Religious freedom wins again.

[Lysistrata]

It doesn't matter what church they attend. YOU can't force them to do what you want. Suck on that.

Only if it's a church that is recognized by government. Which is funny, because it turns the First Amendment inside out and has government telling us which religions are "real" and which aren't.

I remember when Dubya said that Wicca was not a religion.

Wiccans and Pagans in the United States military - Wikipedia

Dubya: guilty.

So what. FYI, wiki is strictly for amateurs. It's not a secure site and can be edited by anyone. Only ignorant lazy people use wiki.

How about the LA times. Wiki sites have many footnotes, you are encouraged and free to follow them. this is what I found just following one footnote from the WIKI article:


Retired U.S. Army Major Michelle Boshears—herself a Green Craft Wiccan—says those numbers reflect only active duty military who claim Paganism as their religion on official forms. When Boshears served 15 years ago, the only option for Pagans was to mark “No Preference” or “Other.” For that reason, she estimates that the numbers of Pagans in uniform could be closer to 20,000.
The Plight of Pagans in the Military | Religion & Politics

See, this is why you're dumber than an empty box of Post Toasties. You're a pagan.

If she is Pagan, she has every right to her choice of faith. The government should not be in the business of promoting any particular faith or spending our money on any such promotion. What do you think of the government promoting your faith (if you have one) or any other?

 

[dblack]

Only if it's a church that is recognized by government. Which is funny, because it turns the First Amendment inside out and has government telling us which religions are "real" and which aren't.

I remember when Dubya said that Wicca was not a religion.

Wiccans and Pagans in the United States military - Wikipedia

Dubya: guilty.

So what. FYI, wiki is strictly for amateurs. It's not a secure site and can be edited by anyone. Only ignorant lazy people use wiki.

How about the LA times. Wiki sites have many footnotes, you are encouraged and free to follow them. this is what I found just following one footnote from the WIKI article:


Retired U.S. Army Major Michelle Boshears—herself a Green Craft Wiccan—says those numbers reflect only active duty military who claim Paganism as their religion on official forms. When Boshears served 15 years ago, the only option for Pagans was to mark “No Preference” or “Other.” For that reason, she estimates that the numbers of Pagans in uniform could be closer to 20,000.
The Plight of Pagans in the Military | Religion & Politics

See, this is why you're dumber than an empty box of Post Toasties. You're a pagan.

Isn't being a pagan a form of religious freedom?

Of course it is. But we're talking about the inverted form of the First Amendment, where it's used to give special perks to religious people. We can't be giving out perks to any and every fantasy that someone calls a "religion". Otherwise you could just make up your own religion to get the special rights. Ultimately, the government has to decide which religions are legitimate and which aren't.

 

[dblack]

Only if it's a church that is recognized by government. Which is funny, because it turns the First Amendment inside out and has government telling us which religions are "real" and which aren't.

I remember when Dubya said that Wicca was not a religion.

Wiccans and Pagans in the United States military - Wikipedia

Dubya: guilty.

So what. FYI, wiki is strictly for amateurs. It's not a secure site and can be edited by anyone. Only ignorant lazy people use wiki.

How about the LA times. Wiki sites have many footnotes, you are encouraged and free to follow them. this is what I found just following one footnote from the WIKI article:


Retired U.S. Army Major Michelle Boshears—herself a Green Craft Wiccan—says those numbers reflect only active duty military who claim Paganism as their religion on official forms. When Boshears served 15 years ago, the only option for Pagans was to mark “No Preference” or “Other.” For that reason, she estimates that the numbers of Pagans in uniform could be closer to 20,000.
The Plight of Pagans in the Military | Religion & Politics

See, this is why you're dumber than an empty box of Post Toasties. You're a pagan.

If she is Pagan, she has every right to her choice of faith. The government should not be in the business of promoting any particular faith or spending our money on any such promotion. What do you think of the government promoting your faith (if you have one) or any other?

If we're going to interpret the First Amendment as an legal exemption for religious people, an excuse for them to skip out on laws that conflict with their beliefs, then the Court needs to make the call regarding which religions are legitimate, and which aren't.

 

[Lysistrata]

It is never the business of government to define what is a "legitimate" religion.

 

[BS Filter]

Only if it's a church that is recognized by government. Which is funny, because it turns the First Amendment inside out and has government telling us which religions are "real" and which aren't.

