Remember when I said that if Trump didn't build the wall last budget it wouldn't happen?

[Care4all]

As I figured, it won't happen now, as the Democrats won't buckle (and don't want permanent border security) and the GOP won't hold the line for the president to make sure it happens.

Oddly, of all the issues, this is probably the one that worries the global socialists the most. A wall ensures America maintains it's sovereignty, makes it far tougher to control the U.S Republic externally.

Time will tell on that subject, so I can wait and see what he does next to get it built.

He mentioned using money from the Defense/Military Budget.... Which would make more sense, since he has always claimed it is a part of our National security// our Defense.... And since Mexico isn't paying for it... then take the money out of the defense budget, which is humongous.... I suppose?

Trying to shift funds around without Congress would guarantee a legal battle................one that would drag out and he'd probably lose..................

He can shut down the border time and again..............and crush Mexico to help deal with it............and start dropping the hammer on businesses hiring illegals.......start massive raids there and the Butt Hurt would be off the charts.

sounds like a bunch of vindictive vengeful actions that are a waste of time and below us, as human beings...

outside of the part where businesses that hire illegals being caught and penalized, under the law.. that should have happened since Reagan's amnesty.

It is clear the establishment and Dems want an open border.............it is clear that these career politicians have talked about doing it for decades.........and have DONE NOTHING..........

Sometimes you have to force the issue..........The laws on the books ARE THE LAW.........and ICE can raid the living hell out of businesses and deport in mass VIA THE LAW..............the ones ignored for decades............If the Congress and Senate don't like it...........they need to fix it...........

It would cause your side to go even more postal than now..........Oh freaking well..........America wants the border secure and illegal immigration curtailed.........no matter what the talking heads of the MSM say.

off topic...
is a quick pull out from Syria a back stab to Israel?

 

[Darkwind]

they ***** slapped Donnieboi like a bastard stepchild.

Channeling your inner 12 year old?

pointing out the asswhipping Trump gave Pelosi and Schumer last week -

OH WAIT ...

Paul Ryan: Trump Won't Sign Spending Bill Meant To Avert Government Shutdown | HuffPost


Oh, wait.

 

[Darkwind]

Time will tell on that subject, so I can wait and see what he does next to get it built.

He mentioned using money from the Defense/Military Budget.... Which would make more sense, since he has always claimed it is a part of our National security// our Defense.... And since Mexico isn't paying for it... then take the money out of the defense budget, which is humongous.... I suppose?

Trying to shift funds around without Congress would guarantee a legal battle................one that would drag out and he'd probably lose..................

He can shut down the border time and again..............and crush Mexico to help deal with it............and start dropping the hammer on businesses hiring illegals.......start massive raids there and the Butt Hurt would be off the charts.

sounds like a bunch of vindictive vengeful actions that are a waste of time and below us, as human beings...

outside of the part where businesses that hire illegals being caught and penalized, under the law.. that should have happened since Reagan's amnesty.

It is clear the establishment and Dems want an open border.............it is clear that these career politicians have talked about doing it for decades.........and have DONE NOTHING..........

Sometimes you have to force the issue..........The laws on the books ARE THE LAW.........and ICE can raid the living hell out of businesses and deport in mass VIA THE LAW..............the ones ignored for decades............If the Congress and Senate don't like it...........they need to fix it...........

It would cause your side to go even more postal than now..........Oh freaking well..........America wants the border secure and illegal immigration curtailed.........no matter what the talking heads of the MSM say.

off topic...
is a quick pull out from Syria a back stab to Israel?

Not Isreal. Clearly a slap in the face to the Kurds who have been our most staunch allies in Syria

 

[eagle1462010]

Time will tell on that subject, so I can wait and see what he does next to get it built.

He mentioned using money from the Defense/Military Budget.... Which would make more sense, since he has always claimed it is a part of our National security// our Defense.... And since Mexico isn't paying for it... then take the money out of the defense budget, which is humongous.... I suppose?

Trying to shift funds around without Congress would guarantee a legal battle................one that would drag out and he'd probably lose..................

