corporations money you still lose not only an employer and their employees but all the revenue you so desperately desire for the poor.

Look it over and let me know what you come up with.
 
The truth of the matter is that the wealthy receive enormous gov assistance through subsidies. The poor on the other hand get peanuts.

Let's start with the poor and SNAP (food stamps).

The average SNAP recipient receives $133 a month. The average SNAP recipient has a gross income of $744 a MONTH per household. 76% of households have at least one dependent living there. 83% of households receiving SNAP are below the poverty line. The other 17 are at the poverty line or make 130% of the poverty line. And despite what you cons like to believe, food stamps fraud is RARE.

All the sobering facts on food stamps are here.

SNAP (Food Stamps): Facts, Myths and Realities

Now the wealthy. Oh boy.

1) corporations receive $80 billion a year through state and local subsidies.

2) Federal subsidies for corporations cost TAX PAYERS 100 billion a year.

3) The official tax rate for corporations is 35%. However, because of tax breaks, corporations only pay 13% a year in taxes.

Top Ten Examples of Welfare for the Rich » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names

Umm, just a simple math question here but how is it people on welfare not paying anything into the tax system somehow get less in subsidies than the people actually paying into the system?

So you're saying people actually paying into the system getting a few dollars back is somehow hurting people that pay nothing and rely on the system for their lively hood?

Subsidies to corporations (which aren't subsidies they are tax breaks for expanding or research) to the tune of 100 billion a year. After they paid the tax revenue of 1.5 trillion is somehow worse than someone paying in nothing and getting $133.00 per month. By the way, there are several million taking the $133.00 a month and not so many paying the taxes to support that.

Here's your homework for the evening.

Work out the math of how many can possibly survive on just a few people paying to support them. Even if you take 100% of these corporations money you still lose not only an employer and their employees but all the revenue you so desperately desire for the poor.

Look it over and let me know what you come up with.

I recently read this analogy somewhere:

Say you are getting mugged in the street. The robber then decides decides to hand you $20 out of your wallet for cab fare home. You are still out the rest of the cash and credit cards that were in your pocket, but at least you don't have to walk home.

This is what progressives are now calling a "subsidy".
 
The truth of the matter is that the wealthy receive enormous gov assistance through subsidies. The poor on the other hand get peanuts.

Let's start with the poor and SNAP (food stamps).

The average SNAP recipient receives $133 a month. The average SNAP recipient has a gross income of $744 a MONTH per household. 76% of households have at least one dependent living there. 83% of households receiving SNAP are below the poverty line. The other 17 are at the poverty line or make 130% of the poverty line. And despite what you cons like to believe, food stamps fraud is RARE.

All the sobering facts on food stamps are here.

SNAP (Food Stamps): Facts, Myths and Realities

Now the wealthy. Oh boy.

1) corporations receive $80 billion a year through state and local subsidies.

2) Federal subsidies for corporations cost TAX PAYERS 100 billion a year.

3) The official tax rate for corporations is 35%. However, because of tax breaks, corporations only pay 13% a year in taxes.

Top Ten Examples of Welfare for the Rich » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names

Umm, just a simple math question here but how is it people on welfare not paying anything into the tax system somehow get less in subsidies than the people actually paying into the system?

So you're saying people actually paying into the system getting a few dollars back is somehow hurting people that pay nothing and rely on the system for their lively hood?

Subsidies to corporations (which aren't subsidies they are tax breaks for expanding or research) to the tune of 100 billion a year. After they paid the tax revenue of 1.5 trillion is somehow worse than someone paying in nothing and getting $133.00 per month. By the way, there are several million taking the $133.00 a month and not so many paying the taxes to support that.

Here's your homework for the evening.

Work out the math of how many can possibly survive on just a few people paying to support them. Even if you take 100% of these corporations money you still lose not only an employer and their employees but all the revenue you so desperately desire for the poor.

Look it over and let me know what you come up with.

I have to say this is a very feeble argument. Food stamps cost 75 billion a year which is nothing compared to what the wealthy get. Do you honestly believe that corporations need all of this assistance?

Oh and anyone making $766 a month shouldn't pay taxes. If you want them to, raise the minimum wage. Everybody wins.
 
Alot of the poor are dumb, and lazy who generate more of the same - the cycle needs to be broken. Rewarding it only encourages more. That money could be better used than to perpetuate misery.