I remember when Dubya said that Wicca was not a religion.

Wiccans and Pagans in the United States military - Wikipedia

Dubya: guilty.

So what. FYI, wiki is strictly for amateurs. It's not a secure site and can be edited by anyone. Only ignorant lazy people use wiki.

How about the LA times. Wiki sites have many footnotes, you are encouraged and free to follow them. this is what I found just following one footnote from the WIKI article:


Retired U.S. Army Major Michelle Boshears—herself a Green Craft Wiccan—says those numbers reflect only active duty military who claim Paganism as their religion on official forms. When Boshears served 15 years ago, the only option for Pagans was to mark “No Preference” or “Other.” For that reason, she estimates that the numbers of Pagans in uniform could be closer to 20,000.
The Plight of Pagans in the Military | Religion & Politics

See, this is why you're dumber than an empty box of Post Toasties. You're a pagan.

If she is Pagan, she has every right to her choice of faith. The government should not be in the business of promoting any particular faith or spending our money on any such promotion. What do you think of the government promoting your faith (if you have one) or any other?

Of course she has the right to her choice of faith, never said she didn't. What do you mean by "promoting"? Everyone should have the right to practice their religion, regardless of where they do it as long as it is not forced on anyone or interferes in anyone's life. The problem is that too many people in the USA these days want to restrict Christians, but have no problem with every other idiot promoting their idiotic beliefs.

 

[dblack]

It is never the business of government to define what is a "legitimate" religion.

But it's unavoidable if we take the First Amendment as a special right for religious people only.

 

[Lysistrata]

It is never the business of government to define what is a "legitimate" religion.

But it's unavoidable if we take the First Amendment as a special right for religious people only.

The right to choose our faith or to choose not to have one belongs to all of us. The clowns who embrace this sort of shit are the same ones who ran around claiming that LGBTs were not entitled to "special rights."

 

[dblack]

It is never the business of government to define what is a "legitimate" religion.

But it's unavoidable if we take the First Amendment as a special right for religious people only.

The right to choose our faith or to choose not to have one belongs to all of us.

Yes, and that right exists independent of the First Amendment. The First Amendment doesn't grant any rights or privileges. It merely prohibits the government from passing laws that violate religious freedom.

The clowns who embrace this sort of shit are the same ones who ran around claiming that LGBTs were not entitled to "special rights."

What do you mean? Do you think LGBTs are entitled to special rights? Do you think religious people are entitled to special rights?

 

[mdk]

Special rights for me, but not for thee.

 

[BS Filter]

It is never the business of government to define what is a "legitimate" religion.

But it's unavoidable if we take the First Amendment as a special right for religious people only.

The right to choose our faith or to choose not to have one belongs to all of us. The clowns who embrace this sort of shit are the same ones who ran around claiming that LGBTs were not entitled to "special rights."

Perverts aren't entitled to special rights. You don't earn a right simply because you choose to practice weird sex.

 

[BreezeWood]

And if they don't want to serve blacks? You would appear to be fine with that.

That's why most people are disgusted by your attitude.

You're confused. Being black isn't a sin according to Christianity. Sexual perversion is, and American citizens have the Constitutional right to refuse to accommodate sinful behavior, and the right to refuse a demand to create something that violates their conscience. Suck on that.

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You're confused. Being black isn't a sin according to Christianity.

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your a joke ...

You're stupid. The KKK isn't Christian. Idiot. Next thing you'll tell me is Hitler was a Christian.

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You're stupid. The KKK isn't Christian. Idiot. Next thing you'll tell me is Hitler was a Christian.

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the bible belt is the heart of your christian religion ... in open display.

Germany was a christian nation - how about italy, the muslims put mussolini in power.

Pictures are useful propaganda. Many people claim to be Christian, doesn't mean they are. Christians aren't the problem in this world.

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Pictures are useful propaganda. Many people claim to be Christian, doesn't mean they are. Christians aren't the problem in this world.

uninterrupted throughout history the forged christian bible has been a primary source of evil for whichever society's ardent supporters have adopted it as their religion. refusing to remove the augmented text that inevitably leads to depravity as is the same for all three desert religions.

 

[dblack]

It is never the business of government to define what is a "legitimate" religion.

But it's unavoidable if we take the First Amendment as a special right for religious people only.

The right to choose our faith or to choose not to have one belongs to all of us. The clowns who embrace this sort of shit are the same ones who ran around claiming that LGBTs were not entitled to "special rights."

