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Remember the outrage over gay wedding cakes? Bakers refused to make pro-Trump birthday cake
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Who has those different set of standards? Name the bakeries that have those different sets of standards, Allie.It's almost like the marxists and anti-Christian loons have a different set of standards for themselves.
Go figure.
iceberg
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we need to fight for the things worth fighting for.We need to fight for the right things.not me. i hope nothing happens to them.I hope they lose their business license.
nothing should have happened to the ones who didn't want to participate in the gay wedding.
people have their choices and we should respect that when we can. not get mad and demand OUR ways are taken into account but no one elses.
we need to stop making everything a fight.
But we have to know that we defeat ourselves when we engage in the same behavior our enemies engaged in, and we protested. I deal with this a lot when I interact with people who have been targeted and harassed by the federal brownshirts that stomp across our public lands. You don't counter that by demanding that the brownshirts harass OTHER people....
forcing people to make or not make cakes - really? this is what we want to be known for 100 years when they look back?
100 years ago we were in WWI and discovering how to mass produce cars.
now we don't know where to pee and we must make cakes. maybe.
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Here is another one that I like .....Imagine the day when a kid is denied a designed cake of the president of the United States. Forget the business absurdity of this, but how does a Snowflake explain to their friends, family and kids that they didn't have the courage to make a cake of a politician they didn't like, never less their president?
Let's hope when a life and death situation arises, your only hope of being saved doesn't rest on the shoulders of such a creampuff Snowflake baker.
If I were the kids parents, I would have the cake made by someone with the, gasp, "courage", to make such a cake and then stand a few feet from his business and offer free cake to passerbyers while advertising the place that designed it.
TheDude
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First off, most "liberals" are hypocrites, dumb & foolish. Generally they don't speak for themselves, they adopt & tune narratives.
When we were a smarter & less corrupt people, we, "the bakers", simply refused service which is our right. You don't have to say why. But LGBT agenda is doing their part to dumb us down, so they made an issue of cakes and flowers. That's irony man.
If a baker chooses to make a cake, then they have every right to say "fuck off, I'm not decorating as requested. They can be honest and say, "I'm not entertaining your mockery of sound principles by planting two grooms on a cake." Or "I choose not to do this based on my religious beliefs." If the customer doesn't like it, fuck off. Find someone else.
Same thing applies to dudes using the women's bathroom. If you're a 1/10,000, you can get by using the women's bathroom and probably belong there. No harm no foul. If you're the other 9,999/10,000, then use the women's bathroom if you like. But expect to have women in your face for it, and expect some time in jail.
When we were a smarter & less corrupt people, we, "the bakers", simply refused service which is our right. You don't have to say why. But LGBT agenda is doing their part to dumb us down, so they made an issue of cakes and flowers. That's irony man.
If a baker chooses to make a cake, then they have every right to say "fuck off, I'm not decorating as requested. They can be honest and say, "I'm not entertaining your mockery of sound principles by planting two grooms on a cake." Or "I choose not to do this based on my religious beliefs." If the customer doesn't like it, fuck off. Find someone else.
Same thing applies to dudes using the women's bathroom. If you're a 1/10,000, you can get by using the women's bathroom and probably belong there. No harm no foul. If you're the other 9,999/10,000, then use the women's bathroom if you like. But expect to have women in your face for it, and expect some time in jail.
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To answer the question: "Shouild bakers be forced to sell cakes for issues they don't like?"
The didn't refuse an issue, they refused customers based on who the customers were. Under State law in 21 places of public accommodation (i.e. for profit businesses) cannot refuse service to customers based on a variety of factors including (varies by state) race, religion, sex, age, ethnicity, national origin, marital status, veterans status and sexual orientation.
Before you make any assumptions I support the repeal of Public Accommodation laws as applied to private business so that owners can refuse service based on any criteria they choose including race, religion, sex, age, ethnicity, national origin, marital status, veterans status and sexual orientation. Let the market determine if they succeed or fail. Along with that though goes the ability of those discriminated against to make such discrimination public.
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Per your actical, you would think that the general counsel of the Alliance Defending Freedom would know that sexual orienation was covered under state law, political parties are not covered under State Public Accommodation laws.
"Michael P. Farris is president, CEO and general counsel of the Alliance Defending Freedom, the Christian legal group defending Jack Phillips, a Colorado baker who was sued by a gay couple for declining to make their same-sex wedding cake.
Mr. Farris wondered why bakers are allowed to decline to make birthday cakes supporting Mr. Trump, but not wedding cakes supporting same-sex marriage."
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/----/ Well to test your theory then the mother should have ordered a standard birthday cake with Happy Birthday Hillary.
I don't see what theory of mine that would test.
