Republican Hypocrisy

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

The Republican Party cannot be taken seriously over its ranting and raving about debt spending when it continues to harbor trough feeders like Thad Cochran and Bill Young selfishly stuffing their faces with our tax dollars.

The top earmarkers in both the House and Senate are Republicans, even after the GOP has spent much of the past year making fiscal restraint and runaway government spending the centerpiece of its political message.

Rep. Bill Young (R-Fla.) and Sen. Thad Cochran (R-Miss.) — both atop defense spending panels — led their respective bodies in securing earmarks, according to an analysis by the nonprofit Taxpayers for Common Sense.

Read more: Republicans lead earmark list - Jake Sherman - POLITICO.com

 

[Meister]

Agreed, I think that if the GOP is to survive that it's going to have to walk the walk.
America seems to have woken up last summer when they saw the direction of this country is heading. A new breed of grassroots conservatives appeared all across this nation. I think both parties should understand what the feel for the governments role really is. It's not business as usual any longer on Capital Hill, and will be shown in the next election.

 

[☭proletarian☭]

Doesn't matter. Americans are too stupid for it to matter.

 

[Meister]

Doesn't matter. Americans are too stupid for it to matter.

I'm counting on you being wrong

 

[☭proletarian☭]

Doesn't matter. Americans are too stupid for it to matter.

I'm counting on you being wrong

Good luck with that. I'll be finding a nice little independent (evilsocialistcommiehippie) town to move to if this house of cards starts collapsing during my lifespan.

 

[Neotrotsky]

Well using that "measure", it must make Democrats twice as bad


Democratic Districts won twice as much stimulus cash as conservative districts.
Maybe she thinks democratic districts should get to keep all the stimulus cash?


Democratic districts have received nearly twice as much stimulus money as Republican districts and the cash has been awarded without regard to how badly an area was suffering from job losses, according to a new study.

The Mercatus Center at George Mason University reviewed the distribution of $157 billion in stimulus dollars based on publicly available reports and found that there was “no statistical correlation” between the amount of money a district got and its income or unemployment rate.

“You would think, right, that if the administration believes in its theory that government money can create jobs, they would spend a lot of money in districts that have high unemployment,” study co-author Veronique de Rugy said. “We found absolutely no relationship. It just kind of shows that the money is spent kind of randomly.”

Rather, the study found that Democratic congressional districts received 1.89 times more money than GOP districts. The average award for Democratic districts was $439 million, while the average award for Republican ones was $232 million.

On average, Democratic districts also got 152 awards, while Republican ones got 94.

 

[☭proletarian☭]

Your point, neo?

 

[Polk]

Agreed, I think that if the GOP is to survive that it's going to have to walk the walk.
America seems to have woken up last summer when they saw the direction of this country is heading. A new breed of grassroots conservatives appeared all across this nation. I think both parties should understand what the feel for the governments role really is. It's not business as usual any longer on Capital Hill, and will be shown in the next election.

Why would the Republicans need to actually do what they say they'll do? It's not like their supporters actually care about deficits.

 

[Neotrotsky]

Your point, neo?

Throw all the bums out

 

[☭proletarian☭]

Your point, neo?

Throw all the bums out

I concur with that sentiment.

 

[xsited1]

The Republican Party cannot be taken seriously over its ranting and raving about debt spending when it continues to harbor trough feeders like Thad Cochran and Bill Young selfishly stuffing their faces with our tax dollars.

...

Yep. I've stated before that I will probably never vote for another Republican again. They say they want smaller government, but their actions say they don't. I wonder how many other votes they've lost forever? At least with the Democrats, you know what you're going to get. That's why I vote 3rd party.

 

[Meister]

Agreed, I think that if the GOP is to survive that it's going to have to walk the walk.
America seems to have woken up last summer when they saw the direction of this country is heading. A new breed of grassroots conservatives appeared all across this nation. I think both parties should understand what the feel for the governments role really is. It's not business as usual any longer on Capital Hill, and will be shown in the next election.

Why would the Republicans need to actually do what they say they'll do? It's not like their supporters actually care about deficits.

I'm saying if they want to survive as a party...I think you missed that.
They didn't do too well in '08 did they?

 

[Polk]

Agreed, I think that if the GOP is to survive that it's going to have to walk the walk.
America seems to have woken up last summer when they saw the direction of this country is heading. A new breed of grassroots conservatives appeared all across this nation. I think both parties should understand what the feel for the governments role really is. It's not business as usual any longer on Capital Hill, and will be shown in the next election.

Why would the Republicans need to actually do what they say they'll do? It's not like their supporters actually care about deficits.

I'm saying if they want to survive as a party...I think you missed that.
They didn't do too well in '08 did they?

