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[Anguille]

2 Street Preachers Shot to Death in Florida

Sunday , February 07, 2010

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BOYNTON BEACH, Fla. —
Two men ministering on the streets of Boynton Beach were allegedly gunned down by an 18-year-old man. Police say 24-year-old Tite Sufra and 23-year-old Stephen Ocean were preaching to Jeriah Woody for about 15 minutes, until he got a phone call.
Woody left, but then allegedly started walking toward the two. When Sufra approached, Woody allegedly shot him in the head. Ocean ran, and police say Woody shot him in the back, then walked up and shot him again — this time in the head at point-blank range.
Police said a witness identified Woody, who is known by the street name "Plug." He surrendered Wednesday on two counts of first-degree murder charges.
It could not be determined if Woody had an attorney.


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[dilloduck]

Lovely----ty eel lady

 

[rdean]

2 Street Preachers Shot to Death in Florida

Sunday , February 07, 2010

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BOYNTON BEACH, Fla. —
Two men ministering on the streets of Boynton Beach were allegedly gunned down by an 18-year-old man. Police say 24-year-old Tite Sufra and 23-year-old Stephen Ocean were preaching to Jeriah Woody for about 15 minutes, until he got a phone call.
Woody left, but then allegedly started walking toward the two. When Sufra approached, Woody allegedly shot him in the head. Ocean ran, and police say Woody shot him in the back, then walked up and shot him again — this time in the head at point-blank range.
Police said a witness identified Woody, who is known by the street name "Plug." He surrendered Wednesday on two counts of first-degree murder charges.
It could not be determined if Woody had an attorney.


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When Pat Tillman was murdered, a Lt. Col. told his parents that if they were Christian instead of atheist, they wouldn't feel so bad because now Pat gets to be with "God".

 

[dilloduck]

2 Street Preachers Shot to Death in Florida

Sunday , February 07, 2010

ADVERTISEMENT

BOYNTON BEACH, Fla. —
Two men ministering on the streets of Boynton Beach were allegedly gunned down by an 18-year-old man. Police say 24-year-old Tite Sufra and 23-year-old Stephen Ocean were preaching to Jeriah Woody for about 15 minutes, until he got a phone call.
Woody left, but then allegedly started walking toward the two. When Sufra approached, Woody allegedly shot him in the head. Ocean ran, and police say Woody shot him in the back, then walked up and shot him again — this time in the head at point-blank range.
Police said a witness identified Woody, who is known by the street name "Plug." He surrendered Wednesday on two counts of first-degree murder charges.
It could not be determined if Woody had an attorney.


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When Pat Tillman was murdered, a Lt. Col. told his parents that if they were Christian instead of atheist, they wouldn't feel so bad because now Pat gets to be with "God".

WOW--thanks for that input too

 

[Anguille]

2 Street Preachers Shot to Death in Florida

Sunday , February 07, 2010

ADVERTISEMENT

BOYNTON BEACH, Fla. —
Two men ministering on the streets of Boynton Beach were allegedly gunned down by an 18-year-old man. Police say 24-year-old Tite Sufra and 23-year-old Stephen Ocean were preaching to Jeriah Woody for about 15 minutes, until he got a phone call.
Woody left, but then allegedly started walking toward the two. When Sufra approached, Woody allegedly shot him in the head. Ocean ran, and police say Woody shot him in the back, then walked up and shot him again — this time in the head at point-blank range.
Police said a witness identified Woody, who is known by the street name "Plug." He surrendered Wednesday on two counts of first-degree murder charges.
It could not be determined if Woody had an attorney.


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When Pat Tillman was murdered, a Lt. Col. told his parents that if they were Christian instead of atheist, they wouldn't feel so bad because now Pat gets to be with "God".

Some Christians are so tactful.
perhaps that notion will soothe the pain of the families and friends of these preachers.

 

[dilloduck]

Isn't it great that the non-Chistian came out the winner ?

 

[Anguille]

I wonder what religion these street preachers were? I wonder if "Plug" was of any religion? Maybe they were all the same religion?

 

[Anguille]

Isn't it great that the non-Chistian came out the winner ?

Who would that be?

 

[JenT]

When Pat Tillman was murdered, a Lt. Col. told his parents that if they were Christian instead of atheist, they wouldn't feel so bad because now Pat gets to be with "God".

I think you're referring to this?