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Does Mr Farris know what bakeries refused to make trump kakes?>
To answer the question: "Shouild bakers be forced to sell cakes for issues they don't like?"
The didn't refuse an issue, they refused customers based on who the customers were. Under State law in 21 places of public accommodation (i.e. for profit businesses) cannot refuse service to customers based on a variety of factors including (varies by state) race, religion, sex, age, ethnicity, national origin, marital status, veterans status and sexual orientation.
Before you make any assumptions I support the repeal of Public Accommodation laws as applied to private business so that owners can refuse service based on any criteria they choose including race, religion, sex, age, ethnicity, national origin, marital status, veterans status and sexual orientation. Let the market determine if they succeed or fail. Along with that though goes the ability of those discriminated against to make such discrimination public.
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Per your actical, you would think that the general counsel of the Alliance Defending Freedom would know that sexual orienation was covered under state law, political parties are not covered under State Public Accommodation laws.
"Michael P. Farris is president, CEO and general counsel of the Alliance Defending Freedom, the Christian legal group defending Jack Phillips, a Colorado baker who was sued by a gay couple for declining to make their same-sex wedding cake.
Mr. Farris wondered why bakers are allowed to decline to make birthday cakes supporting Mr. Trump, but not wedding cakes supporting same-sex marriage."
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A birthday wish for Carmen..........
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Don't forget the orange cheeto dust all over it.
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Looks like another fail thread about conservative kakes......
The VOR
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No, because it is a bullshit story meant to fire up the trump nutters.Does Mr Farris know what bakeries refused to make trump kakes?>
To answer the question: "Shouild bakers be forced to sell cakes for issues they don't like?"
The didn't refuse an issue, they refused customers based on who the customers were. Under State law in 21 places of public accommodation (i.e. for profit businesses) cannot refuse service to customers based on a variety of factors including (varies by state) race, religion, sex, age, ethnicity, national origin, marital status, veterans status and sexual orientation.
Before you make any assumptions I support the repeal of Public Accommodation laws as applied to private business so that owners can refuse service based on any criteria they choose including race, religion, sex, age, ethnicity, national origin, marital status, veterans status and sexual orientation. Let the market determine if they succeed or fail. Along with that though goes the ability of those discriminated against to make such discrimination public.
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Per your actical, you would think that the general counsel of the Alliance Defending Freedom would know that sexual orienation was covered under state law, political parties are not covered under State Public Accommodation laws.
"Michael P. Farris is president, CEO and general counsel of the Alliance Defending Freedom, the Christian legal group defending Jack Phillips, a Colorado baker who was sued by a gay couple for declining to make their same-sex wedding cake.
Mr. Farris wondered why bakers are allowed to decline to make birthday cakes supporting Mr. Trump, but not wedding cakes supporting same-sex marriage."
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No, because it is a bullshit story meant to fire up the trump nutters.Does Mr Farris know what bakeries refused to make trump kakes?>
To answer the question: "Shouild bakers be forced to sell cakes for issues they don't like?"
The didn't refuse an issue, they refused customers based on who the customers were. Under State law in 21 places of public accommodation (i.e. for profit businesses) cannot refuse service to customers based on a variety of factors including (varies by state) race, religion, sex, age, ethnicity, national origin, marital status, veterans status and sexual orientation.
Before you make any assumptions I support the repeal of Public Accommodation laws as applied to private business so that owners can refuse service based on any criteria they choose including race, religion, sex, age, ethnicity, national origin, marital status, veterans status and sexual orientation. Let the market determine if they succeed or fail. Along with that though goes the ability of those discriminated against to make such discrimination public.
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Per your actical, you would think that the general counsel of the Alliance Defending Freedom would know that sexual orienation was covered under state law, political parties are not covered under State Public Accommodation laws.
"Michael P. Farris is president, CEO and general counsel of the Alliance Defending Freedom, the Christian legal group defending Jack Phillips, a Colorado baker who was sued by a gay couple for declining to make their same-sex wedding cake.
Mr. Farris wondered why bakers are allowed to decline to make birthday cakes supporting Mr. Trump, but not wedding cakes supporting same-sex marriage."
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I didn't even need to read the article to have an opinion. Unless something is extremely offensive, hateful or anti-American, I would back any bloody cake you want. Why in the hell would I open up a baking business if I am interesting in turning business away? To me it's half comical, half ridiculous.
Now if they don't want to bake it, fine, don't bake it, your choice. I think in the end it's bad for business and illustrates how petty some people are, and it's not just one business. You don't have to worry about China stealing your jobs when you operate with a premise of looking for reasons to lose business.
NYcarbineer
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If those bakers bake similar cakes but refused the Trump cake in particular then they probably broke the law.
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