They didn't, but it had nothing to do with spending like crazy and putting it all on the national credit card. They lost because the economy was bad. Just like Obama will lose in 2012 in the public feels the economy is bad. As much as we want to attribute things to ideology and the resulting policy (and of course policy is important), factors beyond the control of the political process are just as, if not more, important.

 

[Meister]

Why would the Republicans need to actually do what they say they'll do? It's not like their supporters actually care about deficits.

I'm saying if they want to survive as a party...I think you missed that.
They didn't do too well in '08 did they?

They didn't, but it had nothing to do with spending like crazy and putting it all on the national credit card. They lost because the economy was bad. Just like Obama will lose in 2012 in the public feels the economy is bad. As much as we want to attribute things to ideology and the resulting policy (and of course policy is important), factors beyond the control of the political process are just as, if not more, important.

They didn't do well because they have lost their way as a conservative party, Polk. There is a fine line between democrats, and republicans, and the Tea Party people are tired of it, and they came out in huge numbers. If a third party splinters the republicans, they are dead in the water.

 

[beowolfe]

Well using that "measure", it must make Democrats twice as bad


Democratic Districts won twice as much stimulus cash as conservative districts.
Maybe she thinks democratic districts should get to keep all the stimulus cash?


Democratic districts have received nearly twice as much stimulus money as Republican districts and the cash has been awarded without regard to how badly an area was suffering from job losses, according to a new study.

The Mercatus Center at George Mason University reviewed the distribution of $157 billion in stimulus dollars based on publicly available reports and found that there was “no statistical correlation” between the amount of money a district got and its income or unemployment rate.

“You would think, right, that if the administration believes in its theory that government money can create jobs, they would spend a lot of money in districts that have high unemployment,” study co-author Veronique de Rugy said. “We found absolutely no relationship. It just kind of shows that the money is spent kind of randomly.”

Rather, the study found that Democratic congressional districts received 1.89 times more money than GOP districts. The average award for Democratic districts was $439 million, while the average award for Republican ones was $232 million.

On average, Democratic districts also got 152 awards, while Republican ones got 94.

So, you're attempting to justify one wrong by calling attention to another???? Why play a game where you as Joe Citizen is going to get screwed?

 

[Oddball]

The Republican Party cannot be taken seriously over its ranting and raving about debt spending when it continues to harbor trough feeders like Thad Cochran and Bill Young selfishly stuffing their faces with our tax dollars.

The top earmarkers in both the House and Senate are Republicans, even after the GOP has spent much of the past year making fiscal restraint and runaway government spending the centerpiece of its political message.

Rep. Bill Young (R-Fla.) and Sen. Thad Cochran (R-Miss.) — both atop defense spending panels — led their respective bodies in securing earmarks, according to an analysis by the nonprofit Taxpayers for Common Sense.

Read more: Republicans lead earmark list - Jake Sherman - POLITICO.com

The problem is the bloated budget to begin with, not the directed spending of money that was going to be spent anyways.

For example, say $100 million was going to Senator Bedfellow's state. He in turn earmarks $10 million of that to go to the Senator Bedfellow Memorial Blimp Hangar....His lack of earmarking the money didn't increase or decrease the total amount of money which was going to be spent in his state.

 

[The T]

Doesn't matter. Americans are too stupid for it to matter.

Pretty arrogant statement here. But then there IS a certain grain of truth to it. It's called the Cult Of Personality. And it's by design. People these days aren't interested in issues unless it directly affects them. Otherwise? If they've [a candidate] got charisma, speak well? Many don't dig any farther than that.

Look who's in the WhiteHouse. We are all paying for it now aren't we?

 

[Polk]

I'm saying if they want to survive as a party...I think you missed that.
They didn't do too well in '08 did they?

They didn't, but it had nothing to do with spending like crazy and putting it all on the national credit card. They lost because the economy was bad. Just like Obama will lose in 2012 in the public feels the economy is bad. As much as we want to attribute things to ideology and the resulting policy (and of course policy is important), factors beyond the control of the political process are just as, if not more, important.

They didn't do well because they have lost their way as a conservative party, Polk. There is a fine line between democrats, and republicans, and the Tea Party people are tired of it, and they came out in huge numbers. If a third party splinters the republicans, they are dead in the water.

If that happens... but it won't. That's the key. At worst (from the perspective of the GOP), they'll mount an insurrection for one election, the Democrats will win as a result, and they'll fold right back into the GOP. To their credit though, the teabagger leadership seems informed enough to know they're not going to win an election and therefore are more interested as acting as an interest group inside the GOP.

 

[JimH52]

I really think that now is the best time ever for a Third party. What kind of party? I am not sure, but it would have to be a hybrid of some kind and certainly cannot include the far right or far left.

 

[☭proletarian☭]

How bout we fuck the parties and vote based on principles?