He can shut down the border time and again..............and crush Mexico to help deal with it............and start dropping the hammer on businesses hiring illegals.......start massive raids there and the Butt Hurt would be off the charts.

sounds like a bunch of vindictive vengeful actions that are a waste of time and below us, as human beings...

outside of the part where businesses that hire illegals being caught and penalized, under the law.. that should have happened since Reagan's amnesty.

It is clear the establishment and Dems want an open border.............it is clear that these career politicians have talked about doing it for decades.........and have DONE NOTHING..........

Sometimes you have to force the issue..........The laws on the books ARE THE LAW.........and ICE can raid the living hell out of businesses and deport in mass VIA THE LAW..............the ones ignored for decades............If the Congress and Senate don't like it...........they need to fix it...........

It would cause your side to go even more postal than now..........Oh freaking well..........America wants the border secure and illegal immigration curtailed.........no matter what the talking heads of the MSM say.

off topic...
is a quick pull out from Syria a back stab to Israel?

How the hell so..............Syria is degraded militarily............even with Iranian help Israel would wipe their asses out should they get stupid............

They will not cross that line and if they do they would regret it severely....................the Shia and Sunni Civil War will continue either way........just like it is getting brutal in Yemen with the Iran versus Saudi Arabia War there............a THEOLOGICAL WAR of the 12th Iman......

 

[eagle1462010]

He mentioned using money from the Defense/Military Budget.... Which would make more sense, since he has always claimed it is a part of our National security// our Defense.... And since Mexico isn't paying for it... then take the money out of the defense budget, which is humongous.... I suppose?

Trying to shift funds around without Congress would guarantee a legal battle................one that would drag out and he'd probably lose..................

He can shut down the border time and again..............and crush Mexico to help deal with it............and start dropping the hammer on businesses hiring illegals.......start massive raids there and the Butt Hurt would be off the charts.

sounds like a bunch of vindictive vengeful actions that are a waste of time and below us, as human beings...

outside of the part where businesses that hire illegals being caught and penalized, under the law.. that should have happened since Reagan's amnesty.

It is clear the establishment and Dems want an open border.............it is clear that these career politicians have talked about doing it for decades.........and have DONE NOTHING..........

Sometimes you have to force the issue..........The laws on the books ARE THE LAW.........and ICE can raid the living hell out of businesses and deport in mass VIA THE LAW..............the ones ignored for decades............If the Congress and Senate don't like it...........they need to fix it...........

It would cause your side to go even more postal than now..........Oh freaking well..........America wants the border secure and illegal immigration curtailed.........no matter what the talking heads of the MSM say.

off topic...
is a quick pull out from Syria a back stab to Israel?

Not Isreal. Clearly a slap in the face to the Kurds who have been our most staunch allies in Syria

And if we stay does it change the situation over the Kurds with Turkey...............We can only hope that Syria will be secular and not go postal over the Kurds..........and at the same time exert pressure against Turkey to not go in again and kill them..........with threats of removing their asses from NATO if necessary...........

This Civil War there will continue.......until they are tired of killing and/or dying from the Shia versus Sunni Situation.............

 

[Hutch Starskey]

As I figured, it won't happen now, as the Democrats won't buckle (and don't want permanent border security) and the GOP won't hold the line for the president to make sure it happens.

Oddly, of all the issues, this is probably the one that worries the global socialists the most. A wall ensures America maintains it's sovereignty, makes it far tougher to control the U.S Republic externally.

What's on the table for Dems?

 

[eagle1462010]

As I figured, it won't happen now, as the Democrats won't buckle (and don't want permanent border security) and the GOP won't hold the line for the president to make sure it happens.

Oddly, of all the issues, this is probably the one that worries the global socialists the most. A wall ensures America maintains it's sovereignty, makes it far tougher to control the U.S Republic externally.

What's on the table for Dems?

Nothing as usual...........except drooling over Mueller...........you have NO POLICY STANCES but BS............

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Why doesn’t the FACT that the majority of Americans.....especially those in border states....don't support the ******* wall....ever register with you idiots?