In comments to ESPN, Kauzlarich said: "These people have a hard time letting it go. It may be because of their religious beliefs" and "When you die, I mean, there is supposedly a better life, right? Well, if you are an atheist and you don’t believe in anything, if you die, what is there to go to? Nothing. You are worm dirt. So for their son to die for nothing and now he is no more... I do not know how an atheist thinks, I can only imagine that would be pretty tough."[40] Lt. Col. Ralph Kauzlarich conducted the second investigation into Tillman's death which lasted a week, from May 8, 2004, to May 15, 2004.

I couldn't believe a Christian would say that to grieving parents and I doubt that he did. It sounds like comments AFTER an interview. I can only hope he didn't think he would be quoted when he said it to ESPN reporters, who were heartless to put it in print, even if it's true. Kauzlarich got punished for saying it to a reporter, but the motivation of the reporter to print that...I would lay bets on.

 

[strollingbones]

too early to jump the gun....nothing says he shot them cause they were street preachers

 

[Anguille]

When Pat Tillman was murdered, a Lt. Col. told his parents that if they were Christian instead of atheist, they wouldn't feel so bad because now Pat gets to be with "God".

I think you're referring to this?

In comments to ESPN, Kauzlarich said: "These people have a hard time letting it go. It may be because of their religious beliefs" and "When you die, I mean, there is supposedly a better life, right? Well, if you are an atheist and you don’t believe in anything, if you die, what is there to go to? Nothing. You are worm dirt. So for their son to die for nothing and now he is no more... I do not know how an atheist thinks, I can only imagine that would be pretty tough."[40] Lt. Col. Ralph Kauzlarich conducted the second investigation into Tillman's death which lasted a week, from May 8, 2004, to May 15, 2004.

I couldn't believe a Christian would say that to grieving parents and I doubt that he did. It sounds like comments AFTER an interview. I can only hope he didn't think he would be quoted when he said it to ESPN reporters, who were heartless to put it in print, even if it's true. Kauzlarich got punished for saying it to a reporter, but the motivation of the reporter to print that...I would lay bets on.

According to your quote, it doesn't sound like he said it directly to the parents. It's a reporter's job to report what relevant things important people say. It seems like Kauzlaich did not intend to be hurtful, he was just expressing his own wonderment and perhaps curiosity. I have no idea how the parents reacted but atheists hear this stuff often enough and it isn't really troublesome, at least not to me.
Atheists try not to be judgmental.

 

[dilloduck]

When Pat Tillman was murdered, a Lt. Col. told his parents that if they were Christian instead of atheist, they wouldn't feel so bad because now Pat gets to be with "God".

I think you're referring to this?

In comments to ESPN, Kauzlarich said: "These people have a hard time letting it go. It may be because of their religious beliefs" and "When you die, I mean, there is supposedly a better life, right? Well, if you are an atheist and you don’t believe in anything, if you die, what is there to go to? Nothing. You are worm dirt. So for their son to die for nothing and now he is no more... I do not know how an atheist thinks, I can only imagine that would be pretty tough."[40] Lt. Col. Ralph Kauzlarich conducted the second investigation into Tillman's death which lasted a week, from May 8, 2004, to May 15, 2004.

I couldn't believe a Christian would say that to grieving parents and I doubt that he did. It sounds like comments AFTER an interview. I can only hope he didn't think he would be quoted when he said it to ESPN reporters, who were heartless to put it in print, even if it's true. Kauzlarich got punished for saying it to a reporter, but the motivation of the reporter to print that...I would lay bets on.

According to your quote, it doesn't sound like he said it directly to the parents. It's a reporter's job to report what relevant things important people say. It seems like Kauzlaich did not intend to be hurtful, he was just expressing his own wonderment and perhaps curiosity. I have no idea how the parents reacted but atheists hear this stuff often enough and it isn't really troublesome, at least not to me.
Atheists try not to be judgmental.

except when it comes to talking about certain people

 

[Anguille]

ESPN reporters, who were heartless to put it in print,

"heartless"? hardly. You are a drama queen.

 

[Anguille]

Isn't it great that the non-Chistian came out the winner ?

Who would that be?

?

 

[Anguille]

I think you're referring to this?

In comments to ESPN, Kauzlarich said: "These people have a hard time letting it go. It may be because of their religious beliefs" and "When you die, I mean, there is supposedly a better life, right? Well, if you are an atheist and you don’t believe in anything, if you die, what is there to go to? Nothing. You are worm dirt. So for their son to die for nothing and now he is no more... I do not know how an atheist thinks, I can only imagine that would be pretty tough."[40] Lt. Col. Ralph Kauzlarich conducted the second investigation into Tillman's death which lasted a week, from May 8, 2004, to May 15, 2004.