Perverts aren't entitled to special rights. You don't earn a right simply because you choose to practice weird sex.

Do religious people earn special rights simply because they worship a god?

 

[diver52]

I remember when Dubya said that Wicca was not a religion.

Wiccans and Pagans in the United States military - Wikipedia

Dubya: guilty.

So what. FYI, wiki is strictly for amateurs. It's not a secure site and can be edited by anyone. Only ignorant lazy people use wiki.

How about the LA times. Wiki sites have many footnotes, you are encouraged and free to follow them. this is what I found just following one footnote from the WIKI article:


Retired U.S. Army Major Michelle Boshears—herself a Green Craft Wiccan—says those numbers reflect only active duty military who claim Paganism as their religion on official forms. When Boshears served 15 years ago, the only option for Pagans was to mark “No Preference” or “Other.” For that reason, she estimates that the numbers of Pagans in uniform could be closer to 20,000.
The Plight of Pagans in the Military | Religion & Politics

See, this is why you're dumber than an empty box of Post Toasties. You're a pagan.

Isn't being a pagan a form of religious freedom?

Of course it is. But we're talking about the inverted form of the First Amendment, where it's used to give special perks to religious people. We can't be giving out perks to any and every fantasy that someone calls a "religion". Otherwise you could just make up your own religion to get the special rights. Ultimately, the government has to decide which religions are legitimate and which aren't.

Then the government should not be giving out special perks to anyone. It should not be the place of the government to determine what is or is not a legitimate religion.

 

[Lysistrata]

I remember when Dubya said that Wicca was not a religion.

Wiccans and Pagans in the United States military - Wikipedia

Dubya: guilty.

So what. FYI, wiki is strictly for amateurs. It's not a secure site and can be edited by anyone. Only ignorant lazy people use wiki.

How about the LA times. Wiki sites have many footnotes, you are encouraged and free to follow them. this is what I found just following one footnote from the WIKI article:


Retired U.S. Army Major Michelle Boshears—herself a Green Craft Wiccan—says those numbers reflect only active duty military who claim Paganism as their religion on official forms. When Boshears served 15 years ago, the only option for Pagans was to mark “No Preference” or “Other.” For that reason, she estimates that the numbers of Pagans in uniform could be closer to 20,000.
The Plight of Pagans in the Military | Religion & Politics

See, this is why you're dumber than an empty box of Post Toasties. You're a pagan.

If she is Pagan, she has every right to her choice of faith. The government should not be in the business of promoting any particular faith or spending our money on any such promotion. What do you think of the government promoting your faith (if you have one) or any other?

Of course she has the right to her choice of faith, never said she didn't. What do you mean by "promoting"? Everyone should have the right to practice their religion, regardless of where they do it as long as it is not forced on anyone or interferes in anyone's life. The problem is that too many people in the USA these days want to restrict Christians, but have no problem with every other idiot promoting their idiotic beliefs.

Who is restricting the Christian sects? BTW: not all Christians are the the same; Please identify your self and your sect;. Are you in an anti-LGBT sect? A sect that is patriarchal and centered on the worship of the penis?

 

[diver52]

It doesn't matter what church they attend. YOU can't force them to do what you want. Suck on that.

And if they don't want to serve blacks? You would appear to be fine with that.

That's why most people are disgusted by your attitude.

If a business doesn't want to serve someone they should not have to do so. The idea that the government can change attitudes simply does not work. It just pushes the problem underground and creates resentment. A far better solution would be for a business to post on their window who they won't serve. Then let the market modify attitudes.

We now have businesses that will not serve certain people because of their politics, and the left supports it. Hypocritical moonbats.

Do you support the right of those businesses to not serve people on the basis of politics?

 

[dblack]

It doesn't matter what church they attend. YOU can't force them to do what you want. Suck on that.

And if they don't want to serve blacks? You would appear to be fine with that.

That's why most people are disgusted by your attitude.

If a business doesn't want to serve someone they should not have to do so. The idea that the government can change attitudes simply does not work. It just pushes the problem underground and creates resentment. A far better solution would be for a business to post on their window who they won't serve. Then let the market modify attitudes.

We now have businesses that will not serve certain people because of their politics, and the left supports it. Hypocritical moonbats.

Do you support the right of those businesses to not serve people on the basis of politics?

