Remember when I said that if Trump didn't build the wall last budget it wouldn't happen?

[Marion Morrison]

Yes, there are many past laws that give authority to the President to fund repairing/maintaining current sections of 'fence' and make it a wall, and also to protect the USA from the incursions of Drug cartels.

Mattis needs an ultimatum....build the Wall or look for a new job. Be a hoot to see Pelousy or Cryin Chuck try to stop the Army Corps of Engineers slinging cement.

The people just might do it without the Federal government. If so, the government's role will most certainly be called into question.

Click here to support We The People Will Fund The Wall organized by The Wall Fundraising Team

 

[WillPower]

The people just might do it without the Federal government. If so, the government's role will most certainly be called into question.

Click here to support We The People Will Fund The Wall organized by The Wall Fundraising Team

A magnificent gesture....can GoFundMe handle $5B?

 

[LoneLaugher]

Yes. We are losing more people than we are gaining from Mexico.

"Ilegals" don't get welfare. You have been duped. They pay into our entitlement programs but don't collect.

The impact on our economy from immigrants ( especially undocumented ) is POSITIVE.

70% are on welfare you doorknob....that's why they keep coming.

Nope. Sorry you have been duped.

 

[Marion Morrison]

The people just might do it without the Federal government. If so, the government's role will most certainly be called into question.

Click here to support We The People Will Fund The Wall organized by The Wall Fundraising Team

A magnificent gesture....can GoFundMe handle $5B?

I think only $1B at a time. It's largely small donations thus far..

 

[rightwinger]

As I figured, it won't happen now, as the Democrats won't buckle (and don't want permanent border security) and the GOP won't hold the line for the president to make sure it happens.

Oddly, of all the issues, this is probably the one that worries the global socialists the most. A wall ensures America maintains it's sovereignty, makes it far tougher to control the U.S Republic externally.

Time will tell on that subject, so I can wait and see what he does next to get it built.

He mentioned using money from the Defense/Military Budget.... Which would make more sense, since he has always claimed it is a part of our National security// our Defense.... And since Mexico isn't paying for it... then take the money out of the defense budget, which is humongous.... I suppose?

Trying to shift funds around without Congress would guarantee a legal battle................one that would drag out and he'd probably lose..................

He can shut down the border time and again..............and crush Mexico to help deal with it............and start dropping the hammer on businesses hiring illegals.......start massive raids there and the Butt Hurt would be off the charts.

sounds like a bunch of vindictive vengeful actions that are a waste of time and below us, as human beings...

outside of the part where businesses that hire illegals being caught and penalized, under the law.. that should have happened since Reagan's amnesty.

Going after employers with actual jail time is money better spent than on a wall

 

[rightwinger]

I think the economy would probably take a hard hit if 11 million people, who are both laborers(producers) and spenders, were to disappear all at once... especially in the States that have most of them...

the economy does't know their skin color, or what language they speak, legal or illegal... it runs without any consideration to those type things...

There are 22 million here now....when is enough enough?

FAIR’s report said illegal immigration costs about $135 billion a year, and that immigrants who are here illegally contribute about $19 billion in taxes annually. That puts net costs at about $116 billion a year.

Illegal immigration costs $130 billion a year?

It neglects to consider what their labor adds to the economy

 

[WillPower]

It neglects to consider what their labor adds to the economy

Remittances back to Mehico don't help our economy.....Get tough with e-verify and tax the remits....of course neither party will do that because the GOPers want cheap labor and the Rats want votes....same old story for the last 30 years....makes me sick.

 

[rightwinger]

Trump lied and told his followers that he would begin building the wall on day 1

After two years of a Republican Congress he didn’t build a foot.
Now, it will not be done at all

 

[rightwinger]

It neglects to consider what their labor adds to the economy

Remittances back to Mehico don't help our economy.....Get tough with e-verify and tax the remits....of course neither party will do that because the GOPers want cheap labor and the Rats want votes....same old story for the last 30 years....makes me sick.

I don’t give a shit what they do with their money. They earned it and can flush it down the toilet if they want.

Both my grandparents were immigrants and they sent money home to their family who desperately needed it

 

[Cellblock2429]

As I figured, it won't happen now, as the Democrats won't buckle (and don't want permanent border security) and the GOP won't hold the line for the president to make sure it happens.