I couldn't believe a Christian would say that to grieving parents and I doubt that he did. It sounds like comments AFTER an interview. I can only hope he didn't think he would be quoted when he said it to ESPN reporters, who were heartless to put it in print, even if it's true. Kauzlarich got punished for saying it to a reporter, but the motivation of the reporter to print that...I would lay bets on.

According to your quote, it doesn't sound like he said it directly to the parents. It's a reporter's job to report what relevant things important people say. It seems like Kauzlaich did not intend to be hurtful, he was just expressing his own wonderment and perhaps curiosity. I have no idea how the parents reacted but atheists hear this stuff often enough and it isn't really troublesome, at least not to me.
Atheists try not to be judgmental.

except when it comes to talking about certain people

You mean Jen? Well, we atheists are human after all.

 

[JenT]

When Pat Tillman was murdered, a Lt. Col. told his parents that if they were Christian instead of atheist, they wouldn't feel so bad because now Pat gets to be with "God".

I think you're referring to this?

In comments to ESPN, Kauzlarich said: "These people have a hard time letting it go. It may be because of their religious beliefs" and "When you die, I mean, there is supposedly a better life, right? Well, if you are an atheist and you don’t believe in anything, if you die, what is there to go to? Nothing. You are worm dirt. So for their son to die for nothing and now he is no more... I do not know how an atheist thinks, I can only imagine that would be pretty tough."[40] Lt. Col. Ralph Kauzlarich conducted the second investigation into Tillman's death which lasted a week, from May 8, 2004, to May 15, 2004.

I couldn't believe a Christian would say that to grieving parents and I doubt that he did. It sounds like comments AFTER an interview. I can only hope he didn't think he would be quoted when he said it to ESPN reporters, who were heartless to put it in print, even if it's true. Kauzlarich got punished for saying it to a reporter, but the motivation of the reporter to print that...I would lay bets on.

According to your quote, it doesn't sound like he said it directly to the parents. It's a reporter's job to report what relevant things important people say. It seems like Kauzlaich did not intend to be hurtful, he was just expressing his own wonderment and perhaps curiosity. I have no idea how the parents reacted but atheists hear this stuff often enough and it isn't really troublesome, at least not to me.
Atheists try not to be judgmental.

Ever been interviewed? There's a definite "on the record" and "off the record" feel to it. I've seen pages and pages of material be pared down to a couple of sentences. I bet there was plenty of other points the Lt Col. made that got omitted. His personal beliefs about what happens after death...I don't think that was supposed to be the focus of the story or what he had a press release for. I could be wrong though, wasn't there.

 

[Anguille]

too early to jump the gun....nothing says he shot them cause they were street preachers

Good point!!
Maybe Plug read an ad on Craig's List?

 

[Anguille]

I think you're referring to this?

In comments to ESPN, Kauzlarich said: "These people have a hard time letting it go. It may be because of their religious beliefs" and "When you die, I mean, there is supposedly a better life, right? Well, if you are an atheist and you don’t believe in anything, if you die, what is there to go to? Nothing. You are worm dirt. So for their son to die for nothing and now he is no more... I do not know how an atheist thinks, I can only imagine that would be pretty tough."[40] Lt. Col. Ralph Kauzlarich conducted the second investigation into Tillman's death which lasted a week, from May 8, 2004, to May 15, 2004.

I couldn't believe a Christian would say that to grieving parents and I doubt that he did. It sounds like comments AFTER an interview. I can only hope he didn't think he would be quoted when he said it to ESPN reporters, who were heartless to put it in print, even if it's true. Kauzlarich got punished for saying it to a reporter, but the motivation of the reporter to print that...I would lay bets on.

According to your quote, it doesn't sound like he said it directly to the parents. It's a reporter's job to report what relevant things important people say. It seems like Kauzlaich did not intend to be hurtful, he was just expressing his own wonderment and perhaps curiosity. I have no idea how the parents reacted but atheists hear this stuff often enough and it isn't really troublesome, at least not to me.
Atheists try not to be judgmental.

Ever been interviewed? There's a definite "on the record" and "off the record" feel to it. I've seen pages and pages of material be pared down to a couple of sentences. I bet there was plenty of other points the Lt Col. made that got omitted. His personal beliefs about what happens after death...I don't think that was supposed to be the focus of the story or what he had a press release for. I could be wrong though, wasn't there.

Yes, I have.

 

[Avatar4321]

Im rather curious about the why behind it. But since it looks like we have already ben inundated with people who dont really give a crap, i suspect we may never find out.

 

[strollingbones]

sometimes insanity occurrs and strikes....you cant explain it away