People should be free to decide who they work with or for, without justifying their reasons to the state.

 

[diver52]

It doesn't matter what church they attend. YOU can't force them to do what you want. Suck on that.

And if they don't want to serve blacks? You would appear to be fine with that.

That's why most people are disgusted by your attitude.

If a business doesn't want to serve someone they should not have to do so. The idea that the government can change attitudes simply does not work. It just pushes the problem underground and creates resentment. A far better solution would be for a business to post on their window who they won't serve. Then let the market modify attitudes.

We now have businesses that will not serve certain people because of their politics, and the left supports it. Hypocritical moonbats.

Do you support the right of those businesses to not serve people on the basis of politics?

People should be free to decide who they work with or for, without justifying their reasons to the state.

Exactly. Otherwise you have the state deciding what is or is not acceptable thoughts. If a Christian baker has to make a cake for a gay wedding, regardless of his/her personal beliefs, then a Jewish baker has to make a cake for the local Nazis. Otherwise, we place in the hands of the state the right to tell us what we can or cannot believe. If you don't like the policies of a shop owner, then don't shop there. If enough people agree, then that owner will either change those policies or go out of business. But the government should not be involved.

 

[BS Filter]

So what. FYI, wiki is strictly for amateurs. It's not a secure site and can be edited by anyone. Only ignorant lazy people use wiki.

How about the LA times. Wiki sites have many footnotes, you are encouraged and free to follow them. this is what I found just following one footnote from the WIKI article:


Retired U.S. Army Major Michelle Boshears—herself a Green Craft Wiccan—says those numbers reflect only active duty military who claim Paganism as their religion on official forms. When Boshears served 15 years ago, the only option for Pagans was to mark “No Preference” or “Other.” For that reason, she estimates that the numbers of Pagans in uniform could be closer to 20,000.
The Plight of Pagans in the Military | Religion & Politics

See, this is why you're dumber than an empty box of Post Toasties. You're a pagan.

If she is Pagan, she has every right to her choice of faith. The government should not be in the business of promoting any particular faith or spending our money on any such promotion. What do you think of the government promoting your faith (if you have one) or any other?

Of course she has the right to her choice of faith, never said she didn't. What do you mean by "promoting"? Everyone should have the right to practice their religion, regardless of where they do it as long as it is not forced on anyone or interferes in anyone's life. The problem is that too many people in the USA these days want to restrict Christians, but have no problem with every other idiot promoting their idiotic beliefs.

Who is restricting the Christian sects? BTW: not all Christians are the the same; Please identify your self and your sect;. Are you in an anti-LGBT sect? A sect that is patriarchal and centered on the worship of the penis?

I'm in the Christian sect that believes the Protestant Bible is the complete authoritative Word of God. Sin is sin and righteousness is righteousness.

 

[BS Filter]

It doesn't matter what church they attend. YOU can't force them to do what you want. Suck on that.

And if they don't want to serve blacks? You would appear to be fine with that.

That's why most people are disgusted by your attitude.

If a business doesn't want to serve someone they should not have to do so. The idea that the government can change attitudes simply does not work. It just pushes the problem underground and creates resentment. A far better solution would be for a business to post on their window who they won't serve. Then let the market modify attitudes.

We now have businesses that will not serve certain people because of their politics, and the left supports it. Hypocritical moonbats.

Do you support the right of those businesses to not serve people on the basis of politics?

Nope. If I own restaurant and someone orders pancakes and I serve pancakes, they get pancakes. Now if they demand a penis shaped pancake, they're gonna go hungry.

 

[mdk]

It doesn't matter what church they attend. YOU can't force them to do what you want. Suck on that.

And if they don't want to serve blacks? You would appear to be fine with that.

That's why most people are disgusted by your attitude.

If a business doesn't want to serve someone they should not have to do so. The idea that the government can change attitudes simply does not work. It just pushes the problem underground and creates resentment. A far better solution would be for a business to post on their window who they won't serve. Then let the market modify attitudes.

We now have businesses that will not serve certain people because of their politics, and the left supports it. Hypocritical moonbats.

Do you support the right of those businesses to not serve people on the basis of politics?

Nope. If I own restaurant and someone orders pancakes and I serve pancakes, they get pancakes. Now if they demand a penis shaped pancake, they're gonna go hungry.

Do you think public accommodation laws should be expanded to include political beliefs/affiliations?