How do you intend to prevent further growth of the 20M+ illegal immigrants you have? How about the billions a year spent to give them welfare, educate their kids, give them healthcare?

Maybe America can triple it's debt and welcome another 25M, I doubt it though, unless you don't want a military.

You meant 40 million. We're doubling the number now, right?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Yes. We are losing more people than we are gaining from Mexico.

"Ilegals" don't get welfare. You have been duped. They pay into our entitlement programs but don't collect.

The impact on our economy from immigrants ( especially undocumented ) is POSITIVE.

70% are on welfare you doorknob....that's why they keep coming.

They should be easy to find and deport then. No?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

I think the economy would probably take a hard hit if 11 million people, who are both laborers(producers) and spenders, were to disappear all at once... especially in the States that have most of them...

the economy does't know their skin color, or what language they speak, legal or illegal... it runs without any consideration to those type things...

There are 22 million here now....when is enough enough?

FAIR’s report said illegal immigration costs about $135 billion a year, and that immigrants who are here illegally contribute about $19 billion in taxes annually. That puts net costs at about $116 billion a year.

Illegal immigration costs $130 billion a year?

It neglects to consider what their labor adds to the economy

So true. Their cheap labor creates higher profits that are spent on something else.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

As I figured, it won't happen now, as the Democrats won't buckle (and don't want permanent border security) and the GOP won't hold the line for the president to make sure it happens.

Oddly, of all the issues, this is probably the one that worries the global socialists the most. A wall ensures America maintains it's sovereignty, makes it far tougher to control the U.S Republic externally.

What's on the table for Dems?

Nothing as usual...........except drooling over Mueller...........you have NO POLICY STANCES but BS............

So why do you expect they should bail out Trump for nothing?

 

[eagle1462010]

As I figured, it won't happen now, as the Democrats won't buckle (and don't want permanent border security) and the GOP won't hold the line for the president to make sure it happens.

Oddly, of all the issues, this is probably the one that worries the global socialists the most. A wall ensures America maintains it's sovereignty, makes it far tougher to control the U.S Republic externally.

What's on the table for Dems?

Nothing as usual...........except drooling over Mueller...........you have NO POLICY STANCES but BS............

So why do you expect they should bail out Trump for nothing?

Bail out.............they offer nothing ...........where are all their GLORIOUS BILLS TO SAVE THE NATION...........NOTHING.........NADA...........

A party of NOTHING.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

As I figured, it won't happen now, as the Democrats won't buckle (and don't want permanent border security) and the GOP won't hold the line for the president to make sure it happens.

Oddly, of all the issues, this is probably the one that worries the global socialists the most. A wall ensures America maintains it's sovereignty, makes it far tougher to control the U.S Republic externally.

What's on the table for Dems?

Nothing as usual...........except drooling over Mueller...........you have NO POLICY STANCES but BS............

So why do you expect they should bail out Trump for nothing?

Bail out.............they offer nothing ...........where are all their GLORIOUS BILLS TO SAVE THE NATION...........NOTHING.........NADA...........

A party of NOTHING.

Yes, bail out.

Trump can't get wall funding without them.
What is Trump offering them to bail him out?

 

[eagle1462010]

As I figured, it won't happen now, as the Democrats won't buckle (and don't want permanent border security) and the GOP won't hold the line for the president to make sure it happens.

Oddly, of all the issues, this is probably the one that worries the global socialists the most. A wall ensures America maintains it's sovereignty, makes it far tougher to control the U.S Republic externally.

What's on the table for Dems?

Nothing as usual...........except drooling over Mueller...........you have NO POLICY STANCES but BS............

So why do you expect they should bail out Trump for nothing?

Bail out.............they offer nothing ...........where are all their GLORIOUS BILLS TO SAVE THE NATION...........NOTHING.........NADA...........

A party of NOTHING.

Yes, bail out.

Trump can't get wall funding without them.
What is Trump offering them to bail him out?