Oddly, of all the issues, this is probably the one that worries the global socialists the most. A wall ensures America maintains it's sovereignty, makes it far tougher to control the U.S Republic externally.

Time will tell on that subject, so I can wait and see what he does next to get it built.

He mentioned using money from the Defense/Military Budget.... Which would make more sense, since he has always claimed it is a part of our National security// our Defense.... And since Mexico isn't paying for it... then take the money out of the defense budget, which is humongous.... I suppose?

/——/ Maybe if we closed some outdated bases and cancelled as aircraft carrier we don’t need we could pay for the wall.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

As I figured, it won't happen now, as the Democrats won't buckle (and don't want permanent border security) and the GOP won't hold the line for the president to make sure it happens.

Oddly, of all the issues, this is probably the one that worries the global socialists the most. A wall ensures America maintains it's sovereignty, makes it far tougher to control the U.S Republic externally.

/----/ My support for Trump has not wavered a bit. He won't give up on the wall. One way or the other - we will get one.

You're probably right.

Lol

Clever

 

[Cellblock2429]

As I figured, it won't happen now, as the Democrats won't buckle (and don't want permanent border security) and the GOP won't hold the line for the president to make sure it happens.

Oddly, of all the issues, this is probably the one that worries the global socialists the most. A wall ensures America maintains it's sovereignty, makes it far tougher to control the U.S Republic externally.

/----/ My support for Trump has not wavered a bit. He won't give up on the wall. One way or the other - we will get one.

You're probably right.

/——/ Breaking News:
The White House said Thursday the government funding deal could be in doubt and President Trump "does not want to go further without border security."

 

[Care4all]

I think the economy would probably take a hard hit if 11 million people, who are both laborers(producers) and spenders, were to disappear all at once... especially in the States that have most of them...

the economy does't know their skin color, or what language they speak, legal or illegal... it runs without any consideration to those type things...

There are 22 million here now....when is enough enough?

FAIR’s report said illegal immigration costs about $135 billion a year, and that immigrants who are here illegally contribute about $19 billion in taxes annually. That puts net costs at about $116 billion a year.

Illegal immigration costs $130 billion a year?

your fact check link says that claim is

 

[English Mike]

Hi, sorry to come in late on this thread but I've only just seen it and would like to toss a few questions into the playpen if I may, bearing in mind we in England might not be getting the news in full from America.
1- Two years into Trump's presidency the wall still hasn't been built. Have the builders even made a start or what?
2- I hear the Democrats are trying to block everything he does, so is it possible that the wall hasn't been built yet because of them?
3- If it hasn't been built by 2020 will that finish his chances of being re-elected for a second term by an electorate who feel he let them down, or will they blame the Dems and carry on loving him to bits?

 

[WillPower]

I don’t give a shit what they do with their money. They earned it and can flush it down the toilet if they want.

Both my grandparents were immigrants and they sent money home to their family who desperately needed it

You made the claim they are "good for the economy" now you say you don't care if they are or not....they aren't...they drive down wages and suck up welfare....$100B a year..when was the last white guy you saw on a construction site that wasn't a foreman?

 

[Issa]

As I figured, it won't happen now, as the Democrats won't buckle (and don't want permanent border security) and the GOP won't hold the line for the president to make sure it happens.

Oddly, of all the issues, this is probably the one that worries the global socialists the most. A wall ensures America maintains it's sovereignty, makes it far tougher to control the U.S Republic externally.

/----/ My support for Trump has not wavered a bit. He won't give up on the wall. One way or the other - we will get one.

You don't have to tell us how much you have to lick his orange ass....where is the check from Mexico for the wall ?

 

[shockedcanadian]

As I figured, it won't happen now, as the Democrats won't buckle (and don't want permanent border security) and the GOP won't hold the line for the president to make sure it happens.

Oddly, of all the issues, this is probably the one that worries the global socialists the most. A wall ensures America maintains it's sovereignty, makes it far tougher to control the U.S Republic externally.

/----/ My support for Trump has not wavered a bit. He won't give up on the wall. One way or the other - we will get one.

You don't have to tell us how much you have to lick his orange ass....where is the check from Mexico for the wall ?

I don't want to beat a dead horse, but I suggest some looking at the USMCA. I assure you, Mexico is paying for it, and then some.