Liberal's faux concern for the poor is political. None of your elitist have poor friends :badgrin: Your full of shit :eusa_whistle: Liberals are way less charitable than conservatives - you are only liberal with other people's money :lol:
 
The truth of the matter is that the wealthy receive enormous gov assistance through subsidies. The poor on the other hand get peanuts.

Let's start with the poor and SNAP (food stamps).

The average SNAP recipient receives $133 a month. The average SNAP recipient has a gross income of $744 a MONTH per household. 76% of households have at least one dependent living there. 83% of households receiving SNAP are below the poverty line. The other 17 are at the poverty line or make 130% of the poverty line. And despite what you cons like to believe, food stamps fraud is RARE.

All the sobering facts on food stamps are here.

SNAP (Food Stamps): Facts, Myths and Realities

Now the wealthy. Oh boy.

1) corporations receive $80 billion a year through state and local subsidies.

2) Federal subsidies for corporations cost TAX PAYERS 100 billion a year.

3) The official tax rate for corporations is 35%. However, because of tax breaks, corporations only pay 13% a year in taxes.

Top Ten Examples of Welfare for the Rich » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names

Umm, just a simple math question here but how is it people on welfare not paying anything into the tax system somehow get less in subsidies than the people actually paying into the system?

So you're saying people actually paying into the system getting a few dollars back is somehow hurting people that pay nothing and rely on the system for their lively hood?

Subsidies to corporations (which aren't subsidies they are tax breaks for expanding or research) to the tune of 100 billion a year. After they paid the tax revenue of 1.5 trillion is somehow worse than someone paying in nothing and getting $133.00 per month. By the way, there are several million taking the $133.00 a month and not so many paying the taxes to support that.

Here's your homework for the evening.

Work out the math of how many can possibly survive on just a few people paying to support them. Even if you take 100% of these corporations money you still lose not only an employer and their employees but all the revenue you so desperately desire for the poor.

Look it over and let me know what you come up with.

I have to say this is a very feeble argument. Food stamps cost 75 billion a year which is nothing compared to what the wealthy get. Do you honestly believe that corporations need all of this assistance?

Oh and anyone making $766 a month shouldn't pay taxes. If you want them to, raise the minimum wage. Everybody wins.
:lol::lol::lol:

Hey, AzMike, you have to talk dumber for this one.
 
I have to say the USMB rightwing response so far is pretty weak.
I have to say that your definition of what is truly a subsidy and what is not is substantially weak.

I'm not sure you do. Go ahead. Educate me.

To say subsidies come in the form of tax breaks only is complete bullshit. My source proves that.
 
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The truth of the matter is that the wealthy receive enormous gov assistance through subsidies. The poor on the other hand get peanuts.

Let's start with the poor and SNAP (food stamps).

The average SNAP recipient receives $133 a month. The average SNAP recipient has a gross income of $744 a MONTH per household. 76% of households have at least one dependent living there. 83% of households receiving SNAP are below the poverty line. The other 17 are at the poverty line or make 130% of the poverty line. And despite what you cons like to believe, food stamps fraud is RARE.

All the sobering facts on food stamps are here.

SNAP (Food Stamps): Facts, Myths and Realities

Now the wealthy. Oh boy.

1) corporations receive $80 billion a year through state and local subsidies.

2) Federal subsidies for corporations cost TAX PAYERS 100 billion a year.

3) The official tax rate for corporations is 35%. However, because of tax breaks, corporations only pay 13% a year in taxes.

Top Ten Examples of Welfare for the Rich » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names

Umm, just a simple math question here but how is it people on welfare not paying anything into the tax system somehow get less in subsidies than the people actually paying into the system?

So you're saying people actually paying into the system getting a few dollars back is somehow hurting people that pay nothing and rely on the system for their lively hood?

Subsidies to corporations (which aren't subsidies they are tax breaks for expanding or research) to the tune of 100 billion a year. After they paid the tax revenue of 1.5 trillion is somehow worse than someone paying in nothing and getting $133.00 per month. By the way, there are several million taking the $133.00 a month and not so many paying the taxes to support that.

Here's your homework for the evening.

Work out the math of how many can possibly survive on just a few people paying to support them. Even if you take 100% of these corporations money you still lose not only an employer and their employees but all the revenue you so desperately desire for the poor.

Look it over and let me know what you come up with.

You are completely ignorant if you think subsidies only come in the form of tax breaks.
 
