Renewables continue to increase the percentage of power they generate for the grid

[Old Rocks]

Still won't be enough to feed the insatiable future needs of AI. Bring on the nukes!

My, my, so those data centers will just have to wait for ten years for them to build the nuke plants. LOL Wind and solar farms can be built in less than a year.

 

[Old Rocks]

Yeah, then they changed the law on them to where instead of getting the retail price for energy send back to the grid they now only get the wholesale rate.

That zeroed-out any savings they may have received.....The old .gov bait-n-switch.

As long as they also receive the peaker power rate when they pull power from the home batteries, that is fine with me. As both the panels and batteries continue to get less costly, the savings will continue to increase for those who can install solar.

 

[Old Rocks]

CA requires all new residential construction to include a photovoltaic system since 2020. Sounds reasonable on its face, but what happens when these systems need to be replaced or the roofs under them?

The California Solar Mandate: Everything You Need to Know

The California solar mandate requires newly built homes in California to be equipped with rooftop solar photovoltaic systems beginning January 1, 2020.

www.solar.com

Most solar panels are guaranteed for 25 to 30 years. There are plenty of roofing materials that are guaranteed for a like period.

 

[Old Rocks]

In states like TX and CA where they run roughshod over land owners using eminent domain to run transmission lines for third party solar/wind is where it will take place.

States like Virginia updated our constitutions to prevent eminent domain so 3rd party entities can not do that. Last I read only half the states did as Virginia did.

Data centers are being shot down all over Virginia once the residents find out what comes with them.

How data centers could quietly raise your electric bill - Better Cities Project

A New York Times report reveals how rising electricity use from data centers could shift the burden of costly grid upgrades onto everyday ratepayers.

better-cities.org

And they do not do the same for coal, gas, or nuclear generated power? LOL Your hypocrisy is amusing.

 

[Old Rocks]

We'll be the odd man out, because we'll have cheap reliable fossil fuel energy and they'll
still be suffering with blackouts and higher costs for their green idiocy?

LOL Australia had a grid failure problem when they were dependent on coal fired generation. They went to wind and solar with battery backup and solved most of that problem. They also reduced the cost for the electricity in the areas where they have the renewable with backup batteries.

Australia's renewable energy sector is making significant strides in reducing electricity costs. While renewables now account for 40% of the electricity in Australia’s main grid, the cost of power generation from solar and wind farms remains remarkably low. However, the transition to renewables requires investment in new transmission lines and storage solutions to ensure a reliable electricity supply during periods of low renewable generation. Despite the challenges, the path to lower electricity costs through renewable energy is still on track, with the potential to keep wholesale electricity prices as low as possible for Australian households and small businesses.

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[Captain Caveman]

In spite of the efforts of the kakistocracy in power at present, renewables continue to increase the amount of power to the grid, and new installations. Simple economics, the least costly and quickest to build. Even with energy storage, still least costly.

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Is the increase in energy bills inline with the increase in renewable energy production?

 

[Woodznutz]

My, my, so those data centers will just have to wait for ten years for them to build the nuke plants. LOL Wind and solar farms can be built in less than a year.

They'll build the data centers as fast as they can. Electric bills will rise as more will be siphoned off the grid to power them. Fossil fuel plants will come back on line as well as we rush headlong into the black hole of AI.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

My, my, so those data centers will just have to wait for ten years for them to build the nuke plants. LOL Wind and solar farms can be built in less than a year.

As long as you don't need reliable power, they're great. LOL!

 

[westwall]

My, my, so those data centers will just have to wait for ten years for them to build the nuke plants. LOL Wind and solar farms can be built in less than a year.

And they can't provide the baseload electricity that data centers need. Trump bypassed your government bureaucrats by allowing data centers to build their own power plants.

Sucks to be you.

 

[Concerned American]

My, my, so those data centers will just have to wait for ten years for them to build the nuke plants. LOL Wind and solar farms can be built in less than a year.

This looks exactly like where I want to live! RMFE.

 

[HikerGuy83]

In spite of the efforts of the kakistocracy in power at present, renewables continue to increase the amount of power to the grid, and new installations. Simple economics, the least costly and quickest to build. Even with energy storage, still least costly.

You've reached the point of gaslighting.

Congratulations.

 

[Concerned American]

Most solar panels are guaranteed for 25 to 30 years. There are plenty of roofing materials that are guaranteed for a like period.

Yeah, so in 25-30 years you get hammered with having to replace a roof AND solar panels. Try again.

 

[Old Rocks]

And they can't provide the baseload electricity that data centers need. Trump bypassed your government bureaucrats by allowing data centers to build their own power plants.

Sucks to be you.

Poor stupid old ass. Ever hear of pumped hydro, grid scale batteries, and many other ways of storing energy? Maybe you should try to move into the 21st century from the 19th.

 

[westwall]

Poor stupid old ass. Ever hear of pumped hydro, grid scale batteries, and many other ways of storing energy? Maybe you should try to move into the 21st century from the 19th.

Yeah, it doesn't work for baseload other than in very limited local applications.

Do you even understand what "base load" means?

This post of yours leads me to believe that you don't.

 

[Old Rocks]

Yeah, so in 25-30 years you get hammered with having to replace a roof AND solar panels. Try again.

And in 20 to 30 years you will still have to replace your roof, and it will probably cost far more than it does today. In the meantime, the panels then will probably be double the efficiency of those we have today and cost far less if they continue there downward slide in cost.

 

[westwall]

And in 20 to 30 years you will still have to replace your roof, and it will probably cost far more than it does today. In the meantime, the panels then will probably be double the efficiency of those we have today and cost far less if they continue there downward slide in cost.

I have a copper roof. Been on the house for 100 years. Good for another 100.

 

[Old Rocks]

Yeah, it doesn't work for caseload other than in very limited local applications.

Do you even understand what "base load" means?

This post of yours leads me to believe that you don't.

Yes, I fully understand what baseload means, and also understand what peaker hours mean.

Yes, there are nations where renewable energy is handling the base load.

• Iceland is a notable example, where 100% of the power in its grid comes from renewable sources, including geothermal and hydropower.
  
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[Toddsterpatriot]

Poor stupid old ass. Ever hear of pumped hydro, grid scale batteries, and many other ways of storing energy? Maybe you should try to move into the 21st century from the 19th.

They'd probably prefer cheap, reliable energy instead.

 

[Old Rocks]

I have a copper roof. Been on the house for 100 years. Good for another 100.

Well hurrah. And I don't believe a word you say. The only place I have seen in the US with copper roofs are on the East Coast.

 

[westwall]

Well hurrah. And I don't believe a word you say. The only place I have seen in the US with copper roofs are on the East Coast.

Well, then you're a dumbass. Up here in Northern Nevada we had lumber barons, cattle barons, Jewish merchants, and..of course, the mine owners. Who were all rich.

They used copper all over the place. Hell, Nevada had the first remote voting in the whole world.

It's amazing what you can learn if only you read a little.