Now, you re right, we can split hairs. My personal opinion was, of all the big promises he mad, this specific details "they will pay for it", I personally gave leeway to in regards to how. I didn't think Mexico was going to cut a check.

 

[Issa]

As I figured, it won't happen now, as the Democrats won't buckle (and don't want permanent border security) and the GOP won't hold the line for the president to make sure it happens.

Oddly, of all the issues, this is probably the one that worries the global socialists the most. A wall ensures America maintains it's sovereignty, makes it far tougher to control the U.S Republic externally.

/----/ My support for Trump has not wavered a bit. He won't give up on the wall. One way or the other - we will get one.

You don't have to tell us how much you have to lick his orange ass....where is the check from Mexico for the wall ?

I don't want to beat a dead horse, but I suggest some looking at the USMCA. I assure you, Mexico is paying for it, and then some.

Now, you re right, we can split hairs. My personal opinion was, of all the big promises he mad, this specific details "they will pay for it", I personally gave leeway to in regards to how. I didn't think Mexico was going to cut a check.

He made it clear they would pay for it so none of us has to, and thousands dont have to miss their paycheck because of a government shutdown. He also said he is to blame for the shutdown.
This mess couldve been averted from the get go.

 

[eagle1462010]

As I figured, it won't happen now, as the Democrats won't buckle (and don't want permanent border security) and the GOP won't hold the line for the president to make sure it happens.

Oddly, of all the issues, this is probably the one that worries the global socialists the most. A wall ensures America maintains it's sovereignty, makes it far tougher to control the U.S Republic externally.

Time will tell on that subject, so I can wait and see what he does next to get it built.

He mentioned using money from the Defense/Military Budget.... Which would make more sense, since he has always claimed it is a part of our National security// our Defense.... And since Mexico isn't paying for it... then take the money out of the defense budget, which is humongous.... I suppose?

Trying to shift funds around without Congress would guarantee a legal battle................one that would drag out and he'd probably lose..................

He can shut down the border time and again..............and crush Mexico to help deal with it............and start dropping the hammer on businesses hiring illegals.......start massive raids there and the Butt Hurt would be off the charts.

sounds like a bunch of vindictive vengeful actions that are a waste of time and below us, as human beings...

outside of the part where businesses that hire illegals being caught and penalized, under the law.. that should have happened since Reagan's amnesty.

It is clear the establishment and Dems want an open border.............it is clear that these career politicians have talked about doing it for decades.........and have DONE NOTHING..........

Sometimes you have to force the issue..........The laws on the books ARE THE LAW.........and ICE can raid the living hell out of businesses and deport in mass VIA THE LAW..............the ones ignored for decades............If the Congress and Senate don't like it...........they need to fix it...........

It would cause your side to go even more postal than now..........Oh freaking well..........America wants the border secure and illegal immigration curtailed.........no matter what the talking heads of the MSM say.

 

[eagle1462010]

1- Two years into Trump's presidency the wall still hasn't been built. Have the builders even made a start or what?

Only upgrades to small areas have been done so far........The Congress have refused to give the money needed.......and have only allowed about 3.5 Billion or so for upgrades and some new walls...........They denied the request to hire more Court personnel to help speed up the process........So........in a Nut shell they have denied the Wall to this point.

2- I hear the Democrats are trying to block everything he does, so is it possible that the wall hasn't been built yet because of them?

Both sides are beholding to the Chamber of Commerce and want cheap labor........whether it be in agriculture or slaughter houses........they can pay below the prevailing wages and OSHA standards for illegals to maximize their profits by NOT FOLLOWING THE LAW..........Which is why establishment GOP members Lie their butt off at election about it then ditch it............The Dems want the illegal votes even though they say they don't vote........which is BS and why the California Drivers License was being rejected for air travel until recently..........They give out Drivers licenses to illegal aliens..........it's ridiculous.

Under the Dept of Labor those in the agriculture business are required by law to go through that department to get seasonal workers........pay them required wages, provide food, shelter, and transportation to that labor force...........but these farmers who are very large don't want to follow the laws as it's cheaper to hire the illegals.

3- If it hasn't been built by 2020 will that finish his chances of being re-elected for a second term by an electorate who feel he let them down, or will they blame the Dems and carry on loving him to bits?

He doesn't fight for the Wall he's DONE..........in 2020........