Why do we have to constantly remind the left that their guy is in the white house? A part of the ironically named "affordable care act" stipulates that billions of taxpayer dollars are authorized to prop up cooperative insurance companies. All republicans want to do is put food stamp recipients to work but it seems the democrat party and the radical left would rather support them with chump change stamps.
 
The truth of the matter is that the wealthy receive enormous gov assistance through subsidies. The poor on the other hand get peanuts.

Let's start with the poor and SNAP (food stamps).

The average SNAP recipient receives $133 a month. The average SNAP recipient has a gross income of $744 a MONTH per household. 76% of households have at least one dependent living there. 83% of households receiving SNAP are below the poverty line. The other 17 are at the poverty line or make 130% of the poverty line. And despite what you cons like to believe, food stamps fraud is RARE.

All the sobering facts on food stamps are here.

SNAP (Food Stamps): Facts, Myths and Realities

Now the wealthy. Oh boy.

1) corporations receive $80 billion a year through state and local subsidies.

2) Federal subsidies for corporations cost TAX PAYERS 100 billion a year.

3) The official tax rate for corporations is 35%. However, because of tax breaks, corporations only pay 13% a year in taxes.

4) wealthy hedge fund managers cost tax payers 83 billion a year.

5) subsidies for fast food companies cost tax payers 243 billion a year.

6) deductions for mortgage cost tax payers 70 billion a year. 77% of this funding goes to income earners of 100,000 a year or more.

Top Ten Examples of Welfare for the Rich » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names

The more facts we learn, the more realize just how much bullshit republicanism really is.

We give over 25% of the entire budget to the "poor" every year in this country.
Over 800 billion last year for 92 government programs that are intertwined and redundant and full of waste.
The liberal while they sit on their lazy asses giving the middle finger to the poor measures their "compassion" by how much money they can steal from someone else to give to the poor instead of getting off their fat asses themselves.
The conservative works to assist the poor to GET OUT OF POVERTY.
 
The truth of the matter is that the wealthy receive enormous gov assistance through subsidies. The poor on the other hand get peanuts.

Let's start with the poor and SNAP (food stamps).

The average SNAP recipient receives $133 a month. The average SNAP recipient has a gross income of $744 a MONTH per household. 76% of households have at least one dependent living there. 83% of households receiving SNAP are below the poverty line. The other 17 are at the poverty line or make 130% of the poverty line. And despite what you cons like to believe, food stamps fraud is RARE.

All the sobering facts on food stamps are here.

SNAP (Food Stamps): Facts, Myths and Realities

Now the wealthy. Oh boy.

1) corporations receive $80 billion a year through state and local subsidies.

2) Federal subsidies for corporations cost TAX PAYERS 100 billion a year.

3) The official tax rate for corporations is 35%. However, because of tax breaks, corporations only pay 13% a year in taxes.

4) wealthy hedge fund managers cost tax payers 83 billion a year.

5) subsidies for fast food companies cost tax payers 243 billion a year.

6) deductions for mortgage cost tax payers 70 billion a year. 77% of this funding goes to income earners of 100,000 a year or more.

Top Ten Examples of Welfare for the Rich » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names

The more facts we learn, the more realize just how much bullshit republicanism really is.

We give over 25% of the entire budget to the "poor" every year in this country.
Over 800 billion last year for 92 government programs that are intertwined and redundant and full of waste.
The liberal while they sit on their lazy asses giving the middle finger to the poor measures their "compassion" by how much money they can steal from someone else to give to the poor instead of getting off their fat asses themselves.
The conservative works to assist the poor to GET OUT OF POVERTY.

You are full of shit. That 25% refers to any welfare program including SS, Medicare and Medicaid.
 
OP: Okay...'the rich' do not receive subsidies. Certain factions, who are often rich, receive subsidies. You make it sound like subsidies are automatic for the rich.

Though, I will agree that at times Republicans distort welfare and use it as a scapegoat issue. All that said, Dems and Republicans are both reckless spenders at the end of the day.
 
OP: Okay...'the rich' do not receive subsidies. Certain factions, who are often rich, receive subsidies. You make it sound like subsidies are automatic for the rich.

Though, I will agree that at times Republicans distort welfare and use it as a scapegoat issue. All that said, Dems and Republicans are both reckless spenders at the end of the day.

I never said subsidies was the only way to get rich.
 
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