A GOV'T SHUTDOWN.............Schumer proposed a deal for DACA for the Wall funding........of course during the elections when he wanted to sound like he wanted border security.............LOL

Then withdrew it after it was accepted........

Trump needs to shut the gov't down until the funding goes........try to get 2/3rd's to overrule the veto...............

 

[Faun]

What's on the table for Dems?

Nothing as usual...........except drooling over Mueller...........you have NO POLICY STANCES but BS............

So why do you expect they should bail out Trump for nothing?

Bail out.............they offer nothing ...........where are all their GLORIOUS BILLS TO SAVE THE NATION...........NOTHING.........NADA...........

A party of NOTHING.

Yes, bail out.

Trump can't get wall funding without them.
What is Trump offering them to bail him out?

A GOV'T SHUTDOWN.............Schumer proposed a deal for DACA for the Wall funding........of course during the elections when he wanted to sound like he wanted border security.............LOL

Then withdrew it after it was accepted........

Trump needs to shut the gov't down until the funding goes........try to get 2/3rd's to overrule the veto...............

Good, shut ‘er down. Trump gets nothing he wants then.

 

[Care4all]

Schumer proposed a deal for DACA for the Wall funding........of course during the elections when he wanted to sound like he wanted border security.............LOL

Then withdrew it after it was accepted........

Schumer offered Trump a bi-partisan bill giving 25 billion for the wall/ for DACA, and president trump turned it down....

trump turned it down at the last debt raising crisis... schummer did not turn it down, the president did...

amazing by all these circuses,

NO ONE IS TALKING about the fact that once a year, we are having to RAISE our DEBT LIMIT because of all of their spending in this admin and congress....

BUT ON HOW we can RAISE it even more by adding 5 billion....

 

[Cellblock2429]

As I figured, it won't happen now, as the Democrats won't buckle (and don't want permanent border security) and the GOP won't hold the line for the president to make sure it happens.

Oddly, of all the issues, this is probably the one that worries the global socialists the most. A wall ensures America maintains it's sovereignty, makes it far tougher to control the U.S Republic externally.

/----/ My support for Trump has not wavered a bit. He won't give up on the wall. One way or the other - we will get one.

/——/ To the 4 libtards who marked my post FUNNY on Trump not giving up, Nancy Piglosi and the Dems In Congress caved and added 5.5 billion for the wall. The senate is next. Keep laughing you chuckleheads.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Why doesn’t the FACT that the majority of Americans.....especially those in border states....don't support the ******* wall....ever register with you idiots?

/——/ I don’t buy that for one moment. Post the link to the polls so I can check the demographics. Sounds like fake news.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

What's on the table for Dems?

Nothing as usual...........except drooling over Mueller...........you have NO POLICY STANCES but BS............

So why do you expect they should bail out Trump for nothing?

Bail out.............they offer nothing ...........where are all their GLORIOUS BILLS TO SAVE THE NATION...........NOTHING.........NADA...........

A party of NOTHING.

Yes, bail out.

Trump can't get wall funding without them.
What is Trump offering them to bail him out?

A GOV'T SHUTDOWN.............Schumer proposed a deal for DACA for the Wall funding........of course during the elections when he wanted to sound like he wanted border security.............LOL

Then withdrew it after it was accepted........

Trump needs to shut the gov't down until the funding goes........try to get 2/3rd's to overrule the veto...............

Again, what is Trump offering the Dems for their support on the wall?

Why do you believe they should do it for nothing when the president can't even get full Republican support?

 

[LoneLaugher]

Why doesn’t the FACT that the majority of Americans.....especially those in border states....don't support the ******* wall....ever register with you idiots?

/——/ I don’t buy that for one moment. Post the link to the polls so I can check the demographics. Sounds like fake news.

Most Voters Say ‘No’ To Border Wall - Rasmussen Reports®

Poll: Americans oppose Trump’s wall, easing regulations

Pew poll: Support for border wall with Mexico drops to ... 38/58

Poll: Americans oppose Trump border wall funding

Majority of U.S.-Mexico border residents don't want Donald Trump's wall