Remember that whole Greenland thing?

Well it is a great source fresh ice and water. Don't we already have a strategic partnership?
 
They don't want us to take them over. They don't like us. Our former friends in Canada are now aligning with our former friends in Europe. They don't care much for us, either.

Shouldn't that just take this idea off the table?
Irrelevant to the big picture. It is a matter of harsh realities, not feelings. Neither Canada or Denmark can defend their Arctic claims on their own. The Arctic is an ever growing flash point. We also have security and economic interest in those claims.
 
I've seen a couple of stories recently about how China is more liked and trusted globally than we are now.

Trump would have to take Canada and/or Greenland by some kind of force, like the military, sabotage or blackmail.

And the rubes? They have no problem. They're either useful idiots or fascists themselves.

And who's hiding from all of it? Congressional Republicans.

The world has seen this all before.
This is the issue...

China is more dependable... We know they don't give much for human rights and will steal your IP... China is up for China....

MAGA is not to be trusted. Their word means nothing, they are the creeps of International Politics... They hate anyone who is happy, they see them as robbing them for some reason...

MAGA live off Fear and Ignorance... That is what they want the supporters to be and they also want everyone else to be like them too... Just look at Vaccines, a great example of fear and ignorance taking hold, if you want to see enlightenment, lookout CDC excess deaths and compare areas with high COVID vaccine rates compared to low vaccine rates... MAGA have to have everyone ignorant of those actual numbers, even if they see them they have to call them lies.
 
This is the issue...

China is more dependable... We know they don't give much for human rights and will steal your IP... China is up for China....

MAGA is not to be trusted. Their word means nothing, they are the creeps of International Politics... They hate anyone who is happy, they see them as robbing them for some reason...

MAGA live off Fear and Ignorance... That is what they want the supporters to be and they also want everyone else to be like them too... Just look at Vaccines, a great example of fear and ignorance taking hold, if you want to see enlightenment, lookout CDC excess deaths and compare areas with high COVID vaccine rates compared to low vaccine rates... MAGA have to have everyone ignorant of those actual numbers, even if they see them they have to call them lies.
I don't recall ever seeing a country's global reputation go down the shitter in a matter of weeks like this. 80 years of building it, gone. And from what I can tell, MAGA and Trump still think that we're adored and respected worldwide.

Look at some of these responses. They're fine with just taking over against another country's will. I have to read the posts twice to make sure I saw it right. And then they claim they're not what they're being called.
 
So it's not over. It appears we're working behind the scenes to gain covert influence there.

Denmark summons US envoy over claims of interference in Greenland

Perhaps we can just cut to the chase here: Is there anyone who is willing to defend/discuss why we need to expand to all of North America?
Because it's where we live.
Do we really need more living space, known long ago as Lebensraum? Or are we just planning to take over these countries without their approval to get our hands on their natural resources, as is currently happening in Europe?

Is there anyone who'd like to enlighten us on these questions, specifically and honestly?
Why does Denmark own Greenland?
 
I've seen a couple of stories recently about how China is more liked and trusted globally than we are now.
That's a damn good indication you need to change the media you consume
 
I don't recall ever seeing a country's global reputation go down the shitter in a matter of weeks like this. 80 years of building it, gone. And from what I can tell, MAGA and Trump still think that we're adored and respected worldwide.
Perhaps because every world leader is coming to the WH and sucking his dick?
 
This has been pretty interesting.

Aside from the standard fluff responses, it appears they're okay with just taking over other countries without the approval of those countries. We just move in and take it over, and we have the military in case there is an issue. Tough shit.

Echoes of history. What the hell happened to us?
Nothing happened to us. The experiment failed. The idea that cooperation and interdependence would overcome self interest never materialized. Whether it was our so-called allies stabbing us in the back on the Food for Oil deal, not maintaining agreed upon NATO funding and arsenals, all the way back to the Suez Crisis. You folks have selective memories on certain things. Echoes of history indeed, our allies using us and screwing us over.
 
Nothing happened to us. The experiment failed. The idea that cooperation and interdependence would overcome self interest never materialized. Whether it was our so-called allies stabbing us in the back on the Food for Oil deal, not maintaining agreed upon NATO funding and arsenals, all the way back to the Suez Crisis. You folks have selective memories on certain things. Echoes of history indeed, our allies using us and screwing us over.
Sad how their hatred for Trump morphs into disdain for our country.
 
Aren’t you nose-ringers supportive of the reconquista? You don’t really care that Mexico has passively invaded the U.S. and forced an unauthorized, illegal, inorganic and unwanted demography change.
It’s kind of hard to take you seriously.
Trump is a fascist, this is what fascists do, engage in criminal attempts to occupy sovereign territory.
 
They don't want us to take them over. They don't like us. Our former friends in Canada are now aligning with our former friends in Europe. They don't care much for us, either.

Shouldn't that just take this idea off the table?

Oh, let me guess! They 'liked' us when Bidumb was in office but not now that Trump is in office?? AMIRIGHT????

Why do you have the child like concern that other countries 'like' us? Is that some new foreign policy marker that we must meet in order to have your approval? 🤡
 
This has been pretty interesting.

Aside from the standard fluff responses, it appears they're okay with just taking over other countries without the approval of those countries. We just move in and take it over, and we have the military in case there is an issue. Tough shit.

Echoes of history. What the hell happened to us?

Really, why don't you give us the stats, how many people responded to this thread, and how many of those made the comment that you're claiming above? Who is 'they'?
 
Sad how their hatred for Trump morphs into disdain for our country.

I think it's the other way around, they have disdain for the country so if someone is in office that's trying to better it instead of destroying it, they hate and have disdain for that person.
 
Mac never has the balls to answer any questions. :dunno:
 
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Annexing Greenland would change the game regarding control of the Arctic region and the North Atlantic.

Personally, I'd be happy to see that unfold, if... IF... Greenlanders were willing to "cut a deal" and become citizens.

I would not want it to be forced, and it's not the end-of-the-world if we can't make a deal.

Given that the bidirectional money-flow between Greenland and Denmark is minimal... a drop in the bucket...

I don't think that either party would "lose" much of anything by Greenland changing Mother Countries...

But... we would have to "sweeten the pot" enough in order to obtain their ( Greenlanders and Danes ) assent...

Working behind-the-scenes a bit to try to convince Greenlanders to come on-board isn't a bad thing in its own right...

But, as with most things, the devil's in the details and I'd have to know WHAT our people have been "up-to"...

Perhaps then I could offer-up a sensible judgment as to whether or not we're behaving ethically...
I do find it interesting that they're making some of the same justifications that Putin is for Ukraine.

Evidently this is who they've always been. We're becoming the bad guys now.
 
I think it's the other way around, they have disdain for the country so if someone is in office that's trying to better it instead of destroying it, they hate and have disdain for that person.
Interesting way to look at it. I guess I give them more credit.
 
I do find it interesting that they're making some of the same justifications that Putin is for Ukraine.
A land-grab is a land-grab... no matter who does it... good guys... bad guys... and everybody in-between...
Evidently this is who they've always been.
Who?
We're becoming the bad guys now.
Not unless we start sabotaging their society or infrastructure or actually invade...

Until then, we can rightfully defend against any-such label...

I don't think that the US running an open advertising campaign encouraging Greenlanders to join us is bad in any way...

Invading them or interfering with their internal governance (such as it is) would be another matter...
 
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